Pregnant after loss and dreaming of rainbows - 3

[Avocuddles]

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@Aria2015 I know what you mean about odds not being reassuring. I had a mmc and then an ectopic pregnancy last year. I know lots of ladies have experienced much worse. But the fact mine were seemingly unconnected occurrences both with low odds compounded the feeling that the bad stuff can keep happening to me. Do you mind if I ask, I don't understand why is high HCG bad?

So! My discharge is freaking me out!! Im 8+2 hardly had any symptoms from the off only sore boobs that fluctuate in tenderness...past two days have been mild. Was a bit tired last week but thats it! Due another scan on sunday and dreading it after have brown discharge last saturday (i had a scan at 6+4 heartbeat seen but to me seems slow even though sonographer said it was normal...but i just am not buying it)

Anywayyyy my discharge defo has a pale yellow/green tinge to it when its on toilet tissue!! WTF!! I have no std's ive been tested. Discharge is thick and id say like a pastel lime green/yellow colour! Could this be start of miscarriage???? HELP!

@Doughnut100 the screening test looks at the thickness of the baby's neck (NT measurement) and beta hcg and Papp a levels in your blood.

They convert your measurements into MoM which I think means multiple of the median. 1 MoM is good (that's where you want to be!).

My results were:
NT: 1.26 MoM
BHcg: 2.44 MoM
Papp a: 0.76 MoM

Markers for Down Syndrome pregnancies tend to be high NT and high BHcg and low Papp a. Apparently the hcg should start levelling off and then decline from week 10.

My NT and Papp a were ok (not too far off 1 MoM) but my BHcg was more than double what it should be. That and my age put me into the high risk category.

@Pippop21 mine is like that too but I know that's normal for me especially in pregnancy.
If you're concerned you could always ring your midwife?

We were just talking about odds being against us. People keep saying how our little boy being so poorly was such a rare occurance and so it shouldn't happen again but when you've had it once, you just think why not again.

@Treaclepie19 definitely nothing to be nervous about with alcohol free fizz (or beer or cider or gin) - get it cracked open! It's worth noting that whilst some of the alcohol free ones say they have 0.5% alcohol in them don't be put off by that as there's actually more alcohol content in a glass of fresh fruit juice.

@Aria2015 so glad your results were all good and congratulations on finding out you're having a daughter!

Have a bit of an upset stomach tonight which is panicking me a little - within an hour of eating a takeaway I had watery diarrhoea with black flecks in it (apologies if TMI...). I feel fine otherwise but guess it must be something I've eaten - it would probably be soon for the takeaway but ate some leftovers yesterday which could be the culprit?Hoping its over now, fingers crossed.....

Thanks @Avocuddles yeah it's the 0.5% stuff. I know it's fine really but I'm just not quite myself. I didn't have it in the end as I feel sick again 😩

Hope your stomach is better tomorrow! Pregnancy can set things off more than normal too.

@Avocuddles @Aria2015 Congratulations, ladies, lovely good news 😘

I had a strange afternoon & eve yesterday, felt very crampy and had a lower back ache, so I ended up lying down and drinking lots of water to stay hydrated. Then I slept rubbish and woke up before 6am today, typically, it's the weekend 😂 I think everything is OK, I've had no bleeding. I am a bit surprised though, this nearly felt as if AF was around a corner. I'm still crampy today, but so far a bir less than yesterday. However, I'm feeling rough. I'm lying here on my side with a window open debating if I need to be sick or if the nausea will pass. I've not eaten yet, I might have some toast to settle this. I can't remember having this so early on before. Previously I only had light nausea anyway.

I've also had the darkest BFP I've ever had in my life this morning, here it is 😊 Today, I'm pregnant! Have a lovely Saturday all xxx

Ah @MrsMGE I'm glad for your pg test and that it's making you happy :) I'm also waking up really early annoyingly, around 5 today. I think you should eat. I have just eaten a little bowl of mashed potato for breakfast because it's one of the only things I can stomach (toast makes me want to throw up!) and although I don't want to eat I have quickly learned that eating little and often does help prevent the worst of the nausea.

So after no bleeding since around this time yesterday I woke up this morning and the same thing happened again, some very very tiny bits of pink spotting and then brown discharge immediately after going for a Number 2. I am now convinced it is linked to going Number 2 for me! I had a quick google and found an old thread on here (isn't mumsnet such an amazing resource!) with a few women who had the same thing. Apparently your cervix is super sensitive and has increased blood flow in early pg and going Number 2. or sex can cause some light bleeding/discharge. Of course mine seems to be caused by the less glamorous of the 2 options. I have been getting very hot in the night and having some vivid dreams so it's possible I have a lot of blood flow when I'm sleeping and then waking up to go is what causes it? Anyway, I'm actually taking it as a positive sign - I know if it was a mc the bleeding would be changing colour/getting worse and wouldn't be anything to do with time of day. I'm thinking that it means my hormones are getting to work if my cervix has increased blood flow and is doing something it never usually does when I'm not pregnant? It never happened during my last pregnancy anyway, not a snip of bleeding until the mc happened at almost 11 weeks.

