Pregnancy post mc: Totally's grads continued part 7

[StickThemWithThePointyEnd]

New fred!

did the super moon bring any babies last night?

what particular incarnation of patrick dempsey? lemon cake sounds good. I've got some raisin and cinnamon danishes for later :) Had a real craving for one last night. DH refused to go out and get me one. I said he'd promised to get me stuff if I had pg cravings and he said it wasn't a pg craving (not strange enough because I didn't want pickles or anything with it) I just wanted cake so he didn't have to go out! Grrr...............

Wind. Hmmm... Could be then. Then again, could just be wind! :)

I went out at the crack of dawn to get some Crunchy Nut cornflakes yum [bugrin]

Dachs your dh needs to recognise ravings don't have to be weird. I ate my first MacDonalds in about 3 years not long ago :)

The first movement I felt was a cross between tiny bubbles right under my skin and an insect crawling flitting across. Then one time I felt that and a gentle nudge on my bladder area so knew that was what it had been

When did you ladies start looking for movement patterns? My book reckons about 28 weeks

dachs I was watching enchanted. :o

about the wind - consider the fact that the babies are now where your gut used to be. :)

dachs Mmmmmm Danishes! Next time request them and gherkins from DH, just to make sure he recognises it as a craving where are we on the postcode game btw?? ivy's got a point-have a look at that website mummya posted and see if where it's cramping matches up with where the pups are as that might be it! Do you know what website I mean? (am on phone so hard to puta link) I remember nix saying it was initally like she needed a fart. Also, at your 12 week scan did they tell you where your placentas are? I've heard if they're at the front they can muffle things initially.

mamap you are so cool and zen, you are fab. If I come and visit you in real life do you reckon I can catch some of your zen off you?? Xx

orange what is it with mcdonalds, I've been fancying that too! Mmm crunchy nut with cold milk sounds lush!

Is it wrong to actually like prune juice??? I am having to ration myself for risk of tipping the balance in the toilet dept too far the other way! [bublush]

pink on the postcode game Reading was still the closest guess :)

I will invent a desire for gherkins. :) Sounds like a good plan

Pink yes they can muffle things if they are at the front - and mine is doing exactly that. So some days I get lots of kicking if he's the right way round and the last three days I've felt barely anything. I AM TRYING NOT TO MENTAL ABOUT IT - someone please send me a kipper. It's supposed to become more reliable around 28 weeks I think. And yes it is Wrong to like prune juice. Although I had some tinned prunes on vanilla ice cream yesterday and it was splendid so I am in no position to talk

Dachs at 16 weeks I felt the first teeny tiny flutter and frankly, it could have been a chuff it was that tiny. Give it another couple of weeks and I bet you'll be feeling things that are definitely not chuffs!

Also, Dachs if you're anywhere near Reading you're quite near me as I am in Oxford, I shall wave at you I think however you are probably in Henley. :)

Glad you're getting on okay, it must be so lovely to not be waiting for the baby to arrive any more! I'm starting to feel like I've been up the duff forever.

Oouf. Too much gardening today. Am possibly a bit toasted despite sunhat and factor 25. Hope everyone is enjoying the BH weekend :)

owl v close guess, but not quite close enough as I am in Berkshire and Henley in in Oxfordshire (just).

I am in fact in Twyford (well, just outside), which is where you have to change trains to get to Henley :)

Daisy - yes it helped me to bond with DS knowing he was a boy, 20 week scan plus is the time i have started to relax and feeling movements each day is reassuring and helps with bonding. Dont worry am sure its just self preservationx

Pink - FART rippling you are right... something insect like... yep orange...! Reminds me of being cheese gratered inside,....!!

Having a lovely time. Baby likes the beach :) so does DS who is flat out as we type. DH has taken some whale like pictures of me on the beach so will bookface the bump (which has grown yet further) when reception allows!! I feel SOOOOOO fat... and yes pregnant forever already. I was pg all last summer too so has been neverending. Hope everyone is great, Ivy hope that miniIvy is behaving and you are making more progress.....

Waves to everyone x

Pink 20 week scan nerves to be expected.... and am certain everything will be fine for you honey xxx Can be a bit unnerving as they spend lots of time looking at organs, counting fingers and toes etc...counting the heart chambers and flows through the umbilical chord etc but hopefully you will find all that reassuring. Are you starting to feel movement now? Ask about placenta positioning too.. anterior is on the front wall and yes can muffle..!

Night all x

Nix I'm sure you look wonderfully radiant, and not fat in the slightest [buenvy] of you at the beach. I hope MrNix is settling into his job ok?

