Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk

If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Thanks everyone. Feels better just knowing there's loads of us going through it, in a twisted way. Jelly has been a good one for me so far, I'll try some of the other suggestions. And I'll get some ketostix too. Yeah I was quite surprised this morning when they recommended I go home with my cyclizine. They had been talking about changing me to something else. If I wasn't so exhausted I probably would've questioned it. I'll mention it to my gp.

Hi all, unfortunately I ended up being admitted to hospital yesterday as I couldn't keep anything at all down and was severely dehydrated. I've had 4 bags of fluid, injection, cocktail of Meds and I feel almost human!!! Still feel very sick but for the first time in weeks I didn't spend the morning over the toilet for ages. I know this feeling will fade however they are discharging me on medication so fingers crossed eh?!

Pip1982 Oh no, you poor thing! I do hope they send you home with some effective meds and am glad that at least you feel a bit better after the fluids. For how long were you really bad before you went in?
SickRose I hope you can get something that helps a bit more. My sufferings were long since (my daughter's at university now) and these days I function as Mother Hen, but I haven't forgotten how awful it is...

LucindaE It had been on and off for a few days, but then then whole night/morning before I went into hospital I couldn't even manage sips. they said my Ketones (I think that's right?) were 4 but they are down to 2 now. As I'm eating and drinking they're happy to send me home

no symptoms yday or today, although i didnt feel like eating anything other than a small dinner & just some dilute juice this morn. panicking slightly (12wks)

Pip1982 I'm glad you got some effective treatment. People on here often leave it to the point where you become confused, and at that point, they find it hard to accept that they are very ill.
whoate It's probably only a good day - it can make sufferers panic when the symptoms suddenly ease.

Pip - so glad you got help and are feeling better. It's amazing what some fluids and meds can do.

Whoate - don't stress too much about having a good day, just enjoy it. Your 12w scan must be coming up soon and hopefully that will reassure you

I'm surviving, just. Hubby is working from home today, so if I need help with DD, he's there. Yesterday had to listen to DD cry in her cot while I threw up as couldn't comfort her and puke at the same time. Manage to keep dinner down for the first time in 2 weeks. Down 3.5kgs so far. Looking forward to making it to 12w, as I would like to start having some puke free days soon!

Hi everyone,
lucindaE just to say a big thank you for being our cyber Mother Hen even though you are no longer attached to a sick bucket! You keep us going :-)
mellee great news about keeping a meal down, hope this is the first of several more as you go along. Really feel for you about your DD, it's ever so tough not to have the energy to be the mum we want to be. I try and give my dd extra cuddles when not feeling pukey, to the point now where she's like 'get off I want to go over there!!' Lol. Last night I was praying I'd get to the end of her lullaby at bedtime before my tummy turned itself inside out, not sure how soothing the song ended up. Ah well bit by bit we're getting there. And in a few years they can gang up together against us parents and it will all be worth it!!
Have been encouraged by comments encouraging to rest, feel like a slacker after 2 days off, but I do need it, you just can't push through this.
Hi to sickrose hope you are starting to feel a little better and keeping the meds down. It might be that cyclazine isn't enough though. I was transferred from cyclazine to ondansetron which worked better. Cyclazine just made me more sleepy but just as pukey.
Waves to all xxx

Evening all,

Will catch up on all the chat later.

Just wanted to let you know about my day...

It did not start well when I was sick on my commute in. I tried to get a sock bag in time, but only half got here so lots of sick down my clean trousers. Cleaned up with tissues as best I could.
When I got into work in tried to wash them a bit in the sink...
my boss asked what had happened to my trousers, so I told her. She looked disgusted!
Survived the day, but been a really rough one. Had lots on at work so only just getting a train now (having left at 06:00).
I have a feeling tomorrow is going to be a hard one. I'm off work tomorrow but do have to look after my daughter.

So now I have just boarded a train with my icky trousers. Hoping I won't stand the whole way! Xx

Mellee Glad you managed to keep a meal down, may it be the first of many. I hope you find some improvement at 12 weeks. Although it was 18 weeks for me before I did. Urgh. It's hard with little ones but they won't remember this.

Jaffacakes Don't worry, I had the odd day (or half day) like that too. And naturally freaked out, but now 23 weeks and enormous! Enjoy the odd good moment.

Pip most of us (myself included) have found that admission is a real turning point. Having a chance to have the Meds IV and some fluids helps reset and allow you to keep tablets down thus stopping the cycle. I hope it does the trick for you too.

Waves to our lovely mother hen and everyone else I have overlooked.

Finally have a seat. Hallelujah. Xx

Hello all

Mellee: I lost about 10kg at the start I think. According to the scales at the mw last week I'm not losing still but I don't know how that's possible as I'm probably just managing to eat as much as my 5yr old. It is hard feeling this crappy with a child around. I'm not sure how I'd manage if my ds was younger and needed me more.

Shirley: sorry to hear about your trousers. Hope your return journey was better. I am not looking forward to my 45min bus commute when it starts again.