I'm a bit concerned about how I manage work. I have a very physical job (gardening) and there is pretty much no resting I can do whilst I'm on the clock... the midwives yesterday said to rest up - for me that would mean staying away from work whilst I'm bleeding... what would you do? I could go in and just work slowly, avoid anything too heavy. I am my own boss so I could take extra breaks and just walk gently and just slow down generally. Does that seem like a happy medium? If it is my cervix being irritated I'm guessing it makes no difference going to work... if it is something else is there anything I can do about it anyway?

Thanks @MOGMOGMOG85. Toast is a no, no now too, DH went to feed our cats and I can smell the cat food from my bed, I can't even move right now 🤦🏼‍♀️

Re your job, I know money is important now, but do you think you could do less hours per day temporarily? Are you very busy right now? Do you think you might be able to work a bit more to make up the money when you feel better/will your workload increase after the lockdown is over? I think at the very least you need to take lots of regular breaks and avoid lifting now xxx

Thanks @MrsMGE. Sorry about your sickness, that is awful! Make sure to keep the room ventilated, fresh air might help - smells are the worst! My boyfriend keeps insisting on boiling up his own stock for hours from veg peelings, he absolutely loves it and looks so proud but it fills the house with this rank boiled vegetable smell!!!

I'm an employed gardener on a contract of 7 hours a day 5 days a week. At the moment I can be flexible because no-one is at the school where I work and I don't need to work from 7.30am or take breaks at set times. I am taking an hours break during the day in 2 half hours, after roughly 2 hours of working each time. My job involves a lot of walking, a lot of pushing machinery. Actually at the moment the only machinery I need to use is a lawnmower and that's only one full days work every couple of weeks. This week I split it into 2 half days. I did tell my boss I was pregnant yesterday so perhaps I should ask if someone else could do the mowing. Trouble is the only other person would be my boss, and I'm not sure he'd be happy about that. I'm the only gardener, he does the sports turf which is a full time job for him. The fumes from the machinery is another concern for me as it's like standing behind a petrol car constantly all day. As I work alone I don't feel under pressure to lift things. I push myself hard when I'm not pregnant, but since I've been pregnant I've just been choosing to overlook certain things and taking short cuts on some things like weeding (standing and hoeing things over for example rather than rigorously digging them out - it doesn't help in the long run but I'm prioritising my health). If I'm mindful I can keep my work relatively slow, plodding, and take little extra breaks without anyone noticing, and avoid the really hard stuff by prioritising my health. Whenever lockdown finishes I'll be expected to use the leaf blower every morning for about 45 mins. It's heavy and chugs out petrol fumes into your face. Perhaps I can get someone else to do that. Perhaps I just need to have a sit down with my boss when I go in on monday and discuss my concerns. Now they know I'm pregnant I guess they have a duty to consider my workload... it's an awkward one.

@MrsMGE no denying that that is a positive! As I've said to others recently I definitely felt crampy in the early weeks with all three of my pregnancies (current, third time lucky one included) so I guess it must be a normal thing - there are so many hormonal changes going on as well as stretching and growing of your uterus. I found probably found it worse from 4-5ish weeks but the cramps and twinges still kept going. I think after a while they changed and I realised that the pains I was feeling were digestive rather than uterine, but ultimately it's disconcerting either way as they do feel very similar! Hopefully the cramps will subside for you soon, and definitely take the nausea as a positive sign that your hormones are going haywire right now!

@MOGMOGMOG85 from what I understand some people just have a more sensitive cervix than others. You might be best avoiding sex at the moment as that would most likely further aggravate it, and as @MrsMGE said if there's anyway you can cut back slightly or as you suggest just take it a bit easier at work over these early weeks that might help. I hope this is the last of the bleeding for you as know how debilitating the anxiety must be.

Stomach seems settled this morning touch wood but had yet another strange dream..... This time I was a new student at university and arrived at my hall of residence to find that I was sharing a room with three other girls and that they'd left me with a tiny single bed whilst they all had better ones. In the dream I wasn't 18 year old student me but 36 year old me and I said 'but where will my husband stay when he visits?' and 'I'm pregnant, I need more space than that!'. Another girl offered to swap rooms but the bed on offer was a top bunk so also unsuitable, and the dream ended there!

@MOGMOGMOG85 I suggest you read up on reasonable adjustments in pregnancy, if you're employed and your employer knows of your pregnancy, there's a number of those that should be made to your job from what you're saying. Have a look on Gov.uk and ACAS.

