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Thread number 3 ladies... good grief we can chat!!!

Ooooh predictions... I reckon for me:

Boy (err that was an easy one)
2nd September
7lbs 12oz

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Chooster - dont get too excited about GD - it was a repeat hate that - such a cop out!!

Bodkin - west is best !!

predictions - arghh - I have no idea - if we get there I am sure I will be late - 24 January is my prediction
weight ??
sex - would be lying if I did not say girl - but thats more about preconceptions and imagining rather than what I actually feel - Chinese cal says girl but realstically I think prob boy - my DH is convinced it's a boy already!

firststar - glad mw appointmet was good

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Firsty ? so glad it went well at the MW

Lots of boys then! LOL.

Loads of boys! Wow.... MrsMc, I'm thinking girl for you, 7lbs 2oz and born on the 10th January.

We must keep track and see how near (or far!!! off we were.

Oh bugger - I hate repeats - especially GD repeats. I'll have to make do with my recording of property ladder then seaside . Where you live sounds lovely!!! We also live in London until 3 yrs ago but we headed up to Edinburgh instead. Its where DH is from and all my family are still in Newcastle so it made sense really.

Firsty - Very glad MW appt went well. She sounds great! And so right about the sizes. I'm quite 'hippy' so reckon there was probably some space already for DS2 to stretch out in. I still feel big, but I guess mainly because I feel quite heavy and uncomfortable these days. More than with DS1 (I think ). Wow, talking about hospital bags and stuff!!!! Our time is coming along pretty soon

I got a call from HR today to say that I need to start my maternity leave on the 15th July instead of the 22nd July as 22nd is my due date... So, given I've still got 21 days holiday left I could have been finishing up on the 15th June - But my boss has said they would rather pay me for 5 days holiday and still keep me there until the 22nd June. I guess the extra cash will be good

Anyway, am waffling away.... Heard from cousin and her DH fainted when the epidural needle went in (she needed forceps) - My DH said, "Ah, thats the difference between men and women" - How right he is!!!!

Hi All

Just popping in to say hello - got some work to do tonight and still got to cook supper, so no time to catch up!

Just want to say Chooster, you're tiny if you're only 40in now!! Greeds and I are way past that already!! And believe me, I'm "hippy" too, so that's no excuse!

Chinese Horoscope thingy by the way was wrong for DD, unless she's going to have sex change in the future (please hope not!!!), but was right about this little one, assuming the sonographer has got it right!!!

Big hugs to all - take care
xxx

Ohhh, maybe I'd better go and measure again. DH did it for me last night, maybe he was trying to be nice

I make it 41" - I feel big though!

Hiya,
According to the Chinese thingy I am having a girl... could well be... had the worst "morning sickness" so far with this PG... (although not actually sick)... and I've heard that you are more likely to have be having a girl if you are sick.

Chooster/Fettle- what was your MS like?
Better/worse/same as before?

Mrs- My DS was born on the 11th Jan weighing 6 lb 10...

I predict to be late... as was VERRY late with DD... also predict baby to be a bit bigger... 7 lb 10 maybe?

How about 31/10/07 7.10 girl
(halloween baby!)

Going on farm trip today with DD playgroup. She is super excited.

we are going camping today girls so wont be back til mon/tues
hope you all have a lovely bank holiday weekend

my predictions are boy 10th feb 7 pounds 12

byeeeee xxx

il catch up when i come back

plus i have booked an early scan 23rd june

xx

Good call on the early scan Iwillbe - its worth it I reckon for early re-assurance. Enjoy camping - hope you get nice sunny weather.

Honeyapple - I'm not surprised your DD is excited! The farm trip sounds fab!!
I've had 3 pregnancies (all boys) and my MS has got steadily worse with each one. I remember just feeling nauseous with DS, then in my second pregnancy I was ill quite a lot in the evenings, then this time I was nauseous all day and throwing up quite a lot. Maybe its because I couldn't rest as much as the first time as I had a toddler to look after too? But my bump size / shape is the same this time as with DS, so I'd have guessed it was a boy even if I hadn't found out (thats if you believe the stuff about how you carry the bump and gender).

Hope everyone is looking forward to nice long bank holiday weekends!! I really am, nit doing much, in fact DH is working most of it, but it'll still be fun.

Happy camping Iwillbe - hope the weather is good for you. We're going in a few weeks time (will be 8 months by then, so not sure how comfortable I'm going to be!)

re morning sickness - absolutely none with DD, and not much to speak of this time round, although a pretty strong aversion of sweet things in the first 3 months. Gosh Chooster, you played your morning sickness down - I had no idea you were suffering so badly!

