Pregnancy post mc: Totally's grads part 9

[bigmacandhappymeal]

New thread!

Thanks for all your lovely thoughts about Suki ladies - much appreciated.

Hugs for collie - these things can really trip us up sometimes. Hope you don't get too sad when you see her next time.

What is owlet up to?! Hope you get the nice m/w owl - evil ones send shivers down my spine....

Good luck to you and the follies today dachs - thinking of you lots.

Monday 8th August 2011

(Adding 5 dates to everyone shouldn't have been so difficult, but it was. Please excuse any brian errors)

Inbetweener - baby#3 43+2 wks EDD 17th July
Owlbooty - baby#1 40+1 weeks EDD 7th August
PrettyVacant - baby#1 37+2 weeks EDD 28th August
OrangeGloss ? baby#1 36+1 weeks EDD 4th September
Wombat33 - baby#1 35+2 weeks EDD 10 September
Daisybell - baby#1 34+6 weeks EDD 13 September
PinkFondantFancy - baby#1 32+6 weeks EDD 25 September
Tiggersreturn babies #2&3 32+6 wks EDD 26 September
Mamapower - Baby#1 32+6 weeks EDD 28 September
A lovely bunch of coconuts baby #2 32+2 weeks EDD 1 october
Emoo - baby#2 31+3 weeks EDD 7 October
Tunnocksteacake - baby#2 29+0 weeks EDD 24th October
Hotnspicyonions - baby#2 29+0 weeks EDD 24th October
Velvetcu - baby#1 28+6 wks EDD 25th October
MummyAbroad baby #2 27+3 wks EDD 4th November
CEP baby #2 27+2 wks EDD 5th Nov
Katherine2008 baby#2 26+4 EDD 10 November
Collieandpup baby #1 25+1 wks EDD 20th Nov
Wombatinwaiting - baby # 1 24+4 wks EDD 24th November
LaraMi baby #1 24+3 weeks EDD 25th November
Izzy - baby #3 24+2 wks EDD 26th November
Bigmacandhappymeal - baby#1 23+6 weeks EDD 29th November
Blackkat - baby #1 23+0 wks EDD 5th December
Harassedandherbug - baby #4 20+4 wks EDD 22 December
Youremindmeofthebabe Baby#2 18+5 EDD 5th Jan
LivinInTheMoment - Baby#1 wks? EDD? waiting for first scan

Waiting to join the list (lurkers):
Please add yourselves in if you wish!

MIA
Tigerbear - baby#1 EDD 14th May
Wobblewatcher - baby#2 EDD 27th June
emmywoo
Purplehibiscus
Lucysnowe

The babies are arriving! Huge congratulations to:

Totally with daughter Faith Juliet, 9lb5oz born Tuesday 16th February 2010
Amyboo with son Matthew James, 4.714kg (10lb3oz) born Tuesday 30th March 2010
Hoops with son Benjamin Scott, 7lb4oz born Friday 2nd April 2010
Memorylapse with daughter Olivia, born Friday 16th April 2010
Jacanne with daughter Lotta Eliza, 8lbs 5oz born 20th April 2010
Becky78 with son Thomas Christopher born 22nd May, 9lb 1oz
Meita with son Ianto born 23 August, 7lbs 4
Boodleboot with daughter Alice Elizabeth born 10 Sep - 8lbs 2oz
LeeWT with son Andrew Anthony born 28th Sept 7lbs 14oz
TFLS with son Charlie born on 30th September, 6lbs 8oz
SamB with daughter Ruby Mae born 19th October, 7lbs 10oz
Effilump with son Arlen born 16th October, 8lbs
Sarahlou8 with daughter Emily Isabella born 21st October, 7lb8oz
Unbuffy with son James Anthony born 3rd December, 6lb8oz
HappyGirl with daughter Ciara born 10th December, 8lb2oz
Malteser1981 with son Eli born 18 December, 8lb 6oz
Zayja with daughter Winona born 19 December, 7lbs 11oz
Sparklyrainbow with son Alex born 28th December, 9lb 7oz
GoodLuckBear with son James born 25th December, 8lb
BunnyBaby with son Daniel George born 5th January 2011, 10lb 1oz
AlbaDeTamble - with son born 10th Jan 2011, 8lbs 10oz
Gilda - with son Ren born 10th Jan 2011, 8lb 4oz
WestYorkshireGirl - with daughter Hester Rose born 14th Jan 2011, 6lb 4oz
Redheadgal - with daughter Cecily Anne born 13th Jan 2011, 8lbs 13oz
Toomuchteaching - with daughter Jemima born 17th Jan 2011, 8lb1/4oz
Dorcas111 - with daughter born 4th February 2011 8lbs 5oz
Clareanna - with son Tobias born 10th February 7lbs 10oz
Muser - with daughter born 15th February 6lbs 12oz
Ba8y1 ? with son born Tuesday 15th February, 8lbs 11oz
Lotta123 - with baby born Monday 21st February
Magic8ballhastheanswers - Identical twin girls, born 27th February 6lb8 & 5lb15
Northerngoldilocks - with son born Wednesday 16th March, 9lb 6oz
Stuffedmk - with son Thomas, born Wednesday 23rd March
Hopefully - with son, born 29th March 7lb 12oz
Lia - with daughter, born 1st April 8lb 11oz
PenguinsMummy - with daughter Clodagh
VivClicquot - with daughter, Phoebe, born Thursday 28 April, 7lb 5oz
Ivysedai - with son, born Tuesday May 2nd 3.83KG
Loopymumsy - with daughter, born Thursday 12th May, 7lb 15oz
Caribou - with son, Caleb, born Saturday 28 May, 9lb 1oz
LittleMiss - with son- born Wednesday 1st June 7lb 1oz
appleblossoms - with son Malachi, born Wednesday 15th June, 9lb 4oz
crochetcircle - with daughter born Sunday 26th June, 8lb 4oz.
urbanlolly - with daughter born Tuesday 19th July, 8lb 3oz.
Nickster - with son Corey born Tuesday 2nd August

