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My partner's not ready for kids yet

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Tot0d1le666 · 02/04/2018 15:40

I feel really lost at the moment- like i dont have anyone to talk to about this.
i have been desperate for a baby for well over a year now- all my OH's friends and people we know are having babies/getting pregnant and this is so hard for me!
My OH isn't ready to be a dad yet, i understand but im just so depressed- i wouldnt be so bad if there wasnt so many people around us.
Feel like im suffering in silence as its between me and my partner- he hates talking about it because he sees how upset i get. i just cant help but feel horrible when our friends are talking about their babies/pregnancies.

To top it off, my OH's family are always asking when we're having a baby and there's always a lot of conversation surrounding that- makes me feel awful and makes it awkward for my partner.
I hate having to say to people that i dont want kids just to stop them from talking about it Sad

I've started to be weird about it all- i was addicted to buying pregnancy tests in the hope it'd come back positive- i've even bought baby booties! i'm obsessed and it's not healthy for either of us Sad all i do is watch baby hauls too, cant stop thinking about it.

I love my OH so much, i dont want it to come between us, i just can't cope with keeping it all inside.

any one get any ideas of how i can deal with this?

OP posts:
Rainbowqueeen · 02/04/2018 19:32

If it's your DPs family who keep asking, why isn't he dealing with them? He should be making it clear to them that babies are not in your immediate future and that they need to stop asking.

If it's that upsetting for you to be continually asked about it by them, why isn't he doing that?

Kate123cl · 02/04/2018 19:33

Me either, OP. It confuses me as to why people would go out of their way to comment rude things! Just scroll past if have nothing helpful / encouraging!Hmm

TheCrystalChandelier · 02/04/2018 19:33

OP, in theory there’s nothing wrong with having babies young. My parents were early twenties when they had me and my siblings and certainly now that we’re older I am glad that they were younger as I do fear that with people having children older and older now we are heading towards a grandparentless generation (talking about people having children into their 40’s and beyond...)

But there are numerous things to consider here.

You say that you are in a well paid job and that your next promotion is just three years away. That’s now while you’re young and childless. Fast forward a year when you have a baby, have taken a career break and then another year when you’ve had another baby or are expecting one and that promotion that was just three years away is likely to go to someone else while you’re at home bringing up the kids.

Then fast forward another fifteen years, the kids have left or are leaving home and heading to university, and meanwhile your career has nose-dived due to the fact you spent all your twenties at home bringing up the kids while others were excelling in your career. And you’ll have another 25 years in which you need to work but you’ll be the older generation by then and the 21 year olds of tomorrow, the kids the age your kids will be at will be the ones excelling in your career while you’re doing a general job because you gave it all up to have children so young.

Obviously there are people out there who juggle a career with parenthood, but those are the people who plan to do so early on. It sounds here as if your plan is to give up work to have children and go back at a later date. The thing is, that later date won’t put you back into the career you’ve left, you’ll be as many years behind your peers as you’ve taken out to be a parent and you’ll be at a huge disadvantage but it’ll be worse for you because you’re so young and will have so much more time left to be a part of the work force than your peers who have waited until their late twenties to have children - while they have built their careers in the meantime.

Don’t get me wrong, there’s nothing wrong with staying home with the kids. I did it because I could afford to, and I had mine in my late twenties. However getting back into work is almost impossible now that the DC are older, and added into that mix is the fact that I became a single parent which wasn’t a part of my master plan.

Having babies is lovely. But it’s such a short time in a child’s life. The being pregnant and having a baby is just a year or two of the process. And then it’s toddlers, preschool, having no money because you have to buy clothes for the kids, pay for school trips, and then they grow into stroppy teenagers, and then they leave home and you’re the one left behind knowing all you gave up for them and the fact that they don’t care because they’re off doing their own thing.

Being broody is just a feeling. Getting that positive test is just a snapshot of the process. There is so, so much more to it all than that, but it’s often too late by the time you realise that.

