Due in Oct 2012 - part 4!

[Angelico]

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Hi everyone. Congratulations on the scan Kyyria. It feels like forever since I've had mine!
Well I've had a lovely day but being offered baby stuff has really put me on a downer and a whirlwind of emotions.. It all feels so overwhelming and theres just so much STUFF. And I have nowhere to put it as we currently have no room in this house (we live with DP's parents). All these lovely people keep offering me things and I just want to burst into tears. Someone tell me this is normal! I'm not sure I really like being pregnant. I'm so excited for the baby but actually being pregnant is hard work.
I think I'll feel better when I have an actual bump, because at the moment I just look fat. Which is a bit wierd for me (I'm not bragging, I promise) as I've always been small and petite and just generally quite thin..
Oh dear, what a depressing post. Hello to everyone and wishing you all some happiness!! Embarassing bodies is on now so maybe there'll be something to er.. laugh at on there

If anyone wants a laugh!!

Good luck at EPU Angelico. Hope it's something of nothing but well worth getting checked out.

Fantastic - thanks for the link mickey

Thanks Midget. Stressful :(

Congrats on the scan kyrria! I have to wait til Friday for mine (EDD 30th Oct) and I think i MUST be the last person on this thread to have it. I had the booking in appointment today which was extremely efficient and I now really feel like I'm in the system. Bit nervous about the scan. I asked the midwife what the percentage was of scans with a good outcome and she said she didn't know, which surprised me. Anyway, only a few more days to wait.

Angelico that sounds worrying. Poor you. Sure the docs will be able to advise and well done you on getting it checked out.

This week I feel like I'm coming out of the fog of trimester 1 exhaustion and realising that I really haven't been Employee of The Year over the last few months. I've done my job, sure, but I certainly haven't been proactively driving the business forward. Time to step on it and focus!

The other really really lovely news is that my best friend (who's been trying for YEARS) is up the duff. I'm so excited for her and delighted too that I don't have to try to not mention it all.

Happy sleeps and sticky beans to everyone!

Good luck angelico~, fingers crossed its nothing untoward. x

Good luck Angelico

Is anyone else experiencing back pain? It seems way to early to be pregnancy related but I have a dull ache in my lower back, with occasional stronger, shooting pains.

Any news yet Angelico? Not had any back pain like you describe Orange only what I get through work anyway,sorry to be of no help whatsoever!! Hope you get to the bottom of it soon :)

Congrats on the scan Kyria goog luck telling work today.

Nothing to report otherwise,finally have a day off today so am not going anywhere today & am hoping to peel myself off sofa to do some housework soon,but firstly will finish watching this film...

No, it's not too early for lower back ache- it's either due to the pressure from your swelling uterus (I get that and it's very similar to the back pain I used to get during my period) and it can also be due to your hormones softening your ligaments in your sacroiliac joint. I woke up at the weekend with a really sore bum, deep in my pelvic bones on both sides which I put down to this softening. It was ok after a couple of days.
www.babycentre.co.uk/pregnancy/antenatalhealth/physicalhealth/pelvicgirdlepain/
www.babycenter.com/0_round-ligament-pain_205.bc
I get plenty of shooting stretching feelings in my lower abdomen- it's odd. Although my main problem at the moment is wind. Sexy, huh?
Angelico, hoping everything is ok with you and you get the answers you need.

milk - thanks! Will probably buy that actually :)

Kyria add my congrats to the good scan news - and where do you get alcohol free cider from? If I can buy it locally, that's my summer sorted!

A friend gave me a load of baby stuff at the weekend - so much, in fact, that we had to enlist her husband as well as mine to carry it all back to ours! (We live around the corner). How could one tiny little baby need so much STUFF??

Half of it was nifty reusable nappies - uk.bambinomio.com/uk if anyone's interested. The 'starter kits' are stupid-grade expensive, but I guess when compared with the cost of disposables, they're probably pretty cheap! I have no idea, all I know is that if I've got them if I want them at no cost so I'm very, very grateful.

Zoeplankton I used re-usable nappies for DS1 at they are briliiant! The Bees Knees! I still have the same set to use for this baby, and the have saved me a lot of money. Plus, big fluffy nappy bums are the cutest! I can also recommend www.thenappylady.co.uk and clothnappytree (a forum). I used Bumbo birth to potty nappies for DS1, and this time I've bought a few Lil' Joey nappies incase I have another tiny baby. Last time I found the Bumbos to be to bulky on my 6lb 5oz baby. Lil' Joeys are tiny.

