Posifrickentive into 2018 - thread 20 for those pregnant after mc

[MsJuniper]

New thread - bringing lots of happiness, support and understanding through Christmas and into the new year!

Smurf I've had 2 previously and I'm 9+5 now.. would it be to late to start the low dose aspirin now? I might try and get to my gp after christmas and ask! Xx

The aspirin thing seems so variable. My gps were adamant that there no evidence for its effectiveness for mc, and they did ring the hospital to check regarding iugr, who said no or not till much later. It was after speaking to the dr at the hospital who checked me when I was mc that I decided to take it when next pregnant (who was happy for me to take it) Regarding preeclampsia and iugr, it seems to simply be to start before 12 - 14 weeks. I think the thing they worth about is that it reduces clotting so you as a mum can bleed more eg nose bleeds or if cut.

Congratulations blue! Lovely picture! And sorry if I missed your news foxtrot, great news too!

We told my son last night. He's delighted and keeps kissing my tummy. He woke this morning and the first thing he said is that he'd like to take the scan pic into School and show everyone and take him to my parents on the train (as long as the baby didn't fiddle with the train too much).

Ekphrasis aww how lovely! How old is he? Xx
Maybe i should mention aspirin to the gps then as i had p.e with my only successful pregnancy and had to be induced.

Yea it does seem to vary so much. In my case I was willing to try anything this time round and everyone was adamant that it definitely would do no harm so was worth trying to me. I'm now 27 weeks and enjoying feeling baby move and kick.... I wish I could say that was enough to stop me worrying.. It hasn't and I still have panics fairly regularly but at least I can try and pacify myself that if I'm feeling baby fairly regularly it should (fingers crossed) be alright for now..
I gave in and found a number to phone doctor back home who has said it is fine to take both the 500mg pessary and use 2 % cream for the thrush so I'll do that tonight and hopefully it will make a difference. I just hate the uncertainty of it all and of the not knowing who to trust or what it better. So far in this pregnancy I've been reluctant to use or take anything at all preferring to let things fix themselves but I don't think that'll work with thrush so I think I'll have up give in and believe that it is going to be OK to take it..
Counting down the days to next scan.. (And the one after that until baby is here!)

Congrats for the lovely scans - wonderful news

So sorry to hear you've been poorly hotcookie, I hope you're feeling much better today

In case I'm not on again before the big day, wishing everyone a happy and stress-free Christmas. This thread is so fabulously positive and supportive -
thank you

@Ekphrasis that's adorable

Oh I'm coming up to the time I miscarried last two pregnancies and I thought I was doing okay but I'm getting quite scared at every twinge and drip - even though I have been quite mucousy so it's probably that and I still feel sick.

Hand hold? :( I have an appointment and possible scan on the 29th and LOTS to distract me before then but argh!

I hear you Bertie, I keep analysing my boob soreness. I am trying to assume that everything will be fine else I'll go crazy. Enjoy Christmas - today you are pregnant!

Have been to loo and just creamy discharge which has helped reassure for now! I've made soup with DS because he's feeling poorly and DH is prancing around trying to cook a Michelin Star Christmas dinner for tomorrow I've never let him before and he's jumped at the chance to do something ridiculous so I hope we're all well enough to enjoy it! :)

Oh hand holding bertie even at 20 weeks I still knicker check sometimes. I found reaching that point extremely hard. I'm sure all will be fine this time - hope ds feels better soon x

Hand holding Bertie. I still knicker check at 32 weeks. It never really leaves you, but it does get easier.

That is so sweet Ekphrasis.

We went to our typical sunday mass today and it was the Bishop doing the service. He knows about our history and was very supportive during the early weeks of this pregnancy. He spotted my bump, did a thumbs up and legged it out of the procession over to whisper How long now? and then legged it back to his place. He is such a lovely man. That totally made my christmas and reminded me how many lovely people care and how much help we have had to get to here.

Feeling better as I have got through more of the day! I just want DS to go to bed so I can set up the tree.

Bertie that’s great news, I’m the same as Brenna I definitely am much more chilled at 32 weeks, but I wiped and had some blood the other day (from a large poo ) and massively freaked. Until you’re holding them I think you worry, and then you worry when they’re out!!

