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[BlindKitty]

Small print: ideally pg with #1 and had ttc for >12months although let's face it, we ain't as fussy as we used to be, just as long as you're nice

5 second generation berry babies and LOADS more to follow

Yup, feel the same way rp, this has been a long time coming so don't want to jeopardise it. Did do bit of yoga but have been quite gentle, would like to join a pregnancy class but seems like you need to wait until after 12 weeks. Had a really good yoga bum before this, now I can feel it flapping behind me when I run down corridors! Not that I do a lot of running down corridors.

You'll be in the second trimester, very with dino

Took your advice and didn't set alarm. Woke up at normal time before 7 for a wee, went back to bed and woke up at 10.15!! There is a mountain of washing up in the kitchen, planning to be done and going to friend's for lunch at 12.30 and gotta shower and make myself presentable. 2 friends there are v laid back but the third is lovely but always looks like she's just stepped out of a salon, v made up, fancy clothes etc. My friend said the christening I missed recently was a total glamour-off, mega high heels etc. I just need something that doesn't make me look fat!! Anyway going to sort myself, then work and washing up can wait!!

rp you will not be Dino-free! Us newbies are going to do this en masse!

bushy sounds like a lovely lie-in! Saw your other post on the Berrie thread. What a pain in the jacksie those parents are!

win how are you?

I'm having a terrible time. I've been so down. Sickness has eased off which is causing all sorts of paranoid thoughts and to top it off, my hayfever is shocking AND, this morning, I woke up to the mother of all cold sores -literally - across my whole top lip. WTF! I've not had one since I was a kid. I spent the day at work feeling like a total freak and now here I am, a day before the big friendship group yearly summer party (20 of us have had a pact that we get together once a year in the first or second week of July for the last decade) and I feel so sorry for myself I could die! I need a wang please. Someone, anyone...

Arrr feather you don't need a wang at all. I think you're just a bit run down. Please don't worry about the sickness easing off. I think it's perfectly normal. When I hear you worry it reminds me that I've not had any sickness, which then in turn makes me worry that I am not pg. stupid eh!! I've got mouth ulcers under my tongue and sore throat. I do tend to get mouth ulcers when I'm run down, normally when I've been living it up! Are you the same with the cold sores? I do remember reading something about when you're pg you can get more colds and run down because all the energy is going to the baby. Also mouth problems are common e.g. Bleeding gums as that is a side effect of pg.

I think you're more aware of the cold sore than others. Bummer it's before your meet up when you want to look nice. The glam friend today didn't disappoint- sky high espadrilles, teeny tiny daisy duke denim shorts, skinny and fake tanned to the hilt! Was almost ott but that's what she's like and is a lovely person. My other friend was asking how she's so thin and she said she's a total yo yo dieter and does meal replacement shakes and will be fat again in a few mths time. I just thought how exhausting to do all that dieting,just bloody relax and find your optimum weight that you can maintain- not too fat or thin, which you can tone up with exercise.

And yes, silly parent. Was a bit annoyed as felt pushed into telling the kids to be quiet by complainer behind me and it was my day off! I am teaching the younger son next year so hope she won't hold a beef. I have taught her older one and was fine, she's just a bit sensitive- has charged into the head's office complaining about bullying before. I think she just likes to get a bit puffed up. Think beaky hit the nail on the head! she was embarrassed.

Hi guys!

win somehow I am 27weeks today, it's madness!

bushy yes at times it does get overwhelming, even heading into the third tri. I have been using bio oil but not regularly, now on it twice a day, exfoliating and moisturising shower gel. Doubt it will help but got to try lol

Oh feather just a gentle wang from me. Just remember your immune system is busy doing very important things and that's made you poorly and feeling down, hugs!

Feather I am getting cold sores too! I get them on my nose ickickick and have had two monsters since the bfp, think I can feel no 3 brewing :(

I think you probably need to be careful when the baby comes though, as cold sores can apparently cause babies real damage.

I hope it will all work out. I was just having a down couple of days, with the new icky discharge. I think it is probably normal as it keeps on steadily but with no real warning signs.

Bunny, 27 weeks so in 10 weeks you will be term! And a mum in 12-13 most likely!