Your partner is being sensible wanting to wait. Realistically leaving someone because they won’t commit to children while you’re only 21 is not realistic. Even if you find someone who wants babies sooner rather than later the reality is that it’s better to wait until you’re in an established relationship before even trying. So that’s maybe another two/three years to then start trying and then maybe another year to fall pregnant, and another nine months before you have your baby assuming all goes to plan with the pregnancy.

It’s far more realistic to tell family that you’re only 21 and there’s plenty of time to be having babies. And then refuse to discuss the subject further.

Tot0d1le666 · 02/04/2018 19:34

@ilikebread

no but you made a comment about if im like this before having a child how will i be if i lose one.

Its none of you bloody concern! if you're not here to help me then dont respond?

Being strong against nosey people has nothing to do with being immature or young...

OP posts:
ilikebutter · 02/04/2018 19:37

Tot0d1le666 I stand by what I said. You need to stop being so sensitive and be strong. That’s good advise. There are tough times ahead and if you’re in bits just because you keep being nagged by family to have children then how are you going cope with anything far worse. Be a strong woman first, your future children need that.

ilikebutter · 02/04/2018 19:38

I’ve changed my name to ilikebutter by the way 😊

ANother27 · 02/04/2018 19:42

@Tot0d1le666 to be perfectly honest - 2.5 / 3 years ago - I could've written this post

Granted, I was 23 so a little older than you are now but I always knew I wanted a baby by the time I was 25. There's nothing wrong with that. I, like you, dreaded and hated every single baby/pregnancy announcement both in person and on social media. My H (at the time) was on the fence so as hard as it was I left the ball in his court so no pressure and one night not long after he bought my contraceptive pills out from the bedroom and put them in the bin in front of me. We took 9 months of trying before I got pregnant and that too was the most painful emotional 9 months of my life!!!

I guess what I'm trying to say is I feel you, and I know how hard it is but I'm 25 now with a 14 month old DS on my own h is now exh (not reasons to do with DS) but it's hard no matter what age you are.

I think you need to remember it's a good thing that your partner hasn't ruled out starting a family but Just wants a little bit of time.
Could you possibly sit down together and maybe have an informal chat and make some kind of timeline? Not a deadline (

raisedbyguineapigs · 02/04/2018 19:45

I may be barking up the wrong tree here, but I come from a family where marriage and babies is seen as a woman's 'primary purpose'. I had quite a meteoric rise in my career when I was youngish and rose quite high in my profession relatively young. (I'm back to where I was 15 years ago after having my children, but that's another story). My mother in particular, but many of the women in my family had absolutely no interest in my career, or how well I had done at University or my other professional achievements, but the fact I wasn't married and having babies at 25 was a massive issue. I realized that whatever I did professionally was of no consequence to them, and only once I had produced babies would I have achieved. If your whole family had babies young, it might just be that they don't understand how you could do anything different, as if its some kind of judgement on them, or that you have got above your station in some way. Look at why they are pressurizing a 21 year old to have children. Do you want a baby for you or for them?

TheCrystalChandelier · 02/04/2018 19:47

OP, ilikebutter has a very valid point. If you’re so upset at the thought of people asking you when you’re going to have a baby at 21, and you’re so broody to the extent that you are buying baby things and doing multiple pregnancy tests on a daily basis, then you are setting yourself up for a very hard fall if you have a baby now.

There is actually a higher than average instance of post natal depression in women who have IVF for instance, and much of that is because of the expectation they put on having a baby and the guilt they feel when things don’t turn out that way, e.g. they have struggled with infertility so finally becoming pregnant brings with it the expectation of a magical pregnancy with a baby loved beyond all measure, with immense guilt when it turns out that the perfect, long-awaited baby only sleeps for 30 minutes a day or screams or breastfeeding is impossible

Are you prepared for the fact that you may suffer miscarriages? One in four women do. Are you prepared for having to potentially give up your career and your life entirely if the baby has severe disabilities?

This isn’t just about wanting to be pregnant and watching that magical line appear on a test and having a lovely baby to cuddle after your magical pregnancy. It’s morning sickness, in some women to the point of having to be hospitalised. It’s potentially other pregnancy complications, it can be miscarriage, it might be having a baby with severe disabilities or even being told at the scan that something is seriously wrong and being faced with decisions you never thought likely.

