Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk

If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Just dashing on to say, Fluteytootey Welcome. Sorry you feel so bad and had to be admitted. What meds have they got you on? As you are a veteran, I don't need to recommend kesostix. Are the juice and fruit of tinned fruit, especially peaches and pears, flat full sugar coke, sips of chocolate milkshake (perhaps soya), ice lollies, Dr Pepper, soda water, Elderflower water, nibbles of crisps, cuppa soup or slices of melon, jelly or cheap ice cream any use? How old is LO? Have you got childcare arranged?
I wonder how LightTripper is doing.
Blondes Sorry to hear of such a horrible vomit. As you say, crouching over the porcelein goddess in advanced pregnancy is no joke.
MamaBear Happy news about scan.
Daffodil That's a good idea about iron levels...
Waves to all. Back soon...

Hi everyone,

Thanks for the wonderful advice you all gave me. I've been busy downloading and listening to podcasts.

I went back to the doctor on Thursday and switched metaclopromide for cyclizine so I'm now on cyclizine and stemtil. Since starting the cyclizine I've felt so much better with barely any nausea but now I'm panicked that something had gone wrong. I had a scan on Tuesday where we saw a little heartbeat which was reassuring but I'm starting to feel so much better and this worries me!

I still have a very small appetite but just generally feel better- is this normal? I always thought the tablets only made a small difference??

Thanks lucindaE
I didn't have HG in my last pregnancy so I'm not a veteran at all. Currently on promethazine but they really knock me out. I've got a prescription for cyclizine. Is that any better? I find if I don't eat or drink then I don't feel too bad, but that's how I ended up in hospital...
Huge respect for anyone who's got through an HG pregnancy, it's absolutely vile

Hey every one. Thanks for thinking of me. I erm, I'm ok. I got a prescription from the doctor before I was admitted to hospital so I'm still taking the same medication as I was before they more than halved it at my last hospital stay. (Still really annoyed about all that). I don't know what i'll do when they run out though I'm managing being sick 5-10 times a day now but that's better than 30+. I hope you're all doing as well as can be x

Blah I am shocked they reduced your medication during your last stay in hospital. Almost as if they want you back! That is still too much vomiting. I would phone up Pregnancy Sickness Support on 024 7638 2020 and they will phone you back with good advice.
Fluteytootey I honestly done know the brand name of the drug you are on -prob ably being stupid today - I hope someone else on it will be on to advise you. I always mix it with the name for Stemitil. Cyclizine is tried and trusted and considered 100 per cent safe in pregnancy, but can make you sleepy and for some, isn't strong enough. Oh dear, I know the temptation not to take in anything,but getting dehydrated is no good for you or the baby. Is there nothing on the list of drinks that might tempt you? Ice lollies and the juice of tinned peaches are favourites.
"Twinkle* Everyone is like that. If you have seen the hearbeat since the nausea eased, try not to worry too much. The drugs must be working!

Cyczline worked for me tho still was nauseous and am sick here and there

Including this morning 😡😡😡

But was a huge improvement

Thanks Lucinda and Blondes. I'm just super paranoid after my stillbirth last year. The nausea and sickness have definitely improved since the introduction of cyclizine it just seems too good to be true. I still have food aversions, am eating very little and feel slightly sickly after food but I just feel so much better in the past 24 hours (started them 48 hours ago)

fluety its not so much a case of one being better per se - one of the 'stronger' ones might not work for you as much as the first line ones - it's very individual.
I had everything bar ondasetron last time and while none worked particularly well, or stopped me being sick, the one that worked best with fewest side effects was actually the mildest :/ it helped with the sickening churning nausea more than the stronger stuff.
Promethazine is an antihistamine- it is strongly sedating so best to take at night. Cyclazine is also an antihistamine but works on fewer systems (promethmazine has some mild antipsychotic and neuroleptic effects too.) both are considered safe in pregnancy. Cyclazine isn't as sedating.

I don't feel so bad today (first day I've had more than a couple of hours sleep this week which probably helps!) so I'm less apprehensive I'm pregnant.
Sticks will still be weed on later this week!