27 week bunny!!! From the outside that seems to have gone SO fast! I've been eyeing up the bottle of bio oil in the bathroom but you've inspired me to start slathering it on like a mad woman. At least I'll know I'd tried.

Thanks for the support bushy, rp and bunny.

Sorry for giving you the heebies re lack of nausea bushy - I know I'm being silly, and I know I'm spending way too much time fussing and moaning. Need to get over myself! I have a daisy-duke dieter friend. She goes through phases of obsessing over exercise when she's unhappy and I spend a lot of time worrying about her. You're right, it must be so exhausting.

rp my herpes buddy! Two outbreaks already? Poor you. What do you use on them? I bought a Zovirax type ointment and those compeed plasters you stick over them. Also, do you mean when the baby is born or that it can do damage in pregnancy?! As I said, I've not had a cold sore in over ten years so this return has been a bit of a shock. Bloody immune system! This better not be the start of regular outbreaks! I have to deal with lots of adult humans in my job and it really knocks my confidence. Went to a leaving do earlier and had to leave as I felt so self-conscious (and exhausted)

Is anyone else thinking of having and early private scan? I'm really tempted to book myself in next week for a sneaky check to see if all is still OK. I read recently that once you get to 9 weeks the chances of the pregancy continuing leap up to 95%, which if true, I'm willing to grab onto that stat!

Man, instadiffers don't even know they were born. Do you think they think about all this stuff too to this degree? I think when you've been trying for so long, and been through the infertility wringer, it really sets you on edge when it finally does happen. Sometimes I wish there was a bit of innocence about it all for me still.

This may make you all laugh: OH has taken to discussing the birth recently. He's so into everything and as I've mentioned before, a bit too excited for my liking. Woah, horsey! Anyway, he was saying that he wants to put a 'birth playlist' together and bring some small speakers to attach to the iPod and that he - wait for it! - wanted to ask the midwife at the next appointment (!) if we're allowed to bring in scented candles "to give the room a nice vibe"......!!!!!!!! I'm just letting him waffle and dream for the moment. Think he's going to be in for a proper shock at the reality of it all!

See bunny has explained it much better than me! Go you with the slathering on! Are you exfoliating your stomach do you mean? Hold on feather with the bio oil! I was about to the other day and stopped to read the bottle. Says you're not meant to until 2nd trimester.

Lol at herpes horizon!!

feather you are not moaning too much. It's like you said, wouldn't it be nice to be more innocent about it. And yes I am envious of instadiffers. I had a bit of a meltdown about that side of things earlier this week-like I feel a bit in denial of the whole pg thing because I can't let myself believe it, in case it's taken away.

Re the scans, I can't remember if you had an early one. If you did then maybe wait as they are not sure of the effects of a lot of scans on developing baby. So if it's not essential then maybe give it a miss. But if you haven't I could see the appeal. But we are edging closer to 12 weeks, I think you, rp and me are all about the same time- end of July?

Oh my life, lurve your dh's ideas and his eagerness. I love those little signs from them that they are starting to take it seriously. Lots of people do have playlists. We joked with a friend that she should have saltnpepa 'push it'! Love the candles, let him believe it and make you a palace of the delivery room. Mine has taken to sending me links to articles, like '7 things you didn't know about giving birth'- wooah horsey indeed!! He also said he'd been thinking of names and told me a girls name. I like it but not love it. Bless him,he said he thought about it cus it was my nana's name. I don't like the shortened versions of it though. But here we go running away with ourselves...

Feather I got told not to use Zovirax by the pharmacist so I've just been trying and failing not to itch them and wait for them to go away.

Apparently cold sores can cause newborns brain damage and even death. I never knew this until my close friend gave birth and asked me over to see her baby, and I had one of these cold sores - 2 years ago now, this was - so I posted an MN thread asking about it as I thought maybe the baby would get infected if I held her. It was an education!

So assuming dino is still alive (!) I am 9+5 today, so 10 weeks on Monday. 12 w scan is the 22nd.

I have been tempted by the private scanning sirens, but tbh, it's 99 quid around here for an internal, and it won't change the result. I am going to tough it out till 12 w.