Having children can be a wonderful process and I don’t regret having mine for a second.

But having children is a life altering process which will change your life your career, your relationship for ever.

NicoleSalski · 02/04/2018 19:50

"Man up"
"Be a strong woman"
"Stop being sensitive and be strong"

@ilikebutter do you realise what you sound like? Nobody should ever be told to 'man up' - she's a woman ffs! I wouldn't even say this to a bloke! "Be a strong woman", "stop being sensitive and be strong" - are women not allowed to have emotions now? Everyone goes through a time in their life where they are overly sensitive to something. Maybe this is something that has been playing on OPs mind for a long time.

Your advice is ridiculous and not constructive in the slightest. Seems like it's really important for you to be this tough woman who never has a wobble.

OP I can't see you gaining any more from this thread but I wish you all the best.

TalkFastThinkSlow · 02/04/2018 19:55

I had my son at 31, and I still think that was too soon. He was unplanned.

I think there has been some good advice on this thread, but it doesn't seem that you want to hear it

Also, I agree with Ginger

FranticallyPeaceful · 02/04/2018 19:55

“i wouldnt be so bad if there wasnt so many people around us.“

Meaning this is jealousy, not broodiness. Your OH is right to wait in this case.

Your post is full of things about how other people have XYZ and say ABC to you and you want it and want to be able to answer differently... Hmm . It’s like going on a car forum and posting about how you really want a car because all your friends have one and people keep asking you why you don’t have a car... do you REALLY want a car, or do you just want to show off your new car so other people can talk about your car?

Mymadworld · 02/04/2018 19:58

Op I really feel for you as wanting a baby when when everyone around you is pregnant or asking after your status is bloody annoying & can be emotionally draining (different scenario for me but same feelings) but I would advise:

1.sit down with DH and agree a sensible medium-term plan including ideal timescales. Something like baby by 25 so to achieve this ttc by 24. Assuming he's on board with this you really really are going to have to stop obsessing over babies and pregnancy. Get yourself on decent (ideally longer term implant or similar) contraceptive and bin the tests and baby bits. Talk to DH, admit it's been a problem but you want to work together so you get to a point you're both happy.

  1. Friends & family - stop being ambiguous or they'll keep asking. Make DH responsible for setting his family straight - no babies on the cards for another 3 year's minimum so please stop asking.
  1. Get married and buy a home - if not for fluffy reasons then practical/pre-baby legal reasons.
  1. Aim for and get your promotion. It's bloody hard virtually impossible to go back part time and climb the ladder in the same way after babies especially if you want a full year off. Make sure you have enough money saved to allow a full year of maternity and/or part time work after maternity.
  1. Get counselling for your fear of flying and join your OH on some adventures. You'll never do it after babies but will never regret doing it it in your 20's.
  1. Find some activities you enjoy together - travel, take up a sport or hobby anything to strengthen your relationship and help distract you from babies.

I do think there are massive benefits to being a young mum, but 21 is very young and definitely not advisable without the full support of your partner. Good luck op

grouchymamabear · 02/04/2018 20:04

I agree with what @sirlee66 has said. When you know that you're ready there isn't really a way to switch off those maternal feelings. It's difficult but true.

I knew I always wanted to have a baby but in my early 20s my family would constantly ask when I'd settle down and have kids. Since I had been single for a few years at that point, I also felt like I had to lie and say I didn't want kids. It was horrible. Now I'm 28, in a loving happy relationship (engaged but not yet married) and we have a 4 month old son and my family members constantly remind me that I said I didn't want to have kids.

External pressure is making it much harder for you to not be emotional about this because 1) you're ready for and want a baby 2) people around you are starting that phase of their life and 3) people are asking you what your plans are. If it was just between you and your partner then maybe it wouldn't feel quite so complicated?

I think waiting for 5 years while you're so young doesn't sound too unreasonable...but what happens if you wait and then your partner decides he's still not ready? It's already affecting you significantly so I suggest at least attempting to discuss it properly and rationally with your DP. If you can't get on the same page fairly soon then it'll just drive you apart. You can't force him to have a baby now but likewise he can't force you to wait that long if you don't want to. It's something you both need to consider - whether you can come to a compromise, one of you changes your mind or neither of you does.

