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Cannabis whilst pregnant!

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MorgansMummy24 · 22/04/2015 22:04

As if I have just been to the shops for some late night snacks (feeling ravenous) and there is a lady outside the shop with a man, she is quite heavily pregnant and clearly smoking a joint of cannabis! Im really angry! To think of the people who miscarry or cannot concieve! I feel sick to my stomach, rotten!

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hestialou · 23/04/2015 06:47

Cassie, if possession is illegal then surely being in the act of smoking it is illegal as it is also in your possession.
I do have a problem with this, but then I also have issues with none pregnant people smoking it in the street with zero disregard for laws of the country.

paxtecum · 23/04/2015 06:57

Hestialou: re laws of this country, most of us follow the ones we want to but not all of them.
I would think that 99% of drivers who drive over 70 mph on the motorway or dual carriageway would consider themselves to be law abiding.
Obviously they are not, but it doesn't mean they have zero regard for all laws of this country.

Have you driven slightly over the speed limit?
Have you ever been a passenger being driven over the limit and not objected to the driver?

paxtecum · 23/04/2015 07:02

I have a 42 year old neighbour who had to have two or three large glasses of red wine every week whilst pregnant. She reckoned it was fine because of the government advice, but sure enough she got pre eclampsia, baby was born early, in SCBU for weeks. It is a fact that drinking wine can increase the risk of pre eclampsia but hey ho, if you're pregnant and fancy wine, why not

Oh and yes all that cost the NHS money. It's not just women smoking a spliff that can cost the NHS money.

plummyjam · 23/04/2015 07:14

it is a fact that drinking wine can increase the risk of pre eclampsia

Is it?

Feckeggblue · 23/04/2015 07:26

I don't think alcohol is related to pre eclampsia? It's to do with the development of the placenta?

goodnessgraciousgouda · 23/04/2015 07:42

You know, whilst I'm not going to say that what she was going was a great thing, a good thing, or even an okay thing, but her body isn't public property. She is an autonomous human being and she has the right to do as she wishes, even if what she wants to do is extremely unwise.

You can disapprove if yo want to, but it's not up to you, or for anyone else to police a woman's behaviour during her pregnancy. She isn't some kind of baby incubator a la Hand Maid's Tale. That's why the Government give health guide lines and recommendation on drinking, smoking, etc during pregnancy.

It would be a particular form of dystopian hell if a woman could be prosecuted for doing something which might post a risk to an as of yet unborn child.

I think the USA have got that covered, to be honest.

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MorgansMummy24 · 23/04/2015 08:18

I'm disgusted, about 'what her life is like' sorry my father took his own life a year ago so my life is pretty hard right now but that is just NOT ACCEPTABLE,

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MorgansMummy24 · 23/04/2015 08:24

good debate going on though, I have read a great deal about women who actually take up smoking cannabis because it takes the edge of their HG but I can't justify it. It goes against my beliefs and morals

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KneeQuestion · 23/04/2015 08:31

Yes kneequestion. this may be an inconvenient truth to you, but you not liking it doesn't make it any less true

But it isn't true.

PlentyOfPubeGardens · 23/04/2015 08:37

Sorry to hear about your dad Flowers

Lots of women smoke during pregnancy. Some women drink to excess during pregnancy. Some use cannabis and/or cocaine and/or heroin and/or ... some pregnant women don't have homes or enough good food. Some have chaotic lifestyles or poor mental health or live with DV. Some pregnant women don't want to be pregnant in the first place.

Getting outraged doesn't begin to solve any of the above.

And what goodnessgracious said too.

newbian · 23/04/2015 08:42

MorgansMummy so how do you feel about the thread called "CRAVING wine" where women are talking about drinking while pregnant?

If you are upset by that then at least you're consistent. You can no more assume a woman smoking one joint is a cannabis addict, than you can assume a woman drinking a glass of wine is an alcoholic.

In small quantities neither probably hurts a baby. I am an extreme abstainer, I'm not even taking caffeine or paracetamol. But I think your reaction is extreme, marijuana is not more dangerous than the legal drugs tobacco and alcohol. If you saw her using a drug that babies are known to be born addicted to like cocaine or heroin that would be different.

differentnameforthis · 23/04/2015 08:42

paxtecum - it is a fact that drinking wine can increase the risk of pre eclampsia

Erm...I don't think so. But if you have a case study, I would be really interested to read it.

