Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Ana I rang back and told the receptionist to leave a message for the dr about how appalled epu staff were to hear that my gp wouldn't not treat me properly despite knòwing I have kidney problems and need to keep hydrated etc
And now I refuse to see him myself. I tell the staff what's the point of seeing a Dr that won't prescribe anything.

I'm high risk gd (can we find something I'm low risk for lol) as I'm fat, Pakistani, family members have diabetes and mum had gd and have baby elephants.

Morning all

Hope everyone is managing a bit better today 🤞

Well after a day of feeling more human I’m back to multiple puking episodes. Lying still really is the only thing that works! Think I overdid it on my visit to London and all the walking and rush hour travel has caught up with me. I’m afraid to say the Tv will probably be on for the majority of the day, my poor kids I just don’t have any energy at all. Mum guilt is horrible. I’ve got my booking in appt this afternoon so will find out what ketones are like and let the midwife know how crap I’m feeling. If it’s the same one as with my son she was pretty good and sympathetic. Think it will be a trip back to the Gp to try different meds soon x

Also...does anyone else have issues with family/friends telling them...’get outside in the fresh air...it will make you feel much better!’ 😡🤬👊 if only!

I am seriously thinking about becoming a mentor to others who are going through hg, purely because if you haven't been through it then you have no idea. At the moment, I'm feeling better but now all I'm thinking about is how the last few weeks have been absolute hell. Dh is amazing but apart from that, I've had not much support from family and friends. My mum has been good but she doesn't understand, someone to talk to who been there would of been amazing. I'm a member of a hg group on fb that we're looking for mentors and once I'm feeling a bit better I think I'm going to offer my support.

Being told 'get out in the fresh air' 'try some ginger' 'ooo I know how you feel, I had morning sickness' is not advice and helps absolutely no one suffering.

My friend messaged me yesterday to see how I was, she only ever had nausea in her pregnancies and honestly sailed through them but still makes out that was hell on earth. I wrote back to her explaining exactly what me and dh had been through the last couple of weeks, hospital admissions, Iv fluids, the fact that after 10 pints of fluids my keytones were actually worse than when I first got admitted and how worried the doctors were, infections, bleeding, scans....the lot

Her reply : 'aww yeah I remember what it's like, it's so hard'

sleepy my mother-in-law, may she live and be well, is constantly telling me that, it's enough to drive anyone mad! the only tactic that works with her is to smile and say 'maybe you're right' even though she is totally wrong! and change the subject. Like bitzy said, if you have no personal experience with HG, you cannot hope to understand it. And people have the best intentions, just it's so exasperating.

bitzy I think it is a great idea for you to be a mentor. I'm sure you 'd make a brilliant one. And please, please, do mentoring on here! Really, this thread needs people who have suffered more recently than Mother Hen to advise. I think Pregnancy Sickness Support and Caitlin Dean will tell you how to become one; they're always needed.
Your friend sounds self centred, full stop, I'm sorry to say, wholly lacking in empathy. I am sorry you have had such an awful time of late. Things must get better.
Baubles I am sure you are 'Well covered, with ample feminine charms' rather than fat - though I had to laugh at your 'baby elephants' description. Well, excuse my ignorance, but doesn't one of the Hindu goddesses take elephant form? Not as if I am assuming that you follow that religion.

On acupuncture - ahem - I have to say that it worked for me, though I had no faith in it. However, it has only helped others on this thread a bit, nothing like as much. It was years ago I suffered, when attitudes were barbaric. The doctor refused meds, and after a few days in bed getting dehydrated I phoned up an Acupunturist in despair. He saw me as an emergency, saying I would have to go to A and E . I had got to the point of not being able to take things in, and didn't realise why he was making such a fuss (OH was away). I never thought it would help but after that I was able to retain fluids, and after a couple more sessions it went save for manageable nausea and the awful heartburn, which still made me vomit on and off. As you know, I was one of the unlucky tiny minority it came back after birth, though. However, that is unusual and he was very skilled and I hear that it is nothing like as good if it is out by the most immeasurable distance. That Acupuncturist retired, and others I saw later about my migraines never helped more than a little. I hope it helps, anyway; nothing to lose.
SleepyBadger Oh dear, about relapse. I think you certainly overdid it. I am glad you are at home now. Do you work part time? Any chance of a sick note? Don't torture yourself with guilt; they are very resilient.
I spoke too soon. The PC has to go in today. So 'tomorrow and tomorrow, and tomorrow' - sorry, it's driving me a little mad - I must go to the library to use the pc again (they'll throw me out!) if it isn't discharged today. I know I am being a nuisance. Thank goodness you are all so lovely and for Mustang Natsku Anitidae justtheone Shehz bitzy and in fact, all of you helping each other.