Hope everyone is ok

Antidae As you wish to avoid pregnancy, I'm glad to hear that!
Twinkle I can imagine how nervous you must be. I was after an mmc, and that is nothing like so tragic as a still birth. I hope they are giving you special treatment.
Blondes Oh dear, poor you! Let me find the due dates list - with you in pride of place, to encourage you.
Waves to all. Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked.
Thinking of LightTripper
Due Dates
Blondes 30 March
HurryUpApril17 17 April
NerrSnerr 18 April
Castlefeck 19 April
moonoverthewater 10 May
user1477 14 May
IAmSeriousAndDontCallMeShirley 20 May
Robber Bride 29 May
LHReturns 1 June
PeaceLove 3 June
Boobs 6 June
South London 6 June
fourcorneredcircle 7 June
Pastiemaid 12 June
squeezypeasy 13 June
Babyand 23 June
Captain Warbeck 24 June
HollyHop17 20 July
whoate 1 August
HaichM 1 August
SociallyAcceptableCookie 5 August
JimmyJay Early August
Daffodil 11 August
SickRose 18 August
Pip1982 20 August.
Melleebacca 22 August
Mardybum2017 25 August
MagnumAddict 1 September
MuvaWifey77 17 September

Hi all. I had a horrible last night - no vomiting thakfully but it was close - with the worst headache I've ever had (cheek and jaw bones hurt as well as head and feyes feeling like they wanted to explode). I'm guessing it means I'd overdone it but I'd been careful to have lots of rest periods. If it was me overdoing it, it makes me rethink whether I am ready to go back even for afternoons... Have listened to my body and had lots of rest, even if I'm still struggling to actually sleep. I'm trying not to worry about the meeting as I already have another doctors note if I need it and I'm seeing the mental health mw on Mon who will hopefully back me up too.

As for moving, we have a viewing a week on Monday and we have advanced warning of another likely candidate that will be posted next week too, so we'll see. I'm hoping we can find somewhere and move April/May as I don't relish being heavily pregnant and moving if we can help it.

Sorry to those who are suffering badly.

Four: I really hope I don't have to have a gtt as it's sounds awful. Glad you surviced it tho.

Blondes: that sounds horrible. I hope the exorcist style sickness stops. I bet you're counting down the day now.

Blah: I'm glad things are a little better. I will keep my fingers crossed and thoughts positive that you soon find something you can eat and drink without vomiting like I did and that you find a dr who is helpful.

Take care everyone and I hope your weekends are going well.

LightTripper - hope you're busy loving your little one and eating all the food!

Haich - even without vomiting, the nausea, weight loss and general yuckiness makes it hard to do anything. I waited a month after I thought I was ready to return to work last time, so I was well rested. I had a good GP who just asked how long I wanted to be signed off for. Good luck with MMH too, hope the counseling helps you.

Flutey - I feel best when I wake up with an empty belly in the morning and everything I eat and drink after that makes me feel gross. It's just super important to get the liquids in to keep you outta hospital. The plainer the food, the less yuck I feel, maybe try salty crisps and crackers etc. the most boring of foods.

Blah - oh how I feel for you! You seem to be in an awful position with unsympathetic doctors and what not. I hope you find someone with a heart of gold who can give you all the meds and support you need.

I'm surviving down here. Almost passed out at the mall this morning, my hair hasn't been brushed in weeks so I look a fright and hubby has run out of food options for me and is dragging me to the supermarket this afternoon so I can pick and choose what I can eat. Wish we were in the states though and I could have a mobility trolley 🤣

Hope light is a mummy 👶🏼👶🏼👶🏼👶🏼👶🏼

And that makes me top of the list !!!!!

excited aqueak

I have 2 happy healthy cyclizine babies so I echo Lucinda's safety comments.

I'm a veteran and not having any more children but I was also pleased to see it's getting some coverage in the press. Kate Middleton had it when I had it and I found it helped with people's understanding of it. What do current sufferers think?