In our thoughts and prayers:
Louise with daughter Georgie born asleep on 10th October
Dachs with her babies Alexander and Felicia who left the world asleep on 21st May

We share the pain and and mourn the loss with:
Jollster, Cheepz, Freezing, BarrenBrook, MsJL, LadyBee, Banana87, BatteryHen, HairyTriangle and Waterplate

Owl hope you are doing ok???

Dachs hope all has gone well this morning and that the early morning train wasn't too bad.

WIW so sorry to hear the news about Suki, hope you're having a better day today.

Irene so nice to hear from you - nothing purchased here either, nor likely to be for a while.

Coconuts thanks for your thread, I've seen some really good ideas there, but it still feels comfortingly a long way off.

Purpletoes YAY for good scan, hope the superglue means you're staying?

Collie ((hugs)) not an easy thing to cope with

lara how are you??

to everyone else, must try and engage brain with work

Collie Totally understand what you're talking about and sending large hugs. You be as mental and hormonal and irrational as you like. I'm a big believer in letting this sort of stuff out, even if it's just posting it in here - I really don't believe keeping it all inside does you any good at all. Vent!! Vent!!

Speaking of which; I tried to see a MW today but there isn't one available. So I tried to see a GP and there isn't one of those either. So I have peed in a pot and left it at the surgery as a small gift for them. There had better not be any protein in it as if I have pre-eclampsia no bugger is going to check until at least 4pm by which time the Hossie will have shut up shop. I haven't got pre-eclampsia. But the only reason I am managing to keep the fecking doctors off my back is if I check in for these regular appts which is bloody hard to do when nobody is available to see you!

Today I am not impressed with the NHS.

Morning all. Just a quick one to send lots and lots of luck to dachs for this morning.

Hugs to all those having wobbles. I'm totally with you on the fear of everything not working out. Fx for all of us.

wiw I'm so sorry to hear about Suki

daisy house is good thanks though I seem to just be finding it a source of stress. I don't seem to be dealing very well yet with all the changes going on in my life. Doesn't help I'm uncomfy/in pain a lot of the time. Hopefully that's within the normal range though. Only 4 + 5 weeks to go!!

Ps still logging on from iPhone as no home Internet. Anyone know how to see the posts on a thread in reverse chronological order (most recent first) so I don't have to scroll through pages and pages to see the most recent when i'm using the mumsnet app?

Thanks for being so supportive ladies.

collie I completely understand how you feel. I have the same thing as coconuts where I feel all grumpy that I won't ever have what they've got. Like when my friend was telling me about her wonderful water birth where she got nothing more than a graze and was home same day blah blah and thanks to spending waaaay too much time on the childbirth threads I'm now left with a paranoid fear I'm going to be left doubly incontinent with a fanjo that will never be the same again and no baby at the end of it. Realistically I'm sure it's all going to be fine and in any case, it will be what it will be, but still can't stop being a weirdo about it.

owly I'm shocked that your GP surgery won't give you an emergency GP appt - mine has a couple of slots a day reserved for emergencies, and I would imagine calling and saying "they're convinced I've got pre-eclamsia and I have to be monitored regularly" would count as an emergency . On the up-side, as you say, your blood pressure is absolutely fine (except when trying to use the NHS.......) so you are most likely fine but still! Now get yourself back on your birthing ball!!!

Thanks for doing the list Blackkat

I completely understand about bookface velvet - it has caught me a couple of times with my cousin's scan photos (she told us she was PG just as I was MCing) and like you collie I'm dreading the news about the birth. ((hugs)) to you both ((and in fact to everyone this morning)). It's hard when there are all these hormones flying around at the same time as a very reasonable reaction to grief, loss and change.

WiW I'm so sorry to hear the news about Suki.

