Pregnancy after miscarriage - Various ways of getting from one day to the next...

[Uki]

Thanks for the thread name Purplelostprincess

Sorry to hear you're so worried feedmenow. I think if you really feel the need for a scan then get one. When I was abroad the Doctor told me that some women who have had a mc before get scans every 10 days during the first 12 weeks to be reassured!!! That sounds a bit crazy to me but I guess it goes to show that worry is natural after a mc. I certainly worry. Then again if you relax a bit and can wait all the better. I don't think too many scans are dangerous.... does anyone else have info?

It is so hard for me to get up in the morning right now. Until I get something in my stomach terrible. It seems the only way of dealing with the nausea is to eat every hour or two. I always have a supply of giner snaps & sweets etc in my bag too and have even tried the sea bands although they didn't make that much difference...Anyone got any other tips?

Morning ladies

VV ? hard to stop stressing though isn?t it?

Mollyfloss welcome and congratulations we?ll look after you here. I do sympathise on the MS front. I am having a bad day today ? sorry if TMI but I have already been sick 3 times today and my head is pounding I find the only way to get through it is to eat regularly and to drink as much water as you can. I?m lucky, the bad days don?t happen often now.

Feedmenow- no, the book is called ?how to have a baby on ebay? its all about cutting the cost of having one and getting all the stuff you need cheaply rather than conceiving that was sweet of your Dad how did the bloods go? I hope you are feeling ok, wobbles are natural hon just do all you need to to keep yourself afloat

Hey Mumpbump ? well said to Feedmenow

MOM ? how are you feeling today?

EllieG good to hear you sounding more positive. Measured excitement is how I?d describe how I feel most of the time.

Spugs hello! I hope my posts aren?t too long and boring!

Fettle hiya.

Re: pain in early weeks I had bad period pains between 4-5 weeks which had me lying in bed motionless for over 24 hours convinced it was all over. Then at around 7/8 ish weeks I had what i called 'twanging' to the sides just in from my hip bone which was like a tight violin string was being plucked. I mentioned this to a doctor I was, asking what it could possibly be and she hadn't a clue, she thought I was just a loon probably.

Fettle - don't say that about not moving!! We have a moving date for next Thursday 29th - (when I'll be 36 weeks!!!) - i have no choice now. We went round to look at the house again over the weekend and were greatly relieved that we like it as much as ever so it is worth the hassle. It is also liveable in - quite shabby as it is a very old house, but nothing has to be done urgently really other than make sure we have all the furniture we need. It's a lovely old house with loads of character and personality, so I have to just look on the bright side now. I am quietly hoping to go a week overdue though, definitely don't want this baby to be early.

I am leaking milk loads now. I didn't do this with dd, but sometimes I find I am quite crusty and stained these days (nice!).

I also had a shock when talking to my sister on the phone. She is 3.5 weeks behind me with her pregnancy and she was saying she was 31 weeks - we had a disagreement because I said she couldn't be 31 weeks as I was only 33 weeks. This rumbled on and then I worked out that rather than having 7 more weeks to go as I have been telling all and sundry this weekend, I actually only have 5 1/2 weeks. How can I have been so distracted?? What an idiot I am.

Feedmenow - 3 weeks will seem like a very long time to wait. Personally I don't think I could wait fro the whole time so I don't think you are being ridiculous considering another private scan, just completely human. I would just try and hold off for as long as possible before booking it. Knowing you can have it may just make the wait bearable. If you do have a private scan you don't want to then have too long to wait until the next one, so just try to pace them.
Didn't Lesley Regan do some research that involved women who had previously had recurrent miscarriages without any diagnosed root cause having a reassurance scan every week in their first trimester? It made a dramatic difference (positive) to their outcomes. So maybe you should weigh up the small but unknown risk of too many ultrasounds with then benefits of knowing everything is alright (although then you just know you'll start worrying again within a day of the scan).
Having said all this, it does sound like everything is fine still, and a brown bleed is something so many of us have experienced it seems.

Victorvictoria - I feel sure everything will be alright but I hope you hear that heartbeat today. It's just the most wonderful thing.