Sorry, the part of that tedious anecdote after '...A and E' which was truncated by the PC was - 'if the vomiting didn't stop that afternoon'.
Endorra . Very provoking. I like your 'may she live and be well'! People don't seem to like to encounter real suffering that can't necessarily be put right easily.

Hello everyone. I was on here before under heavenscent86 if anyone remembers me. I’m just over 6 weeks pregnant again and feeling pretty rough. I’m not sure if I’m ill enough to be on here though. I have really debilitating nausea. It’s making me feel so poorly I can barely get out of bed or move around. I haven’t been sick much but I’m really struggling to drink much. I’m so exhausted I could literally sleep all day and all night I think. I’m so hoping it’s not the start of hyperemesis again for me but it certainly doesn’t feel good. Anyway if it is I’ll be making good use of this forum as it was a great help for me last time when I was so poorly.

Being a mentor is a great idea bitzy

Bitzy my mum was like that 🤔
She never suffered like this (I lived with her throughout her last pregnancy 6yrs ago) and now she keeps saying oh I remember that Its not nice etc

Lucinda I think I've heard something about elephants in Hinduism, I'm Muslim so don't know much myself about the link.
Looking back at the newborn photos of youngest on the scales he looks like a 3month old baby lol

Hotchoc sorry to hear you are suffering again. If you read Lucinda posts she's kindly posted lots of info.

Hope the pc gets fixed soon! My own pc is turned on once a blue moon.

hotchocolate really hope this isn't the start of another HG pregnancy for you. Unfortunately having had it in a previous pregnancy makes you more likely to get it again (though not always!). Given that, and how awful the nausea is, I think it would be a really good idea to get to the Dr ASAP to discuss meds - the earlier you get them in the better, rather than waiting for really severe symptoms and then trying to treat.

Ganesha is the Hindu elephant God (I know this because my year 8 RE teacher was a drunkard and just had us draw pictures of Hindu deities in our lessons while he told us about aliens abducting him and ghosts that sit on the end of his bed)

Thank you for the replies. I’ve just had a look through Lucindas posts and I’m going to try cup a soup and chocolate milk. Both sound like things I might manage to get down. I can manage an occasional hot chocolate and tiny sips of freezing cold water. I’m hoping I will be able to speak to my doctor as I definitely think I need to be getting some meds inside me if I can.

hotchocolate sorry sickness has got you again, I hope it doesn't get worse for you - I think lots of us on here have had different levels of nausea and vomiting so do stay on here for support if you're feeling horrible even if it's not as bad as last time.

Nausea has hit me like a train again after Monday night's hospital events and being up until 4am. Always still amazes me how much tiredness affects it and I think I have a uti which always makes it worse too. Protein in urine at checks again this morning so might have to go back in to assessment unit later, hoping I can avoid an induction but it's looking more likely.

Completely agree with all saying that friends and family just don't get it. People generally seem incapable of empathising or understanding with this condition. I'm sure if it weren't pregnancy related attitudes would be totally different. How 'getting out in the fresh air' is going to help when just turning your head or rolling over in bed makes you vomit is totally beyond me .

Nat lol R.E was one of my fav subjects but I think it may have easily been my fav subject with that guy as my teacher. How are things going with you and bub?

Emu sorry to hear about tiredness and uti both increase nausea tenfold, your due date is soon though isn't it?

Bitzy that's a fabulous idea.

Sorry to see all the new faces suffering it's bloody awful. On the unsupportive family members and friends it's more than common it seems to be a given. I don't think Iv seen anyone in here since I came around that have had support they should have from either all their health professionals or loved ones it's very sad. If you had 9mths of norovirus type symptoms for anything else other than pregnancy people would be falling over themselves with concern I think. Too many have a suck it up attitude or worse think they know what you are going through having never either been pregnant or even sick during their pregnancies. I will continue to be forever grateful to Lucinda for keeping this thread going it proved a wonderful reprieve from the really dark times when I felt like nobody cared or understood.

