Shiny and new posifrickintivity thread for pregnancy after miscarriage.

[MrsGiraffe12]

Hand holding, fish slapping and general bat shit craziness :-)

Chops horrible cramps and aches are common in normal pregnancy too! In fact, a MMC can't really give clues because it is 'missed' - your body doesn't reject it (which is what MC cramps are). So very likely it is just muscles stretching. Your bowels are 'moved' inside you and they don't like it at all - can be very uncomfortable indeed and scary if you had MC cramps in the past or any reason to worry.

Littlemissy FX it stays just a bit of brown (old) blood. At about 5 weeks many people get this. Hoping it is just that and nothing else.

Thanks for the fish slaps, everyone.
I still worry because although my losses were early, my condition can cause late MC, prematurity or stillbirth (and this happened to 2 of my relatives, who my consultant suspected also had the condition but undiagnosed) so I still feel the need to stay very alert. Having said that I think even with these what happens is the placenta never grows big enough to feed the baby fully and mine has been monitored throughout.
Also thinking that my baby is a big old thing - if the HB is slightly slower and the HB slows as the baby grows, it could just be that she's quite developed and just laying down fat now?
Got a scan on Monday. Hoping they don't turn around and say she's gonna be a 10lb monster LOL!! Something in the 6-8lb normal zone would be juuust super (big enough to not worry, not terrifyingly huge).

feeling sick so very sick. :( vomitted twice already today and still not feling quite right. fingers crossed it's nothing serious. my not quite right and normal would suggest looking for not feeling sicky.

nothing to suggest mmc, 13 days to go! I can make it.

littlemissy i hope the bleeding has stopped??

davidtennatmistress yes you can do it, not long to go at all! Sorry you're feeling so sick though

I am in need of a fish slap please. I'm not working today and have been obsessing over the fact I have no symptoms today. Felt very mildly nauseas this morning and that's it. The last few days i've had loads of horrible nausea, feeling really really hungry, sore boobs, headaches and exhaustion and suddenly I have nothing. I am just being obsessive or is this something I should be worried about after having some pain last night? I know even if something has happened me worrying about it won't change the outcome but feel like I am going a bit mad. I keep telling myself maybe everyone's symptoms come and go a bit but can't seem to stop worrying.

littlemissy brown blood is old blood. Stop panicking. It's in fact very common. Hopefully you'll get your answer in your scan next week in the EPU.

squizita now it makes more sense why you are worried. I've been discharged from consultant care after a review at 20 weeks. At this point, I'm quite worried about traumatic birth leading to disability or stillbirth. (Totally irrational). But with two relatives having the condition, I can see why you are worried. But you are in good hands, and they are monitoring your placenta and growth.

ilovechops I'm impressed you already have morning sickness at 5-6 weeks. I'm sure mine wasn't there yet at that stage. So stop panicking.

littlemissy I agree with the others, brown blood is very common, lots of the ladies on here have had it and been perfectly fine! But it's good that your getting a scan arranged to hopefully put your mind at rest!

squiz I'm not surprised your anxious, I worry about it terribly and I have no reason to, so can't imagine how much worse it is when you have reason! But still have a mini fish slap as your babies heartbeat sounds like it's perfectly normal!

I may need a fish slap back today, the babies movements just don't feel the same today and last night, he is still moving, but I'm sure it's not as much as normal, an it
feels different, more like rolls than kicks, normally when I have my cereal my bump is jumping around all over the place, today I got no movement at all while eating. I no if I go do the lying down thing with a fizzy drink il get 10 movements in an hour or whatever it's suppose to be so seems pointless phoning the midwife, but the movements still just feel less than normal . Maybe it's jus cos I'm 35+5 and he's running out of room but it's still making me worry :-/

Sorry for the me me me post, gona go drink some fizzy drinks n chocolate to try n wake the baby properly.
Hope everyone's ok!

I also got a (nice/worried) private message from a MN user the other day, basically she had a stillbirth and thought I wasn't stressed out enough from me relaying my consultant advice re movement on the forums. It's just triggered me massively. Also how do you reply to something like that even??
Got nothing done today except lie there feeling my belly. :(

I follow the 'count the kicks'/NHS guidance to the letter... should I do more?

Alb ironic given my last post but here goes... so long as you feel DELIBERATE movement (not hiccups) they can be swooshes, rolls, kicks or pokes. The pattern over the day is important- so if you're worried as baby usually moves but hasn't- do lie down for 1/2 hr (my MW said don't wait 2 hrs for 10, better 1/2 hr for a few definite movements- quicker to tell if anything's wrong). But if you get no joy ring the midwife.
Hope a drink and chocolate woke him up! :)

Thanks squiz he is moving, it's jus less than normal, feels a lot sleepier, even after eating chocolate and drinkin Pepsi I can feel little movements but no big bursts or anythin, just slow (kinda painful at times) movements, feels more like he's shuffling about in his sleep rather than waking up and having a good wiggle... I used my home doppler an heartrate was 150 which is fine although I no I shouldn't use it when worried but I'm just worried today, gona have to track down a midwife number soon I think

Just been lay on my side for 15 mins and the baby has been moving literally the whole time so now think maybe I am worrying over nothing... Phoned the hospital an they didn't sound concerned cos he is moving but said if I am then I should go in for monitoring to put my mind at rest but I can't get through to the right department at all to sort it out (just keeps ringing out) so they must be busy... Think iv talked myself out of going in now. Soooo sick of pregnancy and all this worry, just want him in my arms now (I no it's all any of us want on here!) iv managed to find somewhere that will do a private scan on Saturday so hopefully that'l give me some piece of mind aswell...