Just started a thread on my crampy aches I've been getting, as just had one that lasted a couple of minutes and i had to grit my teeth and swear a bit! it is still lingering around but has got a bit better since I've sat down. Perhaps it is my body telling me to stop working and go and have a lie down... - mind you, I've been having them at night as well while I'm lying in bed

Chooster I?ve noted my prediction and yours in my Baby Diary ? we?ll see! Extra cash sounds good! I only have 8 holidays left until the end of next April how I miss working for a Bank! I haven?t given it much thought yet but think I?d like to finish up just before Christmas. DH will also be able to take quite a lot of time off as he has lots of holidays left and gets a week paid PL I think. Ugh epidural, ugh forceps ? ahhhh what am I doing?!

Fettleandbluemini ? hello!

Honeyapple Halloween baby sounds fun!

Have fun Iwillbe! 23/6 ? not that many sleeps!

Bodkin hello!

Can I have a rant? It has 2 parts!

1. MIL ggggggggggrrrrrrrrrr ? ok, she is excited and wants to shout our news from the hill tops but she is making me very nervous and uncomfortable as she is telling the world and his wife and probably his dog too! when we told them 2 weeks ago, we explained that the only reason we were doing so was because it was too stressful having to lie to them about my not drinking, not going to things etc and we wanted them to know why we were maybe a bit preoccupied. It was not an invitation to take out a full page spread! If this works out it will be their first grandchild and I do understand how excited they are but my MIL?s behaviour is causing me stress! I was meant to be going out for dinner tonight with her, 4 of her sisters, SIL, female cousins etc to celebrate one of MIL sister?s B?days. I was already worrying about how shattered I?d be after the working week and how I?d manage to go on from work when they changed the plan and booked a table for 9pm for dinner miles from the train station. On that basis, I decided to pull out because that is just too late for me. I told MIL that I would let her Sis know but then MIL started to try and change everything and started going on about how excited she was about us telling all the family at the dinner etc etc. To be honest, that was another issue with the dinner. The Sis who?s b?day it is lives abroad and was staying with us last weekend and let it slip that 2 of the other sisters had criticised me for telling my PIL about my MC. One said I should have kept it to myself and the other said that as it was before 12 weeks, it wasn?t even a baby and I was being dramatist and should have just forgotten about it and not told anyone. As you can imagine, I was pretty hurt. So when MIL started going on and on the ?phone about telling them this time I told her I?d rather she didn?t I didn?t want to be judged for telling them when they would see it as too early. MIL obviously conveyed this to B?day girl who now feels I betrayed her confidence!!! I just do not need this crap!! Middle aged, bored women, what are they like!! So that?s rant 1.

2. My DH is being so unsympathetic yes I am not ill, I am pregnant and yes I damned well want to be and I am not complaining but I would like a little more understanding from him as to why I am tired and emotional and whilst people go through so much worse, it is a big deal for me having to inject daily. I hate needles, I dread it and it hurts and yesterday?s left a massive bruise but he has no sympathy, he just shrugs his shoulders. Is it wrong to want to be protected and babied a bit? Last night I asked him to lift the laundry basket which is 5 foot, wooden and was full and he gave me a withering look as if I was pathetic! I just don?t get it; you?d think he?d want to take care of me especially after what we have been through I guess I am also a bit miffed with him over our anniversary. It is our first anniversary next Sat and he is going on a Stag from Thurs to Sunday. I am annoyed but have known about it for sometime. Whilst we are skint and I know that gets him down, I think it is so unfair that he is not planning anything to celebrate the day or to make it up to me and is blowing all that money on booze abroad! I guess I am just not feeling very important to him at the moment

Thank you for listening, guess it?s probably just the hormones making me paranoid but I?m feeling really lonely at the moment!

Grrrr, people eh? MrsMc.

Your DH's family dinner sounds like too much hassle - I reckon a strategic white lie is called for. Perhaps just say to your MIL that you've been suffering a bit in the evening with MS and you are worried that you wont be well regarless of whether they change the location etc. As it is, a table booked at 9pm means you wont be eating til 9.30 ish which would have been too late for me in the early stages of this pregnancy. TBH, I dont think you need the extra worry of wondering who was saying what about you. Sorry if you mentioned it, but did your MIL end up telling any of them in the end? I think stay home, put your feet up and do some MrsMc pampering - especially as DH is away.

Its a shame DH is not being a little more sympathetic. I think it can be hard for them sometimes to realise whats going on before they can see anything showing. Even then is can still be a struggle. My DH is generally really good but if I say I'm too tired to do something in the evening, he gives me a look of "oh yeah...". I think he reckons I'm tired when it suits me . In the early days I could also tell that he was getting a little annoyed at me being sick in the evenings, cos it was putting him off his dinner!!!

Hopefully he'll come round soon, but in the meantime, dont do anyhthing you dont want to do and let him sort himself out. Hope you have a good weekend x

Bodkin, That pain sounds nasty?!? My aches are not that bad - I wouldn't say they were painful at all really, just a mild dis-comfort. Have you chatted to the mid-wife about them? Maybe strong BH?

My MS wasn't too bad by comparison to some, but I guess I was sick at least once every day for about 6 weeks. I was SO SO SO gald when it was over (sorry to those who may still have it to come )

Thanks hon you speak perfect sense! MIL has probably told them all! Then again, my own Mother has probably done the same even though she kept it from my Dad ? still feel awful that he thought he was being left out on purpose!

