TTC graduates!! "It's like party poppers in here, first PinkB, then Bodkin, now Chooster, who will be next?!!"

[BabyMadandBIGbump]

PREDICTIONS

BabyMadwithBump on Thu 24-May-07 14:57:52
I've been dreaming of a baby girl, 9lb 2oz, on the 27 July with dark black hair, but I predict a baby boy, 8lb 1oz, also 27 July, with very light hair! We'll see!

Chooster on Thu 24-May-07 15:08:03
Oh, predictions!!!!
For me, I reckon boy (guess that's in the bag), 23rd July, 8lbs 2oz

MrsMcJnr on Thu 24-May-07 15:22:29
I'll be brave and have faith and predict for me:
Boy, 6lbs 10oz, 13/1 (11/07/07 I?ve changed my mind about my bean ? think it?s a she)

KitKat30 on Thu 24-May-07 15:26:29
Ooooh predictions... I reckon for me:
Boy (err that was an easy one)
2nd September
7lbs 12oz

firststar on Thu 24-May-07 15:47:32
Hi ladies
first of all let me get business out of the way....predictions...for me a boy 7lb 2oz (going against all my big baby comments) 22nd July (early I think) , upping the weight prediction of mine to 8lb 6oz.

seaside72 on Thu 24-May-07 16:18:25
predictions - arghh - I have no idea - if we get there I am sure I will be late - 24 January is my prediction
weight ??
sex - would be lying if I did not say girl - but thats more about preconceptions and imagining rather than what I actually feel - Chinese cal says girl but realstically I think prob boy - my DH is convinced it's a boy already!

honeyapple on Fri 25-May-07 08:29:20
I predict to be late... as was VERRY late with DD... also predict baby to be a bit bigger... 7 lb 10 maybe?
How about 31/10/07 7.10 girl (changed to BOY 12/07/07)
(halloween baby!)

fettleandminifettle on 11/07/07 25th September, 8lbs exactly!

greedy - my prediction for my little one is
girl, 1st Oct, 7lbs 14oz (can i change it? i reckon i will be early now! sept 20th!!!)

Due Date's

June
Pink Butterfly, born by C-section on 18/06/07 little girl 8lb 12oz!

July
Bodkin, born at home on 09/07/07 little girl 7lb 6oz!

Chooster Due 22/07/07 (BOY)
Firststar Due 26/07/07

Aug
Conkertree Due 01/08/07
Babymad Due 03/08/07
KitKat Due 29/08/07 (BOY)

Sept
Fettle due 29/09/07 (BOY)
Greedy due 30/09/07

Oct
Honeyapple Due 27/10/07

Jan
Mum2Sam Due 16/01/08
MrsMcJnr Due 15/01/08
Seaside Due 20/01/08
iwillbe Due 27/01/08

Feb
Beansprout Due 01/02/08

thank you so much iwillbe! if only i had thought to come back onto MN and check BEFORE we did the painting!!!!! we did 2 coats of magnolia before colours in the end, not 4! but still seems like we did too much!!! too late now though! but thanks anyway!

fettle - i LOVE the name LEXIE!!!! might put that on my list. i will have to join in the competitive mother thing!......my dd has been typing her name for a while ( cos she wanted to copy her brother) but doesn't always know when to stop!!! ie. kikikikikikikikiki!!!!! she is only 2.7 though, so she has a good excuse!
oh and fettle - how can i be making you feel inadequate!!??? i said i was thinking about a hospital bag........but i havent packed it yet, or even got anything to go in it!!! and ................i said i was going to write a list of things i need for the baby......but i didn't!!! so dont feel inadequate!!! i am CRAP too!!! .....shit....now i have just read that you have made up the moses basket and now i feel inadequate!!! our cot and moses basket are buried in the loft under lots of rubble (from the builders taking the chimney down!) and i can't even consider getting them down yet cos we have no space for them until both my dc move out of the nursery!!!
rainbowdays - cant believe you are 6 wks already!!! thanks for your painting tips too! think we might have cocked up not diluting our paint........oooooooooppppps!!!

