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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 29/05/2014 17:35

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!prescribinginfosub

I would like to thank Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

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Meerka · 27/06/2014 21:04

grrr. they've made the whole of the NICE guidelines only available for viewing from the UK :(

Fraggle31 · 27/06/2014 21:53

Meerka - if you let me know your email I'll try to download and send it over :)

LucindaE · 27/06/2014 22:18

Trondheim Welcome, I do hope you get away with it this time, I can't improve on Meerka's advice. Do join us!
George Infected kidneys, how agonising. You poor thing. I do hope it gets better quickly.
Kali I'm so glad they have at last put you on steroids.

mrsGembles and Somesunny Teaching a class of teenagers would be beyond me at any time!
Henrietteaturkey You poor thing. Mother Hen thinks you must have gone back too early - I hope dr signs you off again.
Fraggle and Babybutton I do hope you don't rush back. Babybutton Lovely news about kicking baby.
Okla I hope Ok? Mrsnec Flowery and Everyone I hope not too bad.
Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked/cross posted with.
xx

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Trondheim · 28/06/2014 08:19

Thank you for the lovely welcome. I'm on phone with a toddler but hoping to get to computer soon. In the meantime can someone please reassure me that what started this morning is probably food poisoning? I'm only 4+4, was hoping for a bit more time Hmm When did yours start?

Fraggle31 · 28/06/2014 08:29

8 weeks for me although I felt pretty sick for 2.5 weeks before then.welcome the thread btw!

Meerka and kali - thank you for your comments yesterday. I'm already on stemetil (prochlorperazine sp?) so we'll see how I go with the cyclizine. Think I will plan a doc appt for end of the week to discuss with my regular doc and in the meantime give PSS another call on Monday. Don't really feel like I need an advocate at the mo tbh - I've worked in health care long enough to fight my case and stand my ground against doctors as needed lol

SomeSunnySunday · 28/06/2014 10:23

Meerka we used myExpatShield as a VPN when not in the UK. You have to pay for it though - I think about a fiver a month. There are free versions too if you google (we just used this one a it seemed the most reliable, and we relied on the Internet through a VPN for TV as well).

Anyway, just google "UK VPN", pick one, and download it to your device (iPad / laptop / PC). It will talk you through how to do it. I am not good at all with technology but didn't find it difficult. Then once it's downloaded, if you put your VPN on the Internet is fooled into thinking you are in the UK. Magic!

Trondheim you poor thing. With DS2 I was being sick before 5 weeks. This time round I really thought I'd got away with it - I was a bit nauseous and sick occasionally from 5 weeks, but the HG really didn't kick in until 7 weeks. It has to been much different though apart from that, I can't really see any rhyme nor reason to when it starts. Welcome to the thread anyway, although sorry that you have to be here.

George that sounds horrible, just what you don't need. Hope they can find something to help.

FloweryBoots · 28/06/2014 12:17

Hello ladies. Not feeling up to reading through adn catching up just yet but thought I'd stick my head back in. Following bleeding and cramps and loss of sickness earlier in the week I managed to push hard enough to get a scan which I had this morning. All seemed quite positive - saw an egg sack and it's in the right place. From measurements they put me at oly just 5 weeks (so not a lot to see) rather than the 6 1/2 from my dates. It's entirely plausible as only had 4 cycles since having my daughter and they were still a bit variable (of course the owrrier in me is thinking what if it only looks 5 weeks not more because it stopped developing at 5 weeks and just hasn't been expelled yet, and I'm not convinced the rather insensitive HPT I used would have given a positive result when it did if conception was actually a week or more later). But nausea is back with avengence now, I wonder if just the inital stress and worry of the bleeding sort of blocked it out. I had 2 days of nothing and then it's gradually increased and today worse than it had got to pre bleed (much pulling over of the car on the way to EPU for me to retch!). But blimey, if I'm only 5 weeks now the nausea started even earlier than I thought! So, I'm tucked up for a rest now. Will try to catch up later.

Lottiedoubtie · 28/06/2014 12:54

Hi all, flowery sorry to hear you're feeling sick again but fingers crossed it is actually good news for you!

I'm feeling sick and crying this morning, hormones all over the place, having to force myself not to lose control of my breathing at times ( asthmatic). And all because DH has gone away for a 3 week work trip! Ridiculous really, he goes every year and I usually look forward to the me time! This time I'm a pathetic snivelling pregnant mess and he hasn't even been gone 12 hours yet! Confused Sad

Oklahoma · 28/06/2014 15:15

Lottie give yourself a break. I wouldn't be able to cope with DH going away for 1 night let alone 3 weeks! Have you got local friends of family you could stay with for a bit of it?

