Join time to evict baby plan.

[Yummymummyyobe1]

So far I have tried:

Raspberry Tea
Warm Baths
The birthing ball

Baby has been 2/5 engaged for ever 8 weeks so far, what is he doing and how is he hanging in there.

Although I do believe that this little one has spoken to his solicitor and has been advised that he is entitiled to stay put until his due date.

So come on ladies lets write a MN eviction plan. xx

JustHayley Harry was born at 04.26 on the morning of April 29th. Bang on time.

I know what everybody means by the obsession I should be sleeping in order to allow my stiches to heal and also to make up for the total lack of sleep last night. I have been weepy today also Confused although I think it is the discomfort of my stiches and only being allowed paracetomol and needing to sleep and being frightened to incase I miss something. DP running around looking after us.

Harry had some issues on Suday BF Kat and so we are doing the same he goes on the breast until he rejects it and we burp him and then offer him the bottle. The MW advised as long as you are getting dirty and wet nappies then baby is fine. Aaron will be fine Kat SMA do a pre made carton which is great and our local Tesco a 250ml carton does a few feeds for 70p.

Harry has passed through the first poos and they are no longer tar like just milky and stinky.

Congratulations on the birth of Aaron glad he was smaller than you thought. Harry was a shock to say the least (mummy and daddy aren't big people). I can't get over how quickly I have shrunk back down to normal. xx

Congratulations Kat! :)

It's lovely to hear how you're all getting on with your new babies.

I'm still very pregnant unfortunately! Had another round of acupuncture today which made me a little sleepy but nothing else to report. Saw the midwife this afternoon and I'll be having a sweep tomorrow (which I'm not looking forward to) and she said that they'd be looking to induce me on Monday if nothing has happened by then. I'd really love not to have to go down the induction route so I'm really hoping for something to happen before then. Fingers crossed!!

Hi laughingGnomette

Baby will be here in no time I promise. I was due for a sweep today oddly enough. Try not to think about it too much as I found once I stopped looking for the "signs" things happened. xx

yummymummyyobe1 congratulations

Thanks Flisspaps. How are you? I can't believe Harry is finally here and I just want to be awake all the time so I can watch him and all the cute things he does everyday.

:) :) :)

I'm fine, spending my days pinned to the sofa by the milk monster who is now a rather robust 11lb 11oz at 17 days Healing nicely, and so far have managed not to be driven bonkers by 2yo DD

Glad your both ok, I've hit a bit of a turmoil, everytime I've fed jake he's been sick and hasn't been thriving, he's not been very alert, won't sleep comfortably and wanted feeding every half an hour. So I have had to make the hard choice to change to formula, which I intended to do but not until 2 weeks old at least.first day of formula is today, he hasn't been sick once, and he's slept extremely well and is very content and happy, he even sat in his bouncer wide eyed! However, this had all made me feel extremely useless, I couldn't stop crying especially when talking to the midwife. I feel like a complete failure, and ashamed of my self for not feeding him for longer. I keep in the back of my mind thinking maybe its not my milk what's making him be sick, but it has to be either that or something within it that I've eaten that he reacts with.his dad was lactose intolerant as a baby so not sure if there's a connection.
Midwife is concerned about my feelings right now, I feel as though I couldn't cope, however that was until DS2 has become so happy. I feel very relaxed tonight, flisspaps how is your 2 year old DD with you?? As another thing that's really upsetting me is my DS1, he's 3 and he doesn't want to know me, will not cuddle me, kiss me, hold my hand, I'm not allowed to do anything not even open a pacck of sweets for him, all I get is "daddys turn" n refuses to let me.

Oh Confuzed pleased don't feel like a failure. We have had to put Aaron on formula too as he loves my nipples (as in sucking on them) but does not feed on them.

Aaron is also a lot more alert on formula, his suck reflex on the bottle is becoming really good, only prob is where he has gone from eating almost nothing to trying 1.5 - 2oz (midwife said this is fine btw although the packet says 3oz at this age anything between 1 and 3 oz is fine) we have had a few projectile vomiting episodes.

