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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 26/11/2016 19:20

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk

If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

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fourcorneredcircle · 23/01/2017 10:43

Lucy you really have been put through the mill with this pregnancy and birth. Flowers

Please allow me a moment of indulgence everyone with the attached picture... everything looks good, anterior placenta so good reason for feeling no movements. I wasn't even sick on the sonographer. Today is a good day. Grin

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Kayleighann · 23/01/2017 12:03

Hi I hope u don't mind me joining u.
I am feeling absolutely terrified at the moment.
I was pregnant 2 years ago and had horrendous hyperemises, I terminated the pregnancy at 8 weeks as I couldn't cope any longer Sad
I found out a few days ago I'm pregnant. I was so happy at first but now the panic has set in.
I feel ok so far but I know at about 6 weeks the sickness will start. I've hardly slept the last few days I have really bad anxiety about what's to come.
I have never suffered with panic/anxiety but I'm really freaking out about hyperemissis.
Please tell me it's going to be ok Sad
I know I want this baby but i forget I'm pregnant and just can't see past the horrendous time I've got ahead of me.

HaichM · 23/01/2017 12:32

Kayleighann: I'm really sorry you had such a difficult time last time. I can't promise this time will be any better if you get hyperemesis again but you won't be alone becauase we're all going through some version of it and hating it.

You need to go to your Drs and find a GP who is appropriately sympathetic and get some pre-emptive meds. It's the meds, rest and the ladies here who will help you get through those first horrible months. Be honest qith Drs and midwives about your concerns and moods so they can give you the relevant support, help and reassurance. You can do it, you just have to look after yourself and try and forget what you think pregnancy should be like. Also, the second time around might be different. My hypermesis is very different this time around. I know that even though I'm miserable and struggling that I will survive and that when I hold my child at the end of it all, it will have been worth it.

Poppyred85 · 23/01/2017 12:33

Socially I don't know how much you can eat currently but if you can manage it I found bran muffins helpful. Easier to eat than a bowl of cereal with milk (made me vomit) and more palatable than dry bran on its own. I can dig out the recipe if you like- I made sure it had the highest amount of bran I could find. Fig rolls were good too but again probably depends how much you're managing.

LucindaE · 23/01/2017 13:29

kayleighann Welcome. I do remember a kayleigh on here, but it probably wasn't you? I am sorry that you had to terminate before; I suggest you phone 024 7638 2020 for advice on getting meds asap (they will have to phone you back, but they will, and they have helped lots of women on here. I so agree with others; you've had great advice already, about making a dr's appointment and explain how you didn't want to terminate but felt forced to last time. Also, just in case you need them, do invest in some kesostix to check for dehydration. If things do get bad, remember the first tri is the worst. Almost nobody feels as bad later on.
Lucy and Blondes It's a grey castle for you atm, but things will get better; can't not!
Poppy Good advice. My Grandmother used to make 'bran cakes'.
fourcorneredcircle What a nice photo. It must be alarming not to feel movements; so glad that you got confiirmation as to why.

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LucindaE · 23/01/2017 13:30

HaichM I meant to say, great advice.

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Blondeshavemorefun · 23/01/2017 14:37

FOUr. A lovely scan pic and extra bonus not being sick on scan lady

Kayleigh. Medication rest /sleep make all the difference. 6/7am to 1/2pm
Was my worst time. Luckily I work nights so would leave work. Throw up in bag in car /on drive etc and stagger to bed and lie as quiet and still as possible and that made the afternoon better

Can you talk to doctor. Assume last preg /termination. Is on your notes and can verify what you say. Getting medication early is the key

I waited till think 8/9w as never been preg before and didn't know how bad morning sickness was. Or was it hg

I suffered from 4/5w till time above. So sick every 10/15 times a day. Constant retching. Bile etc. Got medication and although still sick very day was better

Had sympathetic doctor who looked at me. Agreed hg. Did Ketones and almost 3 and said need to drink or eat more or would be in hospital

I never made the magic 3. Always 2.5ish but those who do go to hospital then say they feel better due to fluids

Don't suffer alone

If you work try to work less /give up/work from
Home etc. That all helps

I will never get preg again

Mammabear13 · 23/01/2017 16:34

Hi. I'm new. This thread looks great

This is my second pregnancy - I had hg last time round the whole way through. I am 6w 5 and have been on cyclizine for 2 weeks, it's helps reduce sickness to about 10 times a day but I am feeling horrendous. Keep thinking I can't do this, it seems a never ending stretch until making it through the pregnancy & I have a lively 3 year old I am supposed to be looking after. How do I do this?!

