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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 06/02/2018 14:30

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

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nailsathome · 13/03/2018 08:25

Blimey foody that's a big queue already! I hope it doesn't take too long.

Foodylicious · 13/03/2018 09:20

Seen the nurse, she has just gone off to chat to the doctor now

Anatidae · 13/03/2018 09:44

I had an early scan because they were worried it was twins or there was another issue to make the hormone levels high.
After that and the drip I got the ondansetron

LucindaE · 13/03/2018 14:38

Han I so agree with others, the doctor is being super careful, as anti emetics have been used safely for women with Hyperemesis for decades. There was a tragedy with a drug called Thamedolide being given to pregnant woman and damaging unborn babies fifty years ago - it couldn't happen now; the rules on testing are too strict. it might be worth phoning the Pregnancy Sickness Support people on 024 7638 2020 for reassurance. They'll ring back with good advice.
Foodyliciuos Sorry your asthma is bad. That is great news about the meds and the sickness, though - particularly as round week ten can be the worst for so many! Glad the meds are helping.
Anitidae I believe they do give early scans to see if twins are at the root of the problem - as sometimes, as in nails case, they are!
Bored Good advice, as ever. How are things?
Natsku Ha Ha.
Yule The isolation is dismal. A lot of people rely on Netflix. I have only ever seen my daughter's, but the massive selection of films seems to be impressive.
I hope everyone is sort of jogging along - or waddling along - today.
We haven't heard from a couple of people in a while. I hope they are OK.

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Elephantgrey · 13/03/2018 21:35

I found out today that my referral for pregnancy physiotherapy got lost. My GP has sent it again but I have gone to the back of the queue even though I have been waiting 2 months. I burst into hysterical tears and had to go and hide in the work toilet.

I do wonder why it is hard to get any concerns taken seriously. I can't get anyone to listen to my worries about how my joint problems will add labour. There is nothing in my notes about the fact that I have poor wound healing either. I am starting to feel a bit panicked about it.

The only person who has really listened to me is the doctor from the perinatal mental health service. She has given me a prescription for Sertraline. I don't want to take it partly because I think my level of anxiety would go down massively if my other health problems were taken seriously and partly because one of the side effects of the drug is nausea and vomiting!

Sorry that this is a very miserable post.

nailsathome · 14/03/2018 06:49

Sorry you're having a tough time elephant. I know what you mean about not being taken seriously. Is the nausea a common side effect of sertraline or one of the rarer ones? Are you on anti-emetics because they would help with that anyway. Anxiety is so crippling in itself without the other worries.

hotchocolate86 · 14/03/2018 07:09

I’m sorry to hear you are struggling elephant. It’s a shame they couldn’t bump you up the queue for physio. I hope it doesn’t take too long for your appointment to come through.

I’m really confused this morning. I’ve got up feeling absolutely fine. I know I could feel awful again later but I didn’t realise hyperemesis could do this and now I’m scared something is wrong.

Anatidae · 14/03/2018 07:15

If it makes you feel any better elephant I have tried sertraline and did not experience any nausea at all - it is a listed side effect but everything anyone experienced ever has to be listed (whichbis why the list is very long and scary looking!)
If you are unlucky enough to experience nausea and you stop taking them it’ll go quickly.
Very sorry about the physio. FWIW, I found the pregnancy physio useless - what helped me was seeing an osteopath who specialises in women’s health and pregnancy. She fixed my pelvis with literally one move. Two sessions in all, and well worth the money! The pelvic partnership website has a list of practitioners across the UK.
Assuming you have a serola belt? If not, they help a bit too and amazon do quick delivery xx

Anatidae · 14/03/2018 07:18

I’m feeling awful today. The vomiting is pushing acid and bile and god knows what else up the back of my nose and I have some sort of infection or something there (not helped by the fact my toddler has given me every virus he’s had since I conceived.)
Spent the evening on the sofa shivering with a fever, under a blanket or two :( this poor baby - endless viral insults and every drug under the sun :(

Hope everyone is OK.

