Child tax credit is it true ?

[Coreynkayden]

Iv seen people sharing things about no money will be giving to families that are expecting there 3rd child after today does anybody know if this is true ?? I understand price cuts to help but i dnt see how me and my kids are going to suvive on the money i get wen my baby is here we only jst manage now :(

Rider great post.

Don't get yourself pregnant if you can't afford to pay for it.

Actually if you did manage to get yourself pregnant, you'd be flogging your story for millions and would earn too much for tax credits anyway. Alas, most of us need some assistance in the process.

What makes people so bitter that they want people worse off than themselves to suffer?

When did this society evolve to be so uncaring and out for themselves?
Is it greed? Do they want more than they have so they bash those below them?

Don't people care that families will be homeless, maybe their kids taken into care, for this reason?
Tax Credits moved many families out of poverty, I can't get my head around the fact that people want us to go back to an era where children weren't cared for by the government.

No money will be saved, it won't go towards benefitting poor people, but will line the pockets of the rich.
It's hard to believe that rich people will still receive financial support for childcare when cuts are made everywhere else.

I'm very much against these cuts, but I don't think you can say it's just bitterness. And I'll be honest, if I thought the money was likely to fund something of actual use, like an improved NHS or whatever, it would be a harder call to make because really, being expected to stick to just the two children you can't pay for isn't an outrageous imposition. But yeah, it'll end up going on something pointles/generational privilege entrenching/both.

Also childcare help even for relatively high earners tends to pay for itself in the long run. Keeping people feeling they have a stake in the system is more likely to make them support it: note the prevalence of people who've lost CB advocating it for it to be ended altogether. And a bit of assistance at peak childcare cost times can keep people working and earning a lot, and paying more tax later on. Not to mention that sometimes means testing things costs more than universal application anyway- the cutoff points for the childcare allowances have been chosen to minimise running costs.

gillybean I couldn't agree more. The mind boggles

I'd really, really, really recommend reading the book 'Chavs' by Owen Jones to everyone on this thread. It is very eye opening and if you're interested in this topic well worth a read....

Elisaveta

I used to want to think it was more than bitterness, greed, ill placed jealousy, and small mindedness, but I'm not sure anymore.

I really don't understand how people can feel the way they do, it saddens me and I worry for our future, tbh.

Gilly I am with you!! The disgusting people on this thread, who sound like they are GLOATING that children will be impoverished, sicken and repulse me. They are utterly revolting.

What on earth is happening to people??

Lol no I wont feel ashamed. @gillybeanz If I sat on my arse all my life and got paid to push out kids and then suddenly my benefits got stopped I would pick my arse up and get a job to provide for them. Like I said they have never worked a day in their lives so why would I pity them. I work to provide for my family not so other people can have an easy life.

Babyblues

Have you ever seen Cathy Come Home?
It was the 50th Anniversary of the making last year.
I suggest you look at the similarities between then and now and ask yourself if you still feel the same.
Maybe you do, and will continue to feel the same.
I'd like to know why you are so hard on people evidently worse off than yourself.

Baby for Pete's sake...are you really that dense? People are unable to work for a number of reasons. For example, they have been through complete trauma that requires years of help and support. Some people suffered early bereavement that meant they fostered their own siblings. Others have not developed the skills required to pass interview....I could go on and on!! I am shocked at the lack of empathy here.

Because they choose to be worse off. Like I said they have never worked a day in their lives. You want to be lazy then fine. But don't expect to be paid for it.

@babyblues Why are you so convinced that all benefits recipients don't work?!

Babyblues...you are an utter fool.

@babyblues
You'll get your comeuppance. Keep telling yourself you're not one of "them".

Most of us are only a pay check away from poverty.

I am not talking about everyone. I clearly stated that my sister and her partner have not worked a day in their lives and have four kids. So please go back and read.

Sorry but the theory of the poor having babies for joy is rediculous. Those i know on benefits with loads of kids are far from poor financially. They have holidays abroad, nice clothes, a nice car etc etc. Whilst i can appreciate there are some on benefits who genuinely struggle, the majority that i know have a decent amount of disposable income to have a reasonable quality of life.

Baby, so when your husband leaves you and goes self employed to avoid child support, and you can't work because you can't juggle the childcare, or you become ill, or get made redundant and can't find any other work, or you fall pregnant with twins and can't afford 2x childcare, or you, your partner or one of your kids is in an accident and needs round the clock care, or you suffer a series of bereavements and become to depressed to get out of bed or the mortgage interest rates rocket and you can't afford to pay it, or, or...

I take it you won't be accepting any kind of financial assistance in any circumstance?

Well maybe your parents should have raised her better, blue.

Hiding the thread.

Clearly everyone is going to ignore the fact that I was talking about a specific person, so I'll just let you all carry on trying to twist what I said to make out like I am talking about everyone

They choose their own life, I've worked since I left school. People blame everything on the parents. Your responsible for your own actions.

Well maybe my question has been answered then.
Dense and small minded.
People who think these cuts are right don't seem to be able to think about the many other situations that exist, apart from their own.

Bullshit funnyonion. Utter bullshit. Unless those people you speak of are criminals with alternative means or have other sources of income.

Baby

I too, am going now, as there's a horrible taste round here atm.
Irrespective of whether you feel any empathy towards others, you show none to your own family.
So, if they are unable to find work and your neices/ nephews get taken into care, you'll have no empathy.

I'm glad I'm not you.

Baby - I feel for you. You were speaking about your sister alone - apart from the other things you said which extrapolated that particular scenario to other benefit claimants.