So my DD was yesterday. I had some wobbles on Friday night and Saturday but Sunday was fine until about 8pm when I had a random bleed out of nowhere + period pains/lower back pain. Cue mild hysteria/snot bubbles on my part and a trip to the maternity ward with MrBigMac. There I was placed on the labour ward while they did a series of checks that showed my cervix was closed, no clots, Happymeal's heartbeat was strong and no reason at all for the bleed. Home at 12.30am. I can think of better ways to slink past a DD. Still feeling a bit shaky today but very very relieved that all is well. Mr BigMac now has experience of a speculum (as an observer...) and the many indignities a fanjo and it's owner can experience.

Coconut what this taught me is that the labour ward is hotter than the sun. I've also bookmarked your bag thread but just thought I would say that it was roasting in there so def take a water face spritzer thing. I will consider a name change but am devoid of inspiration this morning and can't promise it might not be worse than bigmac :)

pink was it you mentioning about antibac wipes? I'm not particularly OCD about cleanliness but the loos yesterday were clean but IMHO not clean enough. I will now be packing them when the time comes. Grim but worth it I think.

Dachs hope all went well today. My goldfish escaped unscathed but I did sacrifice a pot plant from the living room.

Again, big (((hugs))) for all today

Aw bigmac you poor thing :( What a stressful way to pass your DD. So pleased to hear everything was ok in the end though. I have to admit to a when you said that Mr Bigmac had an experience of a speculum - I initially wondered if they threatened to give him the experience too before I read on Are you having a nice chilled out day today? You must still be feeling a bit shaken up :(

Oh also bigmac I got a bounty pack this week and it had a Dettol spray that you could just spray on the toilet seat and wipe with paper - not sure whether the packs are the same all over the country?

How did it go dachs - hope you've got a relaxing afternoon lined up.

Morning All....

I have been offline for the past four days so have heaps to catch-up on. I hope you'll forgive me if I hold off all individual posts until a little later this AM as there is loads to scroll through....

The bits I remember:-

WIW - so sad to hear about Suki. I can't begin to imagine how you're feeling but hope you're bearing up okay. It sounds like the right decision though and I hope you're getting lots of love and TLC.

Dachs - good luck today - thinking of you.

Collie - we're all here for you

Blackkat - thanks for asking after me - missed you!

Irene - lovely to have you join us again

HUGE respect to the ladies carrying twins - I can't imagine having to deal with everything in a double dose!

Everyone else - so sorry to have missed you... will scroll back later today.

Made the big mistake of reading the cut vs tear thread this morning. God knows why I did but it made me cringe, clutch my ladybits in pure terror and want to go begging anyone and everyone for a c-section. Ugh... shudder.... One woman spoke about tearing to her anus.... Owwwwwwwwwww!

Been on an emotional rollercoaster the past few days. DH and I have had some flaming rows too. I think I am now freaking out somewhat about the arrival of my little man and how it will change our lives. DH getting freaked out too because my reaction to anything negative now is to automatically burst into tears (I am NOT normally teary at all). I know it's all normal pg hormones doing their thing but he fears I'm "changing", didn't understand it's the pregnancy talking and I feel he's being insensitive. He's not good with the soft emotional stuff so I've been feeling neglected (he hasn't cooked, doesn't massage my feet, isn't very tender full-stop) and I know he's almost being like that deliberately as a result of how I'm reacting. Cue lots of rows chez Lara. It's all crazy because I have wanted this little one for soooo long and it terrifies me that I'm now actually quite scared.

I am petrified about losing my independence... I know I won't altogether but I am scared about this little one being totally and utterly dependent on me. I mean, what if things go tits up with DH and I further down the line (wouldn't want them to - just an inner fear). I mean, if that happened now I am a free spirit and can pick myself up. Should it happen later with a little one, it's a whole different ball game. I know this is all irrational, we've been together for 7 years and have a strong relationship but I am getting quite scared about a number of things.

I had my 24 week docs appointment on Friday morning, right after DH and I had had a huge row. The first question the doc asked me was "so how are things going?" and I went into total meltdown. I was a blubbering, crying mess. Very embarrassing (more for him than me I think!)....

Anyways - mememe over. Sorry for Monday morning negativity.

And I took so long to type this bloody thing that I missed Pink's, Wombat's, Bigmac's and Owl's posts. What a bloody idiot. Sorry ladies....

Well I'm on the way home now and am a little depressed as they only got 5 eggs. I find out tomorrow how many have fertilised. Given how few eggs there are I may have to go back in tomorrow rather than waiting for them to develop into day 3 embryos. It depends what happens overnight.

dachs I?m sorry there wasn?t more eggs that had developed over the weekend. . Maybe tonight! :o

bigmac OMG what a traumatic way to pass your DD. I?m so sorry you had all that stress and worry, you really do want these dates to pass uneventfully. So happy to hear happymeal is ok though. coconuts I?ve bookmarked your thread too, but adding wipes and spray.

I have registered with Bounty but am very confused about how it works as I?ve not had any freebies. It says on the website that I should have had vouchers off my mw ? which I haven?t, but if I haven?t not to worry as they can see who has/hasn?t cashed them in and so will send them out to me again ? which they haven?t and there is no suggestion of who to contact. I want my freebies!

