Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!prescribinginfosub

I would like to thank Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

HG typically starts earlier than nvp so the fact you're already feeling terrible at six weeks indicates that it would seem sensible to get on some medication...

Monkey Welcome, I so agree with others - don't feel guilty about asking for and taking meds and now I'll give my usual 'have you got kesostix to check if you're getting dehydrated you can get them from any chemists?' stuff too, if you feel sick all the time it's difficult to get in enough fluids.
The links n the intro should reassure you that the meds are safe, much safer than getting very ill. Don't feel guilty, this is like being knocked down by a train.
xx

Hello everyone, veteran of this thread from 2012 here, DS was born at the end of November that year and I threw up ALL the way through (not every day after about 26 weeks, but unfortunately I was in a wheelchair for severe SPD too!). Repeat hospitalisations in the first trimester and lots of drugs all the way through. A horror show!

So I had my coil out ten days ago, my period has just ended and I collected a bag of drugs today (cyclizine, ranitidine, pyridoxine and a small amount of ondansetron) and now we are bracing ourselves . . . Obviously might not happen for months but I got pg v. v. quickly last time. Feel torn between wanting to keep putting it off and wanting to get it over with . . .

Anyway, just checking in, I reckon my chances of not joining you on this thread pretty soon are extremely slim. Hope everyone is surviving.

Kalidasa
Eeeek good luck. Exciting yet scary for you??? Hopefully you'll be one of the lucky ones and escape any HG at all!!!!

Glad you've got your med supplies sorted! A plan :-)

Thanks punk. Monkey early onset is a bad sign - basically it seems that the earlier it begins the worse it is likely to be at the hormonal peak (8-11 weeks ish). Definitely see the GP, stress how early it is and how much worse it is than last time and how it is preventing you from functioning either physically or emotionally/psychologically. Hopefully it won't come to that, but if you do end up in hospital, they will usually give you a scan to check for twins - I was hospitalised for the first time v. early (5 weeks) and the consultant totally freaked me out by saying he "expected" to find two in there!! He even made me go back for a second scan a couple of weeks later to check that they hadn't just "missed" the "other" one the first time!

wow kali, that is very scary!! We have said that this is our last and only baby, going through hg is hard work!

Wonder how Meerka is getting on?

I only went for second pregnancy as I was foolishly optimistic. I thought with pre-emptive meds I would glide through pregnancy with little nvp let alone HG.

However, each pregnancy is a new placenta so who knows? I think my body just malfunctions at the slightest sniff of HCG.

Punk, lucinda and kalidasa, thank you so much for the kind words and encouragement especially re meds. That's really reassuring to know. The link to pregancy sickness website has really helped me get into the mindset that meds will be fine. I think my mum was a bit freaked out when I was pregnant with ds as during her pregnancies in the 60s and 70s the situation re meds was very different. This time around I really think it will be the right thing for me.

I will definitely get some kesostix as even though I'm convinced I'm not dehydrated my lips are cracking up which is not a good sign!

Very best of luck kalidasa and I hope things will be much easier with a second pregnancy! Very exciting news that you're ready for no.2.

Good luck kali! I can imagine the wait for hg to set in is a really awful feeling!
monkey I can't improve on the other's advice, I do agree the sooner you get some advice the better though. I waited far too long!
How is everyone else doing? No news on meerka? I hope she is ok.
well I am currently enjoying that part in the 2nd trimester where the symptoms have improved considerably! I'm trying again to get my meds downto 4mg of ondansatron/day but we will see how that goes. I'm still vomiting once a day.

hello monkey and hello again kalidasa ... good luck!!

its a bit difficult here, the inductions are failing and I'm afraid I'm not handling the whole thing very well, specially when the nausea and the bad sleep hit. They are keeping me in hospital now until the little sod baby is finally ready to make his appearance. Which atm feels a bit like waiting for the Second Coming.

Sorry to hear it hasn't all kicked off yet Meerka. I'm pleased they are keeping you in though, not sending you home again... Don't be afraid of crying all over medical staff IME it helps if they know how awful it is for you... Tends to speed things up!

You are in my thoughts, wishing a speedy arrival for you from here on in.

If inductions are failing surely it can't be too much longer before they progress to CS? It seems cruel to be hanging on so long. You are nearly there!!!! Today could be the day!!!

Wishing things to go your way today :-)

Meerka My goodness, who would handle this awful finale well?! So agree with Punkstar - surely they won't leave you suffering like this for long.
This baby knows how to make a grand entrance, oh dear, you poor thing. Gentle pats on offer.
Monkey So glad the advice from everyone on here has helped you - the dry lips sound a little sinister.
kalidasa Lovely to hear from you and that you are bravely going for another. The best of luck for a non-hyperemesis pregnancy.
Hope Everyone is copipng.
xx

meerka I know c section is not ideal but sometimes here you just wish they'd bloody well get on and do it instead of pushing the whole natural birth thing. So sorry it's not working guess he's just to comfortable in there!

