Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk

If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Hello everyone. I'm really sorry... I keep disappearing for days at a time. I came home from work early on Thursday after the disaster that was Wednesday and slept. Then after making it to work all day Friday - feeling completely normal and bubbly I came home and slept through until Saturday. Yesterday DH and I made a nine hour round trip to visit my poorly grandmother in hospital. The journey was very long, but I'm glad I went. I'm not sure she's going to make it :(

Today so far has been a two vomit day. I seem to have entered a point where I have two days of feeling good, one day of vomiting, one day recovering. Still, better than vomiting every day!

Also, I have my 20 week scan tomorrow, eek!

Jaffa I craved McDonalds chips (still do, if I'm honest). It's a such a common theme to want salty goodness crap!

Blondes That picture of your daughter is lovely, a real baby! Not a blob, an alien or a stringy monkey!

I've given up this afternoon. Couldn't eat my lunch. Shivering & nauseous. Sat sipping water. I'm glad it's not just me that assumed it would just go away as soon as the baby was born. It's definitely going though, just a bad day.

Lucy - you're doing so well! I remember the first 8w post partum with DD were tough with night sweats to get rid of all the hormones, but I was one of the lucky ones who could eat hours properly hours after giving birth - best hospital food ever. Keep up the good work. Also, definitely get something for bubbas reflux. My stepmum had 3 reflux-y babies after HG, and when she discovered the medication she said it was like raising different children.

Threw up late last night. Have stepmum staying so was in master bedroom instead of spare room and was so terrified of waking DD asleep in the nursery. But was horrifically loud and she slept through. Still clogged up the other end though.

Lucy I see now checking back that you are determinedly breast feeding - sorry, I missed that in my post about post partum Hyperemesis below. It is very hard, because if you vomit it and breast feed it is so difficult to avoid becoming dehydrated. Glad it is getting better for you. Glad your hair is returning, too. That is a huge amount of weight, my goodness. You and Blondes are the None Pissing The Pants Official Winners.
Socially Well done on attending that party.
Melleebacca Oh dear about bowels. Does that mean that the jelly suppositories don't work, or you would rather not use them? I knew a sufferer on here who actually managed to stomach fibre gel, goodness knows how. It makes me feel sick without Hyperemesis.
four Sorry about your Grandmother. That is always so upsetting, dreading losing someone. If the worst comes to the worst,it is weird, how an older person in a family often passes on just before a birth in that family. It happened in mine, and has happened to a number of pregnant women I have known, almost as if the two events are connected. The best of luck for your twenty week scan. Almost certainly you won't need it.
Waves to Pip Anna HaichM SouthLondon Daffodil and everyone. Apologies if I've rudely ignored anyone.

Sorry, haven't rift so it may already be on here but the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists brought out a new guideline in June for the management of HG. It's more up to date than the NICE one. Hopefully will be helpful for any of you struggling to get the right treatment.

Here's the link: www.rcog.org.uk/globalassets/documents/guidelines/green-top-guidelines/gtg69-hyperemesis.pdf

Hello, Poppy Thank you for posting. I have got a different form of that link up on my introductory post, but the more the merrier...

Poppy: thanks for that link. Very interesting. My PGUE (sp) varies between high moderate and severe but I like how they stress the mental health needs of women like us but at the same time I feel most probably don't receive the level of care they should.

Lucy: sorry to hear you're struggling even after the blessed pink castle. Part of me is going to pretend I haven't heard about the post partum possibilities as I'm holding on to the hope that my current situ will start to improve in the next few weeks. Love the BP story though.

Mellee: I'm the same. Thinking about bringing it up with the doc next week when I go to ask about my continued dizzy spells and headaches. Sending you my sympathies.

Four: sorry to hear about your grandmother and 2 vomit day. Glad you're getting the rest though.

Naturally today was not as good as yesterday. Major dizziness and headaches this morning and then we went out with the ILs for a birthday meal. It wasn't all that impressed with what I chose to eat, the dizzines came back but it waited all afternoon and I wasn't sick until 6pm when I tried having some cereal. Have since managed a crumpet and some clementines but today has just been a day of feeling like crap. Managed to help DS learn his spellings and read him a bed time story, which is something I suppose.

Hope everyone has had a good or at least restful day and welcome to the 3% of women who have HG (according to the above doc). The statistic does not make me feel special.

