Pregnancy after m/c (part 7), true hand-holding and support along the road...

[Uki]

Thought I'd start this in honour of Purple's effort so far, hope you don't mind Purple I liked this title best.

Welcome to our shiny new thread

Thank you so much for all the contratulations.

Totally knackered here, take it this lasts the entire first trimester? Oh what fun!

also really paranoid about anything and everything to do with pregnancy:

Take it this is normal too.

I?ve just had the results of the Nuchal scan and I am over the moon we are low risk for Down?s ? 1:7851 and the risk of Edwards or Patels (sp!) is 1:20,000 ? such a lovely relief.

I can recommend it Ladylush

Ejt ? I imagine it?s hard to get it on with all that going on! you must be a very proud Mummy

Jules99 ? yippee hon! Hope the scan goes really well tomorrow. I know how much you have been through and I hope so much that all goes the way it should for you this time x

Uki ? indeed, had forgotten about the mid-30s thing!

Hey Mumpbump ? all sounding good with you and that?s lovely about your sis!

MRs McJnr that is wonderful news. am interested they gave you an Edwards risk - don't remember that last time. Is it a new thing or a speciality of where you wnet? did you ask for it specially?

Thanks Jules

VictorVictoria ? no, didn?t ask especially. I think that the scan and blood tests screen for the testable chromosomal defects and that Edwards and Patels can be tested for in the same way and so they do it. I seem to remember that the double test would also have looked at those two, I think they are trisomy 21 (or 23) and 18.

Plummy/Ladylush, have a dd (8) a ds (5) and a missed mc in January.
Part of me wants to shout out to the world that I am pg, but part of me is just expecting the worst. It really doesn't help that I have been suffering undiagnosed abdominal & leg pain since my ERPC in January, and the pains are continuing now so I feel even more paranoid. I had a scan a few weeks ago (to investigate the pain) and the sonographer said everything was in the right place, etc, and looked fine but I can't help but feel scared that something is amiss that will screw up this pg too. I can see a long, long, worrying few months ahead of me.......

MrsMc - Great news on the scan

feedmenow - you are certainly in the right place - if you look back to my posts on this thread at the end of Jan / start of Feb, then you will see your words echoed by me. Keep talking to us, keep letting us know how you're feeling. TLC is a recognised treatment in recurrent mc - and for those of us who don't have access to specialist treatment whilst pg, this thread provides the same sort of support.

mumpbump - please take things easy!

well, I had a busy morning at sports day - then the childminder who looks after ds phoned me at 1.30 to tell me that he's not well ...she dropped him home for me - I gave him calpol, and he's now fine ... I diagnose a severe case of 'wanting to be at home with mammy' ... doesn't help that dh is away on site today! And what have I done with him? Well, he's been watching thunderbirds - and playing at the same time - and I flaked out and slept on the sofa!

Going to see our GP in a bit - I want to go back to work for the last day of term, and I need her to sign me off ... (or is it sign me on again) - also need to see if there's any stronger painkillers she can given me in suppository form - the paracetemol is just not working ...

Hi everybody and welcome to all the recent additions for this thread! We all understand the panic and anxiety you are going through. It seems not too long ago I was exactly in the same position and time wouldn't move... Now, it seemed to have suddenly jumped and I have to deal with being big and clumsy and too hot and nothing fits and I want more sleep! Wonderful problems, I know...

Please share whatever you go through. As I said we all understand but it is especially good to share with somebody who is in the same position at the same time.

MrsMcJ - Fab news! Am very happy for you.

I beleive it's standard (I guess that doesn't mean anything in the postcode lottery) nowadays to test for Downs (trisomy 21) and Trisomy 13 (Edwards) and Trisomy 18 (don't
know if this has a name...)

Mumbump -- welcome back and go home while you can can!! It's a nasty cold, it is!!!

Uki and Firststar, I think I will be a little heap of complaining being when I get to your stage!!! Thinking of you...

Fettle

EJT- Hope you will find something that helps a little better. I am so sorry you are in so much pain!

. madly at everybody else!

plummyladylush.....missed vvs post completely last week...I'm so so sorry to hear your news. your soh and upbeat air are an example to everyone. wishing you the best for the future.xx

gosh it's been busy on here, I can't keep up these days.

congratulations to all the newbies and hello again to some old faces. fingers crossed for all of you. Use this thread to your advantage, it's been fantastic for me

firststar....I'm keeping my eye on the July thread, but I'll be on holiday over your due date, so good luck if i miss you!

Uki...not long for you now either!!

A quick hello to everyone else and sorry I haven't mentioned you all by name....babyboo is kicking off again.

take care lovelies

UKI - sadly no, my bladder is weak. I managed to cough, puke and wet myself all at the same time Actually that is quite an achievemt
Forgot to say, all, got blood test back, Down's risk is 1 in 16947. Guess that is pretty good. Felt relieved then felt guilty about being relieved IYSWIM.
Seems like loads of people have this horrible cold, I'm convinced it's due to this horrible wet and humid weather.
Jules - welcome to the club, you'll be in good company.
MrsMC - Fab news about the scan, do you have piccies? Did they let you have one?

