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Husband wants abortion. First baby, unplanned. I'm so sad.

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Bibonks · 05/01/2018 12:48

Hi all,

I'm in such a spin over this.

I'm 27, husband has just turned 29. We've been together 9 years, married for 2.

He's just finishing a PhD in philosophy and is applying for postdoc positions. I have a good, stable job in a university library, with great maternity leave / pay.

I've had two abortions with him, both due to contraceptive failure (we seem to be ridiculously fertile). The first time was an easy decision for me to make. The timing was absolutely wrong, we had no money, no stability, and could barely look after ourselves, let alone a baby. I was very early in the pregnancy and in no way did I think of it as a 'baby'.

The second time was harder. It turned out I was pregnant during our wedding; I found out about 5 days afterwards. I still made the decision, and I haven't regretted it, but it was far more stressful than the time before. We had a house by then, were settled, happy, with more financial stability. I'd thought of baby names. My husband knew it was hard for me, but didn't [I]really[/I] understand.

Since then I've been broody. I've talked over having children with him numerous times, and he wants to wait for another 5-10 years. I don't know if he is just stringing me along on this - I think he'd be happy if I said I never wanted kids.

I don't want to wait for a number of reasons, but one of the most pressing is that my parents are getting older (both now in their 70s), his parents are not in the best of health (his dad recently had prostate cancer and there's a risk it'll come back, his mum has just been diagnosed with Parkinson's and is already shaky), and I want them to have quality time with their grandchild while they're still fit and healthy enough to enjoy it. In another ten years' time, who knows what the situation will be - they may not be here, or we may well be caring for them.

After lots of soul-searching, I'd just sort of come round to the idea of waiting. I decided I'd make the most of my life, throw myself into work, distract myself from feeling so broody. But then my body seems to have played a trick on me. Thought I had the flu. Nope. HUGE dark BFP. Currently 4-5 weeks.

Obviously, my husband was terrified. He sort of assumed I'd get another abortion. But I can't. I can't face it. What do we do, just keep throwing away babies until the stars align and everything is perfect? It'll never be perfect. There'll always be something wrong. He seems to think getting an abortion is like getting the flu jab.

Yesterday he said that he'd been thinking lots about our 'situation' and that he'd decided we could 'compromise' by getting an abortion now and then definitely trying again in 5 years. I said an abortion wasn't a compromise, and that I wouldn't be getting one.

My husband is absolutely devastated. He is being incredibly cold towards me. He is saying things like 'it's like a prison sentence', 'I feel like a void has opened up in my life', 'you're going to hate being a mum', 'things will never be the same between us', 'you're being selfish'. I've tried to listen sympathetically. I know it's a shock. I know he's scared. I was an unplanned pregnancy too, and my Dad reacted in much the same way. He pressured my mum into an abortion, and it was only when they got to the clinic that my mum told him if he made her get one, she'd never love him again. He changed his mind. And as soon as I was born he was besotted, he's a wonderful dad, and equally I love him more than I can say. (I told my husband this and he just said 'great, just carry on the family tradition'.)

I hate this. I'm not a person who has a wide group of friends and confidantes. My husband is my world and my best friend, and without his support I feel utterly bereft and alone. I'm happy about this pregnancy. I've started taking my vitamins and researching birthing suites and thinking of names and I'm so excited. But I can't share any of it with him. And it's making me doubt my decision. Am I just being sentimental? Should I just get an abortion now before I get too attached? I've done it twice before, so really, what's different this time? But then I think about the little bean growing inside me and just feel so utterly sick at the thought of terminating.

Has anyone experienced this? Do you have any advice? Will he come round? Any reassuring words would help.

OP posts:
specialsubject · 05/01/2018 16:50

I think the husband figured that abortion as contraception had been given the OK by the op.

Not the case. If you want a baby and can support it alone, have the baby. I don't think he will ' come round' , sadly.

Aurea · 05/01/2018 16:51

Please keep the baby, otherwise regrets will consume you.

Your husband may fall in love with the baby once it's born (mine did and was delaying before I got pregnant by accident)

If he doesn't, you need to kick him to the curb.

Best wishes!

BewareOfDragons · 05/01/2018 16:55

You married an asshole.

I would keep the baby and seriously consider losing the asshole.

RLOU88 · 05/01/2018 16:56

OP this post is almost identical to my past. I myself had two abortions with my ex when I was younger. He threatened to break up with me if I didn’t as he was a j witness and wasn’t even meant to be sleeping with me (his family would go mad etc). Whilst you have to ultimately mke the decision yourself I made the wrong one so deserpate for his (fake) love and approval. It ruined my life for a long, long time and the guilt will never fully go. Please do not have one if you want to keep the baby even a tiny bit.