He is also struggling with wind so is on infacol but hey ho, as long as he is ok that's all that matters. As the midwife who visited yesterday said, babies don't care where they get their milk from as long as they get fed.

Let us all know how you're feeling when you have time and do not let ANYONE (even yourself) feel bad/guilty or any other negative emotion for feeding your baby in the way that works for you and your family.

BIG HUGS xxx

confuzed You are categorically NOT a failure. Look at that lovely baby you have there - YOU did that. You conceived him, you carried him and you gave birth to him. You keep him warm, safe and fed (however that may be).

BF is such an emotional thing, it's bound to be - it's a hormonally triggered process, but please, please don't beat yourself up about stopping. You've done fantastically :)

It's pure luck I've got this far with DS - with DD she was having formula top ups from 3 days old when the MWs put the fear of God into me by saying she was borderline for losing too much weight, and I stopped BF completely after a short time because I was too shy to do it in public and it broke my bloody heart, I felt a failure because I was putting her on 'the dreaded bottle' because I was embarrassed, not because of any medical reason so I understand. Anyway, she was of course fine, as are your lovely children, and there was nothing bad or wrong or shameful about using formula :)

Just as a thought though, if you're using bog standard formula then there's going to be lactose in that as well. It could just be pure coincidence that he's slept better and been chirpier during his awake time today, and nothing to do with the formula. If you want to try and keep up the BF then have you tried speaking to a BF counsellor or a lactation specialist or something?

DD largely ignores DS to be honest, she's been a bit funny with me and DH but is starting to settle a bit now. Bedtimes have been horrendous, and she won't let us out of her sight if she can help it - almost as if she's worried that we're going to suddenly produce another baby from somewhere if she takes her eyes off us for too long.

I'm feeling a bit better today, had a bit of a cry this morning about it, and probably will to the midwife tomorrow as well. He is just so demanding and such a hungry baby, no wonder I coudnt keep up with him, with him being sick on breast milk as well he was also feeding every half an hour. He now has 3ounce bottles..scoffs the lot and wants more in 2-3 hours! Such a piggy! But that's a good think, midwife was also concerned about his urine and poo when on breastmilk, he wasn't weeing a lot at all, or pooing for that matter but his poos wernt going to the colour and consistency their meant to be. Which showed there was a problem. I hardly had to change his nappy, now it seems that all he does is poo and wee! Nappies always full which is great. I feel a bit better today though, been to asda with him and DP whilst DS1 was at nursery, so had some free 'us' time. And DS is at nursery tomorrow to so we're going to register jake.
Bit concerned about DS1 (alex) as we have been told that today at nursery he was very quiet, just wanted cuddles and wasn't interested in anyone. When he was asked about his baby brother he just kept saying "no baby".

I am using SMA, I used it for DS1 and never had problems. I do feel very down about stopping bf, I feel that its my job to, but as jake seems a lot happier I know its for the best. Just sad to not feel that 'closeness' now. When milks gone I will give him more skin to skin cuddles. Just even his cry sets off my sore boobs!

Flisspaps I know that feeling Harry is a very hungry little man at 6 days old . It was all worth it though when the MW weighed him yesterday and said he had only lost 2oz which is very little . He does make me laugh
though when he trys to suck on daddy's nipples. He then looks very confused when nothing happens. I have to say I am a little uncomfortable with the stiches and perhaps should take things a little easier but we are out most days and somehow keeping on top of the house work .

Confused don't feel bad/guilty you are not a faliure. I had problems earlier in the week it will get easier I promise. Remember baby Jake is okay and most importanly he has a mummy who loves him lots and knew what was best for his tummy. Have you tried to express into a bottle as he gets the milk and the closeness without the sore boobs. The only downside is your boobs leak far more (I feel like a Jersey Heffer with the amount that comes out)

SMA is great we have a big jar here for top up feeds. They also do a carton of premade stuff which is great to have in for the nappy bag Tesco do it for 69p for 250ml.

