Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Congratulations just you utter star! You did it! Hope you’re relaxing and gazing at your beautiful new daughter.

justtheonethen Aww just your update made me tear up!! I am so happy for you! She is absolutely gorgeous! Massive congrats to you and hubby!
The beautiful fruit of all your patience through the IVF and HG journey. Big big hugs to you

Lucinda Woop woop I cannot believe I am at the top of the list. Unfortunately for me these last few weeks are just unbearable and but I decided to take Phenergan again today and finally feeling a bit human again. I really need to speak to the consultant tomorrow so they put me on something safe in pregnancy towards the end.

Waves to everyone

Thank you all

And lucinda thank you for being concerned. I’m actually quite emotional about how lovely everyone is on this thread. It’s such a source of support

Bloody hormones 😁

Anitidae You may rely on Mother Hen to fuss! You are right, everyone on here supports each other wonderfully.

Thank you. Honestly it does help.

Right, well I saw the doc today. She was lovely, asked a million questions. Wasn’t too concerned about the bloody vomit. I’m now quite badly anaemic so I’ve been given iron tablets. Took one today and it did make me feel quite horrid, so if anyone has a lead on some iron containing solution or pill which is more gentle on the stomach please do let me know!

It was brutally cold today. -15 after the sun had come up. -24 with the windchill. Felt so much colder than it normally does - we had -30 last year but still air - the wind is what really hurts! 50cm snow yesterday and then more overnight. When I drove ds to nursery I saw the road workers had lit massive fires under sheets of corrugated iron to thaw out the road so they could dig trenches for the cables and pipes. This is the weather system that is probably hitting you all tonight or tomorrow- wrap up warm, it’s a bad one!

Have been signed off for the whole of March. I feel guilty but I’m relieved. Under strict orders to rest. Hopefully the dizziness and palpitations will go of my iron levels get up a bit.

Congrats orangecloud.

Congrats Just, Violet is absolutely beautiful and I'm loving her matching blanket😍.

I hope they take you seriously soon hotchocolate as that seems quite a high reading to me

Holy shit Anatidae but that sounds crazy!!! We have about 2 inches and it's all ground to a halt lol.

Glad your dr was thorough. Can't help
On the iron front mines was pretty high throughout. My midwife was impressed.

Mine was too in my first pregnancy (it was slightly above limits actually, never found out why, possibly a recent illness? I drink a couple of times a year max so I couldn’t see why it was high...)

I hadn’t even considered anaemia due to that but yes, it explains why the stairs feel like K2 just now! Hopefully the tablets will sort it.

Tomorrow DH is on nursery run duty so I will go back to bed for the rest of the day and rest! It really floored me today just getting into the city and back in the cold and the snow.

hotchocolate I hope they are at last sitting up and taking notice.
Anitidae I used to vomit within fifteen minutes of taking iron pills, even when a lot better. You can get the drop form, I believe. Not quite sure where you are - somewhere with severe winters, that is clear! I'm startled that they seem so unperturbed about that vomit with old blood in it.
Waves to Mustang. Lovely news indeed about justtheone.

I’m in Sweden :)

She asked a LOT of questions about it. Volume, proportion, Colour of vomit either side etc. She said as a one off with a nose bleed that night it was more likely to be that. If it happens again I’m to go to hospital sharpish.

I’ll look for a liquid form. I feel pretty grim.

Congratulations just!! I've not been on mumsnet in ages but thought I'd have a url today. Good timing I guess!

waves to everyone I know. Sorry to newcomers who've had to arrive. It's a good support group here. You're in safe hands.

Well crap that last message was me. I didn't change my name back successfully. Oh well.

Lucinda in case you're wondering, I'm doing alright but need to work up the courage to speak to the health visitor or Dr about possible PND. C is doing fine. Weogt gain is not a problem at all as you can see from the photo. I just need to talk to people I feel incredibly lonely

C looks so lovely and happy! Hope you work up the courage soon to talk to someone about pnd dead

Bloody cold right now isn't it anatidae? was -20 yesterday here (-30 with wind chill) and supposed to be even colder today so I can't take baby outside which is driving me crazy!

dead please do talk to someone! And we are all here too. Pnd is a bitch, and more common than you’d think - take care of yourself. What a cutie C is :)

Ana I’m glad you are signed off for a while longer. Hope you start to feel better soon.

Dead please do speak to someone about the way you feel. PND is horrible. Your baby looks so happy.

After a couple of slightly better days even with the 2+ ketones I’m feeling really grotty today. Threw up everything last night including fluids and everything this morning so far apart from my most recent bit of fluid. That doesn’t feel great though either so I’m not sure if it will stay down and I darent try to eat anything more yet.

Congrats to just

Anatidae I couldn't stomach the iron pills at all, you might try to find a liquid drink.

hotchoc that is so terrible, I hope you get the treatment you need and deserve!

Have to echo Lucinda and Dead, this place is so supportive!

So I've not vomited in 5 days - aside for bile when my stomach was empty, but that doesn't count, right? I'm finally able to eat again, but it's not enjoyable because of the GD. Still very nauseous, especially after eating, but I am so grateful that I'm not as sick as I was even just a week ago. I saw my GP yesterday and going to the dietician today.

The only thing is I am so so weak. I'm not sure if it's from the HG, losing so much weight, muscle atrophy from literally not being able to leave my bed for 8 weeks, or if it might be fatigue from the GD. Twice this week I fell asleep before my husband got home for dinner and slept the whole night till 5am.