You’ll know all this having a DS! It’s no easy job being a Mum... your heart walks around outside of you (I’m not usually one for mushy nonsense but I do believe that!).

Anyway, Merry Xmas one and all 🎁🎅 oh and brenna your bishop sounds lovely 😊

Hand holding please, I have almost 3 weeks to my 20 week scan and 3 days to a cervical length scan for IC.
I'm convinced I've lost bub in last couple of days, I've had nausea but no proper vomiting, however after feeling odd all day a couple of days ago I was suddenly very violently sick at night and when I tried to eat next day felt really sick again, I haven't been able to eat since and I'm convinced I've had some forms of food poisoning and harmed bub.
Also I'm coming toward 18 weeks and haven't felt it move yet which really worries me as I keep hearing women much earlier than me talking about feeling their little one wriggling all the time.

I'd been driving myself nuts about the 20 week scan anyway, expecting bad news and difficult decisions to be made, on top of which we have a mild risk of zika, but I've been the 1 in 100 far too many times on this journey to rule out it being me.

Where my question was really going though was if I am right and I have lost bub, will I be allowed to deliver at home? I can't bare the thought of them throwing my baby in the incinerator with the "medical waste" I'd rather have bub somewhere special to me.

Merry Christmas all you lovely ladies! So happy to have this thread, I'm not the most regular poster, but read along every day. Bertie and grumpy, I think I haven't posted since you got your bfps: welcome and congratulations! Hope we get to hang around here for 7-8 months!

Bertie I'm the same as you, coming up to the time I lost last my last pregnancy. I am 8+5 today, and had a mmc exactly a year ago where we discovered at 10 weeks that the baby had died at 8. I can't help to worry about slightly less nausea (probably because I have time off and don't have to rush to work) and some lower back pain (again, most likely because I insisted on carrying home two heavy bags of groceries two days ago). I have another scan on Thursday, and if we get past that, I think I will feel better. But again, mogul and brenna are probably right in that the worry never really ends.

For the rest of you, I hope you have a peaceful celebration, and think more about family and friends and less about the worst case scenario as seems to be my non-stop worry for now .

Zaa I'm sorry, cross posting going on. Sorry that your feeling so worried, and hand holding for you. I'm pretty sure it's very unlikely that a stomach bug or food poisoning can have harmed the baby, unless it's caused by toxoplasmosis or listeria, which is also highly unlikely. But I know what you mean about having been on the wrong side of statistics, so I'm not sure me saying that will help much.

I didn't feel dd until about 20 weeks, and also felt very frustrated. But it is not uncommon, and particularly not if your placenta is anterior as mine was.

Placenta is currently previa, sat right atop my cervix at my last cervical length check, so it's not that blocking the kicks.
I guess that answers my own questions about delivering at home, previa would be too much of a risk of hemorrhage. Does that mean they'd do a c/s? Would they at least let me see bub after? I really can't cope with the idea of them just chucking bub in with the "medical waste"

In my head I know that one way or another this isn't going to be a happy ending.

I don't think I can cope with today, and family, and pretending to be happy. I just want to curl up in bed and sleep.

Hugs zaa - with my first I did t feel him till 17 weeks and I remember at the time that was very early compared to peers on mn and real life. I felt movement earlier this time but actually very differently for some reason, not the wild scrabbling I had with my son (maybe this one is calmer?! ) and sometimes it's worried me. I can only feel it down low near my cs scar. Many women don't feel baby till 20 weeks - and they really don't as I know some who didn't. At my 20 week scan last week he was rolling all over the place (pleased the sonographer!) and I simply couldn't feel him.

I really thought my nausea had gone at 16 weeks. Then I had two really bad days where I was very nearly sick (I've not been sick at all) triggered by smelling my son's (over eating) sick. It lasted over 2 days and was very odd. There are a lot of viruses going around too at the moment - it's possible it was that.

If you are really struggling I would phone the epu tomorrow - they're very used to just checking a mum over. Tell them about the sickness too.