Lucinda, I missed your previous post for some reason, and Fours. I do actually feel worse after a feed, I hadn't put 2&2 together until now, so that's interesting. I've gone from topping up with formula to topping up with breast milk as I'm finding it so painful. My c section site is getting more & more painful & I've just been on the phone to 111 who have got me an appointment at 10 pm (urgh) they think I might have a streptococcus infection - joy 😩

Hello everyone,
HaitchhM how are you feeling? Think we might be about the same in terms of due dates. I'm feeling frustrated too about not being able to do much. Flat needs a good tidy for a start. Was meant to be taking dh out for his birthday tonight but cancelled cos feel mega nauseous so I'm flat on my back in the bedroom holding my nose while he's in the kitchen fixing himself some dinner. Not the most romantic evening!!
He is being sweet now, but yesterday when I asked if he could give dd breakfast instead of me he actually said 'sometimes you're so lazy' which I took mega offence at and summoned up enough energy to stomp out of the room and slam the door! We talked about it and it's ok now but I really think no one understands unless they've been through it, how tired and sick you feel
Lucy wow you seem to have had such a rough time, I really didn't know that sickness could go on after birth. You are doing absolutely amazing especially with the very real challenges to feeding you are facing. Hats off to you!
Really hope that your sickness disappears completely and can get those calories in. Don't know if this is helpful, my dd had bad reflux and eliminating dairy from my diet helped a lot. I eventually used soya formula too which you can get prescribed.
Blondes your daughter is gorgeous
I had a scan Friday, thought I would be 11 weeks +2, but they said by the size of the baby I am only 10+5 and I have to come back in 2 weeks for them to do all the tests. So don't have a due date yet, also not impressed that time seems to be going backwards!! Ah well patience, day at a time etc etc.
Waves to all xxx

Hi everyone, I posted this elsewhere but have followed the link to you guys! I was wondering if there's anything I can do to lessen the awful sickness if I have baby number 2? My first is now 20 months and I feel like it's time to at least consider a second but the endless nausea last time is really making me think one baby is enough! I was prescribed Sominex last time which took the edge off but I was constantly drowsy, still sick and couldn't drive. That's just not an option now - any alternatives? Could I pay to see a more knowledgable / sympathetic doctor with a second? Thanks in advance and big hugs to everyone who's currently in the grips of it on this thread

Evening all, this has dropped off my 'threads I'm on' again. So a quick post to get it back there. Will be back soon once I have caught up. Xx

Sorry missed last page four good on you for making it to see your grandmother. Sorry to hear she's so unwell.
mellee hope you're a bit more comfortable at both ends!
Lucy sorry to hear you are in such a lot of pain. Hope you can get the treatment you need for any infection. Forgot that of course BF is dehydrating. Hope you start feeling a bit more well and stronger soon. Xx
Hi to Lucinda, socially pip and anyone who hasn't posted for a while, hope you're ok xx

Daffodil: hi, how are you? I am slightly worried that when I go for scan on Tues they will tell me the same thing. I think I'm at 12 wks thanks to a scan I had when admitted but tbh that kind of means I conceived while on so it's likely I'll get the bad news. I feel like crap as well. My DH seems to alternate atm between thinking/acting like I'm lazy and then being appropriately sympathetic. It does not help. As you say, it's hard for people to understand how miserable and draining it is to have even a mild form of this day in and day out and when the one person you count on for emotional support is telling you off (or that's the way it feels) cos the washing up hasn't been done in 2 days...

Basically, I seem to be at a stage where I don't vomit a lot but I feel off at least and miserable. I also seem to want to cry a lot, these last few days, which has me a bit worried about the current state of my mental health.

Norbert: if you had it with child 1, you're 80% likely to get it again but there's lots of options meds wise. You shouldn't need to pay to see someone for info. If your GP can't give it to you, just keep trying different ones or ring the helpline number at the beginning of the thread.

Mama I second the marmite on toast, that and really strong salt and vinegar crisps. Strong flavours have been my only food!

Lucinda My weekend has been much better than the awful 'trouser day' thank you. I seem to find I'm worse on work days, and as the week progresses. Perhaps as I become more tired? I'm not sure.
Took my daughter swimming this morning and managed a few lengths myself which I enjoyed.
Fingers crossed for a smooth work day tomorrow.

Blondes My goodness, what a gorgeous scan picture! She's really beautiful.

Four Sorry to hear about your poorly grandma, it's never an easy time- well
done for managing the journey

Lucy it sounds like you are having the most terrible time. I'm so sorry you have had so many struggles. I hope the infection is cleared up quickly for you

Daffodil Sorry the dates went backwards, always frustrating when you are feeling so rotten. But glad the scan was good- now to have a preview.

