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Talk about every stage of pregnancy, from early symptoms to preparing for birth.

Cannabis whilst pregnant!

236 replies

MorgansMummy24 · 22/04/2015 22:04

As if I have just been to the shops for some late night snacks (feeling ravenous) and there is a lady outside the shop with a man, she is quite heavily pregnant and clearly smoking a joint of cannabis! Im really angry! To think of the people who miscarry or cannot concieve! I feel sick to my stomach, rotten!

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DixieNormas · 24/04/2015 20:33

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Dutch1e · 24/04/2015 20:58

I wonder if there's a brand new mum out there somewhere who smoked her first ever joint to ease her labour pains and was seen doing it by the OP. Wouldn't she be laughing now...

LadyCatherineDeTurd · 24/04/2015 21:13

As others have pointed out, other women's miscarriages and infertility have nothing to do with this woman's habits. You need to not link the two. At best, it's stupid. At worst, it's disgusting to co-opt other people's suffering into your argument, without their permission.

FWIW, I fucking hate people smoking weed in public, pregnant or not. It's incredibly anti social and really pisses me off. So I would not have been impressed either.

Oswin · 24/04/2015 21:31

So cannabis causes autism then. Okaayy then.
What happens in another persons body is fuck all to do with anyone else.
I say that as a woman who has been pregnant six times with only one child actually being born. Whatever personal pain I have been through does not give me the right to comment on what other women do with there body's.

MrsCs · 24/04/2015 21:34

Madre an opinion is generally formed without much prompting, for example liking or disliking a colour. So, with that in mind, you plan to spit your dummy out until people agree with you. Uhmm good luck with that..

My opinion is likely to never affect this woman, or other uncaring people like her, which is fair enough. I don't have the right to control her, however I can have whatever thoughts I like regardless of how you feel about them.

madreloco · 24/04/2015 21:37

Couldn't you keep your inane opinions to yourself though? Just as no-one cares what colours you like, why would anyone want to know what you think of what a woman does with her body?

And contrary to your assertion, many of us form our opinions based on much more than whims. We like to actually think about them, especially before we share them with the world....

MrsCs · 24/04/2015 21:42

Well as it was a thread about opinions on the matter I don't feel compelled to keep them to myself, seems a good place to air them really :)

PlentyOfPubeGardens · 24/04/2015 21:45

My opinion is likely to never affect this woman, or other uncaring people like her

Well it is actually, indirectly.

Your ill-informed notions may not affect this individual woman, that's true. However, people with substance abuse issues usually find it very hard to admit they have a problem. A climate of judgmentalism (to which you are contributing in your own small way) makes it even harder for people who need help to come forward and seek the support they need.

madreloco · 24/04/2015 21:50

I don't think there is a good place to air them.

Good point there Pube. Also the fact that it contributes to the prevailing notion of public ownership of pregnant women, which is a dangerous and slippery slope.

MrsCs · 24/04/2015 21:50

I have worked with children who have to live with the effects of these choices, for example fetal alcohol syndrome where it IS the parent's fault. It is horrific. I have sympathy for parents who want to change but I have met many who don't care. I don't see how the fact a baby is a fetus makes the situation any better. I am pro choice however if you decide to keep a child I believe you have a moral responsibility to make good choices in pregnancy.

MrsCs · 24/04/2015 21:53

I hate that 'slope' shite, it's such a cop out. Just because I believe a woman should behave responsibly with regards to substances does not mean I oppose female autonomy in all respects. I am pro choice, I also believe we should not legislate a women's choices in pregnancy. On the other hand I will always believe women should feel a personal responsibility to make the best choices.

madreloco · 24/04/2015 21:56

You don't want to force them by law, you just want to force them by societal pressure.
Like thats so much better Hmm

MrsCs · 24/04/2015 22:00

Nope, I just retain the right to have the thoughts when I see things happen or read about them. Also to chat on a general forum. There really isn't anything you can do about that really.

Charis1 · 24/04/2015 22:38

Charis that is such a load of bullshit! Please stop reading the news, it's not good for gullible people nothing to do with the "news" I haven't seen any of this on the "news" - I am seeing it every day all round me.

Sorry if you don't like it, it happens to be true, Cannabis causes damage to babies' central nervous system, quite apart from all the other devastation it causes.

DixieNormas, yes, it is known what causes SOME autism. it has different causes.