How is Aaron getting on Kat ? Harry gets loads of wind also but he often brings it up/down before we can even burp him. More often than not the bottom burps are followed by a very healthy nappy. I am sure he is trying to use a months supply of nappies and wipes in a matter of days.

xx

Their just about dried up now. Its really sad and its been hard, he has calmed down with the sickness, he's a lot more content, sleeps better and also now has plenty wet nappies and his poos are now normal. Midwife was a bit concerned as his poos where abnormal and very few wees when breastfeeding, I know I have done what's best for my boy but its just hard.xx

Hey all hope everyone is ok.

Aaron is doing well thank you. He is taking just over 2oz now on about 50% of his feeds so we are feeling a lot more relaxed. He is also weeing loads more. He poos frequently but never very much - waiting for his first explosion!! I have also started to express so he gets some BM but from a bottle so we know how much he drunk. At risk of sounding selfish I am not sure how long I can keep that up for as although I am getting good quantities (4oz last pump) it takes ages and I feel I am neglecting DS1.

He is not very impressed with his brother - keeps telling him to stop crying and always wants something just when you start a feed/nappy change/cuddle etc but won't cuddle us while we are seeing to Aaron (ie he wants a cuddle from me when I'm giving Aaron a bottle but won't cuddle me as I have Aaron). He did push his pram when we were out though (and not into the path of a moving car)

TMI ALERT -

I haven't had any trouble going for no 2 since having Aaron (even with my 2nd degree tear) however, today I just can't go but it feels like I have pressure (erhm) there in my bum which is VERY uncomfortable - normal or should I keep an eye on it?

How are those ladies who are still pregnant? Hope you're not too fed up now.

Confused it sounds like you are doing really well. Much better than I would in the same situation. Remember that you are doing the best thing, and listening to your body.

Kat That is great news the midwife says as long as baby is weeing and pooing regulary then they are getting pleanty to eat. It is not selfish hun. I had the same feeling on Sunday when we got home as Harry has fed twice in the hospital and just wouldn't latch at home. When I express, I tend to try and get 120ml (4oz) as it is around two feeds which is great as I know Harry is getting a good feed.

DS1 will adjust to Aaron it can take a little time (from what people tell me.) It is a good thing that he wanted to push the pram.

My MW explained that the pressure in your bum is normal as you can become a little constipated after baby is born, and you should not try to force it. She did mention that they can give you something to help. Make sure you are drinking plenty of water as this will soften everything (TMI).

I had an idea ladies as we are all in the same position with tiny new babies we could exchange numbers so that if we are having a bad day then we can offer each other some real time support. xx

Hi ladies! We made it! My 9lb 10oz boy Peter was born at 12 noon on the 4th may by emergency c-section after labouring with him back to back for 20 hours. I can't say it was how id dreamed my delivery would be but it was worth it!! He is absolutely gorgeous with masses of jet black hair on his head. I've found the recovery from the c-section pretty frustrating in terms of how I've been able to hold and carry him but he seems to be doing pretty well at breast feeding so far.
Thanks again for all your support during these past few weeks :)

Congratulations LaughingGnomette he is a big lad. Enjoy your little man now he is here, you will not want to ever put him down. xx :)

I'm happy to exchange numbers..I have blackberry so able to bbm or txt.could do with the extra support, although I do love mumsnet :)

Hope all you ladies and babies are ok.

Still having probs with DS1. I know he needs time to adjust but it is like living with Jeckyl and Hyde at the moment. Even my DH was reduced to tears by him today (more likely through being tired as well).

Aaron is doing really well though. He is now drinking 3oz sometimes which is a massive improvement and is feeding approx every 2-3 hrs in the day but going 4hrs in the night which is fab!

Aww that's good kat, he's sleeping well!! My DS1 has been being a pain as well! Throwing tantrums, screaming, crying, although he is great with jake, cuddles and kisses him, having a bit of a turn around today however so far he has been quite good. Hope it stays as DP is working 12 hour days this week.

