Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

That's me on the avomine lol.
Sorry didn't comment earlier having a really bad day.
Bunny the avomine works great for me but in combination with metoclopromide.
I hope it works for you.

Mustang Oh so the 18 week relapse is common after all? I was doing good with my medecines until I hit 18 weeks and all of a sudden I am back to 7weeks where constant nausea plus vomit was a norm...

shehz you might find there's another one about 30 weeks as well sadly. It's when I went downhill again. Didn't last for more than 2 weeks though. I do sympathise. It's not nice at all.

Oh God, dreading 30 weeks then!

Hi everyone. Thanks for all the tips - have been reading all the links and old thread. Am around 13 weeks now and diagnosed with HG at 9 weeks. Was on Cyclizine but this week switched to Promethazine and Ondansetron. Is the general feeling that Lactulose the best option to take for constipation? Wish I'd found this thread before I started taking it! Will be going to the pharmacy tonight so any advice very welcome. Thank you!

Thanks for all the constipation support 😂

I ended up having to down three pints of water and go for a walk, that seemed to help things along sufficiently. Have had to come home early as I'm exhausted and nauseous, but I do have some old glycerine suppositories knocking around somewhere here...

Something has been bothering me of late relating to the drugs. Does anyone feel guilty for taking them? They have a good safety profile and I've read up a lot about them, but I have to say the Ondansetron does bother me a little. Maybe because it makes me feel SO much better - that I feel I should suck it up for the sake of the baby parasite so that I can eliminate as many risks as possible. Reading this back I can see it's the anxiety talking rather than sense...I'm just interested in others views. My mental health has really taken a battering over the past few weeks and maybe this is part of the recovery. Ace who knows.

Pregnancy is shite

Batman my sister wouldn't take any meds as she was worried about it. She's a vet and very up on her medical knowledge but admits she had this weird feeling about taking anything. She was throwing up constantly with her first. That said, he's 6.5 now and I think things have come a long way. I can barely function on the meds, not sure I would be able to do anything without them.
Fireside hope the meds work. I'm on cycle and ondansetron and I'm much better.
Here was me hoping for symptoms to ease up and even if they do I have 18 and 30 week relapses to look forward to. Off to calculate when these will be. Better be none around my queen gig!
On constipation, I now have terrible piles. I'll be on the good old rubber ring in no time. It's agony just sitting. I need to drink more water but I can't bear it. Sudocream to the rescue, hopefully. I used to be a sexy minx who drank tequila shots and partied. Now I do lactulose shots, spend my life in pjs and try and get comfortable with piles Things have definitely changed round here.
That said, 17.20. I have tidied my kitchen, played with my son, made a pot of soup (which apparently, tastes like soup!) and I'm only lying down for a nap now. Feeling quite righteous. Oh and have retched a few times but no sick. Happy days. Aside from the ar&e that feels the size of a potholers favourite cave. TMI? Probably

Dead No way?!wwhhhyyy this extra suffering around 30 week mark where we are gonna be struggling with the normal woes of 3rd trimester.

Batman I can totally relate to your anxiety. I have especially read about how ondansetron is a B cat drug as compared to phenergan which is a C cat ( which means ondansetron is safer according to the internet ).
But to keep my sanity throughout this pregnancy,I let my worries be overuled by my need of the drugs.

Fireside Welcome.
It is the general consensus that lactulose is the best option for the constipation which comes with ondansetron but I'm sure the others will have better advice regarding this. I ain't on ondansetron so not much help here sorry.

Can totally relate to the 18week relapse, think that's why I have been feeling so awful past few weeks. I was just starting to feel a bit better and then bam I feel awful. 20 weeks today so hopefully it gets better.

Welcome fireside get glugging that lactulose.

seize I hear ya, was just thinking earlier that I used to be sooooo fun.

On drugs I didn't want to take anything but I really didn't have a choice. Ultimately it's a medicated pregnancy or no pregnancy at all.
I've done extensive research and satisfied myself that the risks are minimal and as ondansetron is a cat b I'm actually most happy taking that.
The pregnancy sickness pages have good info on the research which helped me.

Shehz I know, it sucks but you might miss the 30 weeks one. It's just what I found.
Fireside Welcome; I've found that for me, the ondansetron wasn't the problem, it was the iron tablets I was having to take. I've never hated tablets more...
Batman As soon as I took tablets I felt so much better because I was more concerned that NO tablets would cause more damage than taking them.

You're all right about the drugs, and it has been helpful to be reminded that ondansetron is a cat b drug.

Justtheone I completely agree, it's a medicated pregnancy or no pregnancy at all.

I thInk maybe I need to admit that my MH is perhaps a little more off kilter than I thought

Oh and YY dead, it was the ketones that did it for me.

Sorry ladies, didn't mean to scaremonger, just having a bad day

Totally understandable batman, my mental health has taken a nose dive. Think we all worry about the drugs to start with. Only natural. I was going to be such a healthy pregnant but as it is I survive on white carbs and that worries me too. If I'm having a go day I force down a smoothie but I could cry at the shit I'm growing a baby on.

I'm actually really struggling today. I'm so fed up of being ill. I haven't been out of the house for nearly a week and I've barely been out of bed. I just keep crying. Feel like I barely hear from friends and when I do I end up cancelling plans as I'm ill. Feel really lonely.

Absolutely justtheone. I am normally such a healthy active person and I've been reduced to a carb loading shell who just sits around whimpering most days, even if I'm at work. I have my own office and am very senior, so I have a lot of control over my working day. I don't think I would cope at all if I had to be on a shop floor or a ward all day.