Fettle - good luck for today, hope the scan shows your baby is head down now and they don't deem him/her too big.

Hey Mumpbump! you're sounding chilled as usual.

OK that's enough waffle from me for now. Hello to everyone else, I had better go off and get things done for this house move.

Mollyfloss and MrsMc - I crossed posts with you as I wrote so much. Molly, I found chrisps were my thing but that is not a healthy option and doesn't help with bloating and water retention.
Sorry to hear you are still getting MS MrsMc - that's bad luck at your stage. Poor you - but at least you are pregnant eh?

Absolutely Rubles 19 weeks today and hoping to hear the hb again tomorrow at the MW. It?s been 3 weeks (which is a long time I agree!) since I saw or heard anything so I am looking forward to some reassurance but am always terrified before all appointments in case there is bad news. I guess that will never go away you must be very laid back to forget your weeks!! I am still hanging on each day as well! I hope the move goes well

19 weeks i am sure you were only 14 wks lats time i asked!!!
I had MS until 26 wks with ds2
am feeling sick today (hooray) but still unsure of dates and still no contact from mw

Hello all -
I didn't know milk leakage happened before you had a baby! It's an education this site innit?
Had same cramps last night, though not as bad, but thanks to all of you was much more chilled and was fine by time I got up.
Glad everyone is feeling good today. Am defo going to get that ebay baby book - have been worrying about money and need to be able to do things as cheaply as possible so I can take time off after the baby's born (if makes it).

Best of luck with the move rubles!

See y'all soon

Mumofmonsters, how did you manage with ms until week 26?! I'm having a really tough day today and it's only week 7... Everything is making me feel nautious, even toast which usually works well. A glass of milk helps a bit though. I'm supposed to go out for dinner with my dh and FIL tonight and a friend of my dh's who doesn't know I'm pregant. It's going to be a tough dinner. At least we're going for Italian. I should be able to manage pasta. I find the simpler the food the better. I usually love all sorts of Asian food but right now I can't even look at it!

i didn't manage very well lol! I ATE all THE TIME. i ended up putting on 3 stone which i still haven;t shifted. also, i have another child to look after and he needed most of my attention. dosatrction does help slightly.

At one point i had 4 of those sickness bands on, ginger nuts in my pocket, minstrels under the counter at work (i managed a shop) and a plastic bag with no holes in it in case the lift took too long to get me to the loo!!

LOL rubles...at least you don't have as long to wait

Quick hello to everyone and Hi to any newbies.....keep talking to each other on here. This is a fab support thread and got me through a very trying 39 weeks!

Sorry to hear about all the cramping and bleeding, but I had the same and a bleed at 6 weeks, plus a scare after emptying an entire can of de-icer in my car and hsaving to put up with the fumes for about a week whilst it dried off, and now have a lovely happy bouncing DD.

Hello all! Must be quick as I am having what is shaping up to be a nightmare week at work...

Rubles - I noticed that I had fluid coming out of my nips (sorry if TMI) the other day when I was in the bath. Just hoping I make it through the last few weeks at work without having to stuff breast pads down my bra!!

Ellie - I suspect you are more likely to have nipple leakage if you already have a child and have bf. Don't remember any at all first time around...

MrsMcJnr - my sister is suffering from ms and after really wanting to fall pg is now saying she almost wishes she wasn't. Don't think she'd say she wanted another one if you asked her right now!! I keep telling her that it will get better around 12 weeks, so won't mention your experience to her, if you don't mind!!

Hello to everyone else and will hopefully be back at some point to post a bit more...

Just to add to the ms stories - with ds I was sick from day 1 of pg (the ms was the reason I did a test, as ds was most definitely not planned!) until I gave birth ... the feeling, after the drugs had worn off after I had him, of not feeling sick any more, was one of the most fantastic!

However, I had put very little weight on during the pg (about 7lbs total) due to the sickness, but once I could eat, boy, did I? I absolutely ballooned!

