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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 06/02/2018 14:30

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

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justtheonethen · 28/02/2018 13:42

Shehz nothing useful to add- Ana has given you great advice. Massive hugs though. It’s awful feeling fobbed off- I was when V wasn’t growing, I asked for a second opinion and the second opinion agreed with me and induced me.
She was born at 37+5 so absolute rubbish that all babies need special care.
Gather your evidence, get your warrior spirit back and go and demand some answers.

Anatidae · 28/02/2018 15:29

In fact, all the surgical team remarked on how strong he was ;) he could hold his head up at birth and was remarkably strong for being quite small.

As the person who had to listen to him howl for the next however many years I can attest that his lungs were in fine fettle.

It’s a knock when you get a doc who is dismissive - I reckon a lot of us have had that with the HG. Go get that second opinion!

Shehz21 · 28/02/2018 16:50

Ohh Ana Thank you so much for always giving such great advice!! I am a big hot mess tearing up at the support I am getting from you and JusttheonethenAnd Natsku. Thank you ladies for giving me the self confidence to go fight my case next week!

justtheonethen Again lovely news about baby Violet!
Big hugs to you both!
Nat Hope you and the babas are doing fineFlowers

Deaddoor Aww such a beautiful picture of C!
Yes please do seek professional help if you believe that's what you need. You dnt deserve to go through any more emotional/psychological pain after that awful HG journey.
I have my fingers crossed that you get the help you need in whichever form you need soon enough!

hotchocolate86 · 28/02/2018 17:14

Hi shehz I’m afraid I don’t have any words of advice for you but I just wanted to wish you luck. I’m glad you asked for a second opinion. I’m sure you will do a good job putting your case forward.

I’m having a really low day today. I don’t really know what I was thinking signing myself up for this again. I think I was just hoping I wouldn’t have the hyperemesis again. I haven’t actually been sick since this morning so I have kept down some food and fluids but I feel horribly nauseous and if I’m not being sick there’s no chance of fluids or iv meds to pick me up a bit. I feel absolutely exhausted, I can’t do a thing round the house and my little boy is bored. I miss being able to do things with him and my daughter so much. I’m sorry to be such a downer. I’m just really really struggling today and I don’t know how I will cope if I’ve got weeks ahead of me of this endless nausea, exhaustion and vomiting.

hotchocolate86 · 28/02/2018 17:23

My ketones are a quite dark 2+ today.

bitzy12 · 28/02/2018 17:34

How many weeks are you now @hotchocolate86 ?

hotchocolate86 · 28/02/2018 17:40

Hi @bitzy12 I’m just over 8 weeks. Ive probably only been really feeling ill since 6 weeks but it’s been pretty nasty and worse than my last pregnancy in some ways.

Anatidae · 28/02/2018 18:04

hotchoc

I’ve had those thoughts. I’m sure lots of us have because it’s so so horrid to feel endlessly ill. It’s ok to feel like that. You’re in the worst bit just now - at 8 weeks I was such a mess.
Not that I’m much better now at 14 but I felt some achievement hitting trimester 2.

One thing that’s helped me is the rehydration salts - they have a bit of glucose in and I think that plusvthe electrolytes helps. When I saw the doc last week she was adamant that I needed to drink not plain water - diluted fruit juice, water with a tablespoon of sugar and a pinch of salt in a big glass etc, but not plain water. Flat coke, a teaspoon at a time time has helped as well - just getting that tiny bit of sugar in can pick you up enough to feel ok enough to eat for twenty minutes.

It’s so hard. You’re doing great. Your kids don’t need much more than you being there for a hug, honest. We’ve watched so much TV but never mind.

LucindaE · 28/02/2018 19:09

hotchocloate I am so sorry you feel so foul. You are at the worst stage, when the way ahead seems endless; who wouldn't be fed up? Moan all you like, that is what this thread is for. I so agree with Anitidae about the flat coke, and in fact, any sweet drink you can stand -coke of course,has he most sugar in, but others like Dr Pepper and even Elderflower Water are very sugary, plus of course, the juice of tinned fruit and ice lollies - it seems so incngruous, sipping ice lollies in this weather! Oh dear, on 2+ ketones. You may well have to go in tomrrow. Gentle cyber pats on offer.
Shehz You've had such great advice already. Interestingly, I knew a couple of women who had babies early, at 36 weeks, and they didn't need to be helped with breathing, either.All those years ago, the accepted wisdom seemed to be that 36 weeks was the point at which lungs tended to be fuly developed, so it seems to have been revised upwards. It sounds as if that midwife was being alarmist.
totallyrasmus Again, you have had great advice. Sadly, I stopped at one m yself , but I have regretted it.
DeadDoorPost Do speak to someone about it. Much sympathy. After having Hyperemesis, I believe that in fact a lot of women suffer from PTSD, and no wonder, given the lack of sympathy.How is the lingering nausea? That is enough in itself, to make anyone depressed.
Endora No vomiting for five days is great. Remember, you will take a while to recover, perhaps as long as you have been ill. Don't be hard on yourself. I so agree with Anitidae.
Aniidae Swden - I used to work with a woman from Sweden, who said that while it is so much colder there, it isn't the dismal damp cold of the UK. I'm glad the midwife wanted details, anyway.
Wonderful advice from Endora Anitidae and everyone...
bitzy I hope you are OK.
Waves to Natsku and Mustang and everyone.
Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked.