We just got back from Cornwall. The journey has ruined me though so going straight to bed for a nap!

FloweryBoots · 28/06/2014 15:52

Caught up a bit. MrsG welcome and sorry you're struggeling. I'm not sure what I had last time was really HG, suppose the boundries are always going to be a bit grey, but my nausea lasted right up until labour. All I can really do is sympathise. I only got meds at 37 weeks so no major experience but I hope your new combo helps. All I can say is that mine did clear up as soon as I gave birth and I couldn't stop telling people how wonderful and amazing I felt after the birth as it was such a relief to finally not be feeling sick. Think that relief covered up any niggles I had from the birth!!

Trondheim oh fingers crossed you have an easier time of it this time round. But perhaps pre emptive strike approach if symptoms start and look to be yucky.

Exhausted today, not surprising given it's been a bit of a worrying few days, but I'm really struggling to drink now, urgh (and it's hard hiding ice lollies from the kids - they are going to end up snackig on rubbish for the next few months because they're going to see me doing it!). I'm not so bad if I can just stay still. Easier said than done with 2 kids. Think it will be of to the docs this week to ask for anti emetics.

kalidasa · 28/06/2014 16:19

FINALLY out of hospital, and this time thank goodness I can stay on 20mg of the steroids for a fortnight before going in to be reviewed. Still v nauseous but not throwing up and can eat and drink so a huge improvement.

Nausea for me has started in all four pregnancies (2 v early losses) 48 hours after conception. This time was even more intense then last time and I have been bed bound from three weeks i.e. a week after conception. By staying in bed and taking cyclizine from three weeks and ondansetron from four I managed to postpone the vomiting until five weeks. I think my early pregnancies are pretty extreme even by HG standards though. I really really thought it might be twins this time as couldn't believe it was actually worse than last time despite all preemptive drugs, but they are sure there's just one in there!

SomeSunnySunday · 28/06/2014 16:57

kali glad that you are home and have your steroids, sounds as positive as you could probably hope for.

Flowery my children now pester me constantly for Ribena and salt & vinegar crisps Blush. Unpregnant I am the queen of healthy toddler diets, to the extent of making all of my own bread so that they didn't get the salty processed stuff. Now they are living off beans on (Kingsmill) toast and Markies kids ready meals. They are delighted, and I am past caring! I am so not in any state to be whipping up a lentil shepherds pie for tea just now....

elizabethsmum · 28/06/2014 21:15

Hi all- sorry to have been so neglectful of the thread lately. Have has a horrid week with work, a virus and the awful news that the twins nursey teacher has been found to have terminal bone cancer and has only been given 12 months to live- feel devasted especially as she has two boys of 11 and 13- it does just not bear thinking about and has put all my minor everyday worries into perspective :(

Have only had time to skim through the last day or so but wanted to check in so will try and catch up more thoroughly...

henrietta are you sure you're ready to go back to work?? I struggled on and off through my first hg pregnancy and in retrospect it was a huge mistake and I made myself a lot worse. Second time round I had 10 weeks off sick and had been feeling a lot better for a couple of weeks before going back and didn't relapse again really. Take care of yourself xx

kali glad that the steroids are helping, hope you continue to improve xx

georgebythesea poor you, hope you are on some good strong painkillers xx

welcome to all those new to the thread and waves at all hg veterans and graduates xx

LucindaE · 29/06/2014 08:56

Sorry Everyone, I got the virus that my daughter had, and I always get a migraine thrown in as an extra - I'll try and catch up today, just glanced over fit.
Kali Thank goodnes you're out. Sorry to go on and on, but it still might be worth contacting Caitlin Dean or Amanda on PSS re getting effective treatment.
Elizabeth'smum Sorry to hear tragic news.
Lottie Hugs. I can imagine it is the worst possible time - well, at least it didn't happen when you were at your worst, but that's not much comfort.
I hope Everyone is surviving. Back soon.
xx

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Lottiedoubtie · 29/06/2014 12:25

Thanks okla and lucinda. I'm feeling a bit more rational today, keeping busy is helping, fortunately family are only 30mins away so I'm doing lots of visiting this weekend and plan to keep it up over the next few weeks! Term finishes this week for me, so only a few more days of work to get through!

elizabethsmum sorry to hear things aren't easy with you ATM.

kali out of hospital yay! Fingers crossed this is the start of more helpful treatment for you.

waves to everyone else, hope you're all ok xx

HenriettaTurkey · 29/06/2014 14:45

You may be right...it may not work. I have since had an email saying could I do lunch duties, and can I do a school trip a week on Wednesday with my class, which will involve pushing a wheelchair all day. And can I write the risk assessment for it if I'm going?

