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I have started bleeding!!

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SparklyGothKat · 01/01/2007 16:56

After the inital shock of finding out I am pregnant again, I have started bleeding today. Phoned the emergancy gp and of course he said that it could be a miscarriage, so he tried to get me an appointment at the EPU but noone is there, so I have to phone my gp tomorrow.. I have a very slight pain on my right hand side, and the bleeding is light. I asked about ectopic pregnancy and he said I would be in serevre pain, which I am not.

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misdee · 08/01/2007 16:23

cant you go to the caravan? just take food from the cupboards and spend the weekend wrapped up on the beach?

amynnixmum · 08/01/2007 16:27

I've been following this thread and really hoping it would be good news. I'm so sorry SGK

oxocube · 08/01/2007 17:16

Sorry SGK, I've had 2 M/c, at 6 and 13 weeks and its bloody awful. Look after yourself x

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SparklyGothKat · 08/01/2007 17:56

but cold for the caravan. I canlt deal with the rain and cold atm, especially as the kids have been ill. Anyway mum and dad are going there this weekend.

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AitchTwoOhOhSeven · 08/01/2007 20:05

hi skg,
not much to say, really, is there? i wish things had been different for you and your wee one.
will you come back and tell me what the next hcg levels are?

and pinkelephant, congratulations and commiserations on such a substantial drop. it is good news, but i know it's very bittersweet as this whole thing isn't what you wanted.

kindest regards to you both

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SparklyGothKat · 08/01/2007 20:19

Of course I will keep you updated, you have been a great support for me the last week. I am on MSN are you??

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MerlinsBeard · 08/01/2007 20:21

I'm so sorry SGK

AitchTwoOhOhSeven · 08/01/2007 20:32

if i went on MSN, sparkly, i wouldn't get any work done at all, therefore i wouldn't pay my share of the mortgage, we would all be made homeless and i wouldn't have broadband. so you see, it's best if i keep away...
will hear from you soon, am gutted for you but you will come out the other side a little different but okay in yourself - i know it.

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SparklyGothKat · 08/01/2007 20:36

lol@ your reasons I am starting to get cramps now, so I guess this is the lining coming away...

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AitchTwoOhOhSeven · 08/01/2007 20:51

it's pretty sore, that. or is was for me. take pills and have a hot water bottle on constant standby. take care of yourself. and give your dh and your children a kiss on the nose from me.

Flossam · 08/01/2007 22:20

I'm sorry to see this SGK. I hope you can take some time out to relax and that you can decide what it is that you want to do. Good luck.

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SparklyGothKat · 08/01/2007 22:24

bleeding has started but not full on yet, still spotting atm. If the bleeding doesn;t start proper soon, will I have to have a d&c??

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AitchTwoOhOhSeven · 08/01/2007 23:44

don't know for sure but i'd doubt it. i guess the c of the d and c is designed to make sure that any pregnancy tissue is scraped away? (sorry if tmi, or also sorry if incorrect as am not a doctor).

given that they don't think your pregnancy was in the womb, what should happen is that your levels should fall to below a level that would be a sustainable pregnancy and the lining of your womb will come away like a period.

the thing is, your womb lining will probably have thickened up a good bit so it might hurt as it comes away and passes through the cervix.

let's see what the figures do next, that will give us a good idea of what will happen. you might spot for a couple of days, or it might start tonight, no one can say.

what was it made them think it was definitely ectopic? did they see any free fluid around the tubes? was it just that there was nothing visible in the womb?

JanH · 08/01/2007 23:47

Oh, no - I am so sorry to hear this news, mieow - I hope getting through this won't take too long or be too painful for you

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SparklyGothKat · 08/01/2007 23:51

there was nothing in the womb, and because of the pain on my right side, they think it was an ectopic that has dissolved. Which I am glad about as I don;t think I could have gone though surgery.

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missnatalie · 09/01/2007 00:44

hi, SGK. How you feeling? Hope your not in too much pain. I went through a EP in November and know how heart breaking it is.

AitchTwoOhOhSeven · 09/01/2007 00:48

(slight hijack) how are you doing, missnatalie?

we should probably all try to get some sleep, eh?

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SparklyGothKat · 09/01/2007 01:01

yes I think so, atm the worse pain I have is my left arm where the stupid bint at A&E shoved a butterfly thing into my arm and its blew up, and now I have bruising and swelling. The lady at Pathology today said that the lady from A&E needs retraining in taking bloods

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AitchTwoOhOhSeven · 09/01/2007 01:08

SKG, i've been thinking about your question as to how long you should wait... here's what i think. you're not going to like it.