honeyapple - did i see you said x-factor was about to start?!!! i KNEW there was a reason why i shouldn't have been painting till 11pm last night!!!!! i was in a bad enough mood with dh when i had finished anyway without even knowing x factor was on!!! (i am blaming the extension over running and all the masses of work and decorating we have to do on him for some reason, and its really NOT his fault, but he is the closest person for me to blame!!) so has x factor started again properly? i always think of it as a winter thing, dont tell me its nearly xmas already!!

babymad - you sound like you are having it tough at the mo, and i was so hoping you were going to say having 3 was a piece of piss!!! try and take it easy and enjoy connie as much as you can, especially as she will prob be your last one ( you did say that didn't you?). try and relax and enjoy!!

chooster and bodders- hiya!!! you both sound on good form!! chooster - work isn't looking too good for me actually! i have a locum who can cover tuesdays for me but only during the day, so i still have to do evenings and then i still have to do thursdays and sat mornings until i physicall cant do it any more!! its not ideal, i was really hoping to just stop and not have to worry about it for a few months, but unfortunately this is the best i can hope for. gives me something else to moan about though which is always a plus!!!

might go and have an early night now. builders have told us to make ourselves scarce tomorrow while they stick architraves and skirting boards on cos of the smell of the adhesive. so i need to think of something to do all day to entertain the kids....................might try and fit in a bit of baby shopping!!

Hey ladies how are we all? I am very tired after a weekend of playing taxi driver for DH! We met our Doula too, she seemed lovely both DH and I felt really excited about it all after meeting her was given our first pressie at PIL party at the weekend, very sweet, it was a baby book from one of MIL?s friends ? unfortunately, that is the only thing we do have! Keep it for the next one!

Hello Scorpio so glad all is going well, sleeping better?

Hey Bodders sounds like you and Isla are doing really well

Hello Firsty ? thanks for posting for me I guess it?s just the usual office politics but I am just being more paranoid than usual due to the hormones. Was interviewing an ex colleague for a position on Friday and boss said to him that he anticipated that I would be off for 3 months, I know he can?t ask me but he?ll get a real shock if it all goes according to plan! Glad to hear things are going well with you.

Greedy wow, can?t believe you are 34 weeks! I would have been 34 weeks this Sunday with Ava and that would have meant 3 weeks left at work instead of 17! Hey ho! Interesting that MW thinks your baby will be quiet small. Thanks for the reassurance on the hormone front PMSL at you v Fettle on the race to get things ready! Sorry to hear that the work situation is a bit worrying.

Iampg ? handy painting tips hope the move went well

Babymad ? when are you going to change your name?! LOL at your post, can totally understand what you are saying though hope you feel a lot better soon.

I have a question: am I being unreasonable for not wanting to go to PIL 45 mins drive away at Christmas? I?ll be 37 weeks and might not even get that far if I am like my Mum and Sis with their early babies. I have told DH I just want to stay at home (wherever that is!) and veg with him and take it easy and not have to get all dolled up and sit around at his folks whilst they all get drunk, eating rich food and then being expected to drive home late at night. DH says that not going won?t go down well but this Christmas of them all, am I right not to care?! I know you?ll be honest (without flaming me ? which would be the case if I posted that on the Am I being unreasonable? Thread)

Fettle LOL at you being a competitive Mum! Shame you live far from me or I?d come and give you a hand must have been fun doing the baby?s room

Hello Rainbowdays wow, time is flying, not long until that scan how are you feeling?

Honeyapple hope that?s not too big a baby you?ve got in there! Now you are in the re-decorating frenzy too! toys in shoes? How odd! Have fun camping I?d love a jam tart too

I have heard of 4 new Ava?s this week see what happens when you find a nice name you think is unusual?