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Aw12345 · 28/02/2018 19:28

Am 14 weeks into having hyperemesis... Is a horrifying condition! Dr says it's worse then having chemo!

Keep at it ladies :-) anyone who survives HG is amazing and our babies will be worth it!!

Boredoftryingusernames · 28/02/2018 19:34

Shehz so sorry you had such a bad experience, such great advice and support from others on here - really hope it helps when you get your 2nd opinion.

Anatidaesuch great advice from you as always. Pleased to hear you have been signed off for another month. Hope you find a way to get the iron in without it making you feel even worse.

Hotchocolate so sorry you are feeling so grim. Echoing what others have said, 8 weeks is a purely hellish time, it's completely normal to question if you've done the right thing. Try not to think too much about how much longer it may last, take it one day at a time. My GP friend recommended electrolyte rehydration sachets really strongly too (I have to admit to not being able to face drinking them) so worth trying as Anatidae said if you can. Are you on any antacids - ranitidine or omeprazole, all that vomiting and not eating will make things really acidic. I think they helped me, I know Lucinda always recommends them.

I had my scan today, was really nervous but all looking good, 13+1 weeks, EDD Sept 4th. Realised how I have been quite indifferent to this pregnancy until today, even having a scan around 9 weeks I struggled to feel very much as I was feeling so terrible. It took us much longer to conceive the 2nd time and I was so thrilled when it happened. Already have the mum guilt and baby not even here yet! Was amazing seeing baby wriggling round today though, and have felt a bit more my normal self the last few days, in between the rubbish periods.

I hope Sleepy is doing ok - update us if you read this. Hopefully some of the others that haven't posted for a little bit are feeling a bit better.

Anatidae · 28/02/2018 19:39

I was actually chatting online to a lovely lady I know in oz the other day. She’s just finished really gruelling chemo and radiotherapy for advanced bc.,
I told her I was pregnant and she asked if I was sick again and I said something like ‘yes I am but seems very churlish to moan to you after what you’ve been through’

She then told me that she’d had HG with all 4 (4! Brave lady) kids and that in her experience the nausea from that was worse than her chemo.

Definitely gave me pause for thought. Hang on in there everyone.,

hotchocolate86 · 01/03/2018 07:29

Great news on the scan bored. I’m really pleased to hear all is looking good.

Thank you for all the kind words everyone. I’m going to drag myself out of bed shortly and check my ketones. I’m already feeling very queasy though and I haven’t got up yet. I’m not on any antacids but I will have to go to the hospital today or tomorrow regardless as I need more meds so can ask there. I’m not sure if I can face rehydration salts but I might be able to handle juice of tinned fruit or something. Anything sugary seems to make me worse so it’s a difficult one.

hotchocolate86 · 01/03/2018 08:14

Well my ketones are coming up as a dark purple so certainly a 3+ but I’m very unsure about getting into the hospital in the next day or two with the weather. We only have cms of snow but it’s still coming down and we are a good 45mins-hour from the hospital. I’m not sure really what to do.

Anatidae · 01/03/2018 08:21

Do you have any b vitamins? Like berocca? You need sugar but if you’re technically starving you need thiamine as well.

Half a berocca, sip it. Then something sugary - anything. Coke, a lolly, fruit in a tin. Heck of you have a glass of water with a big tablespoon of sugar and a tiny pinch of salt that’ll do nicely. Try to get the b vitamins in first though 👍

Natsku · 01/03/2018 08:46

If you can get to the hospital now hotchocolate then go now before the snow gets worse

Endora44 · 01/03/2018 08:49

I might have jinxed myself. I've been sick since yesterday evening, horrendous, have not kept anything down. I am so disappointed. I don't even think I overdid it - I had to go out to the GP on Tues and to the dietician on Wed, but I would have done that regardless. I've been sleeping so much as well this week, because I've been so weak. And I have to be so careful with carbs, my numbers are really all over the place with the GD and the dietician was so critical, reminding me how dangerous it is for baby, which is not helping. I've just had an abbreviated cry - don't want my kids to see me crying - but I just feel so hopeless and helpless now. I know I've been through it twice before, I know I can get through this, but emotionally I just feel so run down and so sick. I think the GD on top of everything really threw a monkey wrench into all my carefully laid plans Sad Confused

Shehz just to chime in, both my DC were born premature, and their lungs were fine at birth. I remember with my son they gave me a shot to develop his lungs while I was in premature labor. He did spend 3 days in the NICU under observation, but then he was discharged home on the 4th day after birth. I'm glad others like Anatidae were here to advise earlier on, bec. that consultant was completely wrong and horrible to you.