I found this

Conclusions: Although only a few cases and controls consumed alcohol throughout their pregnancies, alcohol did not appear to increase the risk of preeclampsia.
from Here

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MorgansMummy24 · 23/04/2015 08:46

Totally agree Nubian but I think there's a difference between a frequent drinker who has fallen pregnant 'craving a wine' and actually having that wine. I don't think a pregnant woman should put anything in her body that poses risk to her unborn baby

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differentnameforthis · 23/04/2015 08:47

Kneequestion

from [[http://www.healthguidance.org/entry/13215/1/Smoking-Weed-While-Pregnant-and-Its-Adverse-Effects.html Here]

Studies have shown that exposure to all of these drugs can lead to developmental issues in later life – as one might expect. Children who were exposed to weed in the womb on average will reach their developmental 'milestones' (such as speech and walking) much later than those who weren't. This then starts them off at a severe disadvantage in their education. Furthermore these children might exhibit jittery shaking and restlessness. Correlations have also been found with many diseases and disorders such as attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, leukaemia, autism and others. They also showed on average worse memory, judgement and social interaction skills.

So there maybe something in it.

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MorgansMummy24 · 23/04/2015 08:49

I must admit reading some of these opinions does hit home but it really did strike a nerve with me when I saw that last night, at least do it in privacy not in a public place

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SunnyBaudelaire · 23/04/2015 08:50

"That is not true, she will be damaging her child, who will have to live with the damage, and other children in the same class at school will have to live with the disruption, and tax payers are likely to have to fund benefits, etc both for mother and child, possibly for many decades to come, if the child is damaged enough to need life long care."

got a link for those wild claims Charis?

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MorgansMummy24 · 23/04/2015 08:51

I am abit confused about the autism and ADHD as I believed they were genetic

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differentnameforthis · 23/04/2015 09:07

Here

SweetAndFullOfGrace · 23/04/2015 09:10

You can disapprove if yo want to, but it's not up to you, or for anyone else to police a woman's behaviour during her pregnancy. She isn't some kind of baby incubator a la Hand Maid's Tale.
^^this.

Smoking pot while pregnant might be a stupid thing to do but it's her body. A fetus doesn't have personhood and therefore can't have a crime committed against it. This is an incredibly important principle if women are to retain their human rights whilst pregnant.

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MorgansMummy24 · 23/04/2015 09:10

Brilliant, so true

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SunnyBaudelaire · 23/04/2015 09:11

there are no links to any studies in that article differentnameforthis.
what really jumped out was the final sentence;

" you can not prove the negative effects of weed, "

SomeSortOfDeliciousBiscuit · 23/04/2015 09:12

The 'cannabis causes autism' is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read on here. I can't even get angry with the poster who said it, because the lack of brainpower that must go into such a statement just invokes pity in me.

differentnameforthis · 23/04/2015 09:13

MorgansMummy24 I don't know...I really don't know enough about it. I do know autistic children who do not have autistic parents.

I googled it & that is what I came up with! I have seen (between friends, so nothing I can link to) arguments for autism being genetic & arguments against.

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MorgansMummy24 · 23/04/2015 09:16

I was referring to the link from different by the way. I don't agree with that law either to be honest. A man punched his pregnant girlfriend repeatedly in the stomach and she lost her baby of 7 months gestation, I believe he should've payed the price for that life

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differentnameforthis · 23/04/2015 09:16

there are no links to any studies in that article differentnameforthis.

I know...sorry...I wasn't posting it to prove the poster was right, but simply to say that there was nothing concrete...

and while, yes, it does that you cannot prove the negative affects of weed, that was said along with

At the end of the day though, if you can not give up marijuana for nine months for the sake of your child then this is a clear sign that you already have a problem. Furthermore, while you can not prove the negative effects or weed, nor can you disprove them, and it is certainly not worth risking your own child’s health.

I guess no one wants to take the risk in order to find results.