I was miles out with Swindon then!

Prune juice is my friend at the moment when all else has failed

Am I being mental in wanting a new(to us) car that'll take up 2/3 of our savings? Ours is old, doesn't have Isofix without converting, and will cost more than it's worth at MOT? The one we've seen is bigger/family type. And I won't jinx things either will I? Sorry, only kinda pg-related but I'm worried I have no rational thought capacity left [bublush] [bugrin] think it's helped just writing it down!

Can I join? I've been on ttc after miscarriage forums but I got my BFP on Tuesday. Due 20th December if all goes well. I went into very premature labour at almost 22 weeks last year and then miscarried my second at 11 weeks. Am on aspirin and progesterone pesseries now. Hoping and praying that this time I get my baby.

Just a note to pink about 20 week scan mentalling - if it makes you feel any better, I sobbed on my way to the hospital for my 20 week scan, held it together during it, then sobbed again afterwards when all was fine. I was an utter mess.

Now, I know my situation is slightly different exactly because we lost our last baby after a chromosomal abnormality was found at a routine scan, but my point is that a) it's absolutely fine and totally normal to mental, but b) do bear in mind the mentalling never actually goes away! As it turns out, this 20 wk scan was seemingly perfect but 18 weeks down the line and I still worry there will be a problem with the baby or something will go wrong.

I don't think any of us will stop mentalling until our babies are here, and then I assume a whole new world of mentalling begins! So my advice is to embrace it and don't beat yourself up over it :)

orange you got me wanting crunchy nut cornflakes!! hee hee!

nix I just FB stalked you looking for some lovely yummy pic's and nothing! C'mon lady get them up and show off I bet you are glowing :)

pink I hope you do come visit. I can reveal that someone on here has relies that know my wine bar/restaurant and are planning a little trip in May! I'm v excited about that! I certainly think a gathering when the babies arrive is essential

welcome aMIW Sorry to hear that you had such a tough time last year, you're in good company here though, very supportive

I'm not buying the prune juice thing girls owl pink your own your own with that one

Enjoy the sun lovelies

x-posts - well said viv and how very true

ps As more evidence of the 'mentalling never going away' - I ended up spending an hour in triage yesterday as I hadn't felt the baby move since Friday evening. All well, thankfully, but a bit of a scare and one I blame on my anterior placenta getting in the way....

Orange - yes whale like, not yet glowing, although the blooming comments have started!! Do you def need isofix? My infant carrier is not isofix but all my other four car seats are... - having said that its easier to just slot in an infant carrier and off you go rather than belting it in. All this pram talk has got me thinking about selling my M & P travel system. I dreamt last night it was far too big. DH is now also talking about a Sling, whereas i am not keen (Dsis uses them and nephew never wants putting down!) Oh what to do...!! And NO changing your car wont bring on the jinx pixies!! DH job going really well thanks Orange - we are down here for 10 days and he is off over the bank hols.... woken up this morning to a note that he has taken DS to the park to play football so they are having a blast

Dachs you are so right to buy the pram you want... i ended up with 3 different ones, all of which have been used well but.... research and functionality as well as storage are all good things to look at ... I DIDNT!! LOL

Welcome Muminwaiting - really hope this one is sticky for you xxx

Welcome amuminwaiting sorry for your loss and congrats with your BFP. This us a lovely thread to share worries/metalling

Viv very well said. I hope you're getting lots of lovely movement to make up for the recent lack of

Mamap I'd love a little trip to coo over the new arrivals :)

Thanks Nix :) what travel system would you buy if you sold yours? I have no sling experience, but envisage using when v.small only. Your dream's interesting it must be on your mind subconsciously. How lovely they're both out together, and leaving you with a lie-in too [bugrin]

We bought the car in the end, they're putting in the Isofix bar for free and a friend has a base he's selling so not much to pay. Good practical size stay away jinx pixies!!

I hope everyone else is having a lovely day? We're just driving to Weston-Super-Mare for a paddle and home made picnic [bugrin]

Hi Everybody!

I wondered if I could join this thread for some company and advice from people in the same position as me, because I'm annoying myself with my negative thinking and need to do something about it!

I had a mmc at 10 weeks late last year - coped well psychologically, terribly physically (passed out on toilet, 999 ambulance, product stuck in cervix, 2 nights in hospital, erpc). Now I'm 13 weeks pregnant, and the scans, combined downs tests etc have all been fine, and I'm past the risky first trimester, and I really want to be positive and excited about this pregnancy but I'm struggling.