Hello to everyone else!

yup, ive got manky cold as well have had it for a few days so hopefully it'll disapear soon

Hello (waves) how is babybootoo? Hope all going well

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Well, the visit to the GP was not really that good. I told her that I just couldn't cope with the pain, and that I'd tried some cocodamol and it had made me really sick all day Sunday - and she told me off for taking it! FFS - I took it because the thingy I had from the hospital had an analgesia ladder on it, and said that cocodamol was fine to take! Anyway, she's not given me any more paracetemol suppositories, but she's given me some NSAID gel to rub in instead. I tried saying that I couldn't use it (I am severely allergic to NSAIDs), but she just brushed off my concerns and said I'd have to use a lot of it! I am in so much pain, so much of the time, that I can't do any of my normal activities.

Great state of mind to be in today - as today is the day I go to see the consultant midwife and try to get her to agree to me delivering in the water in the MLU. I may explain my problem with the GP (she (the GP) is usually really good, and I think I may ask for a referral to the obs. pain clinic. I am really worried about today - in that I burst into tears every time I think about delivering this baby - I thought I'd got my head sorted out, but maybe not! I don't want to look a t!t in front of this woman.

Am really, really scared.

Morning ladies

Feedmenow ? sorry to hear about those undiagnosed pains take care of yourself.

Thanks Ejt hope DS is feeling better today. Sorry to hear that things didn?t go that well at the GP and that you are in so much pain hon come on hon you can do this today with the consultant if you need to write down all the points you want to make so you make sure you say that then do that. One of the reasons could be pain relief from the water! Good idea to discuss the pain and a referral. You just never know, the outcome might be really positive! How come you are so worried about the delivery hon? Did you have a bad experience before? (sorry if I know that and have forgotten ) Don?t be scared, imagine us there with you! Let us know how you get on.

Hello Glimmer bet you are not big and clumsy at all! Maybe Trisomy 18 is the Patals Syndrome? Not sure. Any relief on feeling so hot?

Hello Daisy ? enjoy your holiday

Hey Bouncing ? uggh! That multi tasking sounded nasty! wow your Down?s risk is the lowest I have ever heard are you 15?! (just kidding hon) that?s fabulous!! Why feel guilty for being relieved? I got 3 pics I have scanned them into my computer but as they are pdfs not jpegs I cannot work out how to upload them to my profile ? do you know how I?d do that?

Hope you are feeling better Spugs

Hello Ladylush

Hey Firsty you were up late! sorry to hear the wait is so tiring! Yup hope to get another pic this week that?ll be the last one I imagine, friends have told me that after this you can?t fit the whole body on the screen in one go

can i crash this thread a for a min (sorry). I just got a bfp this morning and haven't yet told DP, hence the disguise for now. I am so so worried about everything since missed m/c last year. Surely i am not alone in being really happy and really terrified at the same time?

peeonastick - congrats, and it is only natural to be scared, a lot of us still feel this way hence why this thread has been a bit of a Godsend

MrsMc - Not sure why I feel guilty, I guess it's to do with other people have a higher risak and being so worried!

EJT - sorry to hear you are really suffering, that GP sounds like a right arse! Hope you get more help from your consultant!

Hi Peeonastick. Congratulations and welcome to the club of paranoid preggies! Yes, being terrified and very happy at the same time is typical for us. Have a cup of decaf tea and a sit-down and try to process the fab news. We are here for you whenever you need us.

EJT -- so sorry to hear about your bad experience. MrsMcjs advice is as always good: make a list what you would like discuss with the consultant midwife. I would mention the SPD but maybe not in its full severity? (Don't know if this is good advice...) This way she knows that she has to look out for it, but won't deter you from a natural birth. As for pain treatment: I have never used it in this context, but I think that accupuncture could really help, especially in this state of aggrevated pain. Maybe you could also ask if there is an independent midwife or similar, that has experience with SPD and natural birth. Hope your appointment will go well. You know that you can get through this and in the end you will have a beautiful little baby, so try to concentrate on the outcome.

peeonastick - congratulations on your bfp - I sincerely hope that your stay on this thread is long and uneventful. We've all had the same paralysing fears early on, and I for one found life was much easier when I talked about it with the other lovely ladies on this thread.

Glimmer - thank you for your good advice - they tend to advise women (at least in my area) with spd to stay away from C section if at all possible, as it adds added unnecessary healing to the process. It's important that she realises that although I get a lot of pain, I can manage it with support.

I've been having acupuncture for the pain, but the problem is that I never seem to see the acupuncturist when I am at my worst (in the evenings, usually)

MrsMc - thank you for your usual stirling advice. I have written down what I want to say and I have printed off a copy of my birth story to give to the midwife this afternoon. I wrote it down last year when I was pg last time as a catharsis as I was having horrendous nightmares and flashbacks. I had counselling at that time, but because of the horrific time I had with the mmc, it was sort of left behind.
To put it briefly (I realise that this probably isn't the appropriate place to write about it as the issues that we face here are somewhat different), the birth of ds was immensely traumatic - a 100 hour induction, ending in C section, followed by a horrendous few days in hospital being grabbed and man-handled, and left without pain relief.