Still no news from light? Aw, I hope she's in a lovely new born duh :)

Hey Flutey, welcome to the club. Pull up a bucket. Sorry to hear you've already been in hospital.

blah sorry you hear you're still struggling so much, have you found anything to drink yet? Have any of Lucinda's suggestions helped?

twinkle I'm another mother-to-be running on cyclazine and hope! I tried dropping them a few weeks ago. Baaaad idea. I'll be sticking with them for the duration. They worked for me (mostly) but didn't always stop the vomit. I had massive food aversions and I'm normally not a fussy eater at all (quite the opposite - hence the GTT test!!!) The first 15 weeks or so I lived on buttered toast, mashed potato, rice (although I appear to have been lucky as most people struggle with that) chips and Rowntrees fruit pastille ice lollies. I ate TINY quantities too. A few slices of toast a day, a handfull of mash or so. Smelling my husband cooking meat or fish made me retch until I vomited and any type of fruit or veg came back up. Raw or cooked. Around 16 weeks I found I could tolerate more but it was all still shit food. Jam doughnuts, crisps, more chips featured heavily. After about 21/22 weeks (when I went back to work) I found I could tolerate raw veg and crunchy fruit, baked beans, egg and small amounts of cheese. Still couldn't tolerate milk, yoghurt or food in lots of sauce though. That's kind of where I still am. My portions have increased though and I've started to gain weight again. Baby is fine, growing beautifully. Try not to worry :)

Mellee good luck with the supermarket. I think I'd try and steer clear of the fresh food aisles though. The smell of perfectly innocuous food (like fresh bread!) can seem offensive. I had a very low tolerance for food shopping and used to retreat outside after not very long. I hope you find it easier :)

blondes I'm sorry to hear you're in pain with your feet and legs. It certainly can't be helping the exorcist style voms to crouch in pain :( BUT TOP OF THE LIST!!! After 11 years what's a few more short weeks I know, I know, they won't feel that short

Haitch if there is any niggle that you aren't ready, you probably aren't... I know that might not be what you want to hear, and I know it just adds to "the guilt" but, you need to take care of you as best you can

Right, well, that's a bit of an essay... short and sweet from me. I feel sick. Plus ça change...

four I know !!! Can't believe I will be a mummy in a few weeks 💓👶🏼💓👶🏼💓

More sick last night :( Christ knows what is happening - another hormone surge?? Even df said how can you be sick again. You were sick this morning .....

The crouching /kneeling is hard with fat ankles /adema to give it its medical name

Df said next time throw up in bathroom sink - but th thought of then clearing /pushing puke down the plug hole ......
Sorry Tim

Welcome newbies. Sorry on phone so can't name check easily

Hg is a battle but you eat and drink what you can. I can't stomach rice but seems @four can 😃

Over the months you will claw your way up the list and eventually see the light at the end of the tunnel and the wonderful pink castle

Hi ladies can I join and ask for some advice? I'm pregnant with my 2nd, currently 5+4. I had HG in my last pregnancy over 3 years ago and am starting to feel nauseous. I'm managing as long as I eat something but I have to eat every hour and I'm worrying it's going to get worse.

Is it too early to get sickness meds? Last time I wasn't bad enough to be admitted but I was signed off for 3 months and it was frankly horrendous. I can't go through that again, not with a toddler. None of the medications worked, in the end it started to get better by itself after 20 weeks.

Morealin Get yourself to a GP first thing Monday. The sooner you get the drugs, the sooner they can start working. Take the NICE guidelines (which advocate early medication) if there's any doubt in your mind that your GP won't be supportive. I think pre-emptive medications are often supposed to help too... Lucinda?

fourcorneredcircle Nearly cross posted. No news about LightTripper yet. I so agree about pre-emptive meds for Moralin.
Moralin Welcome. Sorry you feel so bad. Do go for pre-emptive meds. New research seems to indicate that the sooner it is treated, the less likely you get that neurological thing where vomiting becomes a reflex.
If they refuse, try ringing Pregnancy Sickness Support on 024 7638 2020.
They will ring you back with great advice about obtaining meds. As you're a veteran, I'm sure you don't need advice about obtaining kesostix, etc, from a chemists. Are juice and fruit of tinned fruit, especially peaches and pears, flat full sugar coke, sips of chocolate milkshake (perhaps soya), ice lollies, Dr Pepper, soda water, Elderflower water, nibbles of crisps, cuppa soup or slices of melon, jelly or cheap ice cream any use?
Ooh, and chips, as fourcorneredcircle says. It's very hard to cope with a toddler and this. Have you got childcare or supportive relatives/friends?
Maskatti Welcome, and thank you for such a wonderful supportive message. Some do worry about taking any meds, but cyclizine has been used for thirty or forty years...
HaichM I do hope all goes well with the mental health midwife, the move, and the assessment at work. If you have another sick note they can hardly force you back. Poor old you about headache. There seems to be some nasty virus going about with cold and headache symptoms that lasts on and off for some weeks; but with Hyperemesis it's so hard to say; Mother Hen does hope it's not dehdyration.
Great advice from fourcorneredcircle and Melleebacca.
Blondes Sorry over vomiting. Top of the list indeed. Here we are again.