DixieNormas · 24/04/2015 22:54

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Charis1 · 24/04/2015 22:56

Is your response to hearing facts you don't like always to insult the person informing you?

It doesn't make the slightest difference to the facts.

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itsnotmeitsyou1 · 24/04/2015 23:02

Charis, are you a scientist? Because I have researched autism, both as part of my degree and since I have become pregnant. I see no evidence to support your claims. 'Seeing it around you', is not proof, unless it is part of a certified medical research project you are professionally working on. No one truly knows the cause of most autism - it's thought to be genetic, lacking or over exposure to certain minerals or related to other conditions.

Cannabis can cause issues, and most women would be egar to avoid it in pregnancy. However, there is enough scaremongering out there about both autism and cannabis use. Please check your facts, with conclusive proof, before adding to any hysteria. Or are you one of these people who stupidly believes that injections are full of nasty things that will give your child autism as well?

Oswin · 24/04/2015 23:52

charis1 did you say you are a teacher? Wowsers. You keep saying untrue things then sticking fact on the end as If it makes it true.

MummyPiggy87 · 24/04/2015 23:54

Is this thread still going, bore off.
Your never going to agree so stop arguing like little children. Like you've all said about a million times, you've all got an opinion, I'm right your wrong.. Blah blah blah!!
Look at yourselves for goodness sake. Hmm

Charis1 · 25/04/2015 00:03

Dixienormas/itsnotmeitsyou

The research and reviews are publically available for anyone's perusal, the naysayers statements are also available for any clear headed analysis to very quickly see through.

You can research it yourself, anywhere you like, although to be honest, you clearly have your own reasons for simply not wanting to know the truth.
Here is part of the University of Washington review to start you off. But really, this is just a random review from the thousands available.

^Can marijuana use affect pregnancy?

THC (delta-9-hydrocannabinol), the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana, is known to pass from the mother to the developing fetus through the placenta. This means that the fetus is affected by any amount of marijuana taken by the pregnant woman, placing it at a greater risk of complications occurring. The effect of the passive inhalation of marijuana as a result of breathing in the smoke of others is not quantified, but should be avoided.

Any form of smoking can disrupt the supply of oxygen and nutrients to the fetus, which can result in restrictions in the growth of the fetus (including overall length, foot length, head size and body weight), and in rare cases premature birth, miscarriage and stillbirth.

Can marijuana use affect the baby?

There is some evidence that women who use marijuana during pregnancy are more likely to give birth to babies with lower birth weight, delayed commencement of breathing, an increase in features similar to those found in foetal alcohol syndrome, exaggerated startle response, tremors, poorer eye-sight, poorer ability to adapt to new aspects of the environment, and a "hole in the heart" (ventricular septal defect).

Other studies have found that in the first six months of life, babies who have been exposed to marijuana in utero are also at greater risk of developing asthma, chest infections, and other breathing problems such as wheezing.

Research suggests that, at ages three to four years, children of mothers who used marijuana while pregnant have poorer verbal, memory and reasoning ability; poorer motor skills and shorter length of play; and are more likely to be fearful, impulsive, inattentive, hyperactive and delinquent. These difficulties appear to persist to age 10 years, when they may be accompanied by increased depression and anxiety, along with reading and spelling problems and general underachievement at school. Such deficits may also continue into adolescence and early adulthood, along with an increased risk for initiation of tobacco and marijuana use.

In addition, there exists some evidence that mothers’ marijuana use during pregnancy increases the risk of their children developing childhood cancers, including non-lymphoblastic leukaemia, rhabdomyosarcoma (a rare, highly malignant tumour that can occur anywhere in the body), and astrocytoma (a type of brain tumour).^

itsnotmeitsyou1 · 25/04/2015 00:10

I've read your post several times. It does not mention autism. Can you please link this source, and others, to correlate your findings, and link to your hypothesis that cannabis can cause some types of autism? Oh, and I never said smoking weed will absolutely have no harm on a fetus. But that wasn't the point, I want your scientific findings on cannabis proven to cause autism, thanks.

Mypubesarestraight · 25/04/2015 00:13

My sister has the odd joint and she's pregnant. She's got crumbling of the spine and she doesn't want to take the strong meds.

DixieNormas · 25/04/2015 00:15

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parsnipbob · 25/04/2015 00:15

Really don't see what other women's infertility has to do with someone smoking dope while pregnant?