I am not with a new partner and 5 months pregnant with our child and couldn’t be happier. I still cry that it should be my third though.

Go with your heart on this one I promise. If I could turn back time and leave him and keep my babies I would have. I left him ultimately anyway - albeit 6 years later.

Best wishes for your future and if you need to talk I (and a lot of others) are here for you x

NimbleKnitter · 05/01/2018 16:58

Ok, unusually, I am prepared to give your husband the benefit of the doubt and say he's just really bad at expressing himself, rather than an utter arsehole.

But I definitely agree you shouldn't abort this baby just because he wants to. It seems from your post that you want this baby, and are more than able to look after it.

Talk to him.

An unplanned pregnancy is probably a huge shock to him. Give him the chance to step up.

If he doesn't, that's really sad. For all three of you, and as others have said, I don't see how your relationship could survive.

It happens. You'll cope

Aeroflotgirl · 05/01/2018 16:58

He sounds awful. If he did not want kids he should have been honest with you from the start, instead of stringing you a long. He shoukd also get his tubes tied, it takes two to tango. If you don't want an abortion, don't have it. I wou,d be seriously considering a future without him in it.

Lweji · 05/01/2018 17:01

I'm thinking you should tell him to get a vasectomy if he wants you to have an abortion, before you have any abortion, and then dump him.

BewareOfDragons · 05/01/2018 17:02

I honestly think your husband has married you under false pretenses: he doesn't want children. He never intends to have them. He doesn't want them.

LittleLeatherBatwings · 05/01/2018 17:04

Op, dont end up childless due to your husband never feeling it was the right time. Your fertility is finite. His isn't. He could move on and have babies at any point. This may well be your last chance.

BagelGoesWalking · 05/01/2018 17:10

It's all about him isn't it, with no regards to you and any future fertility problems or any other health issues which could impact your life.

He sounds like the kind of guy who is lovely ... until he's not, because he's not getting his own way. Of course, he's within his rights to not want children, but he has to tell you. Not string you along with another 5 years etc

It may end your relationship with him or definitively change it - how would you feel about that?

TeaAndToast85 · 05/01/2018 17:16

Don't be pushed into any decision you don't want to make, OP. And maybe consider getting some more reliable contraception? 3 unplanned pregnancies is a bit much. Implant/coil?

MumW · 05/01/2018 17:17

I'm thinking you should tell him to get a vasectomy

Tell him that. If he even considers to that, then you know for sure he's stringing you along. If he refuses to have one as 'he wants kids later' then, as I suggested earlier, tell him "that fate says otherwise and it's now not later so he is either with you now or he isn't "

Footle · 05/01/2018 17:18

Sorry I haven't read the whole thread, but a doctor said to me in a vaguely similar situation "an abortion doesn't make a pregnancy go away". It will still be there as a massive regret , getting in the way of your closeness.

Rudgie47 · 05/01/2018 17:19

I would keep the baby and dump him.You have a good job that will support you with maternity leave etc, theres no reason why you cant make new friends in life. You are not dependant on him.
Hes horrible, its not fair expecting you to have abortion after abortion, what a pig he is. He will have sex with you but he doesnt offer you any support does he?
He should have been honest with you to begin with, he doesnt want children and he doesnt give a toss about what you think.

TeaAndToast85 · 05/01/2018 17:19

By the way, I'm not saying that from an anti-choice perspective, it is every woman's right to choose. I just know how upsetting and draining the whole process can be, and it would be good to save yourself future heartache. Good luck with whatever you choose to do x

thumbelina03 · 05/01/2018 17:19

There is never going to be a "right" time to have a baby.

I wouldn't have this abortion if you feel this strongly. You will just feel regret and sadness.

Is it just a knee jerk reaction or is he just scared at the prospect of his life changing? If he's talking to you in this way, can you consider going it alone as hard as it will be? Better to walk away and be happy than to stay in a relationship which, quite frankly, sounds as though you're going to be on a repeat cycle of abortion after abortion.

MargaretCavendish · 05/01/2018 17:20

I 100% agree with everyone that you shouldn't have an abortion that you don't want, and that your husband is not treating you well or with respect.