Thanks everyone for your lovely understanding replies. Its very sad to read that so many of us feel this way, but its also very reassuring to know I?m not alone and not a total selfish emotional moron. coconuts I am sorry you are going through this at the moment too, well done for having the sensibility for hiding her from your fb ? silly moose for her comment about you not being pregnant too! velvet your comment that it your heart still hurts really made me cry! [repeats early hormonal pg lady warning]. I have a feeling that mine will too everytime I see them until I eventually get my own. owl I totally agree too that in is better than out, I?m not a big talker in rl (well not about feelings etc other than with dh) and I bottled a lot of my feelings up straight after the mc, feeling like I should have been ?over it? and it made it so much harder to deal with and move on. Finding MN and having a place to talk was truly a godsend. Pink I have a feeling she had a ?breezy perfect birth? (if there is such a thing)?.or at least is the kind of person to make out it was, and no doubt did it will just sheer determination and no drugs. lara Don?t even get me started on fanjo ripping ? I have seriously always been feared to death of giving birth and I hate the fact that I have now read about all the weird and random complications that can happen ? which are ALL of course clearly going to happen to me!

owl I am too that your GP didn?t give you an emergency apt. Bloody NHS!! Do you have any more acupuncture planned?

lara I?m sorry you and DH are rowing lots. Have to tried to talk to him? I get freaked out about the whole coping/life changing thing too and its completely understandable and in fact I get annoyed that dh is actually so relaxed about the whole damn thing! You?re both going to do fine though and I am sure he will be around into your old age to --drive you up the wall?love and support you! I had a freak out a month or so back about what I wouldn?t be able to do anymore, and as someone nicely said, trips to the nice restaurants and beer gardens stops for a little while, but eventually you?ll get some of that back ? they get old enough to take with you or that?s what baby sitters are for. Maybe they were telling me a white lie to be nice, but I?m holding on to that ? and also how wonderfully different things will be, even though I can?t even imagine how.

Oh Maccer how bloody awful - you poor thing. So glad it was nothing.

Dachs I almost sacrificed a baby frog by accidentally mowing it whilst doing the lawn but thankfully missed it - will be willing on the eggs overnight.

All hospital wards are hotter than the sun - having now spent the night on one I would strongly recommend water spray, flannel for mopping brow and ask if they have ice cubes - they did on the ward I got incarcerated on. Otherwise you will get seriously dehydrated and feel like shite.

Lovely practice nurse found my begging note in with the wee sample and rang me just now. Still haven't got PE. Hoorah!

Lara - sounds like you need a really, really big sleep maybe? I find my hormones are far more mental when I have slept poorly. Everything makes me cry then. Mr Boots was fairly hands off for a lot of the second and third trimester and has, I think, only just realised how much support and contact from him I actually need right now. I wonder if he was a bit freaked out by the hormones and changes too. It must be v.weird for them, and v.difficult to empathise with the hormone thing as they don't really have any equivalent to compare it to. Thankfully he has really stepped up to the challenge in the last few weeks since things have been shite, and I am sure your DH will too in his own time. He may need a few hints though :)

Hi there
Finally adding myself to the list :) . I've also taken off Livin as I seem to remember that she posted to say she'd moved over to the Freak Out room for now (think I've seen her over there too). Livin - if I've got that wrong then please re-add yourself and accept my sincere apologies!

Monday 8th August 2011

Inbetweener - baby#3 43+2 wks EDD 17th July
Owlbooty - baby#1 40+1 weeks EDD 7th August
PrettyVacant - baby#1 37+2 weeks EDD 28th August
OrangeGloss ? baby#1 36+1 weeks EDD 4th September
Wombat33 - baby#1 35+2 weeks EDD 10 September
Daisybell - baby#1 34+6 weeks EDD 13 September
PinkFondantFancy - baby#1 32+6 weeks EDD 25 September
Tiggersreturn babies #2&3 32+6 wks EDD 26 September
Mamapower - Baby#1 32+6 weeks EDD 28 September
A lovely bunch of coconuts baby #2 32+2 weeks EDD 1 october
Emoo - baby#2 31+3 weeks EDD 7 October
Tunnocksteacake - baby#2 29+0 weeks EDD 24th October
Hotnspicyonions - baby#2 29+0 weeks EDD 24th October
Velvetcu - baby#1 28+6 wks EDD 25th October
MummyAbroad baby #2 27+3 wks EDD 4th November
CEP baby #2 27+2 wks EDD 5th Nov
Katherine2008 baby#2 26+4 EDD 10 November
Collieandpup baby #1 25+1 wks EDD 20th Nov
Wombatinwaiting - baby # 1 24+4 wks EDD 24th November
LaraMi baby #1 24+3 weeks EDD 25th November
Izzy - baby #3 24+2 wks EDD 26th November
Bigmacandhappymeal - baby#1 23+6 weeks EDD 29th November
Blackkat - baby #1 23+0 wks EDD 5th December
Harassedandherbug - baby #4 20+4 wks EDD 22 December
Dooscooby - baby #1 20+4 wks EDD 22 December
Youremindmeofthebabe Baby#2 18+5 EDD 5th Jan

Waiting to join the list (lurkers):
Please add yourselves in if you wish!