Interesting about HG being worse than chemo, I never thought about that. It is comforting in a way, though very few GPs are sympathetic to HG sufferers, though surely they must be sympathetic to chemo patients. (Not that we're both in the same boat, but still.)

hotchocolate86 · 01/03/2018 09:05

Oh endora I’m sorry to hear you’ve been so ill overnight. Hopefully it’s just a short blip and you’ll feel much better soon.

I’m having b vitamins in the form of a pregnancy vitamin spray I’ve found. I’ve only been using it about 3 days though. I will try and find something sugary I can tolerate but if all else fails I’ll add sugar and a pinch of salt to the fizzy water I’m drinking at the moment and see how that goes. We are heading off to the hospital shortly. Usually I would have a shower before I go but I don’t feel up to it and I haven’t showered in a few days so I feel particularly grim.

nailsathome · 01/03/2018 09:56

Sorry to hear lots of you are still feeling rubbish. I had 3 days of significantly reduced nausea and even managed to eat a whole dinner on Tuesday. At the dining table with the family.

I think I overdid it though because it hit me again yesterday morning and I've been in bed since. The last thing I need is kids and husband at home due to snow Confused

Shez both of my kids were born at 37 weeks and did not have any lung problems. It wasn't even mentioned as a possible concern.

LucindaE · 01/03/2018 11:28

Welcome to AW123445. What meds have they put you on? I am glad you have a sympathetic doctor. Have you go t the dreaded kesostix from a chemists, as if you need fluids they do seem to take readings seriously in hospital as a sign of dehydration? Some fluids that have helped people on here: flat full sugar coke, Elderflower water, the juice of tinned fruit, Lucoazade, fizzy orange, ice lollies, ice cubes (I know, in this weather!) Dr Pepper, soda water, sips of chocolate milkshake, some say orange juice, others finding it too acid, and sips of Robinson's fruit drinks have been suggested recently. For food - of a sort - cuppa soup, cheap ice cream, slices of melon and mango, the tinned fruit itself (especially peaches), nibles of crisps and chips and a recent addition is cornflakes.
hotchocolate Much sympathy. Poor you, you must feel dreadful. That is a difficult one, if the roads are icy and ungritted. Can you phone the hospital for advice, emphasizing that you have been unable to keep down fluids for a couple of days? The problem with sweet things is that they can make that acidity worse, so it's a bit of a vicious circle, with people only able to sip sweet drinks and getting worse heartburn and nausea.
Bored Great news about your scan.
nails and Endora. Sorry about the relapses. At least a few good days is often the sign of the turnarond to come. Take heart by that.
Anididae What that poor woman said is really something to make one think.
Glad that so many can reassure Shehz about their babies being born early and having no breathing difficulties. As I say, I am frankly puzzled. When my DD was born - that's twenty-three years ago, my goodness - the midwife said at a ante natal class that the baby's lungs were usually fully developed at 36 weeks, and then they used to count that as full term. I suppose hospitals are just that much more careful these days...
Apologies if I've missed anyone.

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hotchocolate86 · 01/03/2018 11:41

I’m at the hospital now waiting to see if they will allow me some fluids this time. Fingers crossed they do.

LucindaE · 01/03/2018 12:24

hotchocloate My goodness, I am glad that you managed to get there. Round here, nothing seems to be moving at all. After such a journey, I can't beieve that they will turn you away with no fluids. I am sure I have heard of women being given fluids when waiting, which seems sensible if it can be done.

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hotchocolate86 · 01/03/2018 13:21

I am glad we managed to get here too. Thankfully the roads were reasonably clear. It’s a long journey but quite a few busier roads. I’m hooked up to a drip now and had a stemitil injection. I’m hoping they will give me an ondansetron dose through the iv before I go home later.

Boredoftryingusernames · 01/03/2018 14:23

Hotchocolate glad you got there ok, hope you start feeling a bit better ASAP.

Endora so sorry you are so much worse after doing better, so awful having to deal with the GD and HG. Hoping things settle back down for you ASAP.

LucindaE · 01/03/2018 16:24

hotchocolate Good that you are hooked up to a drip.
Endora So sorry - I forgot that you have diabtes, that must make it so much harder. Cyber pats on offer.
Waves to bored.

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