I think you should wait at least a couple of cycles, if not three. I'm just thinking that at the moment your fallopian tube might be a bit swollen, because the pregnancy has just recently been in there. i take it that swelling will have to go down. The baby would also have done a fair bit of burrowing, the poor wee poppet, so that might make the fallopian tube a bit sticky at the moment... I'm not a doctor or in any way medically trained, but my instinct would be to let that heal for as long as was possible, because your next baby might travel down the same tube.

actually, that's a lie. my instinct was always to get back ttcing immediately, to try to get some control back in my life, but i didn't. it's not a bad thing to put some distance between this pregnancy and the next, and you do need to grieve. i remember someone telling me that and i thought they were talking rubbish, but i realise now they weren't.

so there you go, that's what i think. what did the docs say?

missnatalie · 09/01/2007 01:09

Hi, Aitch its soooo good to here from you. I have to thank you so much from the bottom of my heart for all the advise you gave me whilst i was going through my EP.

I am now 6 weeks post op and so far am doing well physically but not as well mentally. But time is a healer.

Only 6 more weeks before we can ttc again.

Ive been a regular on the EPT website and your right. Izzie is an absolute angel.

Thanks again for everything. I can honestly say that if it wasnt for you and your advise i wouldnt have gone to the hospital that day and may not be here today. Thank you so so much xxx

SGC, THIS LADY IS FAB. IVE BEEN READING THE ADVISE THAT SHES GIVEN YOU. SHE IS AN ANGEL. IF THERES ANYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW, SHES THE ONE TO ASK. XXX

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SparklyGothKat · 09/01/2007 01:12

have to tell you this, after my dad took me to the EPU we had to nip into his house to get some money, mu mum was there and she asked how it went, and i said it was an ectopic but had dissolved, and she said 'well, thats why you shouldn't take the MAP' while trying to hug me. I just pulled away and snapped 'I don't need to hear that mum' she said sorry and hugged me again. I can't help but think she is blaming me for all this...

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AitchTwoOhOhSeven · 09/01/2007 01:18

isn't izzie an angel? did you tell her 'hello' from me? unfortunately, nothing shocks her about the shitey care that women with ectopic pregnancy symptoms get sometimes. she's saved so many lives, she's amazing. and i must say, hilarious.

when i was pregnant with the baby that is now sleeping in her cot (wa-heey, i got there in the end!) the docs told me that it was another EP and some part of me just flipping knew it wasn't so i held off. Izzie was an absolute tower of strength, she even phoned me at home to check i was hanging in there. she said that i needed to try to welcome the baby and persuade it to stay, and bizarrely enough, that's when my hcg levels started doubling.

the EPT site is rather good too (if sometimes a tad lovey-dovey for my embittered personality... ) and the expertise there is amazing.

so glad to hear from you, it's amazing how quickly the time does go, isn't it? and you'll need it, because you do have to steel yourself a bit to start ttc-ing again.

anyway, thanks for the compliments, much appreciated. and SKG, you know you could do worse than post on the EPT site for a decisive answer to how long you should wait?
night night.

AitchTwoOhOhSeven · 09/01/2007 01:26

let her blame you, SKG, if that's the nutty route she wants to go then fine, whatever...
it's not true, it's idiotic, but she's human. my mother said Wicked things to me, all of which she would completely deny now (and what's more she would believe it).

she's hurting because you're hurting. some people can't handle that, and they lash out at the one person they shouldn't. at least that's what my mum did, bizarrely enough. you have my sympathy, of course. you have hers too, but for some reason she can't see how to help you. well that's where i think my mum was coming from anyway, so maybe yours is the same?

AitchTwoOhOhSeven · 09/01/2007 01:27

hah! AND my mum used to say them while hugging me as well! wtf? [eye rolling emoticon]

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SparklyGothKat · 09/01/2007 01:42

I know why she said it. She is very relgious and doesn't agree with abortion, and she likens the MAP to abortion. I remember when I was 16 and after a night with my exboyfriend the condom had split so I got the MAP and she found it in my bedroom (was when it was 2 pills) and she FREAKED big time. I understand that, and I personally don't agree with abortion (for myself) unless its for medical or rape, but I don't see the MAP as abortion. I really don't. And to have her say it again to my face while trying to hug me, just angered me. I was in tears at the hospital and my dad didn't judge me, he said to not blame myself. But she just opens her mouth and has verbal vomit!!!

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