Pregnant (IVF) Worriers/Warriors Part 4

[Buzzybee123]

Hi everyone,

This thread is for all you incessant worriers out there, not necessarily limited to IVF-ers, although I get the feeling the people who have had trouble TTC are more prone to worrying than others!

gin!!! Good luck and update us ASAP. How exciting!

And sweets, good luck for tomorrow. How exciting!

Microwave sterilisers are a pain literally, I scald myself daily on mine but it's too late in the day for me to buy an electric one.

shazz I think it's good to go to your parents but waiting and seeing how you feel about the rest is a good plan. Also you are totally nuts googling c sections. I really don't want to know what happened - that's why they have the screens...

noks I can't believe how close you are. Time really flies. Glad the nursery is finished and have you got names sorted? I am always available for suggestions from the classic to the outlandish.

ELCS over induction any day here. My induction ended in emergency forceps and so much stitching that everyone said I'd have been better off with even an emergency section.

I didn't think dildals DH was in her dressing gown. That would have been better though. Oddly my DH said today he wanted a dressing gown like mine. Mine is a deep pile brown fleecy full length number that makes me look like that elephant / mammoth mash up from Sesame Street - Snuffleophagus or something. Perhaps I'll buy him a leopard print one.

Ringlet stopped vomming but I didn't sleep much being on high alert. So far nobody else has started vomming. Me and DD1 went to the theatre this afternoon which was very good fun. The most remarkable thing was that I took only a normal handbag - no massive change bag. I kept thinking of forgotten something.

Great news re all the pregnancy symptoms choco - very reassuring. I had no symptoms at all, apart from tiredness which can obviously be due to many things. I ended up getting lots of hcg levels for reassurance. My early scan was 7+2 and could see foetal sac and pole and heartbeat. Any time after 7 weeks should show all that is necessary.

Hi buzzy how are you? We don't hear nearly enough from you. Hope all is well x

All the very best for tomorrow sweetie - very exciting.

Glad you are feeling better shazza

Thanks for all your thoughts re CS and induction.

gin hoping all's well!

sweetie good luck tomorrow for a peaceful CS. What a wonderful xmas present, twins!

This Xmas is so so different from last year I have to say. I was so depressed. I went back and read the egg buddies thread from last Jan and Feb. We've come so so far and to a much happier place.

choco so glad to see you on this thread! I remember you from the egg buddies back last winter. I think I had my scan when I was just 7 weeks. I waited until the blood test at the clinic to find out I was pg and then did only one POAS just for the satisfaction of seeing the two lines for once! I never did a digi or any others again because it would have stressed me out too much. Symptoms are v reassuring though. Good luck getting through the next few weeks, I have to say that I don't envy you, although as you've been through it before you know what it's like. We're all here for you even if we now all blab about babies an awful lot.

motor I think the drawback of the pessaries as opposed to the drip is that the drip can be turned down or off if it is too strong, whereas once the pessaries are in that's it. I think the thing is that if your body is ready the sweep may help but if it's not, only the drip or perhaps the pessaries will actually start anything. Do you have an appointment with the consultant to discuss? It does seem a bit of a shame that you are being pushed into early induction - although you may of course be all too ready to have the baby by then. Your maternity notes have the official risk factors listed and I don't think IVF is one of them but being over 40 and first birth may be. At least at Addenbrookes the delivery unit is quite nice and it has 2 birth pools now so you may get that depending on how busy it is.

dildals thanks for the article on the Purple Period. V clear and interesting. Pangolina does have bouts of crying between 5-8 for no reason, which coincide unhappily with dinner and bedtime routine with DS. I've given up sitting down and eating with him because I am instead pacing up and down trying to get Pangolina to hush. It's only a phase! It's only a phase!

noks I only started watching OBEM at about 39 weeks too out of some sort of morbid fascination. Mat leave rocks though. I hope you get at least a week or two but no longer.

euro nice to hear from you too!