So the elasticated trews are making their first appearance! DH laughed at me for dressing like a Devon retiree but my, they are comfy!

Sorry just realised my post was probably quite scary! I think pharmacist said not to use it as a precaution rather than cos there is any evidence it is harmful. And the cold sores thing doesn't apply during pg as far as I know as the baby is protected by your immune system, it is just after birth they are vulnerable.

Rp are you in London?

Thanks for the advice rp - I'm using the cream, cymex, and was told by the pharmacist that it's fine - such a tiny amount, if any, can get into your blood stream via topical cream. Am also dabbing in tea tree oil and that seems to be helping. Grrr. I hate them so much. Plan on this being the first and last outbreak in a long time. It bloody better be!

Elasticated trews - lovely! I can't get out of my pyjama bottoms when at home.

Agree with you on the roughing it out till 12 weeks (if I make it that far) I'm 9w + 1 today and have already had two internal scans. If bushy is right about possible effects then I think it's best to avoid!

I'm another coldsore sufferer I use tea tree from first tingle, amazing stuff! If I catch it early enough sometimes they hardly even appear.

Hello all, hope you're all doing okay.

I had quite a few cold sores in my first trimester and I just tried not to touch them as they can spread very easy... I did a lot of googling about risks during pg and like others have said there isn't unless someone has genital herpes and then there is a possible risk to baby...just don't go fiddling down below while you have them! Sorry tmi!

Yorkie

Merk in I am in Plymouth, hence the Devon retiree vibe!

Feather that is useful, thanks! I will try that one instead. Can you just get it in Boots? Or tea tree oil, do you just dab it on neat?

Ha ha I did mean rummaging around to check there is no spotting but yes that too!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha rp! You are so funny. Thanks for the tips all. So glad I'm not the only one! Feel like such a leper!

Yep, rp, cymex is just from boots. Also got some of those compeed stickers to cover them up a bit and promote healing - wearing those over night as it gets quite hot. But the thing I've found most effective over the last 24 hours is tea tree, dabbed on neat with a cotton bud.

Right, me and me herpes are off to this party. I'm gonna have to style it out.

Happy Saturday all!

Proper lol rp!! You've gotta have good hygiene eh!! I think I am 9 weeks 2 days. Yay- we can all tough it out together. Another 3 weeks and we'll be there. Anyone else find themselves being v reticent to refer to yourself as pg or baby? I find we're talking round it as a bit scared to believe but we're getting bolder, name talk is continuing.

Been really snappy with dh and he with me but had lovely moment earlier where he said it's totally normal to get cross with each other but that doesn't change the love. He also said that this baby has come from love, hope, perseverance and patience.. We both then said yes if needs a strong name to show that.

Whilst we are sharing herpes and not touching our genitals, have any of you Clusterdiff ladies ventured into hanky lanky yet? It's a bit novel when you are not chasing a baby. I will admit I feel a bit frisky, as long as I'm not knackered! Anyone else or is it just me?

Was out buying a christening present earlier, the shop assistant was helping me and showing me what was popular. One thing was a rag doll that came in a little bag. Colour cordinated to her dress... £28!! Anyone remember that Harry Enfield sketch- I saw you coming!! Good grief!! In the end went for one of those nice melamine sets with tray, bowl, Beamer and cutlery all in jungle animals v cute!! There were dresses in this shop for 2 yr olds that cost £30!! That's what I'd spend on me!!

Lol at herpes filled horizon, hope you get rid of them soon ladies!

Yep 27w is insane! I guess we need to buy some more stuff!

feather your DH is hilarious! he must be so excited! If you want to encourage him try The expectant dad's survival guide, my hubby is enjoying it, he also read the news dad's survival guide (first as it was a gift) think he likes to feel a bit more involved and that helps

Meltdowns are common, hormones, emotions etc are messing with your body and your head. I've had several this week!

Crikey bushy we have only just started talking names lol

at fiddling and wanking

Woah bushy what kind of shops you been into was the doll made of gold?
But you DHs comment was so sweet!

Hanky lanky I told DH to avoid the chapter in his book about sex!

We are Not Doing The Nasty till after the 12w scan. Just in case. Also I mostly feel quite pukey in the evenings which helps.