And for what it's worth, I disagree with PPs - your age and not being married is in no way relevant to you wanting raise a child and sooner rather than later. Hope it all works out for you OP!

jkl0311 · 02/04/2018 20:10

Just flicking through this thread... OP your partner can see your just not quite ready for kids yet. I can see clearly on here your not ready for kids yet... the red flags are all there. He's being sensible and you just need to let the broodiness pass.... sorry.

RunRabbitRunRabbit · 02/04/2018 20:11

You are 21. Your boyfriend is 25. You got together 5 years ago. You say Not that its any of your business but i suffered from a miscarriage a few years ago. So he didn't use protection and got you knocked up when you were barely more than a child?

It sounds like you have got into an adult relationship too soon. People change hugely between the ages of 16 and 25. He's right to wait.

I have to say you sound like a person running to be old. Partner, management job, big savings pot, joint mortgage, recovery from mc all done at 21. Now you want a baby.

Are you trying to bypass something, avoid something?

Does your bf also have an amazing job?

MrsDx · 02/04/2018 20:13

Judgemental nasty ladies up in heeeeeerrrrreeee 😂 calm down and leave her alone for Christ’s sake....

FancyNewBeesly · 02/04/2018 20:21

My lovely, you’re in such a good position. Stable job, good relationship, you know you want children. That’s all great. He doesn’t want kid’s in the next five years and that gives you five whole years to

  • progress in your career
  • travel anywhere you’ve always wanted to go
  • save money
  • maybe buy a flat or house
  • maybe get married
  • do any more education that will help in your career
  • have fun!

Your comment earlier about a holiday was telling - believe me, going away when you have kids is not as simple as just taking a baby! My twins are 18 months old and my DH and I haven’t had one hour of time together alone. We took them away for a long weekend and it was the most stressful weekend of my life! But it’s okay because I’m 35, got my degree, had a great career, been on great holidays, done all the things I want to do. I’m glad I waited. I’m not saying you have to wait that long but giving yourself a time frame to focus on yourself and your partner is a good thing!

If anyone is hassling you, simply say “not yet”. You’re focusing on your career and your relationship. You’re making the most of having no responsibilities. You’re 21 - what I wouldn’t give to go back to being 21!

SLR1906 · 02/04/2018 20:21

@Tot0d1le666 i think you are really brave for admitting how you really feel. I was felt desperate to have a baby for over 2 years following a miscarriage while i was young and i found it so hard to face my feelings. Ignore people on here giving you jip about age etc, i think its totally uneccessary as long as you are in a good financial situation and loving relationship. Some people are happy to wait and some arent. I struggled with jealousy and people asking when we were having kids etc, only time made me feel any better and now im 3 months pregnant at 21, your time will come, have faith Biscuit

Samewitches · 02/04/2018 20:24

I think if you really know you want a baby and your OH wants one in 2-3 years you could just try to focus on being in a 'good place' for that baby then. If you'd like to be married it's better to do so before children come along (in terms of affording a wedding and getting time to get round to it, however small or large a wedding you'd want and also because you're better protected if your career stalls after taking time off for a baby if things don't work out). Getting that promotion first will be a bonus because you could save more before/ return to a higher paid job to help with the cost of childcare. It's not the case for everyone but DH and I wanted to be married before having children, we eloped and had a party when we got back and had quite a long honeymoon period after where we just wanted to go away, not abroad- I don't like going abroad either and we had a fur baby dog I wanted to take everywhere so just booked various cottages, the odd hotel overnight. We just went places together. Do you own your home? Do you want to? Could you have say 2 kids in your current home for a good few years? If not work on that, you won't want to move because you have to with either less money coming in if you decide to SAH or because you pay for childcare.
I don't think your age or attitude on here means you're not ready for a child right now but you obviously love your OH and need to wait until he's ready- my suggestions are just ideas on how to fill your time so you don't just feel like you're miserably sitting around waiting. Try to turn it into a positive!

kittensinmydinner1 · 02/04/2018 20:31

The thing is OP that despite your protestations to the contrary you do not seem all that 'mature' in your thinking.