The one thing I do have some slight sympathy with is his job situation is a lot more precarious than previous posters seem to have realised. His funding presumably has or is about to run out, and in a subject like philosophy success rates in postdoc applications are very low. Most philosophy PhD graduates won't find an academic job, and will need to find an alternative career, which might involve retraining. If he does get a postdoc, it's very likely to mean moving cities or even countries - and obviously all that is going to be much harder with a baby.

I'm not saying this to excuse his behaviour at all - this has been appalling, and does not say good things about him - but I do think that all the 'he is ridiculous to think your current circumstances aren't ideal' posts are making assumptions about how 'settled' his career is that almost certainly really aren't accurate.

Rockandrollwithit · 05/01/2018 17:22

Our second baby was unplanned. Completely our fault - took a risk because it took us ages to conceive the first and thought it would be fine. I got pregnant and I knew that I didn't want an abortion.

It wasn't a great time for us but DH never said any of the horrible things your DH has said to you. Please tell your Mum everything and get some real life support Flowers

Buxtonstill · 05/01/2018 17:24

If you go ahead and have an abortion, I don’t think you are going to have much of a relationship to fall back on. You obviously want this baby, and in are in a position to do so. It’s not all about him. If he is that against having a child then he should have prevented it. So it’s your job to prevent the pregnancy, and suffer the physical and mental effects of a termination? I would be going ahead with the pregnancy. If it doesn’t suit him, fine. He can bugger off.

ptumbi · 05/01/2018 17:28

OP - your DH only has autonomy over his own body. If he doesn't like condoms, won't get a vasectomy, doesn't want kids, then he has to take responsibility for contraception. If he doesn't want kids, don't have sex.

He cannot expect or demand that you have an abortion.

He does not get a say in this baby now. He has had the opportunity to say 'I don't want kids', but if he doesn't, then he doesn't have sex. OR he takes responsibility for his own fertility. He doiesn't get to say what happens to you.

The baby is there, it;'s half his. But it's YOUR BODY!

MrsHathaway · 05/01/2018 17:30

I forgot to say ... my parents conceived a baby while my father was a postgrad student. He never finished his PhD though within his grasp. He found another route to fulfilment and flourished in his new field.

I'm pretty damn sure he's never ever regretted having his children when he had them. And he didn't run away from my mother either.

NapQueen · 05/01/2018 17:35

This is the saddest thread Ive ever read.

AfishhCalledElvira · 05/01/2018 17:39

I had 2 babies with my XH (both of which he didn't want and wanted to terminate). He was a useless father both times and left after the 2nd one was born to have an affair with a work colleague. I've pretty much raised them solo- I was young too (26). 10 years on I have the most beautiful pair of sons that are amazing and we have the closest relationship with. I also have a new partner (whom I'm shortly to have DS3 with). The best thing to come out of my first marriage was my 2 fabulous boys. I'm so happy I went with my gut instinct and had them and not him!

Congratulations on your pregnancy Thanks

alwayslearning789 · 05/01/2018 17:41

He wants another 5 - 10 year wait!!!!!!
After 9 years of being together...And Married????

OP that tells you all you need to know about his true intention - not to have any children until you can't have any.

Remember that male fertility isn't as limited as female fertility - and consider the potential implications of that, should he change his mind, when you are no longer able to conceive.

Tippz · 05/01/2018 17:42

@bibonks

Yeah, like a few others on here, I am wondering why, if your DH is SOOOOOO against having a child, why he doesn't have a vasectomy. He wants you to keep having abortions because it doesn't suit him, but he won't have the snip.

This whole set of shit would be a dealbreaker for me for sure. I have a bad feeling though, that the OP will do what her DH wants, as it sounds like he is the controlling force in the relationship. Can't say why I think this; it's just something about the way she is speaking.

Another thing to think about OP, is that if you abort, and maybe try again in 5 years and you struggle to conceive, (and continue to struggle,) your DH will have no issue with HIS fertility. He could deny you a baby for the next 5-8 years, til it's too late for you, then piss off and leave you, and have a baby with another woman.

I have seen this happen.... a woman not have children because her husband didn't want one, then split up with him when they are 40-45, and it's too late for her. Then he has met a woman aged 30-ish, and gone and had a baby with her.

I have never understood why, in these instances, the man's choice almost always trumps the woman's! Hmm

And I am sorry to say this OP, although a few people are right that your DH is shocked, and worried, there is no WAY you can say his behaviour is acceptable. He is treating you like a piece of shit. (And he never wants a child, surely you can tell this...)

Please, please, please do NOT let him treat you this way. Sad Stand up to him, and do NOT have this abortion.

PLEASE Sad