Hey Chooster did you have fun at your Mum?s? sorry to hear that 4am-7am is a busy time for you poor little Theo with his cold hope he is much better soon. Good to hear the reflux is ok; my sis gets back tomorrow so I?ll get on the phone to her thanks for your kind words Great about the amby!

hi ladies

sorry i cant post much and respond to anyone as i have not got the time to read - i am still packing boxes at the flat cannot believe the amount of crap we have!!!

the plan was a nice slow move and we live at the flat whilst dp gets the house sorted - well drastic change on thrusday night we decided it would be more cost effective to rent the flat out asap so we dont have to fork out for 2 mortgages so i am on a mammoth packing sesh!

had my scan saturday and i am having..............A BOY!!!! he will be little oscar

i am so pleased i thought id feel a bit dissapointed cos deep down i wanted a girl but i am so over the moon so is dp. we have a lovely picture of him with his legs spread and knees hitched and winky sticking up in the air lol
when the lady but the scanner on me first thing we saw was him raise him arm and wave - my heart melted!!!

off for a blood test now just wanted to let you all know

will catch up soon i promise byeeee xxx

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Iampg ? so much going on with you!! and many congratulations on having a son wonder what that does to our blue:pink ratio! Was it really obvious from the scan or would you not have known if you didn?t want to??!!

Firsty ? it must be so hard in the first few weeks, I just can?t imagine it! My DH is having 4 if not 5 weeks off to be at home with me and baby it?ll be lovely. I have printed off your list didn?t realise you needed your own towels! good point about the wipes, both types! I?ve also got socks on mine! I can?t sleep with cold feet and apparently they get very cold in labour (though I am hoping mine will be under water!) I?ve confirmed to the Doula today that we?d like to hire her she has a few days around my date she can?t do so I so hope Beanie is considerate, we will arrange back up but we?d really like her she was so lovely and calming and spent 2 hours just chatting to DH and I. He was really enthusiastic and clearly felt she?d help him too thanks hon for your thoughts on Christmas ? I?ll stick to my guns and say I can?t say now how I?ll feel then what a healthy boy Ty souns clever, clever you!!

hi all - cant believe it, both dds crashed out at same time ! dd1 been to soft play area this morning - hence afternoon nap (i should wake her really, shes been asleep for 2 hours, but its bliss!)

Firsty - great to hear you sounding on top of things and enjoying your sleep when you can get it - and thats a fab weight gain for Ty.

Iampg - love the name Oscar - sounds like your scan went really well.

Mrsmc - As usual, Firsty is the voice of reason on your xmas dilemma mind you, if it is only 45 mins away, you could go for just morning or afternoon, whichever you prefer, and put your feet up and get loads of fuss - they'll understand that a full day might be too much at 37 weeks. Funny what you say about seeing the name Ava everywhere now, i'm having the same with Isla!

We are going to get her registered tomorrow (finally ) and i think we are going with Isla Beatrix Bluebell - 2 middle names as neither of us is keen on the other's choice, so we'll have to have both! feel a bit bad that dd1 only has one middle name now though....

Chooster - sorry to hear theo is getting you at it in the small wee hours - thats a killer. mind you isla didnt get to sleep properly until about 2am last night - lots of pacing, feeding and patting required, then she woke at 4am and 6.30am so feel a bit bleurgh today..... i believe they have a growth spurt at 6 weeks, so hope it is just that!

greedy - bad luck about the paint. what you might find if you ever come to repaint is that the old paint starts to peel away from the plaster when it gets wet by the new paint going on top.... i have learnt from painful experience about that one - a ceiling too - had to scrape all the paint off back to the plaster and start again. sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

really better wake up dd1 now, not looking forward to it, she is going to be so grumpy....maybe ill just leave it and she can stay up with isla till 2am tonight....hmmmm, fun!

shit firsty! that hospital bag list scared me! i didnt take a quarter of that stuff last time! thanks though cos you reminded me of several things i had completely forgotten about! dont think i needed my own towels but it seems like a good idea!

got REALLY stressed in tescos this morning doing my normal weekly shop! went down the baby aisle and thought "oh, i will just get some formula and some bottles in case i need them" and so i picked up the formula and then went to the bottles and there was about a million different types! so i started stressing and i couldn't remember what size teats i would need if i did have to use them! then i went to get some breast pads and maternity pads and couldn't decide how many to get.................and ended up putting everything back cos it was all stressing me out too much! i came home and tried to tell my dh and couldn't stop crying!!! what a divvy hey!!??? feel a bit more together now and i know once i have been on a big 'baby shop' WITH my dh to keep me calm, i will feel much better! just dont seem to have the time at the moment!!! you wouldn't think i have done this twice before in the last 4 years would you?!!!

on a good day, i think "so what if baby was to come early and i didnt have anything, all they need is boobs, nappies and cuddles" and then on a bad day (like today!) i go into a HUGE panic!!!