Boredoftryingusernames · 14/03/2018 07:28

Elephant that is so frustrating about the physio. It does seem you have to strike it lucky with the right person to be taken seriously about anything. I hope the appointment comes through soon. Maybe speak to a pharmacist about the vomiting side effect of sertraline to see how likely it is, I was petrified when I saw lactulose has nausea and vomiting as a potential side effect, but had no choice but to use it in the end! I totally understand not wanting to take the drug though if you feel there are other ways to alleviate your anxiety (like being listened too!!!!). Could you speak to the helpful mental health doctor again and see if they can liaise with other health care professionals for you?

Hotchocolate it's all such a worry isn't it, terrible when you feel awful, worrying when you feel a bit better. I haven't had any times yet I have felt absolutely normal, but some short periods with much less nausea. Hopefully it is the start of a turning point for you. I guess I would see how the morning goes, hopefully someone else will be along with reassurance/advice soon. I suppose you could call GP or the midwives at the hospital if you want to get more reassurance, or the people at Pregnancy Sickness Support?

Boredoftryingusernames · 14/03/2018 07:34

Anatidae sorry you feel so terrible, as if you need more on top of the HG.

I'm typing this whilst avoiding moving out of bed as feel like that will provoke a vomit...luckily my toddler is still asleep. Lucinda thanks for asking, I am very up and down at the moment, bit better yesterday, not great the day before. Managed a few bits of food that aren't beige!! Toddler still trying to force feed me broccoli....

isthismummy · 14/03/2018 09:36

Hi everyone, sorry to read everyone is still struggling awaySad

I have a question regarding insomnia and HG. Does anyone have both and if so are there any sleeping medications the gp will give you? I'm losing my mind through lack of sleep and already vomited four times today despite my anti nausea meds.

I was that desperate I took my DH's over the counter sleeping pills for a few nights. They helped so much, but my pharmacist told me yesterday that they can't recommend them. Their amazing advice was camomile tea and hot bathsHmm

Why does nobody want to give pregnant women drugs? Unless there's firm evidence my babies will be born with two heads I'll take anything at this point. I'm desperate ffs!!

isthismummy · 14/03/2018 09:37

Oh and DH may have uttered the phrase "pregnancy isn't an illness" to me yesterday. Perhaps he would like to swap?Angry

LucindaE · 14/03/2018 10:30

Oh dear, suffering all round. Much sympathy to all feeling bad today, and
poor hotchocloate for concern over a lack of symptoms - you can't win with this. Quite a lot of women on here have been really panicked by a first good day - and so couldn't enjoy it, but were back to the good old nausea and vomting the next day, so try not to be too anxious. As others, say, it could be the sign of a turnaround.
isthisMummy He said what????? Indeed, pregnancy for the lucky majority is not an illness. For those with Hyperemesis it is! It was very civilized of you not to lean over, and either vomit on his toes, or threaten to. I am of the opinion that men would not be able to handle this for more than two days at most. Not only that,but if it were a male illness, it would be treated far more symapthetically and effectively. Rant over.
Anitidae Really sorry about those horrible symptoms. I am sure baby will be fine, despite the medication and the viruses, but it is anxiety making when one keeps getting ill. I remember having a fever and being anxious about it. I think Pharacetemol is meant to be fine, and I believe it is thought safer than running a really high fever for too long,but I have often noted that one shivers with quite a low one, so it is a balancing act. It's awful the way one keeps getting viruses from toddlers,andone of the less advertised facts of parenthood.
Elephantgrey Oh dear, that is awful. That does seem to be happening a lot in the NHS recently, but it's no comfort for you. I wonder ifyou speak tothe consultant's secretary, expressing your fears, you might not get your appointment hurried along and some advice about the slow healing. Am I correct in thinking that spd can sometimes make birth easier? Sorry if I've got that wrong; trying to think of some sort of silver lining.
Bored That toddler is a great follower of the 'eat your greens' school.
Waves to nails and I hope everyone is coping...Watch me cross post.

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hotchocolate86 · 14/03/2018 10:32

Oh ana I’m sorry to hear you are feeling so poorly. How awful to have a virus on top of everything else. I hope you can manage to get some rest.

bored how are you feeling now you’re up and about?

My nausea has crept back in. Not severe but it’s still there. I’m thinking maybe it’s just a better day or even just a better morning. Whatever it is I am grateful for it as long as baby’s ok as I have even managed to do a little tidying.

isthismummy I’m sorry to hear you are struggling. I’m afraid I don’t have any advice on the insomnia side of things but hopefully someone will come along with some good advice soon.