Ooh how exciting gin!!!! I hope that all goes smoothly and you have a beautiful bundle in your arms very very soon.

shazza glad you're feeling better. taking xmas one step at a time sounds very sensible.

sweetie amazing to know that today was your last lie in :-). Best of luck for tomorrow.

dildals haven't had a chance to say thankyou for sharing your day with us. It was both heartbreaking and lovely and I'm glad that it helped both you and your dh.

noks having the nursery done must be surreal. I was looking into ours wondering where on earth all the junk in there is going to end up in order to turn it into a proper room....

choco I was one of the people who freaked when the digi didn't go up when i expected it to. I thought it definitely meant something was wrong but we're at 18 weeks and doing fine so far.... Our scan was 7+4 I think and saw fetal pole and heartbeat.

On phone so losing track but wanted to check back in. Our news is that I finally have a bump that other people can notice :-) Definitely bigger in the evening than the morning but feels more real. Now anxiously waiting for identifiable movements. Always something to worry about. Wishing Facebook friends would stop posting links to stillbirth articles though. It is not helping me to maintain my zenlike calm.

Big waves to everyone else. Will be waiting with baited breath for updates!

thatwaymadnesslies I am not much help then!

Hi ladies hope you don't mind me posting but trying to find a place I can fit I guess!

I am 15 weeks pregnant following 4 ivf attempts two fresh and two frozen cycles. The reason we needed ivf is because hubby had testicular cancer so if that wasn't enough to get through we've been on one he'll of a roller coaster to get here.

I'm just feeling rather up and down my 12 weeks scan everything looked fine and I'm now waiting for my first midwife appointment but I've been worrying everything is ok. Sometimes the fear of this going wrong takes me right back to before I got pregnant and my painful formally infertile days. I guess till you can feel baby move there is little reassurance plus as quite tall I'm not showing much at all yet.

Anyway guess I'm just looking for some ladies who'll understand where I'm coming from?

Hi euro I was wondering what was happening with you the other day!!!

dildals looked back and realised how stupid that post was. I don't think of your situation in the same way at all. It's the out of the blue stuff on Facebook that has been increasing my anxiety levels. I don't want people to hide these things at all - just trying not to worry about possibilities that I have no real control over right now. Off to wash my mouth out - it is tasting remarkably like foot.....

Yeesh people, there is too much going on to keep up with here! Will try to remember everyone...
Gin to quote noks, squeeee! Hope all is well. I had the drip with dd1 and had quite a quick labour. Hopefully you will have baby birthday sharing with sweetie if you hang around until midnight like me and shazza!
Sweetie good luck for tomorrow! Top tips from a very inexperienced twin mummy..if you need to pick both babies up, out them down side by side, then scoop one arm under the necks and then the other under the bums...and...you can feed two at the same time but you can't wind two at the same time!
Euro hello again, how are tricks with you?
Mack welcome, this is definitely the right place, we have all been through similar journeys and will not judge any amount of overgoogling, obsessing about symptoms or irrational hatred of instadiffers. Come on in!
Shazza we have good and bad days with the feeding and sleeping. D and D are worse when we have had visitors...annoyingly they are perfectly quiet when people are round, but then an hour or so after they leave they get really unsettled, off their milk, don't want to be put down etc. The lady from the prem team who visits said this is because prem babies get overstimulated really easily and then produce too much adrenaline, so they are really sensitive to noise...Dildals was Bella like this at all? I guess it could easily apply to newborns too, we are trying to keep things fairly chilled (in between watching dd1 practice her street dancing. She goes on a Monday and loves it. Unfortunately they have been dancing to blurred lines lately....who the fuck decided that 3yos should be bum wiggling to a song about rape?!?!?)
Onion I do hope the vomming has stopped. After changing SEVEN nappies in quick succession last night (chain pooing from both D and D) DH and I heard a suspicious noise from the bedside cot...so in near dark, I patted around D and D's heads to check for vom. And put my hand right into a warm pile of baby sick, lovely. After changing the sheets, other Dt was then sick and I did exactly the thing. Ace. dh (metaphorically) pissed himself laughing. Not so funny at midnight.
Re waking to feed...does anyone else do the thing where they set an alarm on their phone to feed (we still can't let D and D go too long as they are still prem) and then feels horribly depressed when the phone says 'this alarm is set for fuck all time from now, so don't even bother attempting to get any sleep'. What a stupid invention.
Sorry to anyone I have missed out, will catch up again soon!