Due Dates
Blondes 30 March
HurryUpApril17 17 April
NerrSnerr 18 April
Castlefeck 19 April
moonoverthewater 10 May
user1477 14 May
IAmSeriousAndDontCallMeShirley 20 May
Robber Bride 29 May
LHReturns 1 June
PeaceLove 3 June
Boobs 6 June
South London 6 June
fourcorneredcircle 7 June
Pastiemaid 12 June
squeezypeasy 13 June
Babyand 23 June
Captain Warbeck 24 June
HollyHop17 20 July
whoate 1 August
HaichM 1 August
SociallyAcceptableCookie 5 August
JimmyJay Early August
Daffodil 11 August
SickRose 18 August
Pip1982 20 August.
Melleebacca 22 August
Mardybum2017 25 August
MagnumAddict 1 September
MuvaWifey77 17 September

@morealin def get to gp and start drugs

I didn't know as never been preg before if my sickness was normal ms - and suffered till 8w

Tested ketones and saw gp and got cyczline

I have some spare if anyone wants some as my gp gave me double supply

My SIL has worried me about the meeting, saying it can look bad if you say no to the reduced hours, like you're not keeping your end of the bargain. She said that where she is they want you back, even if its only 2 hours a day. I guess we'll see what they say but it's worried me when I was all prepared just to explain the situ and give the sick note and try again in 2 weeks...

Still only having 3 hours sleep a night and no real relief during the day, despite how often I lie down to rest. I'm so tired but I have managed to eat a Sunday dinner so that's something.

Hi to the newcomers.

Daffodil: thanks for the kind wishes and same to you. I hope your HG is improving.

MamaB: that's good news about the dates. I was the same - such a relief to be a week further ahead and to see baby doing well.

Oh and I finally heard about physio - I need to see 2 separate people, one for my back and one for my suspected SPD - but not until April, which seems ages away. Tbh Thurs and my full body massage seems ages away atm.

Something good has also happened tho: I've started feeling baby kicking my hand when it's very low lying, which is pretty cool, and I had a good catch up with a friend yesterday, which included some lovely belated Christmas and birthday gifts.

HaichM I'm sure your SIL means it kindly - but if you are still too ill to go back to work, I don't see how it can 'look bad' with a sick note advising that you are too ill to work at all? Good news about kicks (that is the only circumstances in which a sane woman will enjoy a kick!) and Sunday dinner.

Sorry, typo! It should read, 'circumstance'.

Blondes - when my stepmum had HG, she had a resealable container to vom it and then left it for my dad to clean when he got home from work.

Haitch - I can't believe theyre making you wait so long for your appts. That's just a bit harsh when you're in pain. I find pain makes HG worse too. Thinking positive thoughts for your meeting.

Morealin - get pre emptive meds. I was on ondansetron with my first pregnancy and I'm now almost 16w along with my second, and the vomiting has been much more reduced this time around. I've been taking ondansetron since I got nauseous, and I never got stuck in the vomiting loop where I couldn't stop for days like last time. So I managed to narrowly avoid rehydration (had a few days where I had enough ketones but they went down quickly).

Four - the supermarket was awful. It was busy (I usually go on weekdays), I was tired, and due for more meds while I was there. I don't think I've got any new appealing foods so still stuck on the same old boring crap. Oh well.

Blondes and Melleebacca I missed that. Obviously, thinks you are having too much fun ,being sick not once,but twice a day! I agree that anyone who says that deserves to be made to rinse out sick bowls. It is awful when it comes back badly near the end.