This time, I had ms from 5 weeks until 28 weeks - and I was signed off work for 12 weeks with hyperemesis - but this time, I have had acupuncture (and used homeopathic remedies), and that has helped ... I am still occasionally being sick, but it's only when I'm tired / hungry / stressed.
I have put on a lot of weight so far (about 3 stones), but as I have found that the more I eat what I fancy, the less sick I am, then I'll deal with the extra weight afterwards!

I lost all the extra wight last time - so I can surely do it again!

Can't remember who asked about the electric chair I hired for the Festival of Quilts, but it was an absolute godsend - even with it, I was completely wiped out by mid-afternoon - without it, I would have been useless after about 10 minutes! As it is, I cancelled visiting a friend and going to a cricket match yesteray as I was just in too much pain.
Feeling slightly less painridden today - ds and I have been to buy school uniform, and to have his school shoes checked for size - they, at least, were fine! Spent nearly £50 in the uniform shop though!

Am meeting dh for lunch today ... ds is really looking forward to it!

Take care all ... have a good day ... and welcome to Molly ... may your stay on this thread be long and uneventful!

God, you lot are GOOD! Am feeling abit more relaxed today, more like what will be will be. Lets see how long this lasts before a swing back down again!

Had booking visit with mw this morning. She was surprised they didn't scan me at the EPU yesterday too. But she has advised me what to do if (god forbid) I get any more bleeding.

I also had a really rather nice surprise while I was there. I've had 2 sections and don't want a third, but know that having a VBA2C is not an easy cause to fight for. However, mwfound out I'd already had 2 cs's and said "so you'll have a third?" and I said no and she said "oh good". Apparebtly they are making a real drive for VABCs and VBA2Cs at the mo. It has even convinced me to go back to the hospital where my dd was born over 8 years ago (and which I hated!!) for this one. And see how positive I am being by saying this

Mump, thanks for those stats from Uki. That is EXACTLY the type of stats I've been looking for. I'll cling to those and ignore any others I've seen!

Rubles, lucky you, losing a week and a half! You're even closer than you thought. Hooray!

Fettle, hope todays scan is all good stuff, and that you get some fabby piccies. Do you already know what you're having? Are you going to find out?

Mrsmc, think I might check that book out too! Can you actually buy it on ebay??

Hope everyone else is fine and dandy today. Saw that someone mentioned crisps and now I'm gagging for a packet. Or 2. Maybe even 3

Wow feedmenow that's great news on the VBA2C. I had a section with DS and opted for an eective with DD. I was told they categorically would not let me try for a vaginal birth if I had another one! Would love to, but DH definately not keen!

Thanks for all your kind messages re LL...

I've good news, his ultrasound looked fine, so he shouldn't need an operation.

We just have to keep an eye on it.

BF has just called catch up more later.

BF has locked herself in at work, at night, ha she is funny

Good news there Uki! Hopefully it will be right as rain in no time.

Not so good about BF.....what a friend you are to laugh at her

Great news Uki .....

Feedmenow and others considering VBAC - just to let you know that "they" cannot force you into any decisions regarding your mode of delivery - unless you are sectioned until the Mental Health Act, any decision regarding your obstetric care is just that .... yours! The is no 6empirical evidence^ that vba(multiple)c is any more risky than vbac

I know this isn't the place for it, but there's lots of good info here

I'm going for a vbac myself - and am booked to use the pool in the midwife-led unit - it's taken me being a bolshy madam, but it's now sorted!

getting down off my soapbox now!

Ejt, thanks for that. I did loads of research last year and know a bit about my rights. But knowing how arsey they seem to get over these things I was expecting to have a struggle on my hands! It was so nice not to! And even better, the mw asked me if the cons. I saw last year mentioned home birth. I said I thought I remembered her saying that it would be a no-go. The mw said "yes, much better in the home-from-home room at the hospital". So I might even get a home-from-home room! Great that you get to go to a MWU, and with a pool! Why did you have a section before if you don't mind me asking? Just wondering what kind or prep you are doing to help things go right this tim?
I still imagine they will attempt a lot more intervention, etc, than I'm going to allow, but at least I'm not wasting my energy on fighting for the right to even try!
I'm even considering going on a VBAC course in Warrington (I think!). I plan to get 12 week scan over with (hopefully safely) and then contact the lady who I found on the VBAC forum at Yahoo who runs it. I think it could be really useful.