Pip: glad you got some well-needed rest and fluids. Hope things get a bit better.

Rose: sorry you're having to join us. I second the possibility that cyclizine won't be enough. I'm also on ondansetron - it helps keep food down but that's about it. Make sure you rest a lot. I am on week 3 of a 4 week sicknote and I had the 2 weeks of Christmas off -I have spent most of it in bed, or on the sofa in a reclining or horizontal position.

Can I just add, as well has hating the thirst, I'm getting really fed up of just feeling so crap all the time. DH announced last night that he's fed up and really frustrated and needs me to do more. I've managed some washing up and a load of washing today but I just want to curl up until it all goes away .

Oh Haich! - sorry your husband is not as sympathetic as he should be. I keep crying to hubby about how useless I am and he tells me how amazing I am.
10kg is a lot! I lost 6kg with DD (about 10%), so I'm on track to do the same.

So tired today. Can barely move.

Oh Haich! - sorry your husband is not as sympathetic as he should be. I keep crying to hubby about how useless I am and he tells me how amazing I am.
10kg is a lot! I lost 6kg with DD (about 10%), so I'm on track to do the same.

So tired today. Can barely move.

Thank you all so much for your advice. Thanks to it I've managed to have quite a good day today. I ditched water and have been drinking orange juice which has made so much of a difference. Took my tablet when I woke up and then went back to sleep for an hour or so, when I woke up I didn't feel too bad. Even managed to have some friends round and be suitable company this evening! Had a phone call with my gp this morning and she asked me how long I wanted to be signed off for. I said a week but now I'm wondering if I should've asked for more after seeing how long some of you have been off for. But I guess I'll just have to see how I am at the end of next week.

Sickrose. Get tablets in regularly. I did every 8hrs and if awake early for a wee (often) then take 7am at 3:4am

6am 1pm 9pm

And lie still. Once furry dose in it really helps

Four. The hall episode sounds bad :( always carry bin with you if literally can't run to loo

Dentist - I went early preg and said no to X-ray. He said my teeth enamel wasn't great. I said from being so sick

Not meant to have fillings while preg so if anyone needs one wait till baby born

Pip. Sorry you are in hospital but best place for you and to rehydrate body

Shitkey. Poor you and horrible boss. Maybe have spare clothes at work /with you

Haich. Horrible dh. 😡😡You can't help being sick. 💐💐No way men would cope with what we do !!!

Weird what some can cope - me. I'm a water girl. Oj made me very very sick when had to make bubs turn for scan. Yet rose drinks it easily

All good here 30w tomorrow. Dare I say I might survive the next 9/10w till bubs is born .......

I think one of the worst things about HG is that we go on feeling so flat and crappy for so long and some people just lose patience with us and we add guilt to our struggles. Guilt over how bad company we are, guilt over how we don't have the energy or attention for our children, guilt over just 'lying around' all the time and not doing loads of housework, guilt over not being at work, guilt over letting things slip or slide and just wanting to stay in bed or on the sofa...etc etc.

I even feel guilty that I want to moan a lot and feel so down and miserable when I'm not technically suffering as much, especially in terms of vomiting, as many of you. Been sick for the second time this week and again I was hung over the toilet until it was just bile and I couldn't seem to bring any more of that up. Had myself a cuddle (not a euphemism) with DH on the sofa and a little cry. Apologised for being so useless and he again repeated it wasn't my fault but it doesn't really make me feel better if he is that frustrated and struggling when I know I'm going to go on feeling this crappy and not really wanting to do anything for weeks yet.

Had DS to myself after school today so I had some cuddles and used it as a chance to remember why I'm feeling so crappy. I told him about the scan appt next week and how he'll have a new picture of his baby b or s and it will show him how much s/he has grown and that soon mummy's tummy will grow as baby grows and then he'll be able to feel him or her moving around and maybe even hear their heartbeat when they get big enough. This made him very happy and less annoyed that August is so far away...

Mellee: I hope you got to rest. I am still having trouble sleeping but did manage to nap for a little while around lunchtime.

Rose: I'm glad today has been a little better. You can always get more time off if you need it. I am jealous of your orange juice. Sometimes I can find something I can sip or drink more normally but they're usually not an all day every day kind of thing. I hope the orange juice keeps working.

I'm a bit worried that it didn't seem to like the tinned peaches much this morning, hoping it's just a one off as they and eating clementines are my main liquid sources...

Blondes: thanks for the info about the dentist. I will keep that in mind. DH had bad hangover at weekend, spent Sunday feeling very sorry for himself. I mentioned how many of you said HG is like a bad, extended hangover (I don't really get hangovers -maybe I don't drink enough) and he made a joke. Don't think it sunk in though. He was sweet while I had my little cry. Part of me wants to remind him he said it was his job to do everything at this point because I will be doing it when baby arrives but I don't think that would help right now.

I really want my runny nose and cough to go away. I'm sure they're not helping.