MIA
Tigerbear - baby#1 EDD 14th May
Wobblewatcher - baby#2 EDD 27th June
emmywoo
Purplehibiscus
Lucysnowe

The babies are arriving! Huge congratulations to:

Totally with daughter Faith Juliet, 9lb5oz born Tuesday 16th February 2010
Amyboo with son Matthew James, 4.714kg (10lb3oz) born Tuesday 30th March 2010
Hoops with son Benjamin Scott, 7lb4oz born Friday 2nd April 2010
Memorylapse with daughter Olivia, born Friday 16th April 2010
Jacanne with daughter Lotta Eliza, 8lbs 5oz born 20th April 2010
Becky78 with son Thomas Christopher born 22nd May, 9lb 1oz
Meita with son Ianto born 23 August, 7lbs 4
Boodleboot with daughter Alice Elizabeth born 10 Sep - 8lbs 2oz
LeeWT with son Andrew Anthony born 28th Sept 7lbs 14oz
TFLS with son Charlie born on 30th September, 6lbs 8oz
SamB with daughter Ruby Mae born 19th October, 7lbs 10oz
Effilump with son Arlen born 16th October, 8lbs
Sarahlou8 with daughter Emily Isabella born 21st October, 7lb8oz
Unbuffy with son James Anthony born 3rd December, 6lb8oz
HappyGirl with daughter Ciara born 10th December, 8lb2oz
Malteser1981 with son Eli born 18 December, 8lb 6oz
Zayja with daughter Winona born 19 December, 7lbs 11oz
Sparklyrainbow with son Alex born 28th December, 9lb 7oz
GoodLuckBear with son James born 25th December, 8lb
BunnyBaby with son Daniel George born 5th January 2011, 10lb 1oz
AlbaDeTamble - with son born 10th Jan 2011, 8lbs 10oz
Gilda - with son Ren born 10th Jan 2011, 8lb 4oz
WestYorkshireGirl - with daughter Hester Rose born 14th Jan 2011, 6lb 4oz
Redheadgal - with daughter Cecily Anne born 13th Jan 2011, 8lbs 13oz
Toomuchteaching - with daughter Jemima born 17th Jan 2011, 8lb1/4oz
Dorcas111 - with daughter born 4th February 2011 8lbs 5oz
Clareanna - with son Tobias born 10th February 7lbs 10oz
Muser - with daughter born 15th February 6lbs 12oz
Ba8y1 ? with son born Tuesday 15th February, 8lbs 11oz
Lotta123 - with baby born Monday 21st February
Magic8ballhastheanswers - Identical twin girls, born 27th February 6lb8 & 5lb15
Northerngoldilocks - with son born Wednesday 16th March, 9lb 6oz
Stuffedmk - with son Thomas, born Wednesday 23rd March
Hopefully - with son, born 29th March 7lb 12oz
Lia - with daughter, born 1st April 8lb 11oz
PenguinsMummy - with daughter Clodagh
VivClicquot - with daughter, Phoebe, born Thursday 28 April, 7lb 5oz
Ivysedai - with son, born Tuesday May 2nd 3.83KG
Loopymumsy - with daughter, born Thursday 12th May, 7lb 15oz
Caribou - with son, Caleb, born Saturday 28 May, 9lb 1oz
LittleMiss - with son- born Wednesday 1st June 7lb 1oz
appleblossoms - with son Malachi, born Wednesday 15th June, 9lb 4oz
crochetcircle - with daughter born Sunday 26th June, 8lb 4oz.
urbanlolly - with daughter born Tuesday 19th July, 8lb 3oz.
Nickster - with son Corey born Tuesday 2nd August

In our thoughts and prayers:
Louise with daughter Georgie born asleep on 10th October
Dachs with her babies Alexander and Felicia who left the world asleep on 21st May

We share the pain and and mourn the loss with:
Jollster, Cheepz, Freezing, BarrenBrook, MsJL, LadyBee, Banana87, BatteryHen, HairyTriangle and Waterplate

wiw I completely forgot to say sorry about Suki. It's so sad when we lose our animals, hope you're doing ok.

blackkat Glad I can help, at least that thread will stay in the archives and help others prepare :)

owl Bit crap you can't get an appointment, Glad the wee is all clear though :)

wombat Can't help with iphone thing, I am behind in the world of technology and do not have a clever phone :(

pink I, too, have been reading childbirth and scaring myself senseless at being left with no working bumhole. Sometimes I need to step away!

mac So sorry to hear of the dd and the bleed and sorry I was so jovial, when you're feeling a bit shit. Don't change your name... bigmacs are nice :)