I have had a lot of bleeding - the sonographer identified the source as a haemmorage in my uterus which has been healing and has now almost gone. But it still really freaks me out because after last time, in my mind bleeding=mc. I've been spending an awful lot of time in bed where I feel safe, and the trouble is I then go on mumsnet and inevitably read stories of horrible things that have happened to people during pregnancy, which makes it seem really common and therefore almost inevitable that something bad could happen to me too.

I'll have a few good days and then something will happen like I'll have a bit of diarrhoea or spotting and because I'm feeling so vulnerable it will send me back to square one, curled up in bed. It's not fair on DP or DS although they are both being fantastic.

I'm usually a really optimistic, energetic, positive person. I hate feeling like this. Does anybody have any ideas for things I can do to get my head back into a better place?

Hi again everyone. My first was a boy Loopymumsy, we named him Archie. My second was too little to tell but we called the bubs Elliot. I'm not being too crazy yet but know that it's only a matter of time. I can't think of this as long term yet and I think that's my brain just trying to protect me. It just seems like I'm pinning an awful lot of hope on an aspirin and pesseries. I know someone who lost five though and went full time after that when put on aspirin so I guess I shouldn't underestimate it.

Every time I go to the loo though (about a hundred times a day at the moment) I look very tentatively when I wipe praying that there won't be any blood. I had three massive bleeds with Archie before going into labour and just one very small one with Elliot. I know women who have had really big bleeds though and still go full term but I really don't want to see any blood this time!

I've been pregnant mainly through cold miserable months before so I hope that this time the sunshine will keep make a difference. I certainly feel happier in the sun.

Sounds like most of you guys are nearing the end of your wait. December feels a VERY long way away. Hope we both get there!

It doesn't feel like grieving tbh, it's never felt like I lost a baby, more like it didn't manage to develop from an embryo to a foetus. It stopped growing at 7 weeks, so didn't look recognisable as human.

I think it's more of a trust issue - I don't trust my body to do things properly. I was in hospital for longer with a mc than most people are with a birth! I don't trust it not to bleed or do other things it's not supposed to. And I'm not sure if I trust my foetus to be ok - I want to start to bond with it, but my head isn't letting me.

I feel so ridiculous - most people on here have had much more traumatic experiences than me, and they are coping.

Hello everyone,

Have had a name change - was previously [samb123] and for those that don't know me I had my baby back in October. I've been lurking a little just to see those I remember well having their babies. To be honest, I don't think [Ivy] is having baby at all. She's just been eating too much for ages. I really hope you have your baby soon. In a few weeks time you'll have entirely forgotten how frustrating it all was. I was talking to someone yesterday who walked around four centimetres dilated for two weeks. How is that possible?

I also wanted to wave excitedly to Viv and Loopy. It's so fab to see you both all the way up there at the top of the list. I will look out for your news soon too.

Hello and very good luck to everyone else. Reading over the thread makes it all cone back to me . I found it very much more real after the 20 week scan and it was only then I really 'settled' into the pregnancy. Even though this was my third baby I didn't feel much movement 'til 22 weeks. I had an anterior placenta which is on the front wall of the uterus so movements aren't noticeable until later. I found it felt like a tickle. I wanted to rub the outside of the place it was. Later it was bubbly like a big fart might cone soon and after a while it was just like someone kicking you with their foot!

'Ello and welcome Muminwaiting and Cattleprod - you're in the right place. Pretty much everyone on this thread totally gets the 'not trusting your body to do the right thing' feeling and also the constant knicker checking. I'm still knicker checking and I'm 25 weeks tomorrow. The trust thing comes and goes depending on mood and levels of tiredness. :)

Just v.sorry that you've both had horrible experiences to date and will cross my fingers that this time everything goes well for both of you. Cattleprod regarding the random bleeding - I don't know if Tunnocksteacake is around at the mo but she's also had far more than her fair share of that. Thinking positively is difficult to do but I promise it gets easier overall as you progress and the moments of panic/negativity become further and further apart.

Viv Tut! Naughty baby making you fret. No pocket money for MiniViv when he/she emerges. :)

Just to update on the lack of Owlet movement - around lunchtime, after almost 4 days of pretty much bugger all movement, the little darling did some sort of cartwheel and now his feet are back where I can feel them kicking again - cue a massive sigh of relief and lots of swearing. Mr Boots said 'I told you so.' So next time I start wibbling someone please have the haddock on standby as it clearly did the trick

Thanks for the welcome! It didn't feel right joining an ordinary antenatal club thread until I feel a bit more positive about the whole thing - didn't want to scare the first timers!!!

I'm looking forward to getting to know you all.....