Ok can I tell you guys something which is really bothering me... when i was only 3 weeks pregnant or so, just after I'd found out, I was jumped/leaned over the back of the sofa to look at something my boyfriend wanted to show me on his laptop, and I inadvertently put all the weight down onto my womb. It hurt and so I stopped. Last time I was pregnant I did something really stupid, I absent mindedly was pinching my belly and I squeezed too hard and I got a sharp pain in my womb, and I never shook the fact that maybe it was that that caused the miscarriage... I don't know why I'm so thoughtless and silly. I certainly won't be doing either of those 2 things again.. I hope I haven't done something to myself :(

@MrsMGE I'm just reading a leaflet from NHSatwork about manual work, thanks for that

@MOGMOGMOG85 its really hard to hurt baby from the outside. Think of how hard they press when they do scans.
Last pregnancy my then 3yo jumped on my lap knee first at about 18 weeks pregnant and all was fine.

Right after you've found out baby is nestled really low down so would likely be too low down to even poke.

@MOGMOGMOG85 I really think you have nothing to worry about 😊 You're overly cautious and that's natural. Just be gentle with yourself now, both physically and mentally, avoid anything that might be anxiety inducing. I think you're being very hard on yourself to be honest. I'm preaching now because I've been struggling with this too and it's always easy to see the same in someone else.

@Avocuddles Your dreams are crazy! 😂 Where does all this even come from, do you watch more TV/films now? 😂

Thanks for your reassuring words, I'm still very much in a what will be, will be frame of mind but inevitably hoping for some luck. I think I'll stay away from Fb again, turns out a number of people I know are really far along now with second or third successful pregnancies or have just given birth and I think because I still haven't even had one successful pregnancy, it makes me feel worse and I start to worry a bit. No need for that, everyone's journey is different.

@Avocuddles I had a weird dream that my two friends completely had a go at me and I go lost running around. The dreams are CRAZY at the moment.

@Pippop21 does it smell? Could be BV of so which is like a bacterial form of thrush. If the colour or smell isn't normal for you I would speak to the GP. It's important to make sure as they like to be definitely sure all is good down there.

@MOGMOGMOG85 the babies are tiny, encased in fluid, protecting low down in your pelvis. It's very very unlikely that is what caused the miscarriage. The pain was probably over stretching of your ligaments

@Pippop21 As @Sunflower1608 said, double check with your GP to be sure. I have read some other threads before and that indicated that this can be completely normal but always good to be sure. I think the pregnancy vitamins you take can also impact the colour of your discharge funnily enough. I read somewhere that Pregnancare does this a bit.

So much to catch up on again...
@Avocuddles we haven’t had sex since I got pregnant. Too nervous & I donor feel sexy. Last time we didn’t after about 16 weeks either, and I had a 3b tear so neither wanted to for ages after birth... we’re now just people who rarely have sex!!

@MOGMOGMOG85 my 18kg toddler jumps on me all the time. I’m trying to make him stop now but in the early weeks it’s ok. There’s no way pinching yourself or jump/leaning onto a sofa would be a big enough force to harm your baby. In my first pregnancy I was paranoid about hurting the baby but my midwife put me straight many times. xx

Sorry I’ve missed lots to reply to, will try and catch up properly later. Hope you’re all ok and have a nice lockdown weekend planned. My 20 week scan is 5 weeks today... feels like a very long time to wait!

@Aria2015 thank you for explaining that. The leaflet they gave me doesn't go into that detail - I'm going to do some reading so I fully understand what's going on! Very glad yours all turned out ok. X

Hi all, I hope you don’t mind me joint this chat. I’m 10 weeks +5 (although my dates may be slightly out). I had a miscarriage in late Jan (Confirmed by scans) and then in early March found out I was pregnant again. I’ve had no AF in between so it all came as a pleasant shock!
I had a scan at 8 weeks due to a small bleed which gave me some idea of dates. They told me that the baby was ‘live’ and quite chunky. I didn’t think to ask but I’m hoping chunky isn’t bad?

@Treaclepie19, my dreams are weird and they are causing me to sleep talk. My OH thinks the things I am saying are hilarious. Last week everything was about stolen marshmallows!

Nope no smell and no itching or other symptoms

@anxiouslady i am taking pregncare conceive as i had loads an loads left

Anyway just got gut feelings its gonna be bad news tomoz so im prepared for the worst

I've also been having the dreams. The last two nights I've dreamt about bumping into a different ex boyfriend in strange circumstances. Last night also featured me being back in the office where I did my training 10 years ago, I even remembered the cleaner vividly and had a chat with him! I was also studying for an economics masters. I hated economics at school. Very bizarre.