Pregnancy definitely seems to be an illness for some people. I’d like to swap with anyone who says that so they can experience how I feel most days and see if they still say the same.

Anatidae · 14/03/2018 12:12

isthis i doubtvthey will give you anything unfortunately. Is there something specific that’s keeping you up? Sleeping tablets are not something you want to be taking longer term and almostvall have a strong rebound effect.

Things that have helped me:

A decent pregnancy pillow to properly support you (I have a bbhug me which was horribly expensive but I love it..)
Epsom salt baths to help with the twitchy legs. I also find running quite hot water on them in the shower for a minute helps (don’t burn yourself!)
No screens in the evening and put screens on the night mode after tea time.

But even with that I’m awake half the night. I’ve never been a good sleeper and ds1 slept no more than an hour at a time for 18m so I think my expectations have been reset somewhat :(

Natsku · 14/03/2018 12:27

isthismummy I had pretty bad insomnia during pregnancy (and before, was on atarax to sleep before but stopped as soon as I found out I was pregnant) and the OB told me that if my insomnia was very bad then it would be ok to go back on the Atarax (or a different sleeping med) because sleep is important too. I didn't need to though because my sickness meds helped me sleep anyway but it seems they don't prescribe them in the UK, they can prescribe them from what I heard but it's quite costly because they have to be imported.

isthismummy · 14/03/2018 12:42

Anitidae I wasn't a great sleeper anyway. A few years of infertility stress saw to that and now I'm pregnant it's so much worse. I just lie there totally tense and can't sleep. I've tried hot milk/no screens/warm showers. Nothing works (except my DH over counter sleep remedy which is apparently merrily prescribed in US but not hehe)

I can't function, can't work and I'm on zero hours so no pay if I don't work.

Natsku How bad did your insomnia get? I'm getting about two hours a night and can't nap during the day.

I will try a pregnancy pillow, but I feel a bit of a fraud. I'm not remotely showing yet and I'm 12 weeks tomorrow!

Thank you for your help. It's much appreciatedSmile

isthismummy · 14/03/2018 12:43

Not here, not hehe. It's definitely no laughing matter.

Natsku · 14/03/2018 12:50

I tended to get 3-4 hours on the worst nights. Pregnancy pillow def helps, I've slept with one for years as it's just more comfortable and I like to hug something when I sleep. On the bright side, I feel much more rested now baby is here despite being woken up lots in the night so you can always look forward to that!

Oh and everyone - Mr. Justice has a name! I just filled out the form so I can't change my mind any more. Not telling anyone in real life until his naming party at the end of the month but I can tell you lot Grin It's going to be Konstantin Justus, called Konsta for short.

Smartie368 · 14/03/2018 12:59

Hi everyone, just wondering if anyone has any information for people wondering if it’s all in my head or if other people just cope with it better. Why do you get so sick when other people just get on with it etc etc...

polkadotpixie · 14/03/2018 13:16

@isthismummy, if you're not already on it then I'd recommend Promethazine. I was obviously given it for sickness but literally couldn't stay awake! The sedative effect has worn off now and I take it 3 times a day but to begin with it made me really sleepy

isthismummy · 14/03/2018 14:51

I'm taking that Polka it has zero sedative effect on me. I'm a medical mystery. I wish it did work. I'd be thrilled.

Just been sick for the eighth time today. Pregnancy is greatConfused

isthismummy · 14/03/2018 14:54

Smartie that's a good question. I've been wondering if I'm just softer than everyone else. Then I speak to women in RL and none of them have spent as much time vomiting in their pregnancies as I have.

Sometimes you just can't get on with it. I worked two days in a row and my reward today is throwing up multiple times. It's really shit and people who haven't been there just don't understand.

Anatidae · 14/03/2018 15:05

Ararax is an antihistamine so have you tried the safe sedating antihistamines?

Promethazine did nothing for me either :( neither sickness nor wakefulness was helped by it!

Definitely try a pregnancy pillow - never too early for that :)

Unfortunately insomnia is just one of those things - I’m prone to it anyway and just being uncomfortable nauseous and now I’ll isn’t helping. It does suck. I often joke it’s natures way of preparing you for the sleep deprivation of a baby - although frankly absolutely nothing could have prepared me for that, it was brutal.

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