Jakes doing great now he's on formula, good poos and plenty of wees. Woke up once last night for a feed, he's on 3-4ounce, clears a 3 ounce bottle. And goes 3 hours in day and 4-6 in night, all depends. Well last night he had his last bottle at 9, got up at half 2, then half 6. So he's not doing too bad.

That is great kat so glad Aaron is doing well. Glad Jake is doing well Confused it is nice when baby's are doing well.

Harry woke once last week for a feed and he seems hungry all the time some days last night he drank 180ml in one feed and then woke at 08:00 and had a good BF, he has also drank another 2 bottles of 180ml and a couple of BF. I think we might need some of the hungry baby formular.

He is also going through nappies like they are going out of fashion, you wind him and he fills a nappy . The MW visits tomorrow, have you seen much of the MW we saw them three times last week and then once this week. We might have pop to the DRs as Harry seems to have a cold. xx

We saw them twice last week, once this week and have seen the HV too. Not got anyone until a week tomorrow now so we seem to be being left to our own devices (which is not really a bad thing).

Aaron will drink a max of 3oz and then it's hit and miss if he keeps it down. He has put on weight though so that is obviously ok for him.

My milk supply is now diminishing and it takes around 1hr to express 2oz. Think I will have to stop soon which is sad but I don't have the time to do it with a 4 year old when DH goes back to work. We have tried getting Aaron to go onto the breast (as we were told he is so young we could try) but he just doesn't "get it" and he is happy on the bottle (although he prefers my breastmilk to formula). I do find it hard to settle him just after I have expressed though as he can "smell me" which, again, will be a 'mare when DH is back in work. Is anyone else dreading that because I am. To be frank, I am completely shitting myself with having to look after the two of them on my own.....

Hope everyone is ok.

Hi Kat, we saw the MW today and the HV should visit next week. We nearly fell through the floor when Harry was weighed today and he is now a very healhty 8lbs 9oz so a grand gain of 6lbs in 11 days.

I am having the same issue with expressing at the moment the MW suggested drinking more water as your body uses more when you are BF. You have done really well Kat and it sounds as though Aaron is doing relly well. I think Harry is just a guzzle guts.

Try not to worry about having both DC on your own when DH goes back to work, you will be fine. xx

kat my P has been back at work when jake was just 3 days old, he has been doing overtime, 12 hour days,nights and weekends. It is hard, just try not to panic though and youl be fine, I was hysterical the first few nights. And now I will admit I feel absolutely exhausted as I'm having to do the house, cleaning, washing,cooking aswell. I say 'P' instead of DP because wev hit a rough patch. And quite frankly I am upset he went to work so early, this wasn't the agreement and I begged him not too! So I'm having a rough time, I'm doing jake day and night plus DS1, alex all day.(He sleeps at night).

Jake feeds 3-4ounce every 2-3 hours.formula. He is a real piggy!! His weight went from 7Ib 10 (birth) to 7Ib 6 (this was when I was BF) and shot up to 7Ib 15 in 6 days!!!(Changed to formula-stopped being sick)

hope everyones ok...and yummy how's harry's cold?
Xx

Hi Confused, Sorry to hear things aren't going to well that end. Hopefully things will get better for you soon. Harry is a piggy he can manage 8oz with no troubles and still cry's for more .com. Glad to hear that Jake is doing so much better on the formular and gainig weight so well.

Harry is stil a little snuffly but seems to be getting a little better, it is so frustrating that that you can't give them anything at this point and even Vics is a no no!! Although a touch of Olbas on a muslin cloth near to the moses basket seems to do the trick.

Has anybody noticed that their LO's skin seems to be drying out? Harry seems to have very dry,peeling skin on his hands and feet. xxx

Aarons skin is quite flaky as he was overdue. We have been using Johnson's naturals lotion which has been fab and smells amazing but if u would rather something unperfumed plain old olive oil is fab albeit messy.

Have had to stop expressing as been put on citalopram for anxiety re germs. On day 2 and want to stop them already as feel so spaced out. Being referred for cbt too so want to just do that. Makes me feel bad though as if I do stop them what a shit I had to stop expressing :(