My DH has had many experiences of speculums. The first time he was in with me was when we'd only been together about 6 months. I asked if he wanted to leave the room but he was trying to be all manly and supportive. Cue gynae with huge hands, loads of KY and a speculum and my DH with his head in the sink and sweat beading on his brow! He has a great respect for women with gynae problems now and was bloody fantastic everytime I had to have investigations. So glad he never left the room that day :)

lara sorry things are a bit up and down with you too. I think your wibbles are completely normal. It is damn scary having a baby no matter how much you want it or how many times you've done it. I think the main thing is trying to make sure you and DH both get an opportunity to talk to each other about your concerns. My DH is a crap talker too and doesn't do emotion (blood from a stone) so sometimes I have to push to talk but once we do things really improve. He is just as scared as you. and you're allowed to be scared.

dachs Hope those eggs do well overnight :)

Waves to everyone else :)

OK, didn't want to make a mammoth post so done the list bit and now the chat!

wiw sorry to hear about Suki.

owl - sorry you didn't get to see anyone earlier - must be so frustrating

lara - my DH has occasionally read my rough guide to pg book and each chapter has a jokey bit about how emotional/weird the woman has been that week. I think he found those parts helpful in that he kept saying how 'text book' I was and I think it helped him see that I wasn't changing for good but that it was because of the pg/hormones etc. Might not be helpful but just a thought.

collie I feel exactly the same as you, particularly today after hearing about a family friend being 12 wks. I feel so silly - why the hell does it bother me but my first thought is always 'there's another baby I'll have to see pics of, hear about if/when things don't work out for us'. I've just passed my 2nd DD and I'm approaching the anniversary of my 1st m/c. In some ways I'm positive that I'm at this stage after only 15 months when I know so well that people have years of turmoil/heartbreak to endure. Another part of me is making me so sad that I can remember exactly what was happening one year ago today and that I was actually pg. My 3 friends who went on to get pg shortly after now have their lovely babies and I'm left hoping like mad that things will be ok.

dachs - sorry to hear that the number of eggs weren't what you were hoping for, we'll be rooting for the fab 5 tonight.

bigmac what a traumatic way to spend your DD. I can't imagine your relief in finding everything was ok but what a scare you didnt need, especially then. On a less important note, I'm bummed to hear that the labour ward is hot. Indoor heat seems to be my big anxiety trigger and getting fresh air really makes me calm down - think I'll have to sod a tens machine and bring my own a/c unit to maintain any sense of calm!

Hi ladies, sorry for being awol a lot. Work is murder and very stressful and horrid, and home is just busy!! I'm having a lot of working mum guilt now it's the summer hols, dd is fine, it's just me . Especially as we're not going away, and that's my fault because I just can't.

collie I know how you feel too lovely. My friends ds is now 10 days old and my due date is Thursday.... But good to hear from Velvet that it gets a bit easier. ((()))'s for you, it's shit and it hurts x Oh and I'm also confused by Bounty! It used to be sooo easy, the mw just gave you stuff.

Velvet sodding bookface!! I've hidden so many "friends". I can't look at pics from Christmas as I was just soooo happy! Then our cat was killed on NYE and I found out about mmc on 14th Jan.

dachs thinking of you and hope the 5 they got do their thing!

I didn't sacrifice any animals but the cat only just escaped after throwing up on my clean floor, closely followed by dh for over-feeding her.......

wiw I'm so sorry about Suki. Left you message on other thread.

pink I've got a few bits and have now freaked out about it. I want to knit (I love knitting) but am struggling to bring myself to do it.....

lara I think it all sounds perfectly normal! Although obviously it's no fun for you or dh. Stop reading scary threads unless you want to know about these things. Tearing that badly is really, really uncommon. Even if you do tear, you won't even notice it I promise! You'll be too busy pushing and trying not to punch dh/mw for saying "daft" things like "push harder".....

I think we've decided on a buggy! Prob a second hand Cameleon, or maybe a new Babystyle Oyster. The pushchair ladies say 2nd hand Cam so far though.....

Oh dh has his first boxing match at the end of the month and it's starting to get a bit real now. I not bothered about him hitting anyone, but I'm worried I'll cry if/when they hit him!! He's even had some sparring recorded to prepare me...... Yikes!

thanks for the nice words, I'm feeling much more like my old self as the day is going on - coconut joviality is very much welcome, fear not :) I can think of better ways to round off a DD but at least all is OK.

Welcome to the list proper scoob. I work in a health care environment and there was some research done that we have used here on hand held fans making a big difference to people in hospital and their anxiety and the feelings of breathlessness that can sometimes occur. Don't ask me why, but in particular it was the M&S ones that made a positive difference. Might be worth stocking up? Also, sorry if I worried you - your's may be different...

We have been thinking that the Oyster might be the option for us harassed. It's quite a reasonable price for what you get but having said that, I've only looked online and in mothercare so want to trial some other out. Cash is a bit of an issue for us so want to try and be sub £400 if we can.

owl delighted to hear that PE is not on the cards for you - NHS in being actually good shocker!

some good advice from the other ladies here lara. I have moments of crippling self-doubt about the whole thing on a regular basis mainly tied up around my best friends (all childless and highflying) being in London and that my job has defined how I value myself for a long time now. I got MrBM a book called Pregnancy for Men off amazon. It's a bit blokey blokey but it did explain some of the hormone stuff in a way that has made my usually sceptical OH very understanding of me and my complete unreasonableness and sobbing occasional ups and downs.