Hey - a little boy for Iampg - Thats lovely news. And I love Oscar! . You must be really really happy... Good luck with all the moving.

Great to hear that things are going well for Ty - you sound so happy and relaxed Firsty, you really do - its lovely to hear. Keep up the good work getting some rest! You too babymad , when you can.

Greeds - Yup, x factor has started. I was like you I thought it all led up to xmas for the xmas number 1. It definately seems like a winter thing to me. But I guess it is cold enough - Grrrr... mind you its been fairly nice in Edi today.

MtsMc - I reckon the advice of Bodders and Firsty is pretty spot on. Why not just say that you'll need to keep an open mind about xmas depending on how you feel at the time. At least its not too far away if you do decide to go... I reckon spend the morning there, let everyone make fuss over you, collect your presents and then go home to camp on your sofa for the rest of the day . The doula sounds lovely - well done for getting it sorted.

Oooh, both girls asleep Bodkin - that must be heaven!!!! So tempting to just let Nelly snooze on.

I did my first major outing with my two boys today on my own - Seaworld!!!! It was going really well until we were at the start of the walkway where the sharks are. I needed to feed Theo so got settled on a seat at the start. Then max took off and started running down the walkway - I had to chase after him with Theo still latched on!!! Finally caught him and Theo didn't even break his sucking pattern at all. I must of looked like a numpty chasing after a toddler with another wee boy attached to a boob!!! The things you do eh... I never would have done that with DS1, its wierd how things change when you've got another to think about.

Anyway, better get DS1 to bed - he running rings round his Grandpa downstairs.

chooster you have made me feel really bad!!! my last post was so ME ME ME!

i didnt even congratulate you iwillbe, sorry [hangs head in shame]. a little boy for you is FAB news! boys are so loving and cuddly! i love the name oscar too, my friends little boy is called oscar and he is a real sweetie!

chooster - i can remember doing all sorts of bizarre things with dd that i would NEVER EVER have done with ds!!! i dread to think what i will end up doing with this one!!!

mrs - wait and see how you feel nearer the time re christmas! its AGES away and you might really fancy going and getting fussed over when it gets closer. i went to my parents for xmas when i was 39 wks pg with dd and i have to say it was lovely cos my mum was a complete star looking after me and taking ds off my hands too. it was much more relaxing for me than being at home, but i was only a 40 min drive away from my house and hospital in case anything had kicked off!

feeling much more chilled out now than earlier. probably cos my dh just told me not to do any painting tonight and to go and relax!!! so i am cooking dinner and gulping a lovely ice cold beer to wash down my tortilla chips and guacamole!!! (in between popping on here of course!!)

Hi all

Congratulations on the boy scan, Iampg!! hope your house move goes well - really feel for you. We are still surrounded by piles of stuff, which we've yet to find a home for!! I AM NEVER MOVING AGAIN!!!!.....[well at least for the next 2 years, before DH is posted somewhere else!!]

Bodders - remind me that your DD1 went through quite a bad patch re sleeping etc just before DD2 was born. My DD is being a real minx at the moment - she's also developed separation anxiety which she's never had and cries hysterically if either DH or I leave her. She wants to hold my hand until she falls asleep (I'm refusing, but then she cries so heartbrokenly, that I start crying!). She's waking at least twice a night and although DH goes to her, she refuses to tell him what the matter is, as she wants me (she's never wanted me - she's always been such a Daddy's girl!). Please tell me this is a normal phase, that will pass before little one is born!

Chooster - you are so brave! I'm not I'll be venturing out anywhere on my own with both children - unless it is to the supermarket or something relatively safe! Glad weather is better with you - pretty chilly here today, but i found it refreshing as I'm so hot at the moment - thank goodness, we are not having a hot summer!!