I'm going to have to say that at the moment I can do none of those things...that'll look good, won't it? Hmm

The head also wants to change things for September so that I am a cover teacher; not a form teacher, to give the students continuity. Fair enough, and a good idea in theory, but I don't have my 12 week scan till this Friday so am worried I'll say yes, and then there'll be no heartbeat or something. My mum told me off for that attitude and said I shouldn't be so negative. I reckon it's just common sense though.

So tired and drained now. Just want some time alone - chance'll be a fine thing!

livingzuid · 29/06/2014 15:16

flowery fantastic news on the scan. The first trimester is such a nail-biting time so I'm glad you have the reassurance. I guess the only positive is that if the sickness has struck so early then the hormones are doing what they need to and supporting the pregnancy?

kali so glad you are out of hospital and with the steroids. Hope they continue to do their thing.

lucinda hope you and your daughter are feeling better now.

henrietta I stopped work at week 17. I would have stopped earlier if I could. Teaching in particular is so demanding physically and mentally - at least I just sat behind my desk feeling rubbish. If you don't have to work, don't work :)

Busy here and super tired hehe but all good apart from that. How I managed to put on so much weight with HG I don't know but I am now getting determined to figure out what exercise to start doing once I have been given the all clear at six weeks and get healthy again. I had no idea how much HG would wreck my body and also emotionally play havoc, so do be prepared for things to take time to go back to normal. I've relied so heavily on DH these last few weeks and sneakily part of me is looking forward to returning to work just to get a bit of a break and a return to normality for me psychologically - although I will miss them both desperately. I keep holding her even when she doesn't need it (ie asleep) just to try and bank the time with her Grin

kalidasa · 29/06/2014 17:08

Thanks everyone. Lucinda I am still planning to call for advice, thanks for chasing it up for me, everything has just been so impossible the last week, I've been so ill and poor DH has been desperately struggling to keep everything going with work and DS.

Unfortunately I am not feeling great today, very nauseous indeed although I haven't thrown up. Really really hope the sickness isn't going to break through even the massive ondansetron dose + steroids because I am sure if I end up in again they won't put the steroids up anymore, they'll just keep me in hospital for weeks until things calm down. At least with the steroids it is easier to keep eating and drinking a bit despite the dreadful nausea.

I am 9 weeks and 4 days today. The peak has got to be soon hasn't it? I can't believe this pregnancy has been significantly worse (didn't think it was possible!) than the last one, despite all the pre-emptive medication.

I have lost six kilos so far and I am now just over eight stone, so I really don't want to lose any more. I think my BMI is still just about OK but it must be getting quite low.

Sorry I haven't caught up properly with the whole thread but flowery I'm so so pleased you had good news. A burst of adrenalin can definitely temporarily overwhelm the nausea, I suppose it's a survival instinct thing, so it sounds as if that's what happened.

livingzuid · 29/06/2014 18:18

lottie I forgot to say hope you are doing better. I could not cope without DH around and even him going to work is Shock very much sympathise.

SomeSunnySunday · 29/06/2014 18:22

living Daisy is so tiny still, don't expect miracles too soon! Honestly the weight will come off, for me it's always a slow process though, no snapping back unfortunately. Walking with the pram is a good place to start, and once I got stronger I liked exercise DVDs which I could do when the children napped.

kali, your HG is so much worse than mine has ever been, but nevertheless the absolute peak of awfulness for me is always weeks 7-10ish, so hopefully you are nearing the end of that phase. I was still pretty sick until around week 13, and for the last couple of weeks it's settled down to constant but rarely overwhelming nausea, and a bit of intermittent vomiting, but not every time I eat or anywhere like it. I really hope you find that it starts to stabilise soon.

Henrietta, can you hold off on a decision re next year until after your scan? I'm sure things will be fine, but I'm naturally cautious so this is what I would do. I've not even told many people I'm pregnant yet, at 15 weeks (although I'll have to soon, my salt & vinegar crisps bump is starting to become obvious).

Lucinda, hope everyone in your house is well again now.