Like wombat I am fearing change too but I can't help thinking that we are all going to kick arse at this baby business...

Monday 8th August 2011

Just a tidy up as we've not heard from Inbetweener for ages and her EDD is well passed I've moved her to MIA... there's a significance to reaching the top of that list so I'm sure she'll understand if she returns

Owlbooty - baby#1 40+1 weeks EDD 7th August
PrettyVacant - baby#1 37+2 weeks EDD 28th August
OrangeGloss ? baby#1 36+1 weeks EDD 4th September
Wombat33 - baby#1 35+2 weeks EDD 10 September
Daisybell - baby#1 34+6 weeks EDD 13 September
PinkFondantFancy - baby#1 32+6 weeks EDD 25 September
Tiggersreturn babies #2&3 32+6 wks EDD 26 September
Mamapower - Baby#1 32+6 weeks EDD 28 September
A lovely bunch of coconuts baby #2 32+2 weeks EDD 1 october
Emoo - baby#2 31+3 weeks EDD 7 October
Tunnocksteacake - baby#2 29+0 weeks EDD 24th October
Hotnspicyonions - baby#2 29+0 weeks EDD 24th October
Velvetcu - baby#1 28+6 wks EDD 25th October
MummyAbroad baby #2 27+3 wks EDD 4th November
CEP baby #2 27+2 wks EDD 5th Nov
Katherine2008 baby#2 26+4 EDD 10 November
Collieandpup baby #1 25+1 wks EDD 20th Nov
Wombatinwaiting - baby # 1 24+4 wks EDD 24th November
LaraMi baby #1 24+3 weeks EDD 25th November
Izzy - baby #3 24+2 wks EDD 26th November
Bigmacandhappymeal - baby#1 23+6 weeks EDD 29th November
Blackkat - baby #1 23+0 wks EDD 5th December
Harassedandherbug - baby #4 20+4 wks EDD 22 December
Dooscooby - baby #1 20+4 wks EDD 22 December
Youremindmeofthebabe Baby#2 18+5 EDD 5th Jan

Waiting to join the list (lurkers):
Please add yourselves in if you wish!

MIA
Tigerbear - baby#1 EDD 14th May
Wobblewatcher - baby#2 EDD 27th June
Inbetweener - baby#3 43+2 wks EDD 17th July
emmywoo
Purplehibiscus
Lucysnowe

The babies are arriving! Huge congratulations to:

Totally with daughter Faith Juliet, 9lb5oz born Tuesday 16th February 2010
Amyboo with son Matthew James, 4.714kg (10lb3oz) born Tuesday 30th March 2010
Hoops with son Benjamin Scott, 7lb4oz born Friday 2nd April 2010
Memorylapse with daughter Olivia, born Friday 16th April 2010
Jacanne with daughter Lotta Eliza, 8lbs 5oz born 20th April 2010
Becky78 with son Thomas Christopher born 22nd May, 9lb 1oz
Meita with son Ianto born 23 August, 7lbs 4
Boodleboot with daughter Alice Elizabeth born 10 Sep - 8lbs 2oz
LeeWT with son Andrew Anthony born 28th Sept 7lbs 14oz
TFLS with son Charlie born on 30th September, 6lbs 8oz
SamB with daughter Ruby Mae born 19th October, 7lbs 10oz
Effilump with son Arlen born 16th October, 8lbs
Sarahlou8 with daughter Emily Isabella born 21st October, 7lb8oz
Unbuffy with son James Anthony born 3rd December, 6lb8oz
HappyGirl with daughter Ciara born 10th December, 8lb2oz
Malteser1981 with son Eli born 18 December, 8lb 6oz
Zayja with daughter Winona born 19 December, 7lbs 11oz
Sparklyrainbow with son Alex born 28th December, 9lb 7oz
GoodLuckBear with son James born 25th December, 8lb
BunnyBaby with son Daniel George born 5th January 2011, 10lb 1oz
AlbaDeTamble - with son born 10th Jan 2011, 8lbs 10oz
Gilda - with son Ren born 10th Jan 2011, 8lb 4oz
WestYorkshireGirl - with daughter Hester Rose born 14th Jan 2011, 6lb 4oz
Redheadgal - with daughter Cecily Anne born 13th Jan 2011, 8lbs 13oz
Toomuchteaching - with daughter Jemima born 17th Jan 2011, 8lb1/4oz
Dorcas111 - with daughter born 4th February 2011 8lbs 5oz
Clareanna - with son Tobias born 10th February 7lbs 10oz
Muser - with daughter born 15th February 6lbs 12oz
Ba8y1 ? with son born Tuesday 15th February, 8lbs 11oz
Lotta123 - with baby born Monday 21st February
Magic8ballhastheanswers - Identical twin girls, born 27th February 6lb8 & 5lb15
Northerngoldilocks - with son born Wednesday 16th March, 9lb 6oz
Stuffedmk - with son Thomas, born Wednesday 23rd March
Hopefully - with son, born 29th March 7lb 12oz
Lia - with daughter, born 1st April 8lb 11oz
PenguinsMummy - with daughter Clodagh
VivClicquot - with daughter, Phoebe, born Thursday 28 April, 7lb 5oz
Ivysedai - with son, born Tuesday May 2nd 3.83KG
Loopymumsy - with daughter, born Thursday 12th May, 7lb 15oz
Caribou - with son, Caleb, born Saturday 28 May, 9lb 1oz
LittleMiss - with son- born Wednesday 1st June 7lb 1oz
appleblossoms - with son Malachi, born Wednesday 15th June, 9lb 4oz
crochetcircle - with daughter born Sunday 26th June, 8lb 4oz.
urbanlolly - with daughter born Tuesday 19th July, 8lb 3oz.
Nickster - with son Corey born Tuesday 2nd August