Mrs - as everyone as said. I would hold off on plans for Christmas. I'm sort of with you, I'd probably prefer the thought of being in my home comforts, but it may be nice to get out of the house for a bit around then? DH is taking me to London this weekend as it is our 6th wedding anniversary on Saturday (DD is staying with my sister in London and we are staying saturday night in a hotel to have a lie-in on Sunday - dno't know where, that's a surprise!!). Anyway, i'm worrying about being over an hours drive away from home and I'll only be 35 weeks pregnant, so I do understand what you are feeling!! [annoying I'm on call over the bank holiday weekend - so there better not be any emergency questions early on Sunday morning, as that will be so irritating!!!! But it does mean more money to play with on maternity leave, so can't really complain!]

Firsty - as others have said, so good to hear you sounding so relaxed, happy and back to your sensible, caring self. don't give your bf problems a second thought - you gave him some breast milk - it is the first few days that are the most important for antibodies etc. Thank you so much as well for the hospital bag list - I'll certainly be printing that off and packing from it!! And I'm even more worried now about being caught out when my waters break!!!!! We had some antibacterial gel somewhere - I saw it just before we left and thought I must take that with me, but of course, i've no idea where it is currently!! [also lost my urine pot for my appointment tomorrow, so had to nip to the surgery to get another one after work today!! Wonder where and when that will turn up in the unpacking!!).

Seaside & Rainbowdays - how you both getting on? hope all well?

Honey - hope the rain is keeping away from your tent!! Still can't believe you are camping - I can barely get comfortable on nice soft mattress in a bed, can't imagine camping!!!

Buggymad - hope Connie is still going well. you make sure you're looking after yourself as though.

Greedy - calm down!!! We've still got 6 weeks. Were either of your other two early - have you any reason to think this one will be. Everything will work out fine, however it happens. I haven't even thought about breast pads etc - did put the steriliser in the kitchen though, and suppose I ought to find DD's bottles and see what state they are in, but suppose I'll have to get new teats I suppose and some cartons of formula, just in case!! Your house will be lovely when it is finished!! You are probably in the worst messy stage at the moment! At the end of the day, if needs be your little one can sleep with you and DH until you get sorted. I'm really sorry that your maternity leave isn't more sorted Greedy - you have to have some me and baby time.

Anyway, back at work today - really don't know how my boss is going to cope without me [fettle says with very big head!!]. She's on holiday now, so technically, I'm not going to see her until at least next June! Anyway, she left me a string of e-mails of things that she hadn;t got around to doing last week and could I do them for her and a list of things that I thought of that she's not done, that needed to be done last week, so I've been picking that all up today!! So want to just get on with my maternity leave - particularly with DD so unsettled at the moment. Got my consultant appointment tomorrow with my scan - so get see my little man again. hope he is a normal size and head down! DH can't come with me, so I'll be on my own, so it had better be good news!

Anyway, I've gone on far too long - , but DD has stopped making noises, so hopefully she's gone to sleep at last - she'll just be so tired again tomorrow!

take care all
xxx

oh, poor DD fettle - I'm sure its just the change of scenery and she probably just needs time and a little re-assurance. You've still got 6 weeks and it will have passed by then.

Just popped on to say I LOVE my amby - well Theo's amby. I popped him in after being awake most of the evening and he's just been swinging in it quite happily. Just popped head in the room and he's nodded off. Bliss!!!! It's probably a one off but its nice not to have to cuddle him to sleep and then put him to bed keeping fingers crossed he doesn't wake up. .

Sleep time for me - DS1 is at nursery tomorrow and DH is working so its just me and my little man - lovely

Hello ladies not feeling great today headache and sickness, toyed with staying home but sometimes it?s too much hassle to be off! Working from home tomorrow as have midwife in the afternoon so was hoping for a lie in but our house guests have decided to stay another night (nooooooooo so tired! ).

Bodkin synchronising your DDs already, I?m impressed! That?s a good idea re Christmas, worth considering thanks In Scotland, we have a lot less time to register the birth (that?s right Chooster isn?t it?) What a lovely name I really like them!

Greedy poor you, that baby shop sounded overwhelming! I wouldn?t know where to begin!