Thanks

Melleebacca · 23/01/2017 17:56

Hi Mumma - this is my second HG pregnancy too. I'm 10w today with an energetic 15month old. The advice I have, is take it one day at a time and get all the help you can. I'm only at home alone with my DD one or two days a week, every other day we have visitors to play and distract her.

Can't remember who was asking about constipation - finally got some relief last night. I'm on two tabs of laxol, prunes when I can manage them and warm baths. I highly recommend lactulose tho. I had that last time around and would be able to go within an hour of taking it.

Feeling ok so far, but have just woken up. Got a bit more sleep than normal, so hoping I'm on the way to recovery. DD has her jabs tomorrow, so I'm freaking out a bit. She's really good about them, but gets really precious and clingy. Hubby is going to work from home to help me out.

LucindaE · 23/01/2017 19:49

Mammabear13 Welcome. It's very brave of you to go for it again. You'll find lots of support on here. As you are a veteran, I won't say my usual speel about have you got kesostix to test for dehydration. If you are still so ill, do ask for extra/other meds. There are others they can try if these don't suit you. How do you find elderflower water, chocolate milkshakes (maybe non dairy), the fruit and juice of tinned fruit, flat coke, ice lollies or ice cubes?
Also, cuppa soup or nibbles of crisps, jelly or frozen melon?
Melleebacca Lactulose - that' s the name I was looking for. I think it was Socially who asked about constipation cures and I'd forgotten that name and could only recommend the jelly suppositories.
Blondes Reading that, congratulations on keeping on working. You are very determined. How are you of late?
I hope everyone is coping.

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Blondeshavemorefun · 23/01/2017 20:46

AHEM. I said lactulose yonks ago but to get someone else to buy it for you 😛😛😛

Mama bear. Welcome and yes tough and cyczline helped me tho still was very sick

Looking back maybe I should have got extra drugs as many of the ladies have on here

But did improve at 14&20w

Tho I didn't seem as bad as some on here

Lucinda. Think I have to officially give up work as parents look at me and my varying bump and worry I will go into labour earlier then planned

Thing is im bored !!!! Still have 8/9w to go

whoateallthejaffacakes · 23/01/2017 20:51

today has been a fab day! started the day with two bourbon biscuits and some water, two hours later i was fit enough to leave the house with toddler. managed to keep lunch & dinner down along with a much needed bowel move. cannot believe how good i feel but petrified tomorrow will be awful to compensate. will have to try the bourbon biscuit again tomorrow to see if that's my secret.

Melleebacca · 23/01/2017 20:58

Blondes - time for crafts! Because babies need things like handmade artwork etc 🤣

Whoate - go you! That's so awesome. Turning the blessed corner.

SociallyAcceptableCookie · 23/01/2017 23:27

Thanks everyone for constipation advice. I don't need another thing to deal with on top of everything else and this is so frustrating. Last night I really understood why people go to a&e with constipation. It's good to know I can use suppositories and lactulose, so thanks Lucinda, blondes, and mellee.

Poppy that's very kind if you to offer the recipe but I'm not really up to baking and eating muffins these days.

IAmSeriousAndDontCallMeShirley · 24/01/2017 07:45

Morning everyone.

Wow, lots to catch up on.

My GP prescribed me suppositories at the same time as the ondansetron, saying you'll need to start issuing these to avoid a problem. Really glad he did as they worked a treat.

Glad to hear of bourbon success, I hope you make it 2 days of success. :)

Sorry I haven't written more personal replies. I had a bit of a scare with the baby, and had to get checked over. Long story, but basically I had a moderate allergic reaction to my whooping cough vaccine, and then the baby didn't move for 2 days after at all. Got me really scared! But thankfully all is ok, baby's heart beating away beautifully.
When I got home I just slept and slept ad I had to been too worried to do so the previous 2 nights.