Hi All ? just quick as at work and very busy (as always!!)

MrsMc ? your IL-family don?t sound very supportive ? I take it none of them have children if this is to be the first grandchild on that side. Try and not listen to them ? you?re right they must be bored, if this is what they gossip about, other people?s misfortune!! Anyway, this time everything is going to be fine!!

As for DH?s ? I think it is hard for them to realise that you are more tired, as you can?t really see tiredness in the same way as a broken ankle, say. With DD, I was on my own through most pg as DH was based in Northern Ireland, so I could just go to bed in the evening and eat toast, which was all I could eat (MS was much much worse with DD than with any of my other pg!). This time around, even with 2 mc in the past, I sometimes feel that DH thinks I?m only tired and sick when it suits me!! I fell asleep on the sofa when I came home last night, so he had to put DD in bed and he was pretty grumpy and said he was really tired too!! I tried to explain that I knew he was tired, but I was extra tired as I was pg, but that didn?t go down too well!! I have to say though that due to my pelvis problems, he is being going about the not lifting things ? but still gets grumpy when I use that as an excuse for not hanging the washing up (as I?d need to carry the wet clothes upstairs first!).

Hope you manage to have a good weekend anyway ? it will get better. Your hormones are going to be everywhere at the moment, worries about injecting, worries about everything being ok, thinking about Ava, it is completely understandable you feel the way you do ? so go and have some yummy chocolate and put your feet up (alternatively, next time he looks witheringly at you ? be sick on his feet!!)

No predictions about this little one, just everything crossed that I?m 50% lucky and don?t get obstetric cholestasis again, but as DD was 7lb 4.5 oz at 36 weeks, I don?t want to think how big this little one will be at 42 weeks overdue!!! [OUCH!!!!]

By the way, got my letter through today, so I?m promoted as of June 1st ? just told my boss, once I?ve signed it, I?ll tell her I?m starting mat leave on 15th June!!! Only joking, but it?s tempting. Not as much money as I would like, but it is 10% more than I?m currently on and I am taking the p*ss a bit, by going on mat leave within 3 months of starting the job and I?m not very good at asking for more money, so I?ll no doubt just accept it!!

Cried my eyes out this morning when telling DD?s nursery that she?ll be leaving them at the end of Aug, but I can?t commute 120 miles a day, while on mat leave just to take her to nusery cos she loves it ? she?ll understand won?t she? She?ll have a bright, new shiny school to start in September anyway! Any a little brother to play with in her shiny new house [please tell me she?s going to cope with everything we?re throwing at her all at once!!]

Gosh, gone on a bit ? really must go now.

Love and hugs to everyone!
Have lovely weekends ? hope rain holds off.
xxx

Aww, MrsMc, its horrible feeling all stressed and that no one is on your side. Hopefully just getting it out of your system has made you feel a bit better. Listen to the Chooster, she speaks absolute sense about the meal. As for your DP, that's what we're here for - loads of sympathy and moral support. He'll have days where he is a bit rubbish, and other days where you wonder what on earth you'd do without him

Better dash and pick up DD. Pains have subsided now and feel totally fine, but am keeping a note of when I'm getting them and how long they last for as have MW appt next week, so will ask then if they don't get any worse.

Congratulations Fettle!!! Great to get a promotion... There is no way anyone in their right mind would give me a promotion at the moment - my mind is just SO not on my work... Must pull my socks up

DD will be fine Fettle - am sure... She'll probably have her moments when she is sad to be leaving friends at nursery, but in the long run it'll be much better to get these changes out the way.

Glad pains are a bit better Bodkin - wonder whats causing them?? Good idea to write down when you get them.

Thanks Fettle they all have kids but none of our generation have had any yet. I appreciate the faith I had a look in the book shop at lunch time for bloke books on pg but none of them really took my fancy. Quite partial to the idea of being sick on him today. Congratulations on the job - make the system work for you hon, it hardly ever works that way if you don?t! DD will understand

Thanks Bodkin hope the pains stay away

MrsMJ, sounds like you're having a crap time all round.

You need to have a chat with your DH. If his family are making life unpleasant for you, you need to at least be getting support from him.

Pregnancy can be bloody hard work from time to time, especially feeling knackered at the beginning and end and the way hormones play havoc with your emotions, and you need to feel you're not alone in it - but obviously you're still doing all the work!

I know it can be hard for partners to understand the exhaustion at the beginning when there's no real evidence of the pregnancy (at the end there's a massive in your face bump which can not be ignored!), but even so a bit of understanding is the least you should expect. Don't let him off.

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hi everyone am just popping on to say hello before the weekend - was away for two weeks on holiday (was fantastic) and work was an absolute nightmare when i got back, but i will read through this thread at the start of next week and hopefully catch up with where everyone is. but hope you are all doing well anyway.