LondonMrsS, so it's normal? I've just seen my cousin go through the most awful time with SPD and I got worried.

Well I would say a few aches and pains are normal, but if it's really bad or you are concerned, it's always better to talk to someone with a medical degree!

Oh, by the way Zoe I think you can get alcohol free cider at M & S.

Hi all,

Thanks for your continuing support in my trying situation. MidgetM - thanks for the offer! :) Actually, the more DP told me about what all the issues were the more I wanted to proceed with the ?slap? option (also advocated by Yomping I believe and lisbethopposite - not a wise one I know but, in a parallel universe, where it isn?t illegal, like in Norway, a desirable one ). Turns out she has been too embarrassed to tell her friends she has a step mum and now worries how the hell she?ll ?explain away? a baby brother or sister on top of that and she?s still ?not ready? to tell them all about it but hey ? it?s been 2 years, she needs to come to terms with it now and realise her friends don?t really care about her family set up half as much as she thinks... Worries were also that life will become ?horrible? as she?ll be kept awake all night and that we won?t be able to have a proper holiday this year as I?ll be too pregnant to go anywhere (which may actually be true esp if I end up with PE or something although I?ve told DP worse come the worse he can take them alone ? but hey, ta!) and that I will ruin any holiday by needing to stop for the loo all the time!?! . The rest of it seemed to be worrying about her mother?s reaction and (touch wood) after DP handled said ex with kid gloves, seems she?s going through a rare phase of behaving like an adult. So far, so good. Just have to pray that no negative influencing of the girls goes on over there behind closed doors. However I?m sure you?re right Angelico; I?m confident they?ll both fall in love with the baby once it?s here.

Having a bit of a nightmare week as my bid to become a ?proper citizen? on Monday failed as I?m currently without work or job offer and apparently being pregnant with a Norwegian's child counts for nothing at all if you're not married (and I thought this was a 'modern' country!?!). Seems I won?t get my ?rights? until I have the proceeds from my flat in the bank (and I haven?t sold it yet) so I have to try and get my ante-natal care initially via my E111 card (hope UK will cover this fully) so I feel pretty insecure and unsettled. Also trying to import my car this week which is like a 4-day process, that has been complicated by the fact I?m not a ?citizen? as I expected to be and we?re having to think of lots of creative ways to go through with it as we can?t really legally reverse the process.

Whilst I?m moaning, also suffering from slightly swollen feet & ankles already (anyone else?) although that may be partly due to the long drive and an old sprain injury that tends to flare up every so often. I need a LOT more ?feet up? time!! :) Also seem to be suffering from Carpal Tunnel syndrome, some days worse than others. But hey, on the upside, I?m 2nd trimester, have more energy, less sickness, less brain fog (can do ?Hard? sudokus again :) ? was relegated to ?medium? ones during 1st trim) and the zits are abating. But hey - compared to others on this thread & another I'm on, my problems are few so I'm determined not to indulge myself in too much self-pity.

Right. A rare hour or two to please myself so I?m going to read the rest of your posts since Sunday over a nice coffee (I never gave up my one cup a day ? the irresponsible harridan that I am!) and catch up on all your news. xx

Ah I've missed you all :) It's good to be back. Have caught up on most of the posts. Hope I haven't missed anything.

OctoberOctober, IWantAnOrange etc. ? on the tiredness thing ? it really took me until at least week 14.5 to stop feeling systemically tired. It is supposed to be true that you feel less tired in the 2nd trimester but it is also true (according to the pregnancy updates I get sent to my phone ) that we should be getting 7-8 hours sleep per night plus a ?1 ? 2 hour siesta in the afternoon? ? so essentially, optimally 10 hours sleep per day. Pregnancy takes an extra toll on the body and I think it?s hardly surprising that working hard & being extra busy (whilst possibly not getting 10hrs sleep!) would make one feel shattered with so much extra activity going on in your body. I wish some of the pregnancy advice they give was more practical for real women in the real world!

Dame - I can?t remember how far along you are, but I am just about sometimes not getting up to pee in the night now (15 + 2), especially if I ?double void? before bed (was getting up twice a night in the 1st trim). I?m quite sure this gets worse again towards the 3rd trimester though, the bigger one gets!

MidgetM - envying you and others who are not showing yet. I have got to the stage where I have a definite biggish bump rather than just looking fat and the ?bump touching? has officially started this weekend just gone, with my FIL taking first dibs?

velo - In AWE of your cross-country skiing exploits! I was warned firmly off it this winter due to ?falling? risk so a bit jealous that you actually went.