I hope everyone has good days today, I'm on my train, outfit intact! Xx

pip1982 · 24/01/2017 08:07

Four What a lovely scan!!!! Kayleigh I'm sorry that you're having such a bad time, the ladies here are the best at wonderful advice and support so you're in the right place. Hugs.
Hi Everyone, I went back to work yesterday so i've been quiet on the posting front. I'm going to read back the posts and catch up. I'm pleased to say I'm still only being sick once a day although I do feel like the nausea is getting worse! I didn't even think that was possible.....

Mammabear13 · 24/01/2017 08:40

Thanks for all the replies. Relieved I'm feeling better than yesterday which was particularly rough.

Can anyone advise what other medications I can try/take with the cyclizine? I wasn't offered anything else last time round and I asked yesterday at the doctors but all she was willing to do was give Peptac (a Gaviscon equivalent) and if I'm not better in a week give Ranitidine. I'm not really feeling any heartburn/indigestion symptoms and am a bit frustrated.

Melleebacca It's nice we're not too far apart in pregnancy - have you seen the midwife yet? Also did you find weeks have been 8-10 worse? I'm worrying the hormone surge is going to make it worse! My lg goes to nursery 3 days a week which gives me a break but i dread Tuesdays and Wednesdays as I'm on my own with her all day. She's very good and she knows about the baby and is quite understanding that it makes me poorly but still gets very antsy as she wants me to play with her. Am going to try taking her out later this morning.

Lucinda I actually don't know what kesostix are? I find iced water and ice lollies are great and also lucozade sport on my better days. Struggle with dry mouth from the cyclizine but the ice is best for that. Might try soup, I'm finding I just don't want anything to eat, everything seems impossible to manage.

Blondes and Pip I am amazed that you are working - Wow!

fourcorneredcircle · 24/01/2017 09:24

Welcome Mamma & Kayleigh, I second getting your hands on some medication ASAP. There's no reason we should suffer without support. Mamma kesostix are available from the pharmacy, you use them to test your urine for dehydration level. Anything above 3 needs immediate medical intervention (normally at early pregnancy unit, intravenous fluids and monitoring) .

Thanks for the nice comments about scan. We are team surprise but I think I saw meat and two veg... in my head up until that moment I was sure it was a girl (probably based on old wives tales about vomit!). Now I am unsure.

blondes sorry to hear that work has dried up and you're bored... I can offer you work as a night nurse for my two cats if you like... they have woken me up every couple of hours for the last two weeks... I tried CC but they trashed the carpet outside our bedroom door Grin

whoateallthebourbons glad yesterday went well... dare I ask how today is shaping up?

shirley that does sound scary... glad to hear all is well though.

Pip back to work, well done! Today is my last full day off. I should be back on my normal timetable by Monday. Thank god the school are paying for supply until Feb half term none the less though - I'm still a long way from being in control of my vomit!

Blondeshavemorefun · 24/01/2017 09:24

SHIRLEY. Scares are awful. Had one at xmas but soon as at triage and plugged in bubs heart was beating away - glad your baby is ok and your heard the heart

Mama. If I worked days I would have had to not work. I'm self employed so pick and chose but generally work nights as a maternirg night nanny bubs will be the one baby I can't train to sleep 😳🌟😴

I also lived off chicken Cupa soup and bagels for many weeks as well as downtree ice lollies on days I literally could eat but needed liquid

Blondeshavemorefun · 24/01/2017 09:26

Four 😬😬 - I'm allergic to cats pmsl or else would have said yes 😂😂

whoateallthejaffacakes · 24/01/2017 11:08

bourbons appear to be doing the trick again this morning, a little dizzy on my feet but no vom or nausea yet. hoping this is the key for me & will soon have shares in them

Kayleighann · 24/01/2017 11:37

Thx for all ur replies. I have been To drs and have metoclopramide, have not taken any yet as feel ok so far but have them at the ready.
I have 2 children already and have been admitted to hospital in both pregnancy, second pregnancy was a lot worse. I was in and out hospital most of my pregnancy. I was on metoclopramide and ondaistron and it didn't help at all.
I was admitted to hospital in last pregnancy and was in there for 2 weeks while they tried to stabilise me. The sickness just wouldn't stop no matter wat drugs they pumped in me. It got to the point I just couldn't cope any longer.

One minute I feel excited I'm pregnant the nxt minute I'm in full panic thinking of the sickness.
Going to ring sickness support today.