I do get your worry - I know from my first pregnancy that I'm some how not immune to slapped cheek disease. There was a huge break out and at school and I freaked out from the constant testing and pressure from work and being told to stay away. This time I have heard of it being in my son's class and there's been odd rashes in children at work - nothing confirmed and we actually thought it was scarlet fever. I'm mostly braver now but coupled with movement than I remember plus baby has a huge tummy I'm getting the odd freak out about having caught it and baby now has foetal hydrops. But somehow this time I am actually feeling better at keeping the perspective- I Thing this is because I could actually reasonably go in and ask to be checked over (and might still query it with my mw). So do use them to help you navigate your anxiety; don't feel unreasonable as they'd rather reassure a healthy mum and baby than miss an unhealthy one.

I hope you have a good day today as much as you can

Sorry you’ve been feeling so worried bertie and zaa, hand hold here from me fwiw.

I’m sorry I dont know the answer to your question Zaa but just wanted to say that I wouldn’t worry about trying to pretend to be happy; if you’re in a funk just look after yourself, I’m sure your family will understand. Like the others I didn’t feel my DS kick until quite late; well after 20weeks. I think that’s quite common especially in a first. My nausea has also been coming and going (Think most of my posts have been me freaking out about that);one on occasion I thought it was finished as I was able to start eating again but started vomiting that night, which I hadn’t been.

Have also had a lot of discharge Bertie and i’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve convinced myself I was bleeding before I got to the loo.

Hope everyone is able to have a good Christmas and here’s to 2018 being all of our years!

Zaa if it is reassuring at all.. I didn't feel movements until closer to 20 weeks and tbh even after that before it was definitely defined movements... I'm now 27 weeks and there are still days when I worry about movements but it's also strange because there are times when I can see or feel with my hand baby's foot or bum or head etc sticking out and then feel with my hand that baby has moved away but I don't actually feel the movement. So if I didmt have my hand in my stomach or I was walking or moving about I definitely wouldn't feel it.

A really good friend bought me a changing bag for Christmas. It's the first baby related thing we have got. And it is gorgeous.. But if I'm honest I also freaked out a little bit. Lying down now in need of feeling movements just to reassure myself... (From past so far when I stress out about movements I don't feel them) but do hard not to!

Zaa, some people feel nothing until 23 or 24 weeks or even later. Mine were very faint little twitches that you could easily miss and that was just because baby was in the right place for me to feel them. Yours could be hanging out somewhere at the back. At this stage a tummy bug or most types of food poisoning (apart from listeria or toxoplasmosis as mentioned above) would have mush less of an effect that in the first trimester too. I hope you feel better now. Don't hesitate to give triage a call though and chat to them. They know better than us. Even with my MMC at 11 weeks they wouldn't have thrown the baby on the incinerator had I had it at hospital. They keep the remains and either give them to you if you want that, sent them for autopsy if that is what you want or they all go together to the local crematorium and they have a special joint cremation for them and then a memorial service for the parents later. Babies are never disposed of as if they were waste. Hugs. With the placenta previa I think you would have to go into hospital. Otherwise you could bleed out. But I am really hoping for you that this won't be necessary and that you are going to see a wonderful, lazy baby at your next scan.

Merry christmas all. I have 3 words to describe christmas lunch - I regret nothing. I still have to eat my pudding too as I have been too full so far.

Wishing you all a very happy Christmas. Hugs to you, Bertie and Zaa
Zaa I’m so sorry you’re feeling like this. I hope today has been ok. do give the midwives a call.

Brenna what a lovely Bishop.

I’m struggling with bad morning sickness. I hardly had it with DS, and while I am grateful for the ‘symptom’ that I’m pg, it is debilitating. The kind ladies on the HG thread put me onto some OTC anti sickness meds which are helping me keep some food/fluid down. Decided to still go to a holiday cottage I booked tomorrow, but not looking forward to the five hour drive!

Thanks all

Zaa I had praevia with DS at that point and I had to have a 34 week scan. By then it had moved away and apparently this is what happens most of the time but obviously they need to check as it would be v dangerous to go into labour naturally, but please don't worry as it is quite normal for it to be low at the moment and move as your uterus continues to stretch and grow. If it does move out of the way (which is quite likely) then you can have a home birth, I was booked for one with DS, had a blow up pool and everything, but transferred in for slow progress. If it did remain in the cervix covering position then I believe they would do a caesarean because it's considered too risky to attempt a normal labour.