I'm grateful that I am feeling better, but I wish better was all-the-way-better, not a tiny baby step better. END OF RANT.

Those of you who are in your 2nd/3rd (or more) HG pregnancy how did you make the final decision to ttc and what measures have you put in place to make it more bearable and easier for you and your partner and children? I'm terrified of the HG horror

Endora 5 days of no vomiting is great. I’m so glad you’re feeling a bit better. How many weeks are you now? I can relate to the weakness and fatigue. Yesterday I had my booking appointment and even though we went in the car and I was sat down there I was so exhausted I slept for an hour and half when we got back.

I agree that this thread is really supportive. It’s great when you are struggling to know that other people understand and can relate to how you are feeling.

I am holding out going to the hospital just for now but I suspect I will be back in tomorrow unless things improve. I hope they will give me fluids and iv meds then.

@totallyrasamus I got my weight up beforehand as I knew I was likely to get HG again, took vitamins for a few months prior to conceiving and generally tried to improve my diet etc. Also I recognised the symptoms this time and rather than waiting got myself to the hospital for treatment as soon as it got bad. My GP can’t prescribe anything strong enough to work. I was taking promethazine to begin with but it didn’t work at all so I went to A&E. I’m not sure if this is any help to you though.

hotchoc thanks, I'm 16 weeks along.

totally I am a very big planner, I take comfort in planning all sorts of things in advance, it gives me a measure of control. So when it came to thinking about TTC for #3, I really took my planning to a whole different level. I took B-vitamins for 3 months before TTC and also gained weight beforehand. I did an exercise class 6 months prior to TTC to strengthen my stomach and core muscles, because most women would be doing that in their 2nd/3rd trimesters and I never can because I'm feeling too ill, so I figured I'd do it before pregnancy. I mainly made sure my DH was 110% on board, because no way was I doing this alone, and I also stocked my freezer with my kids' favorites like homemade pancakes and chicken soup and hot dogs, foods that were easy to reheat, because I knew I wouldn't be able to be anywhere near food, but this way someone else could step in and make them meals that they like, and they wouldn't be subsiding on fast food every day for the duration of extreme HG. I also found a cleaner to help with keeping the house clean and a bunch of young teenagers who were interested in babysitting or being a mother's helper to take care of my kids for very low cost. I also prepared myself mentally for about a year, because one does not simply walk into an HG pregnancy. This was definitely my most relaxed pregnancy. I also researched new drugs on the market to see what might be available that wasn't in the past. I spoke to my GP about the meds and also about her philosophy of HG and treatment - which was helpful to know in advance. I think that's it...

Okay ladies I desperately need help. Sat at the hospital after my consultant appointment crying for the past hour.
I was completely fobbed off by a know-it-all bi*ch consultant and feel really helpless right now.
Baby was estimated 3kg at 34+5 and when I saw a consultant last week I was booked for a scan for today with a consultant appointment right after.
The last consultant mentioned that baby was already quite big and if she gets bigger than 3.3-3.5kg at today's scan then i would most likely be offered an induction at between 38-39 weeks.
So today baby was 3.7kg!!according to scan and I do know these scans can be off by 20% but I do feel like I am indeed carrying a big baby.
The consultant today though said that the baby seems fine,even though senior midwife mentioned how off the chart the growth is, and that I could come at 40 weeks to check if my cervix is favourable. She kept saying that babies are not considered full term until 39 weeks and all babies that are born before 39 weeks have lung problems and go to NICU.
WTAF?
I have asked for a second opinion and have an appointment next Wednesday to see another consultant.
Can anyone guide me/advise me as to how to get the next consultant to atleast listen to me???
I am sorry if my post seems a bit crazy right now, I am in all my states

That is crazy Shehz 38 weeks is full term these days (I think the UK even considers 37 weeks full term now, though it's 38 weeks here in Finland) and no way that all babies born before 39 weeks have lung problems and go to NICU! Glad you've asked for a second opinion, maybe if they have the same opinion as the first one ask them what evidence they are basing that on.

And anatidae if you can't keep down the iron pills or they cause too much stomach problems ask about getting infusions instead.

shehz absolutely untrue info!

A proportion of babies born early need breathing support. 38 weeks is considered term. My son was born at 38.1 and I can assure you he was perfect, very miffed at being removed from his comfy womb by c section and had absolutely zero breathing problems. I know at 39 weeks the proportion who need a bit of help is about 3% of c section babies and 2% of VB babies. At 37 weeks it’s just under 10% so I assume 38 weeks is between those figures - and those figures will be skewed upwards by babies that are born earlier due to other issues.

She is talking rot. And patronising you which is terrible, terrible clinical practice.

See the second consultant. Take a notebook.

Ask the following/state the following h.

Previous consultant told me that all babies born at x weeks need NICU support. Now I don’t think that’s correct, it’s a few percent. I felt she was giving me incorrect information to sway my choice and dismissing my worries. Mybworries are

The baby is measuring big. I’m aware that there is a margin or error, however we have a family history of big babies.

I am concerned that the baby will be large enough to cause issues with the birth resulting in serious issues to me or the baby. I’m aware size alone is not an indicator of how easy a birth is however I feel my worries were dismissed

I would like to talk about the possibility of induction at x weeks or elcs.

(If denied, palmed off etc ask them to state their position then and there in writing. If told all babies need breathing support ask for a source for their evidence.)

Be firm, be polite, be calm and do not back down. Take support if you need it. The NICE and rcog guidelines if you can google them will be worth a read. Highlight any relevant bits and take them in too.

Really hope you get a better one next time