You have said ;
We're financially stable, we have our own house etc. I want to have a break from work and have a child before my next big career step.

... and yet you 'want to have a baby before you marry ' - this sounds like an active choice as opposed to many who find themselves pregnant with partners who won't marry them.

Why on earth would you voluntarily put yourself as a massive disadvantage, by choosing to do things arse about tit ? If your partner wants to marry you why would choose to have all the legal and financial disadvantage of being unmarried to your child's father when there is an option to get married, then have children. ? That in itself is immature.
You want time off work to have a child. This leaves your income reduced or non existent- depending on how much time you have off and your maternity package. It still leaves you at a financial disadvantage to your partner.

If you are really serious about having a child young, you owe it to that child to put yourself in the best financial position possible. You can start THAT now by planning a marriage. And that can be as little as £215 at the local registry with parents and a handful of friends - or a full blown white wedding extravaganza.

Then ... as you both have good jobs, buy your own home and invest your money in your own home and not as rent to pay someone else's mortgage. This will cut your costs in the long term and make your finances truly more stable for a child and their future.
Once you've done this, you really will be in the best possible place to bring a child into the world and your partner will also be ready.

A child now will mean less income from you. High child care costs, still renting and little chance to be able to buy .

I am NOT saying that renting and not being married invalidates the choices made by those who have done this - but the difference for you is that you have CHOICES .. and you owe it to a child to make the best choice you can, not to just career headlong into a baby fantasy because that is what you want.
Being a mother means doing the best you possibly can for your child. Doing this now would be failing to do it.
Look at this time as your baby plan , it may even go some way to fulfill your current need and make you feel that you are taking positive appropriate steps to having a child.
Good preparation is the key to success in most things. Parenthood is no exception.

Aozora13 · 02/04/2018 20:34

OP this is probably not what you want to hear but it sounds to me that you’re not really ready for a baby yourself. I don’t say that because of your age, but it seems like not being able to get what you want has made you a little obsessive, to the point where your desire for a baby is getting in the way of your normal life and happiness.

At which point it’s not really about the reality of actually having a baby - which is great, but also really bloody hard work and deathly dull at times, and puts a strain on your relationship, career etc - but getting what you see others having and want for yourself.

My advice would be to shift your focus; cultivate your hobbies, career, friendships etc to dial down the baby-mania, and keep talking to your partner so once you have clearer perspective on the realities of starting a family, hopefully he’ll be on board too. Good luck.

Dozer · 02/04/2018 20:36

Biologically you probably have plenty of time. Your DP is not U to want to wait a good while.

Unless you plan to return to work FT after maternity leave, are by far the higher earner and/or have substantial financial assets it’d be financially sensible to marry before ttc.

FancyNewBeesly · 02/04/2018 20:47

Also, “a break from work” may not be the most accurate description- my career before kids was incredibly stressful and exhausting, and honestly it was like a holiday dreamland compared to looking after my twins! I now work 20 hours a month and those hours are absolute bliss of only adult conversation, coffee that’s still hot, train journeys by myself.... sigh. You’re only 21, if you progress in your career and then get pregnant that’s your company’s problem, they can’t demote you if you return on time and can afford full time childcare (or for your partner to stay at home).

Walkaboutwendy · 02/04/2018 20:56

There is nothing wrong with having a baby at 21. That's coming from a positively ancient mum who had her first at 38 Wink

What I will say though is think about the child beyond the baby stage. How will you cope financially with child care when you return to work? Do you know how much that costs? Do you have joint wills or life insurance policies in place in the event one of you dies? What if you and your partner split up (this must be at least considered). How would you cope financially given that universal credit is ever diminishing and he would only pay 15% of his wages to you. I know that's a bit gloomy but trust me if you have another mouth to feed you need to at least consider it.

I know these are boring practical things but most of us ancient mums waited because we wanted financial security before bringing a child into the work.

Personally if you've got a plan for all these eventualities I would say go for it.

What worries me though is there is an underlying panicky tone to your posts that you may not be aware of. If you want a baby with this man then you are going to have to compromise if you want a baby right now then that's a different matter.