Choco missed you, sorry....step away from the pee sticks! I remember onion telling me that each one has a different level of indicator in it way back in the olden days and now I am sat here just about to feed my twins! I do hope you find the scan reassuring...we had ours at 8 weeks and could clearly see hbs and jelly babies, so waiting it out will hopefully be worthwhile. They early days really do crawl though!
Fairy I feel like a rubbish mum to dd sometimes if D and D are needing something when it is bedtime/mealtime. Today though, she said 'I don't mind you leaving me to look after D and D because when you've finished you come back to me and we have mummy time and I love that'. Totally unprompted and lovely but really made me feel so much better...maybe they are more understanding than we give them credit for.
Pologies for the epic post folks...

Macksie welcome you are definitely in the right place. I'm so sorry about your DHs illness. Congrats on your bfp. To get to the 12 week scan is brilliant so you are well on track. The next few weeks are hard cause there are no scans and youcant feel the baby yet. Once you feel movement it becomes so much more real. Listening to the hb at the MW appts helps.

Madness great to hear from you. I felt the first lovely flutters at about 19-20 weeks and then realised that I'd probably been feeling them for a week or so before that but thought it was wind. Oh it is so exciting to first feel the baby. I envy you that feeling to come.

Fairy shazlett also has crying fits at that time. Our MW calls it the witching hour.

Crisps resounding yes with the slam setting. Tonight shazlett has gone 2.5 hours instead of 5.5. I'm hoping she goes straight back down. Bless your dd1. That is heart melting.

My friend who is a cranial osteopath gave shazlett a treatment yesterday and she seems to be winding much better. I hope it's not just my imagination. He said that she had abit of tension in her diaphragm from the birth but nothing serious and she doesn't feel 'colicky'. i hope it helps. Dildals did you notice an improvement in bella after her treatment?

Hope everyone else is ok. Buzzy it's your first day of mat leave tomorrow. Enjoy it!

gin belated good luck, hope all went/is going well. And very best of luck sweetie for today.

Congratulations to macksie and choco. Choco my early scan was at 6+5. Hang in there -distraction is your friend and step away from the pregnancy tests.

Last week at work for me - drowning under thethe office to do list and Christmas, wake me up when this week is over! (buzzy, did you manage to finish on Friday or have you got another week to go too?) But the good news is that my growth scan was fine and "tardis bump", though measuring a month undersized, is actually hiding a well grown - though breech - baby.

Hi mackie congratulations! I agree those are a tough few weeks. I had quite a few scans pre 12 weeks, then not till 20 weeks. I didn't feel movement until 20 weeks either, with an anterior placenta, and wasn't showing, so felt I could almost not be pregnant. The chance if something having gone wrong without any sign Luke bleeding at this stage is really small. But we know that doesn't stop the worrying.

euro lovely to see you again. Hope you are ok.

ceara breech? Naughty baby. But ginster turned.

GIN!!!!!! Where are you? Hope ginster dib and dab will share a birthday...

Oh yes, I have woken with pamela andersen boobs again. Wtf is that about. Did she not drink enough yesterday? they are quite painful and no way can she drink all that. Do I express or will that just compound things?

Keep mine end up like footballs overnight as well. I just hand express off a tiny bit to soften it so that she can latch on. But then I'm not expressing yet so if you are expressing you could do a little bit maybe.

Ceara hurrah for the tardis! Shame about 1 more week of work but it's the lead up to Xmas surely no one will be doing much?

Have a good day all.

keep I don't think engorgement is a sign the baby didn't feed enough, it's just your supply adjusting. Just keep feeding her on demand and it will match up. I wouldn't express more than a little bit as shazza says as that will just encourage the Pam Ans.

Pangolina surpassed herself by sleeping from 8 until 5am last night and I woke up in a soggy lake of milk! I woke up at some point last night to go to the loo but didn't check the clock because she was quiet. I don't know how she does it really, DS didn't sleep that long until well 2 years old?!!? I just hope it doesn't mess up my supply. She fed at 5, 6:30 and 7:30 tho to make up for it.

macksie welcome to the thread and congrats on the pg and overcoming cancer!

crisps that is so lovely of your DD. I'm really impressed at how articulate she is for 3! DS accepts it but I still feel bad. He does seem besotted with his little sister tho do I hope that makes up for it.

Ok nativity play about to start!