Chooster hello thanks for the Christmas advice LOL at you at Seaworld, that must have been really stressful though! Enjoy your day with Theo

Hey Fettle sorry to hear that DD is playing up your weekend plans sound lovely, hope they all work to plan. Hope the consultant?s appointment goes well today

Last night DH and I were at an ante natal physio class put on by our hospital. It was quite informative and highly amusing there were 23 couples and all the women were eyeing up each other?s bumps and comparing (not necessarily in a nice way either) we were all due within a week of each other so it was really interesting to see the progress people were making. The first speaker was an ancient midwife who did nothing to get the party going we had to go into groups and write down the good and bad things about pregnancy. It should have been fun, we all seemed to be around the same age and you could tell that some of the couples would have been good fun but the old bag concentrated on the negatives and really emphasised the doom and gloom of pregnancy, things like ?heartburn/cramps/constipation/sleepless nights, if your not getting it yet, you will and it hurts and you?ll be miserable? ?your relationships will change, you boys won?t get a look in? etc etc. Second half was the physio and that bit was really interesting and we all had some form of backache and we were taught how to sit, lie etc and the importance of pelvic floor muscles etc. Definitely worth going to even if I was shattered when I got home after 8!! Greedy will know all this but I hadn?t realised that we should be doing exercises for our transverse abdominals or pelvic tilts

hi All

Just quick as at work - well my apparently "small" baby is actually measuring the size of a 38 week old fetus!! His head circumference is off the scale!!! He's head down, which is good, but I'd probably rather consider a c-section now, I know the size of his head!

Had the unsympathetic MW in with the consultant, who told me not to be so silly worrying. I'd done it before and my body knew what to do! Bet she's never given birth to an elephant!!.

At least I know for certain I won't go past my due date now! Seeing consultant again in 3 weeks to see how things are going - and to see him earlier is itching starts or worried about fetal movements. My BP is also normal (which is quite high for me), so I've been told to take it easy and consider each day as it comes with regards to working until end of next week. Hard though as I feel a commitment to work, but I must think of baby!

Anyway, must go get some lunch, as have a meeting at 2pm.

take care all
speak tonight
xxx

can i have a quick moan?

bloody colic!

she screamed from 6pm til 2am last night, stopping only to feed or shit.

thats all

thanks for listening

hoping for a better night tonight

fettle - we are going to have to stop doing this!!! everything you mention that you have done panics me!!! you might not have thought about breast pads but you have got your steriliser in the kitchen..........STOP IT!!!
i am SURE that your dd will be fine at sleeping again in a few nights. you might have to get tough with her though! it must be a lot for her with the move and everything, so she will take a little while to adjust. my 2 had a nightmare couple of weeks when we were at my mums for a few days and then back home again and then back to my mums again etc. i think they felt really unsettled and i was worried that they would be like this once the new baby came. i kept thinking " i cant have ds waking up at 1am, new baby at 2am and dd waking up at 4am" BUT since being back at home since last wednesday they have been angels and slept through every night and till gone 7am most mornings. which isn't bad considering they are sharing a room the size of a shoebox! its just been ME that hasn't been sleeping through!!! so anyway, i am sure your dd will soon sort herself out again!
so now YOU are the one having a big baby, not me!!! i wish these people would make up their minds dont you? scans at this stage aren't supposed to be too accurate though, so try not to worry too much. did they tell you they wouldn't let you go over your due date then? is that how you know? and anyway fettle........................you are going to have to go some to beat old firsty aren't you!!!

mrs - are you going to do NCT antenatal classes? mine were very funny to begin but it was so nice to meet people going through the same thing as me and all at very similar stages. exercises? PAH!!! i KNOW what i should be doing, but dont actually follow my own advice!!! i cant even be arsed with pelvic floor exercises and they are VERY important!!! i just think..............i havent pissed myself yet and dh can still feel me squeezing his willy with my bits when he is inside me IYKWIM, so i cant be too bad!!! the exercises are very important though, so dont listen to me!!!

bodders - it is nice to hear you are human and isla is a normal baby who drives you mad from time to time! that is the first time you have come on here and moaned about her since she was born, so i reckon you are both doing ok! hopefully she will be more settled tonight for you. could be down to a growth spurt like you said.

that wasn't very sympathetic was it bodders, sorry. you moan as much as you want and we will all listen (and think "thank god its not me yet!!")