We are very cuddly at the moment though.

You know, although it know things can go wrong and we are telling very few people, I have less problem saying pg or talking about the dino baby. I am pg. It might not last, but this is the closest we've ever come to having a baby.

I am also one of nature's organisers. I already have been working out how much I need to save for mat leave, what we will need to buy if it does work out, and which nursery I would send DC to. I can't not.

And it won't make a difference. To be brutal, I am pg, I have a baby inside me, and that baby will either be healthy and live, or it will have the kind of abnormalities that mean I will mc. Looking at cots online and daydreaming won't change that and I might as well enjoy being pg now, because who knows? This is the closest I might ever get.

Hey all. Just popping in to see how you're doing. I'm so glad you are all still doing ok. Very sad to see barking back at hq

Bushy, I wouldn't worry too much about the scans. I had one every week between 6 and 16, and Immi has turned out pretty perfect. I didn't look into the science of it though.

bushy We've got frisky quite a few times since the bfp. Just been careful not to get too carried away and been gentle. These hormones flying around have turned me into a horny old goat, so waiting for 12 weeks would have not worked. Ahem.

bunny will get oh those books - the sound great! I need to broach the subject of him not needing to come to EVERY midwife appointment again. He put the three appointments for just chat and check ups in his diary...! Bless him - he's so keen and I really hope this pregnancy works out otherwise he'll be devastated.

rp sounds like you have the right attitude and I'm going to take a leaf out of your book. "I'm pregnant now". I've found it really hard to refer to myself as pregnant or say 'baby' - been saying 'my current condition' in a mock Victorian accent, mostly!

Managed to stay up till 11.30pm at the party. Rock n' Roll!

Lol at 'present condition' feather, so true though, it's like a dirty word. I had to say it on the phone to doctors' surgery and felt embarrassed!! It's a bit of self preservation really but perhaps we should try to be like rp.

It's funny how different things make us thing wooah horsey. E.g bunny with name talk but I'm like that with the logistics of nurseries, maternity leave etc but rp is right! It won't make a difference, this is the furthest I've ever got to. I suppose I don't want to get too into it in case. However I do have 6 whole weeks to daydream about logistics and plan as am teacher berry. I will have to watch the obsession!! I will be on here more and more- anyone else a teacher berry? Think bunny is.

Glad I'm not the only whisky frisky hippity hop on here! We couldn't have held out til 12 wk, we did til the 6week one. Otherwise i'd be like feather ,a homy old goat!!

Off to a christening later today with the present. Not the gold dolly- lol!!

Spend 2 days googling holidays in cottages in wales, dh has now said he'd prefer to spend more on something nice for less time. So now it's swanky place in devon for 2 nights and then possible option to go across the coast for another 2 nights in a less swanky place. We also have friends who are up in lake district on hols who we can camp with. But think it'll be quite active e.g. Mountain bikes, I only have a crappy old bike and can't deal with hills so may not be the best but scenery and friends will be lovely but will see. Also thought we could tell them by then as will have passed 12 weeks. Trying to make my dh commit is like nailing jelly to a wall.

Ooh whereabouts in Devon?

Yeah, I should say that whilst I am happy to say the word pg, I always feel the need to say "if it works out" afterwards.

I think it is harder for me to not talk about it in those terms as my close friend who has been a rock throughout ttc (despite being an instadiffer herself) works in the next door office and knows, so she hears me puking up comes by for a chat quite often.

Every day is the closest I have ever been to having a baby and damnit, amidst all the knicker watching and vomming, I'm going to enjoy it!

Oooh just made the lushest, cheesiest mac and cheese.

Mmmmmm cheesetastic!

Mmm love mac and cheese! And yes that's exactly what I use as a suffix to the word pregnant as well!! It's in kingswear, nr dartmouth. Thinking of going over to ilfracombe too, seen a nice b&b so that can be the less swanky of the 4 days. We're going to spend rest of dh's week off at home or poss go up to Lake District but tbh dh is a bit of a home body and would be quite happy pottering at home. He is also fiendishly hard to get excitable about holidays, only gets excited the day begins he goes! I would like to go for longer but dh thinks we could go away again later in year which would be nice. Any holibob plans here?