Not much news here. Managed to take DS1 out for a ride on the pony he shares this morning, for the first time since he's been back. 2 hours at the stables catching, tacking up, running around beside him. He was desperate to go. I started off quite well, but on the way home it was all I could do not to puke in a hedge, and I've since spent most of the afternoon lying in bed, interspersed by sicky episodes. It is amazing how little now constitutes overdoing it for me.

kalidasa · 29/06/2014 19:10

Thanks some. Last time there was no improvement at all until 12/13 weeks, but I hit the 'bottom' as it were - I mean it stopped getting significantly worse - at about 8 weeks. I couldn't get out of bed at all until 18 weeks. Unfortunately this time does seem to be taking longer to reach the peak but hopefully as you say within the next week or so I will at least achieve some sort of stability. Hopefully at home rather than back in hospital! I would definitely still be in hospital without the steroids, so at least that's something. I am meant to have an ante-natal appointment tomorrow but I'm going to postpone it - I think partly the bad day today might be because of all the activity of coming out of hospital etc yesterday and maybe if I just totally rest for a couple of days I'll pick up a bit.

living I had v. severe SPD last time (in a wheelchair by the end) which took a long time to fade so I had to be careful with exercise. I swam mostly in the first few months which is pretty gentle and I found it enjoyable 'me time' as well.

LucindaE · 29/06/2014 19:57

Kali Hugs I so hope it is peaking now. I can't believe it could be worse for you this time either, you poor thing. Maybe it''ll peak and subside a little more early this time too?: I do hope so.
SomeSunny I wanted to say, you're a heroine for cooking at all. The kids won't be affected long term by a rubbishy diet for a bit.

Henrietta Flowery and Fraggle I think teaching sounds well nigh impossible with this.
Livingzuid Remember you have to leave time not only to get back energy levels,but also, your joints will be too loose for violent exercise for a bit. I really hurt myself lifting up my OH's bicycle which was blocking the corridor, I remember. Probably swimming the safest thing?
Hugs to Lottie and Everyone. Apologies to anyone rudely ignored.
Thanks for sympathy, everyone. Not really deserved, as what is a day or two of sickness compared to Hyperremesis?
xx

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FloweryBoots · 29/06/2014 21:48

LucindaE I would agree, can't imagine how anyone could teach with this, heros I say. I'm not a teacher adn personally don't think I could face a room full of kids every day in any state of health!

Last couple of days been fairly rough but perking up around tea time so I'm doing better in the evenings. Makes the days with the kids bloomin hard but I do exam marking 3 times a year and have had that this week (oh what timing) so at least I've been able to get the last bit finished of this evening. Glad it's over now.

Kali what I get is absolutely nothing compared to you, but like Sunny, last time my peak was around 7-11 weeks and then I got some improvements in stages around 11/12 weeks, 16 and turned quite a corner at about 20 weeks ('just' constant back ground nauseas until labour then!) so I REALLY hope yours stabalises soon and you can look forward to some gradual let up.

Henrietta I'd be inclined to say I didn't feel comfortable agreeing anything formally until I'd had 12 week scan - surely they will understand that. It definately wouldn't be unreasonable in my opinion.

Hope you all get some good sleep.

LucindaE · 29/06/2014 22:14

Flowery Sorry, my brains scrambled - I meant to say how happy I am that your scan is fine after the alarming bleeding. Marking sounds a strain - were you a lecturer before?
Hope Everyone is coping.
xx

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FloweryBoots · 30/06/2014 08:35

Helpful comment from my MIL:
MIL: how are you feeling
Me: Really sick
MIL: Well, you knew what you were getting into.

Nice!

I am going to have to find a polite way of banning her from asking me how I'm feeling/am I still feeling sick/is it no better yet. Last time it got SOOOO draining and depressing. She meant well, but it was just so utterly depressing to keep being reminded of it (and she would ring most days to ask!) and then have the same platitudes spouted, which were well meant, but truely irritating just in their repetativeness if nothing else. Actually, I might not bother trying to be poite about it! Sorry, just a minor rant.

Lucinda no I wasn't a lecturer, the marking is music theory exams - if you learn't an instrument when you were little and took exams, it's that exam board but I only mark written exams. I don't do the live practical ones (nothing like good enough to). Nice bit of extra cash now I'm a SAHM, but it's a very tight turn around time so quite a pressure to get through them in nap times nad the evenings when it's on.

Vomitting started this morning. And because we had such a funny week last week (staying at PIL Fri - Tue then the bleeding Wed and not really doing anything rest of the week) today is the first day I actually have to go out and do stuff with the kids and get on with life and be sociable since the nausea set in. DS has his first 'stay and play' session at big school this morning (starts reception in september) so I have to make nice with a whole bunch of unknown Mums whilst feeling like crap. Think my sea sickness bands and DS constant questioning of 'do you still feel sick mummy' might give it all away!

Hoping for ebst days possible for everyone. Sorry that was such a me me me post.