MrsPinkKitten · 24/01/2017 12:16

Time for me to make an introduction after having a little read for a few days... been in two minds about posting as feel I can't offer much in the way of help- just a self pity party! Also been doubting if I meet the full guidelines definition of hyperemesis...

Second pregnancy. 6+4. DS 2.5 (no hyperemesis in that pregnancy). High risk pregnancy due to bicornuate uterus.

Been vomiting at least three times a day for the past three weeks. It's really stepped up the last week though- nauseous all day, not holding anything down, vomiting 7/8+ times a day despite cyclizine....lost about 2.5kg which is very nearly the 5% that stuff seems to quote.

Ice seems to be ok. And apples straight from the fridge. But everything I try seems to just come back up. Has anyone tried meal replacement drinks?

Already been admitted for IVs once. Have an early scan booked for the morning and will be trying to get some other meds then too.

Can I join the club?

Kayleighann · 24/01/2017 14:48

I have spoken to pregnancy support and they have said to start taking the sickness medication now before it starts.
Has anyone on here taken premptive meds? Did it help?
I feel a bit nervous about taking sickness tablets before sickness has started.

LightTripper · 24/01/2017 15:39

Hi Mamma and kayleigh and Norbert everybody else with second time sickness or thinking of trying again (sorry if I got any names mixed up!)

I had nasty sickness with my DD, and then again with a MMC and just now with my current pregnancy (now at the top of the due dates list and feeling relieved/smug - if you need to virtually hit me please feel free!)

I found it harder this time in terms of not having that hope that it would be over soon, and also in feeling like a crap mum to my DD because for weeks and weeks I just couldn't really do anything with her as I had to be horizontal as soon as I got home from work or I'd be vomiting all afternoon/evening.

However, the one positive is that you know what to expect so you can get on the drugs much quicker, and be much quicker to go back if things don't seem to be helping enough (and still throwing up 10 times a day is not "helping enough" in my book - I was never that sick!) It does depend a lot on having a good and supportive GP though, so I very much second the advice that if your GP won't help you with different drugs you need to call the number at the top of this thread and get their advice on who you could go to see locally who will help you. The other way to get proper help is less ideal, but a lot of people here have found they finally got proper treatment after being hospitalised. Obviously that means getting really ill first so it's not ideal, but it's a good reason to get ketostix so at least if you are dehydrated you will know and that should get you into the hospital, where you have a better chance of being prescribed more effective pills.

With my DD I was given prochlorperazine (I think) by my GP, but I wasn't given very good advice on how to take them, so just took them here and there when e.g. I had a meeting I didn't want to physically throw up in, and taken like that (one every 2 or 3 days) they did nothing for me at all. So I gave up on them and then was too sick to have the energy to go back to the Doctors, so I just kind of sleepwalked through the sickness, not realising how much better things could have been if I'd been given the right drugs.

This time, knowing how bad it was likely to be, I got cyclizine very early on (actually from a nurse sonographer ... you never know who can help you - so make sure everyone knows you are struggling!), which seemed to help for a week or two, and then when that stopped being enough I got metoclopramide from the GP as well and took the two together until about mid-way (I kept trying to reduce my dose earlier and regretting it). I also got better advice on taking them (3 a day, spread through the day, so they can build in your system) and although it was all still pretty bloody miserable it was so much better than first time. Since then it's just been a grind: I've been nauseous in the afternoons/evenings throughout, but just to a boring level since about 20 weeks - occasional retch but no throwing up any more and I very rarely even worry that I might as it's so much less intense than it was.

I think also knowing that (all being well with the pregnancy) it would be my last time this time really helped. I have said to myself "I never have to do this again" so many times and I think it has kept me sane.

Rest definitely makes a difference too. I was less busy at work this time so able to go home a bit early and sleep through the worst part of the day (afternoons/evenings for me). I definitely noticed when I was busier at work the sickness got even worse. I know for SAHMs and with some jobs this may not be an option: but for most employers it is much better to lose you in a planned way for a few hours each day than for you to push too hard and end up in hospital.

Lucy I'm so sorry you are still suffering. Any news on the infection? Are they able to treat you at home?

P.S. had our growth scan yesterday and all looks good despite the single umbilical artery - which is further proof that you should always listen to Lucinda. She knows.

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