The reason I'm seeing the Consultant Midwife this afternoon is because although I am desparate to try for a vbac, there is some part of me which cannot cope with the thought of any sort of machinery around me at all when in labour. I'm seeing her to try to get her to intercede on my behalf so that I can be given access to the ML unit. My ideal would be to have the baby at home - but my high risk of pph makes that not a realistic option.

Sorry, I'm waffling on again - I'll let you all know how it goes - and, you know, if I need to cry, I'll do just that - maybe then she'll realise what a big deal this is for me.

Peeonastick ? congratulations hon! nope, you are not alone, you are in great company here, we all felt/feel the same. Enjoy breaking the news and come back and talk to us regularly, this thread is certainly helping me through

Bouncing ? I see where you are coming from

Thanks Glimmer

AM outing myself as i have told DP now...I was peeonastick
Thank goodness this thread is here, i am ALREADY paranoid about every twinge but i have symptoms this time!!!

MrsMc, I was only wondering how you were doing the otehr day.been thinking of you often. I haven;t read the thread thru but i am sure ther are other familiar faces.

Yipee! how exciting! lovely to have you with us - may you stay for at least 30odd weeks! How did DP take the news? you are very restrained, I jumped on DH's head at 4am and stuck the stick under his nose I'm good thanks 14 weeks today

Hi all!
CONGRATS to Angua, Winky, Spugs, Feedmenow and MumofSlytherinsMonsters (fab name by the way!), hope you're all her for the long haul - these girls are great and really helped me get through the first 13 weeks.
PurpleLostPrincess, sorry you are having such a rough time hun, don't worry about moaning on here, tell us all about it. Just because you are not having an easy time does not mean you are not grateful for being pg and I'm sure people who are still in their danger zones won't feel you shouldn't moan. You have already been through what they are going through now.
Ladylush, good new name, how are you doing hun? Hope you are okay x
Angua, its perfectly normal to feel v v v tired in the first bit! I used to fall asleep anywhere, DH once came home from work when I was pg with DS1 and I was asleep on the floor with the hoover in my hand! Paranoia and worry is also par for the course after m/c but keep talking to us on here, it really helps.
Spugs, don't think you need a slap hun but don't worry about those lines too much, it was a couple of weeks before my lines got darker.
Firststar, 2 weeks to go! Wow, tightenings sound promising - hope you get some action soon, the last few weeks do really drag.
Bouncing, head is much better now thanks! Glad you had a good holiday despite the rain, it is nice just to get away I think. So pleased your blood tests came back with good results!
VV, not long until your scan now, hold on hun, fingers crossed for your LO. Would not worry too much about size of bump TBH, I was no bigger at any stage of pg with DS1 & DS2 (or this one) until I got to 30+ weeks, then it got bigger! The only time I have been bigger was similar to LadyLush and was last year with m/mc, I was massive.
MrsMc, how are you? Sounding cheerful at the moment! So pleased all is going well for you this time and your Nuchal results are great. You may be able to change your pics to a jpeg format, if you open the pic, go to file and save as, rename the pic and you may also have a drop down box below in which you can change the file type. Does that make any sense? As for hols, am off to Orkney next week to see DH's sister, can't wait! We are also taking a trip over to Westray while we are there which I am looking forward to as have not been on any of the other islands before! There is some kind of carnival on I think.
Ejt, hi! You must be very proud of DS, bless him! We had sports day last week and DS1's team won the relay and DS2 won the 'toddler race', so proud of them! Sorry you are in so much pain, hope your appt goes well and you get what you want from it (including your VBAC, completely understand why you are not keen on the machines!)
Jules, hope your scan went well today hun, all your symptoms are sounding good and is great that beanie is in the right place! I know it is a worry but spotting is not always bad, I had it at 5-6 weeks along with nasty cramps, I was convinced it was all over but I'm 16+5 now. MW told me it was prob baby burrowing further down and getting comfy - I liked that explaination.
Mumpbump, lovely to hear from you, glad you are okay and congrats for your sister too!
MumofSlytherinsMonsters, you are definitely not alone here, these girls have been a godsend to me! Terrified and happy describes exactly how I felt to begin with (and to a certain extent still do).
Hi to Fettle, Glimmer, Daisy and Babyboo and everyone else!
All seems okay here, getting squiggles now and again which is nice! Got quite a bump now and have ordered a stack of maternity stuff today - fed up with undone trousers!

MrsMc, we weren't officially trying. Just more of a case of no protection. I didn'tw ant the pressure! I rang him at work and he kept saying oh a lot. He will come round by the time he gets home (i hope!)

So glad you are at 14 weeks now

BcecklePhoenixbird, i am usually mumofmonsters so it was a pretty straight forward HP name change lol!

Hey Beckle ? thanks hon just taking each day as it comes, the good ones are the best of course! I?ll try the jpeg trick thanks. Orkney should be lovely my grandpa?s from there and I?ve never been ? he always said I couldn?t go without him but he?s finding it harder to get up there these days . The carnival sounds fun too! Squiggles sound exciting

Mumofmonsters ? I?m sure he will be grinning from ear to ear by the time he gets home!