Just quickly for all who are interested, for 10% off at Mothercare (online) until 27th August use the code A7M at the checkout!

etj
your brave, i'm going the
ECAVB route myself if i have another.

Have I just invented this term ??????
it stands for Elective Cesarean After Vaginal Birth.

just to fill you in a little my labour was 8.5 times, quicker than DS1 (only 2.5) hours, BUT it was just as horrendous, my advice girls is don't be brave on the pain relief, if you don't want to be brave make sure dh or partner can ask for it for you.

Hi all

Have to be quick as at work, but just wanted to let you know that my so-called "small" baby, is actually measuring at 38 weeks! i'm only 34+3!! Head circumference is off the top of the scale!

Either way at least I now know that I'm not going to be allowed to go overdue. Baby is head down again as well, which I think is a good thing, although having found out the size of a head to someone who breezed through her first labour with no stiches, tearing etc, the thought of a c-section at the current time is pretty appealing. But the unsympathetic midwife told me not to worry, they are renowned for getting their babies just the right size - I've done it before and my body and uterus know what to do!!. I'm assuming she's never given birth to an elephant before then!! Iknow that VB is the way to go and I'm sure I'll get my head around it again - it is so weird though to be worrying about gettting this baby out at last, having spent so long worrying that everything is ok and it stays in ok. Pgncy after mc really sucks - takes away some of the magic of it all I think.

Anyway - glad to hear that everyone seems quite happy today - I'll try and pop back properly this evening.

so pleased that LL doesn't need surgery, UKi!

love and hugs to all
xxx

feedmenow - I said to the mw that I was not prepared to go to the consultant led unit, and that I would rather stay at home ... it's amazing how quickly they suggested that the MLU would be a better place for me ...

I also got myself referred to the consultant midwife team (every nhs trust should have one) and had discussions about what I would and wouldn't accept ... I have said that I would not accept cefm, and a few other bits and pieces, and they have recorded that on my notes.

I must sound really bolshy, but I am generally a person who avoids confrontation like the plague ... however, the birth of ds put me into such a bad place that I couldn't even contemplate going through a medicalised birth like I had with ds ... (induced at 40 + 12, messed around for 4 days (yes, really!) having prostin pessaries / pains, waters broken at 40 + 16 , drip, epidural, cefm - got to pushing stage - pushed for several hours - ds got stuck - failed instrumental delivery - wheeled straight to emergency CS - there's more to it than that, but that's the bare bones of it all)

The UKVBACHBAC group is a really useful resource - there are several MNetters who post on both here and there ... good luck with your fight

UKI - if you to go for a ElCEaVBAC (can't remember your acronym off-hand ) - then feel free! From what I've heard from friends, those who have had an elective after a previous traumatic VB, have found it a much more pleasant experience ... in my case though, I had all the unpleasant effects of VB - and had to get over major surgery too ... the worst of both worlds really (because, of course, to have an instrumental delivery, you have an episiotomy! - I had so many stitches I considered making a jumper!)

Anyway, Uki - does that mean you're thinking of your next already?

Interesting ejt. Can I ask though, are you at all concerned about having made a fuss and then possibly having to back-track if things don't go according to plan? Or have you already made it perfectly clear that you're going to give it your best shot but won't risk the health of you and/or baby if things go wrong?
My biggest fear about being bolshy is that I'll feel a right pratt if complications arise at the first hurdle!
Me "I absolutely WILL NOT have a section! I WILL have a VBAC and things WILL go to plan!!!! You WILL NOT STOP ME!"
Them "But Miss H, you're having quads/got placenta problems/your fanny has healed shut from underuse (delete as appropriate)and there is absolutely no way you can have a VBAC"

Uki, elective section after anything horrific is good! So calm and controlled and un-messy. So god alone knows why I'm intent on a VABC this time round!!

PMSL feedmenow! 'fanny shut from underuse!'. Mine will be like that soon unless I get less tired that's for sure. (sorry if TMI)