Landed and on my way back to my bed. After having no problems getting on the plane yesterday the jobsworth at the airport wouldn't accept my fit to fly letter from the hospital as it was in Dutch despite having flown 24 hours earlier. To say I nearly lost it was an understatement and loudly declared to the whole gate that I wasn't about to give birth on a 40 minute flight. Then on arrival was greeted with a wheelchair and made full use of it as my sandals were a bit ow hehehe. Then ran into less than helpful Dutch customer service so really you can't win, every country has its foibles doesn't it?

And the air hostess had to feel my bump to guess the sex which is the first and last time a stranger touches me but as she helped get me onto the flight I couldn't complain!

As for the hg well I didn't realise it was one of those propellor planes with one seat, aisle and then two seats and it was soooo bumpy. I felt so sick on both flights and only diet coke upon landing helped. It was lovely to go and see friends but I'm exhausted now and definitely underestimated the amount it would take out of me.

monkey don't worry about medication it is just as punk says. I too have been on four different types for different conditions that I have and they are pretty hardcore. I'm growing a heifer as a result! Times have thank god moved on so much since terrible thalidomide days. You mustn't worry and you could do more damage by not taking anything rather than taking something.

Sorry if I missed anyone. Hope everyone is OK.

I wish they'd give me a C-section so much now. I didnt want one at first but now, oh god, anything to bring it to an end.

How on earth did you survive a bumpy plane flight living ... I take my hat off.

monkey, I echo what everyone says about meds. its a bit difficult to dig up the studies atm but honestly, the meds used now are considered safe and the fact is that actually, dehydration is also a threat

punk you have no idea how much they try to avoid c section here. It's ridiculous really. They have I think the highest rate of home birth in Europe and even to get an epidural without paying you have to be classified as medical emergency otherwise the insurance won't cover it. People find ways around that of course but the principle is absurd. The cynic in me, and many people I have spoken to, is that it's a way of saving money. Part of the mantra is that natural birth is safer than c section which I think these days is a load of bullocks.

And in the meantime, ladies like meerka are left to battle it out whilst nut jobs like me get their pick of what they want to have done. It's terribly unequal.

Bullocks hahaha swear fail - you know what I mean

I am only referring to myself as a nut job btw not any other poor soul with bipolar. Just realised that was not very pc

they're classing me as a nut job too now, living - i really did melt down after they mentioned waiting til 42 weeks yesterday then discharged me and I ended up back in as an emergency admission and they called a psychiatrist in. Hence why they're keeping me in, even if it's til week 42.

Beyond caring if I'm a nutjob now.

Nutjobs are good folk. So are HG folk ... its rotten that we are all suffering with something that turns what shoudl be a joyous time into sheer misery. But the people on this thread are amazing.

Sweet Jeez!! 42 weeks....no way!
That is exactly why I refused a VBAC. There is no way my brain can contend with 42 weeks.
I know most people want a normal delivery but the only way I can deal with this thing is having a set date.
Meerka I am so sorry this is not progressing quickly.
I was ready to flip last time...midwife was certain he'd turned and was no longer breech as I'm getting prepped for my CS. Said they would send me home if he had (good little boy stayed put!) but I would not have left that hospital until he was delivered!!!

Living utmost kudos on the flight. No way would I attempt it. Hope the maternal visit goes well and you get some rest

Interesting how different healthcare systems work. To be fair they seem to be trying their best to reduce CS here at some hospitals but I say do not mess with a woman with HG!.

Meerka you poor thing. Really wish there was something we could do to help.

Living totally with you on the flight thing. I'm still in the USA and have already started dreading the flight home. It's been amazing seeing our friends out here but I would much rather be throwing up in my own bathroom.

Hope everyone is holding up xx

It's the fact that it had to get to the point of desperation for you meerka which is obscene. As punk says, just get the baby out wtf is this nonsense waiting till 42 weeks. I'm getting c section if I go 40+5 my consultant will not let me go to 41 weeks. Thank god. Why one rule for some and different for others? I am on your behalf. Lots of and once he arrives for you and huge positive karma is well overdue. Glad you have accessed a psychiatrist now, mine has worked wonders in putting rockets up various hospital departments to get things done. Hope you will get the same and at least you are in the right place. Are you getting sleepy drugs? (I'm not allowed )

It is a big public holiday here on Saturday (don't ask), in honour of the King's birthday. So meerka's boy could share his date with royalty :)

meerka that sounds really horrible, I'm not surprised you broke down when they suggested 42 weeks! Surely a C-section would be cheaper than keeping you in hospital for weeks on end, and better for you too? on your behalf.

meerka just to highlight the divisions in this country, when I explained what you were going through his response was 'well what can you expect from a bunch of farmers'. Only in the Randstad region can you be considered to be non yokel it seems!

That was dh I was explaining to btw. I need to go to bed. My feet are the size of watermelons and I want the 5 huge pillows I now sleep with to keep me comfy and kind of sane.