Greedy - you tell it like it is!!!

Bodders - sorry that colic is causing you and baby Isla trouble. There is nothing more draining than that constant crying, as there is nothing you can do to calm them down, I seem to remember - we found an exercise ball was the only way (other than constant walking, which was exhausting!) that we could get her to calm down a bit.

Chooster - what exactly is an Ambi? If they are that great, we might consider one!

DD slept through last night after taking so long to get to sleep - she's gone to bed a bit better tonight, but is still chatting away to herself at the moment - see how long that goes on for. Can just hear DH's car pulling up outside, so hopefully he'll come in quietly and not disturb her!!

yup, greedy - it is written in notes, not to go much beyond due date. Seeing community MW in 2 weeks, then consultant in 3 weeks to discuss how things are going. TBH having been induced early with DD, i quite like the idea as it gives you some control over when you're actually going to give birth - rather than this unknown, that I'm so scared of.

Mrs - hope you are feeling better this evening. It is rubbish that we are made to feel guilty taking time off work. I managed to leave a bit early today, by saying that my BP was up a bit and showing them my left foot, which was so swollen!

Right, better go give DH some attention now! Think I'm going for any early night - have some work I ought to do, but just can't face it!!

take care all
xxx

Cheers Greeds ! Oi pal, the only reason I haven't moaned so far is because this is a pregnancy thread and I don't want to freak out the rest of you still waiting to pop

Thanks Fettle - good idea about the exercise ball - I think it's in the garden somewhere - it got used as a giant spacehopper by my nephews after I had Isla!

DP is off walking the hills of Dorset with Isla in Baby Bjorn to give me an hour's peace!

Been doing some research on here and have a few other tips to try, but basically we'll just have to sweat it out for the next few weeks. First 2 weeks were fab - she slept all the time, next 2 weeks were ok-ish, got her to sleep eventually in the evenings by about 10/11 and then the last 2 weeks its been getting later and harder to pacify her. She's like a rabid animal sometimes, clawing at my neck and screaming at full pelt (even after a feed)

Fettle - hope your DDs sleeping sorts itself out soon - it is probably just that she needs a bit of extra securtiy at the moment after the move. Just keep reassuring her. I was quite blunt with my DD about how life with a baby would be before isla was born, but promised I would always still tuck her up and do her stories and milk (which I have done) even if I couldn't play with ehr much in the day. She seems to accept things now that the baby is here - her expectations were kept nice and low! But she did say all matter of fact and grown up the other day as Isla was screaming her head off "mummy, I did tell you not to have a baby didn't i?" which really made me laugh.

Forgot to comment on your big baby Fettle! Hasn't Honeyapples baby got a big head as well? Better get the almond oil out and start massaging the old perineum! I'm sure it will be fine - just remember to pant rather than push when the head crowns...

And Fettle - just read back to your earlier post about DD only wanting you not DH - I;m afraid my DD has started doing that - especially since Isla was born. And she seems to be taking things out on DP a bit - not being very nice to him, not letting him help her do things. It's been a bit wearing, but she's getting over it now. She even let him wipe her bum today which is a major breakthrough

Thanks for the reassurance re DD - at least i feel she might be normal! she went to sleep like a dream tonight, so maybe it will be ok in a few days time. But lots of cuddles and reassurance on the way (already been doing that, but think I need to do some more!). Good idea too about letting her know how things are going to be - i've been digging my head in the sand with regards to this baby actually coming out (really don't want that big head coming out at all now, but that's a different story). But i really must start talking more about how life is going to change - all DD is talking about now is going to "big" school when she leaves nursery - not really big school, but that's how she's describing it!!