Argh I can relate to all the indignation about the lack of empathy re hg on here.
I have had a hard time with my MIL myself but DH and DM have been absolutely fantastic, bless them. They actually researched a lot about hyperemesis and saved couple of articles to get me to read and cheer me up about how there is an end to all this.
I say it again and again, those of you with DC to look after while suffering with hg, you are warriors!
And do not let the guilt get to you about the children having extra tv/laptop/tablet time. I have read so many experiences from other mummies on here and they all point to how resilient kids really are. Just please take care of yourselves and that little life inside of you.

Had my GTT test this morning and survived it. So a little hurray for me. But feeling really low on energy till now...

Baubles Got a consultant appointment on the 21st and he will decide about the next scan. Hopefully soon enough!
I am truly angry on your behalf though at that bloody GP

Bitzy It would be such a lovely thing to do to offer your support as a mentor once you do feel up to it.
I think a lot of us can relate to having "friends" like these..unfortunately.

hotchocolate I have my fingers and toes crossed for you that it is not the start of another HG pregnancy but please do not worry about being on here because you feel less ill than last time.
I believe that you don't necessarily have to be at the extreme end of the pregnancy sickness spectrum for it to be termed HG. The debilitating nausea is sometimes ten fold worse to deal with.
Hope you get yourself an appointment with your GP asap and get some meds sorted out.

Emu31 Aww dear you are so close. If induction is the safest route to go for you and baby, then I think definitely go for it. Hoping that Baby Emu decides to make an appearance on his/her own soon though! Are you still taking anti emetics to deal with the nausea? What about the UTI? Do they have you on antibiotics for that?
So sorry it's all such a shitstorm right before you can enjoy that Pink Castle. for you.

Mustang So lovely to hear from you! Hope you and the 2 Minis are doing well.

Lucinda Always a pleasure
This thread really helped keep my sanity to say the least. Hope that PC gets repaired soon!

Hugs to everyone who is suffering and hoping you all turn a corner soon.
Especially to the new comers, I am a FTM to be and remember how horrible it was when I just joined this thread at the beginning. It was a dark time for me and I struggled with my mental heath quite a bit but I received an amazing level of support on here as well as great advice always. I know how lonely and helpless you all must be feeling at times but remember there is an end to it and in the meantime we are here for you all. To whichever extent possible!

Nat lol R.E was one of my fav subjects but I think it may have easily been my fav subject with that guy as my teacher. How are things going with you and bub?

He was a fun teacher, was gutted when he got sacked. Things are going ok, he's not sleeping so great and likes to breastfeed for two hours at a time with tiny power naps inbetween which is pretty tiring but at least he has a good latch so my nipples aren't suffering too much.
Had the local newspaper round today to do a follow-up story on my brother and baby too - his first press appearance and he's not even two weeks old

Hope you don't have to be induced Emu but so long as baby comes out safe and sound and you manage ok that's the important thing.

Thanks everyone, yes you are right it is not long to dd and sure induction will be ok if that's what's needed to make sure we are both safe and well. At least the pink castle is firmly in sight, they haven't called me back in this eve so that is positive and I get to spend the night at home in my own bed. Glad the feeding is going well nat though it sounds exhausting. Well done for surviving GTT test shehz.

My doctor has done me a prescription for something called promethazine (I think). I suspect i tried it before and it didn’t work but maybe it will help this time. Has anyone had success with it?

No luck with promethazine or cyclizine here, unfortunately. Fingers crossed it works for you.

So, not ideal at all but hoping it's ok to join you all. I'm 8 weeks with my 2nd baby and 2nd HG pregnancy so far, found absolutely nothing that helps and my throat is so sore and burning. Fed up of everyone trying to tell me how to cope with morning sickness and feel I need somewhere I can talk to others who actually understand.

Really struggling with mum guilt because I'm having to call in a lot of favours to help look after my 17 month old DS. Find myself I'm tears often because of it

Promethazine didn’t work for me unfortunately. None of the antiemetic drugs have. Ondansetron gives about an hour of relief then I feel worse afterwards so it’s not really worth it.

Give it a try though - it does work for a lot of people.

Oh dear. I hope it works. @Anatidae It’s a real shame ondansetron doesn’t work for you. I was on it last time and it was amazing. It’s so frustrating that I can’t just go straight back on it. I hope you manage to find some relief somehow.

Hi
I didn't have it last time but did have 'morning sickness' for the entire pregnancy.

I took Promethazine and found it helped to an extent. I had yo take it the whole way through
Thankfully despite vomming often I could eat again afterwards sometimes

I'm 7 weeks today and trying to decide how bad I let it get before starting meds...

foody

Don’t wait. Plenty of evidence to show that starting treatment soon reduces severity of symptoms.