Oh and I got a phone call from the mw: apparently I have a UTI. It might be the same one I got in hosp as I haven't taken any meds for it, trying to concentrate on staying hydrated. Guess I'd better start trying to take them and keep them down though...

Night all. I'm wishing you all well

Evening all! I've had a bad couple of days and am feeling very sorry for myself at the moment! but knowing you're all out there really does make it better!

Welcome sick rose! Another vote echoing that you may need combo's of drugs...

FWIW I found a bit of toast and Marmite helped me keep tablets down? Strong flavours bizarrely seem to work. Though I wouldn't recommend it if you were in the "hate" camp before pregnancy

It's so difficult feeling so useless isn't it I've never apologised so much in my life to my DH and he's been absolutely incredible about it. How those of you with other children cope is beyond me. You deserve massive gold stars! I've heard it described as a combo of norovirus, sea sickness and the worst have you've ever had, all at once. I've found 'sceptics' get that it's more than just MS with that description!

Shirley your commute is really not brilliant is it...

Rose I've found the doctor super helpful with this - I've just rung as needed and extended sick note. When I was in first trimester I didn't know about this group and was MASSIVELY uninformed about HG. As a result I kept optimistically thinking it'd clear up in a week (bitter laugh). It was a pain for my work because it made it hard to plan cover - though they've been super understanding and Brilliant I hasten to add. So now I'm off again in 3rd trimester I said to them from the start that although the Dr was signing me off in 2 week blocks I suspected it would be longer. They've really appreciated that and have been able to get my maternity cover to start early. All that to say - first be aware that you may be off for weeks, and secondly if you've got a good relationship with your boss you might want to warn them off this so they aren't depending on each sick note as it were! Hope that makes sense

Night all, and crossing fingers for good wake ups for everyone!

Daffodil Thank you so much.
Melleebaccaand others It must be awful over having to comparatively neglect LO's, but they won't remember, from what I've seen on this thread.
Haichm That is a big weight loss. I so agree with Blondes. Men could never handle this.
IAmSerious Oh dear, much sympathy over the Commuting/ Sick onTrousers/Disgusted Looking Boss episode. One doesn't do this on purpose or through lack of willpower. I hope you have a better day today.

SickRose I am glad you got a sick note. So agree with others that you unfortunately will probably need to extend it. Rest as much as you can.
MamaErmintrude Sorry about bad days.
whoate How are things today?
Cyber pats on offer to all...I'll probably cross post.

Haich you're so right about the guilt, it's terrible isn't it? I've finally had the chance to look at the medication they've discharged me on;
ranitidine
Ondansetron
thiamine
cyclizine
metaclopromide

so far no sickness in two days, just feeling very sick.

Pip That is a fine cocktail, and I hope it settles things for you. It is unlucky so often they can work out a combination of meds that stop the vomiting or anyway massively reduce it, but they can't do away with the nausea, which is so miserable.

Hey everyone!
Haven't posted in a little while as I was concentrating on trying to do a bit more to prepare myself for going back to work this week (didn't happen). Sorry to hear some of you are feeling so rough! Hope it gets better asap!
Glad to hear the fluids and meds worked pip :)
I had a doctors appointment Wednesday to get more ondansetron and she basically told me they aren't necessarily safe to take, haven't been tested on humans, only rats/mice and that I should reduce how many I take/try to cut them out... anyone else been told that? She's the only doctor who's said this and it's made me paranoid not to take them!
So now I'm only taking them if I absolutely have to, which is making me feel a lot more sick :(

Anna - ondansetron is safe. Both of my parents have been on it in the last year. It's been around for years as an anti-enemic for chemo patients. There is some worry that it hasn't been fully researched in regards to being taken during pregnancy. In which case it's up to you to how you feel about taking it.

Managed 32hrs without puking and then bought dinner up spectacularly only 2mins after eating it. Also bought up 2nd dinner. DD is teething and only wants me. So over this 🤢

has anyone had any cravings/notions despite the hg? i took a notion yday for a mcdonalds 99p cheeseburger & my dad indulged me today dropping one off. even though i've felt rotten all day not fancy-ing any food it totally hit the spot and was so easy to eat, i could eat a couple more only i'd have to travel 20mins to get them. hopefully it stays down

Anna123 I really sympathise about being wary - and i don't think any woman likes taking drugs in pregnancy. Doctors only prescribe them when the risks of not taking them outweigh any minor statistical risks in not taking them -it is dangerous to be dehydrated for too long, both for mother and baby. There haven't been any really big scale surveys on the safety of Ondansetron in pregnancy, but there have been many minor ones.
Here's one:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/research/medications/einarson-2004-safety-ondansetron-in-pregnancy
There are many more to be found in the links in my introductory post.
To be honest, if a consultant has recommended Ondansetron, I don't think it is fair of your GP to make you nervous.
melleebacca Sorry to hear your parents have been ill, and of your poor DD teething, and that two dinners reappeared.