Hi macksie welcome. I know it's difficult, but you're pregnant today and no one can take that day away from you.

thatwaymadnesslies I know what you mean, don't worry! And it's exactly the tight rope that I walk every day with my 34 week pregnant friend and the ones with children and a wish of a few more. I am the glaring billboard of Things You Do Not Want To Think About. At least, that's how I feel. Anyway. Try and enjoy your pregnancy, because there's no point fretting about things that might go wrong.

crisps Bella was quite docile when she came home and didn't seem to mind anything, then when she got a bit older and more settled in, she started to complain more. In the beginning she complained about nappy changes, changes of clothes, being in the car seat, being put in the pram, everything. Now she's more used to those events happening and is more OK with it. I do notice now, at 2 months, that she definitely gets overtired really quickly. Not sure whether that is a prem thing or not. I don't get the impression because I am hearing similar stories from the other mums. How awesome that you have a community prem team btw. They don't have that here.

dildals Pangolina also gets overtired v easily when there is a lot of activity going on. I often overlook it and wonder why she's fretful and then notice the telly, her brother bouncing around, bright lights etc. I think they must be at a stage where they're taking a lot in but don't have the mental resources to process it.

Dildals and Shazza what the fudge does a cranial osteopath do? And might they be able to help dd2 with her wind? Who are these magicians that you speak of?
D and D seem a bit more settled today...we took them aling with us to a 4yobirthday partynthat dd1 was at so thatwe could quickly introduce them to all of our friends without having to feel bad for saying no to cuddles or picking up. They stayed for a out an hour (dh took them for a walk for the rest of the party) and seemed fairly chilled so that is good. They are very noisy (grunty/groany etc) compared to dd1 but prem lady says this is normal. Dildals the prem lady visits as often as you want her to...I don't think she will visit us again as D and D are doing really well and were not too prem compared to some babies, but she is awesome, very chilled out and relaxed which is nice after all the paeds and mws getting stressed when they were 5ml down on a feed! She told us to put them upstairs at bedtime, not to ever bother telling the pharmacy that they were prem if they needed medicine and to ignore GPs who fret. Really reassuring and we have her phone number, she openly said 'call me when you think of a question that you think is stupid, I won't mind' ... Lovely lady!
Thinking of gin and sweetie today, hope all is progressing well for you both.
Noks my lovely sweary namesake twin, how are tricks? Are you holding out for a christmas day arrival? I'd wait until after boxing day if I were you, christmas day tea and boxing day buffetare prime maize-eating opportunities that shouldn't be missed for something as trivial as childbirth...

Babies are here - onion, dildals, fairy, keep, shaz, crisps, mrsHY
Waiting for the news - sweetie, gin

Gin 39 girl
Noks 38 unknown
Ceara 34 boy
Buzzy 34 girl
Motor 26
Madness 18
Mackie 15
Foody 14
Choco 4

Have I missed anyone, and is this right? choco have there been any more BFPs recently on the egg buddies thread?

I'm wondering if those of us with babies should move our baby talk off somewhere else as I feel that it's taking over the thread a bit? We would still hang around here, but not air all our baby-woes. Would that be a good idea? I feel like it's a bit like when we had to move off the ttc thread.

Babies are here - onion, dildals, fairy, keep, shaz, crisps, mrsHY
Waiting for the news - sweetie, gin

Noks 38 unknown
Ceara 34 boy
Buzzy 34 girl
Motor 26
Madness 18
Mackie 15
Foody 14
Choco 4

Hi keep thanks for doing the list. I am 27 weeks now though!

I have no objection to a new thread for those who have given birth, so long as you don't neglect us preggos altogether. I don't mind the amount of baby talk on this thread, but I think it can possibly deter those who may be looking to graduate from egg buddies or similar. I do find it useful to be able to ask advice from those who have given birth/are looking after babies. Not helping much am I?? I'd be interested to hear what others think.

Thinking of you gin and sweetie

Great news on pangolina's sleep fairy - I hope you are doing well and we must catch up soon. X

Sorry, have to dash before addressing everybody I wanted to, as my lunch break appears to have slipped by.

Oh, the cranial osteo didn't make any difference shazz and crisps, well, it did make a difference in my wallet.

Cranial osteopathy is high grade quackery. In my humble opinion.