Norbert The links at the start of this thread have loads of useful information.
I think most of us are on a good cocktail of medication (so not just one). It varies what works for people, but most fond something that helps. I'm also old it's better of you start treatment early, which a good GP should be on board with.

Hi to everyone else. Xx

Four. Sorry about your grandma. But glad you saw her

Lucy. Bf is very dehydrating. I always encourage my clients to have a milky drink while bf and drink lots of water

Mel. Sorry you are blocked up 😱 licorise is meant to be good for constipation

Poppy. Thanks for link. Always good to read articles

Haich. Hope you feel
Better now

Daffodil. Sorry dates been put back :(

Norbot. Yes you are likely to have hg again if had first preg

Make sure you get medication as soon as preg if not possibly before if doc is sympathetic So have prescription asap

I just can't stop looking at bubs in 4d - so in love 💓👶🏼💓

norbert123 Welcome. You've had good advice about getting pre-emptive meds already, and if you ring 024 7638 2020 they should advise you about getting good pre-emptive meds. They'll have to ring you back, but they have helped lots of sufferers in obtaining meds. Do keep us informed. Everyone is very friendly on here.

IAm Good advice. I am so glad you had a nice swim and feel a bit better.
Lucy Goodness - poor you. I do hope it isn't the s infection that I never can spell.
HaichM Sorry about dates disappointment; tactless DH, even if it is his birthday...
Waves to Daffodil Blondes and others. Watch me cross post.

Daffodil: p.s. what's romance again? And I can't remember the last time I tidied. So far I have managed to do some washing up, hang some washing out and put DS to bed. That's about it so don't feel too bad about not tidying the flat.

Hi everyone else

That's all so helpful everyone, I'll definitely call the number and get some advice, pre emptive meds sound like the first place to start. It may be a little while yet but all the advice has certainly put my mind at ease more and I feel like at least there's some real support somewhere - thank you xxxx

Thanks for your kind words everyone about my Grandmother. I know I'm a lucky woman to have even known all my grandparents... I wish I had a magic button to take away pain, fear and confusion though. Old age sucks.

Grrr, it dang well is. It's in my uterus. Did you know it can be fatal? Jeez. Just my luck. My temp was 37.2 at home & by the time I got there it was 39.3. I've said it many times before & I'll say it again - I am just the worst at pregnancy ever!

Sorry for the lack of personals as my head is pounding but...

Ondansetron is the best thing I took. You can take HG meds in advance & that's supposed to help - particularly with drugs like Metoclopramide.

Unsympathetic husbands, well, I don't have anything polite to say there. Throw up on them I say. That'll do it.

Mental health & HG, I've definitely been there. It can be horrendous. You should speak to your midwife as they can refer you to the prenatal MH clinic quickly. Give them a call asap, don't wait for your appointment. How you're feeling is 100% normal. I HATED being pregnant.

Dizziness on the drugs was my experience too. Passed after a week or so after I tried each new one.

Four I'm very sorry to hear your news. Sending love & strength x

Oh, thank you but I can't stomach hot choc every day, but I had the same advice. Ironic considering I basically lived on chocolate milk throughout 2016.

Lucy I hope you're feeling better by now. It sounds like you've just had the worst luck ever. There's no such thing as being good or bad at pregnancy.

Do you ladies know any tips for relieving constipation? I was in agony last night. Last pregnancy I was told all I could take was fybogel but I don't think I could stomach that this time. I'm trying to eat fruit and veg, but obviously eating and drinking are a struggle right now. Dried fruit would make me sick.

Lucy You poor thing; I hope they can treat it effectively. You really have suffered after birth more than anyone I have known. I had a bad time after birth with the Return of Hyperemesis, the results of blood loss and infected stitches,but it was nothing like as bad as this. It is depressing, at a time which everyone else finds magical. I did find that it numbed my feelings towards the baby - but that all comes right in time.
If anyone else feels ill and/or emotionally numbed, I would give I found this advice in a book which is really helpful. 'Act lovingly to the baby, and the love will come in time.'
Socially Sorry to use this dreaded phrase,but have you tried the suppositories from Boots? Unfortunately, you'll need someone else to buy them, as they won't sell them to pregnant women (though they use them in hospitals, but then they won't sell cyclizine either). There are applicances to be bought online which rinse out the bowels which one woman on here went for.

Lucy Ah, I meant to say, that feeling 'ill or emotionally numbed' applied to me after birth, not you...

LUCY poor you. You really are suffering :(

Reaching the pink castle is meant to be joyful

Lactulose. Tho again get friend partner to buy. Won't sell to preg woman

Licorise (sp) is meant to be good if can eat it