Angelico - I don?t know anything about what you referred to but I do hope you?re alright. EPU sounds like the best place to get some reassurance. Do keep us posted.

Congrats to Kyyria & LondonMrsS on their scans! :)

Orange I?m with LondonMrsS on the shooting ligament pains and back pain (although both have eased a bit this week for me ? 15th). My sacroiliac plays up at the slightest exertion or lifting and I had a lot of pelvic-related back pain in the 1st trim. I think it?s relatively normal, especially if, like me, you have any extra weight on or not well-developed core/abdominal muscles ? annoying but normal. SPD is something else altogether. I had some pelvic girdle pain early in my first trim which would occasionally keep me awake at night but it has eased off now. There?s a lot going on with your pelvis & ligaments right now. Keep an eye on it but if it comes and goes and you?re not in consistent agony I?d say it?s probably par for the course.

Hi peeps, will have proper catch up later but went to EPU. Of course discharge had gone, no pressure today . They did scan plenty of fluid round baby and no sugar in urine. Said it might just be fruit etc in diet making urine or discharge smell sweet. Checked cervix no fluid pooling.

Had spec exam and it was fine at time but I am really uncomfortable now :( And pressure and sweetish smell back, also cramping a little. Going to lie down for a while :(

Hi. Wanted to thank you for your messages of support. Means a lot to me.

Very exhausted with job, but:- finally managed to get someone to do me a risk assessment today, they immediately said I shouldn't be working 80 hour weeks or night shifts or 12 days in a row, and they are taking me off the full on call rota. I'll still do the long days and evenings but it shouldn't ever work out more than 48 hours in a week or more than 5 days in a row. I am SO RELIEVED. I feel like crying. She also said I need to eat more - hey what else is new - but she is/was a nurse so she said she understands sometimes it's just nonstop. The job is busy and I'm on my feet all day and quite physical at times, but I'm sure I can manage it with reduced hours. It was the night shifts I was most scared of - they are so intense and you never get a break, or even a sit down. Days are not so hectic.

Nearly fainted yesterday on the ward round, extremely embarrassing, never had anything like that happen to me before. Been ok since though.

A couple of people at work know I'm pregnant, most don't yet. The comment I seem to get a lot is "god you don't LOOK like you're 17 weeks". The joys of working in scrubs... I have an almost-bump if I wear something very tight, but not otherwise. I have bump-envy though - the grass is always greener eh!

And I am all aglow because I had my 16-20 week appointment with the midwife this morning and she heard little squid's heartbeat. Made it even more real than a scan. 155 beats a minute. It took her less than a second to find it. Very loud and clear. She said, "close your eyes and listen to that!" and I did, and I cried, and it was wonderful.

I am now off to my "pregnancy yoga" class like a right hippy. It has a whole section where you just lie on the floor relaxing! Seems like the right kind of exercise right now :)

thanks again guys
squid, 17 weeks today!

Hi all,

Angelico, sorry you've been so worried. If it's any consolation (and not TMI), my ahem ,discharge, goes through a whole range of smells and consistencies, sometimes very sweet, and it doesn't seem to bel anything to worry about.

Kyrria, high five for good scan, and LondonLivvy, awaiting news of yours with bated breath (will have to keep it bated for a long time as your scan isn't till Friday!)

FjordMor, am ashamed of myself for suggesting the slap, hopefully you realised it was fairly tongue in cheek, and it wasn't particularly at all supportive of me. Glad things seem to have calmed down.

Squid, I let out an involuntary "Yes!!!" when I read your post. Have been worried about your situation and VERY pleased you've been given a reprieve. Well done for not giving up. And congrats on the heartbeat.

WantAnOrange and ZoePlankton, are re-usable nappies the ones you have to wash, and do they make your house smell of baby poo? Sorry to ask but this is what I've heard and I'd like to be eco friendly but I would not like my house to smell of baby poo any more than is necessary!