Never did all that oil massage last time, but maybe I should give it a whirl this time - can't hurt and can only be a good thing!

hope the exercise ball works - seems to give the same movement as walking about does, but not quite so exhausting for you - (although it is great for your core/pelvic stabilty, so does you some good too!!!).

sleep well all
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Hello lovely TTC grads
I am back online (but may be a bit sporadically as stupid ISP is being rubbish ) About to change from Orange to BT I hope for better/consistent signal - one of he downsides of living remotely! So this is only a quickie as am scared will write and then get disconnected but gad to see everyone seems OK.

fettle - well done with the move and glad DD is settling a bit. Ouchhhh about big head? I have just been reading the Gowri Motha book which is really interesting and she suggests altering diet to aid birth esp of our bigger western bubs (something about reducing congestion of cervix etc?) - have you read it?

Bodkin - hope Isla is doing better and you got some sleep last night.

I was up in London last week and went to some very yummy mummy yoga classes with lots of ladies ready do drop (felt a bit of a fraud with my mini bump!) - I had a few giggles at the breathing exercises and visualisations.

Will try and catch up with all news and do a Mrsmc and write my post in word and cut and paste later today.

Have mw today - hopefully will hear heartbeat as I am still not really feeling anything - I am so nervous everytime? Think Mrsmc is off to mw too - good luck!

back later I hope xxx

Hey ladies left work at lunchtime yesterday, I just felt crap and couldn?t concentrate further more my stupid little assistant was being really bitchy and my boss was trying to dump stuff on me for a tight deadline because he couldn?t do the work after sitting on it for a week ? honestly, I am finding it harder and harder to cope with work, I have never let myself get so worked up about things before am working from home today as I have MW this pm but my assistant is still working her evil I wish I was better at brushing it all off.

Hey Fettle wow, big baby!! Hope things equal out over the next few weeks. Keep that thought in your head about thinking about you and the baby rather than work ? let?s have that as our motto Glad DD slept better last night.

Poor you Bodkin hope you had a better night with Isla last night. Freak us out all you like, I think this thread is great because we first timers are also getting an insight into the first few weeks with a newborn too. What?s this about almond oil?

Hello Greedy do hope to do NCT classes though they seem a bit disorganized at booking us in up here PMSL at your pelvic floor gauge

Hey Seaside nice to hear from you not heard of that book, tell me more yoga sounded fun thank you for your good wishes for today, as usual, I am all worried and nervous in case it?s not good, will this ever stop? I am not sure if/what I am feeling either which makes the worry worse . Hope all is well with you

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Oooh good luck on your mission Firsty! how are you enjoying not being mahoosively pregnant ? Re routines - i think it is probably easier to get a bottle fed baby into a routine as they can go longer between feeds. With DD1 I was hopeless and just muddled through, the only routined being she went to bed at 7pm by the time she was about 10 weeks. With Isla I am being more structured about the feeds - about every 3 hours, and it is much more successful. I do wake her for a feed in the daytime, but only if she looks like she is not going to wake up herself after about 3.5 hours. Naps are too difficult to structure at the mo, but I expect as she gets older and my days are more structured after summer hols (getting DD1 to preschool etc.) we'll fall into some kind of nap routine. But I'm not doing "she who must not be mentioned" or anything like that.

BTW we had a MUCH better night last night thank gawd! DP took her out for a walk while I put DD1 to bed, which was lovely, not having to rush her stories to attend to a wailing DD2 ("andthenthebillygoatsgruffwentacrossthebridge the end" ) Well, I say a walk, he managed to have 2 pints in the pub while she napped in the sling. I hope he wasn't resting his pint on her head! And then later i spent an hour "bicycling" her legs while watching Big Brother which was a real success - she loved it and it totally chilled her out and relieved her pain. Got her to sleep, in the cot, by 12 and she slept through til 6.30 Hurrah!!!! Norks like watermelons this morningn though

Seaside - lovely to have you back! Yummy Mummy yoga sounds like a giggle!

MrsMc - glad things went well with the doula Sorry to hear about your problems with your dozy assistant though. Almond oil is supposed to be good to use to massage the perineum (between the fanjo and bumhole, in case you didn't know, but I'm sure you do!) in theory to stretch and soften it in the last few weeks of pregnancy. not that I ever did that!

Better go - small baby needs me!