Alb similar here- just lay down and baby gave distinct movement!

Mixed news from booking today :( ++++ sugar in urine so she wants it kept an eye may have something to do with the Lucozade I drank before lol but she said even with that she has never seen so much sugar in a sample surely though too early to be considering GD but with sweats and dizzy spells if I need to eat apparently it needs keeping an eye on apparently. But MW was lovely and very reassuring said any cramps or spotting anything between now and my 12 week scan to call her and she'll get me seen again at epu :) 30 minute visit ended up
Being 2 hours lol

So, another day, another bleed, although a very small one. Mat hospital asked me to come in anyway. I had hoped that the polyp had fallen off, as I have had 4 quiet weeks, but no, it is apparently quite vascular but not worrisome. They will only take it off if I am getting regular bleeds, and we will figure out what to do about removal perinatally. Baby was fine, kicking away at the monitor straps as soon as they went on.
Super tired now, just want to curl up and sleep.
Sorry to hear all the uncertainty on the thread, thoughts with mrsg, alb, baby , squiz & anyone who is having a wobble.

:( I posted this about my anxiety (I didn't mention the private message which has basically triggered all of this - I mean, surely you check someone's history before PMing them for giving advice straight off count the kicks website as too relaxed!?!) and I got this reply. Basically telling me to go into hospital:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/pregnancy/2147201-Anxiety-flaring-up-movement?msgid=48617158#48617158
I have had full on belly rippling movement this evening but I am still panicking. Why don't people read posts: I was so clear that this wasn't reduced movement it was concern over anxiety!!
Yes, I've been lying on my side obsessing for 5 hours today! :( :( This is no way to live!

Jeez some people are dumb so sorry you had to deal with that squiz :( how are you feeling now?

OK until like a fool I went on someone's genuine reduced movement thread and a lady was talking about how she had a stillbirth after a friend told her it was OK!! Dumb me, shouldn't have gone on the thread. I would go to hospital of course if I had no movement for even a couple of hours.

That's pants Squiz, how're you doing now? It must be so hard not to read everything into everything - I know I do!

What's your follow up Baby will they check your sugar again incase it is early GD? I've spent a productive day not thinking about this scan a week on Monday spending every second of the day chastising myself for not being able to think of anything else!

So sorry you had to deal with this Squizita. Hope you're feeling better and the anxiety is subsiding.
Although you know that everything is fine, might it be an idea to call MW/ hospital just to talk over your worry tomorrow? If you're anything like me, I always seem to end up in a situation where I find it's Saturday and I want some advice - sometimes harder to get. Talking through your worry might just set your mind at rest. Thinking of you

baby hope they are going to check you again soon to keep an eye on things.

Yeah but the problem is I know it is MH. I might need to ring my actual normal MW and discuss it not the hospital- she knows I have anxiety.
I can't describe it: basically imagine feeling the kick, seeing the kick, going to turn up your kick counter and an intrusive thought saying "that was just wind" or "that wasn't hard enough, is your baby weak?" or "did you really just see/feel that or imagine it?". Like the worst case ever of 'did I leave the iron on' but x1000 and about a life/death thing. Ugh.
But it's so emotive, people who have had late losses don't seem to have any concept that kick counting could get obsessive/debilitating.

I'm being kicked hard and repeatedly in the ribs at the moment. Thank goodness.

I'm so sorry squitzita. I think you should talk to your MW. Can she help you with this issue? Have you talked to her about it before? It's good that she knows you suffer from anxiety, and as she knows your history might be able to offer someone to listen to who can help you work through it all.

Don't mean to sound all knowing - I'm not, just aware that from reading your posts this worry has got worse as time has gone on - so hopefully MW can help with that. .

Oh and I'm glad your getting kicked in the ribs For all the best reasons!

squiz best advice I have is don't go anywhere else but on this thread! Stay away from other threads/dr google, just a fast route to more anxiety. 5 hrs on your side - you are right, it's no way to live so next time you find yourself doing it get on this thread and we will fish slap you out of it

Ended up speaking to head of midwifery today who was great. I'd had a lot more brown discharge last night and although I know brown blood is old so not bad, I also had masses of mucous stuff and had a major panic it was the plug coming away as it reminded me of what I had when I went into labour with dd. So called my midwife who is on holiday so ended up speaking to the big cheese. She was fantastic, reassuring and told me I could ring whenever I needed for reassurance. So nice to come across someone knowledgeable who doesn't make you feel like an idiot. She advised me to report any further fresh bleeds or pain, which I did know already I just think I needed to hear it again, bonkers eh.

Sorry you're feeling so dreadful squiz. I think from what you've said you've been thoroughly checked over and monitored this pregnancy, so I'd imagine that any of the undetected issues which can cause 3rd tri problems would have been picked up if they were there! Did you say consultant is happy with your placenta functioning? Is that maybe something you could remind yourself when you're feeling anxious?

Argh not sure if my post made any sense... very tired today! Sending hugs anyway xxx

Oh squiz, sorry you are feeling like this. You must talk to your MW about it asap and see if you can get any help, as we all know well that the reassurance of a good antenatal appointment fades fast. Try and listen to the rational voice you mention for the time being, but it is totally understandable that you will be more anxious than most.

MW told me told go and see gp ASAP re GD and sickness plus palpitations it's all good fun lol though mw was going to have a heart attack when she saw the amount of sugar she was concerned that I've been craving and only able to keep down high sugar sweet food and drinks too so promised gp Monday/Tuesday as DS has hospital apps that we have been waiting a really really long time for so can't go tomorrow not too worried though as I already know I am going to be consultant led and not able to use mlu :(