Mickey, I know what you mean about not liking being pregnant sometimes. When I am in a negative mood, I think that being pregnant is not really a joy. It has made me tired, fat, spotty, forgetful, uncomfortable, unable to hold any kind of liquid for more than half an hour too big for my bike trousers... I am having to sell my bike and lots of other stuff in a sudden, unprecedented attack of sensibleness and downsizing. We are having to save lots of money for baby bits and we don't even know where to start with that! It sucks, quite a bit, sometimes . So I sympathise. But then, we're having babies, yay! And they're cute, and sweet, and lovely. At least, all of ours will be

Well, my news is that I tripped and fell down that last 2 steps of the stairs at work today, doh, swollen ankle but no other damage. Told most of the people at work who don't know, and the "rumour mill" (aka our Resources lady) is doing the rest. Lots of smiles, squeals and hugs, it has been lovely. My bike trousers are officially Very Tight, DH laughed at my bulge . No-one has bid on my bike yet so I am having fantasies about keeping it but if it hasn't sold by Friday, I have to ride it to the local Yamaha dealer and trade it in on Saturday when we pick up our new one. I'm resigned but still sad.

Also, it is DH and my 3 year anniversary today - 3 years ago today we met in person after lots of Facebook-based flirting over the previous week. He picked me up in Northampton, drove me to North Wales on a climbing club meet, we started talking and haven't stopped yet! Going out for a meal to celebrate tonight.

And after that epic post, I'm off!

36 (only for another month, gulp), 15 + 4, DC1

YAY squidkid so pleased for you!!!! Hooray for risk assessment lady telling it like it is. And hearing the heartbeat is just lovely, eh? I blubbed at both of my scans. Enjoy your yoga!

Fjord you have the patience of a SAINT. Glad DP's ex appears to behaving maturely (we hope). Pain about your immigration stuff but all will be well, I'm sure? Norway is one of these uber-civilised countries, compared to poor old bailed out Ireland for me as a forriner. They're hardly going to turn away a pregnant lady for antenatal care are they??

Angelico very very glad to hear everything was all clear at your appointment. Take it easy this evening - everything will be fine :)

Well, work went better than expected

Our senior partner was brief and not really wanting to go into detail but did pass on her congratulations. I honestly thought she was going to have a sour face so this was quite a positive reaction!

The nurses, reception team and other doctors have been lovely.

Think the most disappointing reaction was from my own team. There are a lot of office politics in our building (all departments), not least the fact that the office gossip (who is in my team) seems to think there are favourites etc because 3 or 4 of us live in the same village and therefore offer each other lifts rather than use 4 cars to the same place of work (makes sense to me!). One of the girls was quite worked up today because she had been stewing on things all weekend and didn't want to tell me what had been said 'cos she didn't want to upset me. Needless to say it all boiled down to the fact that office gossip is pssed off that she hasn't been the first to know and that there are cliques in the office. In all honesty the only reason some of the other staff knew was because a couple of weeks ago I was having a sht day, had tears before 10:30am and put my foot in it when my mouth opened before my brain engaged! Anyway, that's their issue... God, you wouldn't think I work in an office where I'm one of the youngest and the average age is nearer 60!!!

Anyway - it's all announced and no longer has to be kept a secret

Dont envy your office politics Kyria unfortunately some peolpe think it's their god given right to know everything about everyone.We all have at least one in life,I would just rise above it if I were you & if she pipes up making snide comments about not knowing you can always turn it around on her & make her feel incredibly guilty for being such a twat!!!!

If it's any help at all one of my 'friends' behaved this way with me when I told my circle of girls as I'd seen her a couple of days before & chose not to tell,she was most disgruntaled so I told her (with hormones) that I didnt have to tell her at all & she doesnt need to know every last detail of my world needless to say she has been quite supportive since & hasnt assumed she should know everything!!

Hope that's a bit of help,I just wanted to emphasise that in life some people are idiots & dont think before they put their judgemental head on :)

guccigirl that has brought a large smile to my face

Thanks!

Oh Kyyria I know how you feel, I am the second youngest girl in our work place and I actually wonder how all these women are still there and actually Still have gossip to talk about!!! Sympathy for you it can make you feel so down sometimes.. I have now put practise (for a good 3 years) in the policy of "Keep your mouth shut and your ears shut, and dont trust anyone (in my workplace anyway)" and then no-one can accuse you of being involved! :]

mickey I'm definitely heading down the route of keeping my gob shut! Have been practising that for some time but this lady is in a league of her own!

She takes delight in b*tching about anyone and everyone - always so pleasant to people's faces and yet a complete cow behind their backs. And yet they're the ones who get defensive when people point out that she's two-faced...little do they know! She is a smiling knife!

I'm chilling in the fact that if she wants to be nasty that's her issue - I really don't have the energy (literally ) to be sucked into her world...and to be honest me not giving a cr@p will annoy her even more evil cackle

I say this now...but reserve the right to be a hormonal blubbering cry baby in the future if she p*sses me off again!

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