It's really helped me appreciate how hard some people with a chronic health condition must have it. At least mine is time limited, and hopefully will have a very happy outcome.

Bunny I take avomine (also called promethazine and phenergen) but in combination with ondansetron. It wasn’t enough on its own.

You guys do make me laugh, this thread is about the only thing keeping me sane!

Crazy neighbour was trying to smash his window coz he's locked himself out then when the locksmith came told him to F off because he had no I'D or the money to pay him.
I may or may not be feeling slightly unsettled eight now as this is definitely a crazy neighbour. At least DH dealt with him and not me...

I'm sorry you're feeling so low Justtheone. I had a couple of weeks like that and they were very damaging mentally and physically. I used to self harm as a teen and I was quite shocked when the urge came back at that time, just as a coping mechanism for the mental anguish. I didn't, and it's passed thankfully.

I manage to get dressed and leave the house most days, but if I didn't have a toddler I doubt I would. Being in work helps, but I tend to feel ok in the mornings, so skip to work and then it just hits me like a car crash around 11am, even on the ondansetron. I've had meetings today where I've just thought "please shut up and go away" for most of it. I had to leave at 2pm as it got that bad, then crawled into bed for a long nap. DH said I sounded a bit feral at one point.

This thread is the only thing I have. My GP asked the other day if I had good support and I heard the words "oh yes there's a great thread on mumsnet that's very supportive". I must have sounded crazy.

Everyone else is very nice, but people only really get it if they've had it. That said, I do think that Kate Middleton having had it and been public about it has helped. There's a broader understanding of what it's about. The fact that she has a shit load more support than anyone else (I don't begrudge it if anyone) and has still had to clear her "work" diary has helped. I do sometimes ponder whether she's struggling to get a poo out if shes also on ondansetron, or whether she bothers getting dressed, or has developed a deep love of really shitty white carbs etc etc etc. I'd like to see her blog about it

👊🏻 The struggle is real my sisters, thank you for keeping me sane (to some extent)

BATMAN (otherwise known as a 35 year old public servant from oop north)

But does she help??? She was dancing with fucking Paddington Bear the other day and looking rosey with Will and her babies in another pic I saw . She is obviously very lucky and I’m sure the treatment she gets is second to none though. I do think she would help more if she wore trackies didn’t brush her hair and only ventured out with an ice lolly in her hand for at least 30 weeks 😂😂. That’s the true face of HG for most of us lol.

Mh is really bad here, had a rough 3 weeks, colds, winter vomiting bug and no family help iv literally only been able to do the laundry, cook some basic meals for my boys and do the dishes it’s been bad. Tried to do something nice for my toddler today it back fired completely and I ended up crying in a park. Mortified and feeling utterly useless doesn’t come close.

Sorry everyone else is having a shit time too or not so much shit time thanks to ondansetron lol.

Sounds like that was scary dead, hugs.

Ps Batman I talk about this thread and everyone on it like they are super heroes/goddesses. I love you guys, fook it if people think I’m crazy I’d never have got this far in this pregnancy without you all. Seriously thank you Lucindae for continuing the thread it’s such a life saver.

😂 Mustang I would LOVE to see a pic of her looking like the rest of us.

I dunno, the putting her glad rags on and going for a dance with a bear is hardly the image of someone with HG I agree. However it reminded me of a works do I went to last week where I had to don my best frock, drag a brush through my hair and smile for a few hours. I did it, with only two trips to the loo to retch/silently sob, but I did it nonetheless. Bloody paid for it afterwards, but I know it can be done on occasion if exceptionally well managed and in a rare good spot.

I wonder what her MH is like, she's in an isolated position at the best of times. Doubt she's a MN'er

mustang sorry you had such a bad day. At least you tried?? How old are your boys?

Home from hospital and just threw up every little thing I managed to eat there. I could identify cornflakes from breakfast this morning! Nothing was even vaguely digested. I am so frustrated, I could cry (I did!)

justtheone - bless your heart. I can totally relate and felt (still feel, sometimes) similar. Do you have a 'person' - someone you can snot bubble cry at? If so, use them. It's a great release. Don't worry about being self indulgent - just let out all the sad. If you don't have a person, ring me!

batman - I'm a vet too and super paranoid about taking drugs fullstop. Trust me, I've done a LOT of looking into it and have managed to convince myself it's fine. What would you say to a friend in your shoes? I imagine it would be something along the lines of TAKE THE DRUGS!!!

Oh god if she is, I am so sorry I realised I was an absolute ass because we all know journos publish pics that tell a whole story eh . Yeah and now you say it I imagine the poor woman is under a shed load of stress to put a brave face on as much and as quickly as possible. I hope she at least has someone she can lean on, Will looks like he genuinely adores her so maybe he looks after them all. Just picturing him nipping out at 9pm after bed time and buying some hg friendly munchies lol.

Haha i meant my oh and my son there so 30 and 2 1/2 lol

@Mustang27 ha ha! I don't know about you, but I'd love to know what medication Kate is on.

Me too - I've just been googling it and apparently she's on ginger biscuits and pizza (in her last pregnancies anyway).

I'm glad she's into pizza. That makes some sense to me. Although I could only really manage the crust, because that's beige and I only eat beige now

mustang I'm just projecting onto those pictures because the awful part of me really wants her to be a poster girl for HG, and we all know that doesn't include nice bouncy hair and dancing in a posh frock with a giant bear.

ponders what HG Poster girl would look like