In our thoughts and prayers:
Louise with daughter Georgie born asleep on 10th October
Dachs with her babies Alexander and Felicia who left the world asleep on 21st May

We share the pain and and mourn the loss with:
Jollster, Cheepz, Freezing, BarrenBrook, MsJL, LadyBee, Banana87, BatteryHen, HairyTriangle and Waterplate

evening ladies

wiw so sorry about suki, i hope you're ok

collie sorry you were so upset, i hope you're feeling a bit better today.

dach i'm sorry you were disappointed by the number, i hope they are the fantastic five for you.

owl i hope things are moving soon.

lara sorry you and dh are arguing more, it's so difficult with hormones and then (if your dh is like mine) it's "it's only cause you're pregnant you'll be normal again after the baby's born" of course it's nothing to do with you being an arse dh dear. i hope things are sorted soon.

harrassed hope dh's boxing match goes well.

i'm ok just very tired last week and this week have had to do mondays to build up my flexi, and i am sooo tired, then my niece who stayed with us on sat night threw up everywhere during the night so was up for a couple of hours cleaning it up then couldn't get back to sleep, although thankfully dh did all the running about. dh has been ill for most of last week, now it sounds like ds has caught the cold, he hasn't stopped coughing since going to bed and he keeps waking himself up. i have a feeling it's going to be a very bad night. so think i'll be going to bed soon.

sorry if i've missed anyone, i hope you are all ok.

Morning all - quick catch up before work

Woo hoo owl - look at you, top of the list!! Hoping for some news soon x

dachs fx for at least one good embryo, that's all it takes, lovely x

To all those worried about tearing - I tore both times, lots of stitches BUT was recovered in a few weeks and both bumhole and fanjo still working perfectly 8 years on, honestly . I know the horror stories are v v scary but I do think luckily they're quite rare!

Big (((hugs))) to those feeling down - there's a mum at school who had her baby over Christmas when my lost one was due and it always makes me feel a bit to see him. I don't think you ever forget.

wiw so sorry about Suki

Ps we're still debating between the Oyster and iCandy Cherry but I think we've decided on the Cherry.

Lurking for news from dachs this morning...

only 3 of the eggs were mature. All of them fertilised, but the odds aren't great given that historically i've only had two viable embryos from 9 fertilised eggs. There is still a small chance though. if there are any left they'll be going back on in Thursday at 10.30

Morning Ladies...

Dachs - please try to remain hopeful... It only takes one... You've been so strong (and continue to be). Mother Nature will make sure you have a happy ending.

Collie - how are you feeling today, hun?

Harassed - thinking of you in regards DH's match... I admire you for being so supportive. Not sure if I'd be the same.

BigMac - I will order that book and put it in the bathroom so I know DH will read it. It's so good to know too that you empathise with how I feel.

Owl - how are things with Owlet? Love seeing you at the top of the list.

Izzy - still not convinced re. tearing but good to know you've recovered and are, erm, intact!

Thanks soooo much to ALL of you for your kind, reassuring and very supportive words. I can't express how much you all mean to me and what an integral part of this pg you all are. Wish DH had the same sort of support network. Thank you. I can report that we've been talking more and had a good last 24 hours. A highlight of the evening was DH feeling his first kick when Little One booted me in the stomach. DH was over the moon and couldn't believe how my whole stomach rippled. Moments like that make it all worthwhile.

How are all the London ladies today post-last nght's "activity"? I barely slept - the sirens were constant until 4am. We live in Streatham Hill (right next to Brixton). It's all quite terrifying. Makes us want to up and leave to the 'burbs sooner rather than later, especially as we'l be bringing a little boy into the world. Incidentally, my NCT classes start tonight - in the heart of Brixton.

Question - after our babies are born, is there another thread for our group that we can join? Would hate to lose you all after Little One arrives (glad I have a good few months left still)