Pregnancy post mc: Totally's grads continued part 7

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New fred!

did the super moon bring any babies last night?

Ivy its no wonder you're getting hacked off, I think you are quite entitled to a right good whinge. I'm lucky to have MIL in Ireland because as lovely as she is, she is exhausting and if I was in your state she would be the last person I would want around.

I had my own moaning sessions last week, for about 4 nights on the trot after work I felt like I had reached the end of my tether. I'm up peeing at least 4 times a night, had the hip pain, heartburn and trapped wind and was just unfeasibly tired. I think I've embraced everything this pregnancy has thrown at me so far after my miscarriages and it truly was the first time I felt like I'd had enough. Feeling better now mind you - and so happy to be on maternity leave!

Nicks I have those twinges down the left side of my groin too, not entirely sure what it is. The SPD is more central as Ivy says, right in the middle of your pubic bone. Don't you be doing too much with DH away - it would be awful if you ended up with an injury.

Owl - hurrah for Owlet thriving!

I was interested reading the exchange between Viv and Lia, I had another (crappy) MW appt last week and the wee man is also not engaged at the moment. We don't get any scans after 20 weeks up here either so no idea what size he is either. My MW was on leave and it was another random I saw and she made me feel stupid each time I asked a question. Mocked me for thinking about a refresher class for relaxtion - bearing in mind I had DD 4 years ago and had an elective section, so no experience of birth. She asked if I thought the MWs wouldn't instruct me and help out when it was actually happening. Then butchered my arms trying to get blood, I have bruises about 5cm across on each arm.

She booked me in for a sweep on my due date, is that normal? Also said that I can't be induced because I have had a section, which I hadn't realised. I was down for seeing my consultant that day but she told me there was no point getting him since I don't want a section - which I have told them all along! I ended up asking why they are constantly going on about sections, I said that if they think I should be having one I will have one but she then said that vaginal births are safer. So no idea what they are on about! Like you Viv, as long as he gets here safely I really don't give a shite if its a section or VBAC. Quite jealous of you having a MW on hand in the form of your sis!

Crossed with Pink - hi pal, you doing better now? I've caught your breathlessness, which I hadn't expected to get as much with a non-breech baby.

I'll have a bash at the list while I'm at it. I know I've asked this before, but is Osch still here? Don't think I've ever seen a post from her.

Monday's List

Osch - Baby#3 41+1 wks EDD 10th April
Ivysedai - baby#2 39+4wks EDD 21st April
VivClicquot - baby#1 38 wks EDD 2nd May
Loopymumsy - baby#4 37+4 wks EDD 5th May
Tigerbear - baby#1 36+2 wks EDD 14th May
Caribou - baby #2 (DD, 3yrs) 35+5 wks EDD 18th May
appleblossoms - baby#2 32+2 wks EDD 11th June
crochetcircle - baby#1 32+2 wks EDD 11th June
LittleMiss - baby#1 30+3 wks EDD 24th June
Wobblewatcher - baby#2 30 wks EDD 27th June
urbanlolly - baby#2 27+6 wks EDD 12th July
Inbetweener - baby#3 27+1 wks EDD 17th July
Nickster - baby#2 24+1 weeks EDD 7th August
Owlbooty - baby#1 24+1 weeks EDD 7th August
PrettyVacant - baby#1 21+2 weeks EDD 28th August
OrangeGloss ? baby#1 20+1 weeks EDD 4th September
Wombat33 - baby#1 19+2 weeks EDD 10 September
PinkFondantFancy - baby#1 17 weeks EDD 25 September
DoubleDiffedDachs - babies#1 and #2 15+5 EDD 5 October
Emoo - baby#2 15+3 weeks EDD 7 October
Tunnocksteacake - baby#2 13 weeks EDD 24th October

Waiting to join the list:
emmywoo
Purplehibiscus
Lucysnowe
mamapower

The babies are arriving! Huge congratulations to:

Totally with daughter Faith Juliet, 9lb5oz born Tuesday 16th February 2010
Amyboo with son Matthew James, 4.714kg (10lb3oz) born Tuesday 30th March 2010
Hoops with son Benjamin Scott, 7lb4oz born Friday 2nd April 2010
Memorylapse with daughter Olivia, born Friday 16th April 2010
Jacanne with daughter Lotta Eliza, 8lbs 5oz born 20th April 2010
Becky78 with son Thomas Christopher born 22nd May, 9lb 1oz
Meita with son Ianto born 23 August, 7lbs 4
Boodleboot with daughter Alice Elizabeth born 10 Sep - 8lbs 2oz
LeeWT with son Andrew Anthony born 28th Sept 7lbs 14oz
TFLS with son Charlie born on 30th September, 6lbs 8oz
SamB with daughter Ruby Mae born 19th October, 7lbs 10oz
Effilump with son Arlen born 16th October, 8lbs
Sarahlou8 with daughter Emily Isabella born 21st October, 7lb8oz
Unbuffy with son James Anthony born 3rd December, 6lb8oz
HappyGirl with daughter Ciara born 10th December, 8lb2oz
Malteser1981 with son Eli born 18 December, 8lb 6oz
Zayja with daughter Winona born 19 December, 7lbs 11oz
Sparklyrainbow with son Alex born 28th December, 9lb 7oz
GoodLuckBear with son James born 25th December, 8lb
BunnyBaby with son Daniel George born 5th January 2011, 10lb 1oz
AlbaDeTamble - with son born 10th Jan 2011, 8lbs 10oz
Gilda - with son Ren born 10th Jan 2011, 8lb 4oz
WestYorkshireGirl - with daughter Hester Rose born 14th Jan 2011, 6lb 4oz
Redheadgal - with daughter Cecily Anne born 13th Jan 2011, 8lbs 13oz
Toomuchteaching - with daughter Jemima Ella Phoebe born 17th Jan 2011, 8lb1/4oz
Dorcas111 - with daughter born 4th February 2011 8lbs 5oz
Clareanna - with son Tobias born 10th February 7lbs 10oz
Muser - with daughter born 15th February 6lbs 12oz
Ba8y1 ? with son born Tuesday 15th February, 8lbs 11oz
Lotta123 - with baby born Monday 21st February
Magic8ballhastheanswers - Identical twin girls, born 27th February 6lb8 & 5lb15
Northerngoldilocks - with son born Wednesday 16th March, 9lb 6oz
Stuffedmk - with son Thomas, born Wednesday 23rd March
Hopefully - with son, born 29th March 7lb 12oz
Lia - with daughter, born 1st April 8lb 11oz
PenguinsMummy - with daughter Clodagh

In our thoughts and prayers:
Louise with daughter Georgie born asleep on 10th October

We share the pain and and mourn the loss with:
Jollster, Cheepz, Freezing, BarrenBrook, MsJL, LadyBee, Banana87, BatteryHen, HairyTriangle and Waterplate

Hellooooo moo yep heaps better thanks! All of a sudden the breathlessness has gone (touch wood) - only get it now if I've eaten loads of sugar (???) or if I'm really tired. Still off work though, absolutely shattered still. Went into London for usual monthly blood tests today and just getting the train there and back has finished me off for the day, so hope I'm feeling more energetic when I go back to work in a couple of weeks. Sorry you're breathless now, that is rubbish :(

Hey Pink

Ivy dont have SPD... just wondered what this hurting was.
Its almost like soooo tender across lower abdomen, like bean is nestled firmly right down into pelvis. Nothing central like you are talking about, nor shooting thankfully. Must just be where its lodged!! Wish the fanjo kicking would stop though... it was in such a funny position on sat night that my bump was lopsided

I dont know about induction after section Moo, but it sounds like you arent getting much support up there :( I think the induction after section thing is right though thinking about it,, but thats not for definate. hope you are relaxing and starting to enjoy Mat leave x

Give me rhubarb cake or rhubarb crumble any day of the week - YUM!

Aw loopy crossed posts.

Are you exhausted? Having the children home all week can be (wonderful of course) but very wearing. I hate weekends/weeks like those of rowing. Can empathise lots on that score. Chin up lovely, Have you got any RL help? maybe someone could do the Tea/bedtime shift for you and give your a break?

loops Its very hard when you are pregnant at the best of times, even worse when your other half is away alot of the time. I know how you feel, my dh works away alot. We have also had this with him seeming (to me) dissatisfied with his lot, espectally me and the kids, I sometimes wonder if it hasn't worked out how he envisaged fatherhood and being part of a family. I try not to think it's personal, of course thats hard when our hormones are all over the place. Have you talked to him about it,? might be that he's just working too hard. Do you have access to a babysitter for when he comes home at weekends? I try to schedule in nights out, from time to time, even just to the cinema, I know thats not exactly going out and talking but sharing a huge vat large coke and hundred weight medium popcorn is enough to reconnect us.

I'm with you on refusing a ve at this stage? Why would he want to do one now? When are they suggesting induction for? You can refuse of course and let nature take its course. I understand you not wanting to be pregnant any more but you know it's not for much longer don't you? It is, ime unlikely you will go into labour feeling as you do. I'm not saying it won't happen but especially if you are birthing at home, you need to feel safe and confident and you don't sound either of those things at the moment. Remember my posts about dh and dd and their behaviour? I knew there was no way I would go into labour under those circs, and I was right. When the atmosphere is calm, and you feel you are protected and your head and body are ready, then it will happen. Perhaps you could tell dh about the safe thing. Try and get him to understand that when he comes home, he needs to help you relax and try not to sweat the small stuff, at least for now, until loops junior has arrived.

How old are your other dc's ? I wouldn't worry too much about moaning at them at the moment, they'll get over it, if they even notice at all.

I have to say I think you might regret it if you don't try and get through the next couple of weeks and go for your hb, is this going to be your last dc? If so, think very very crefully about opting for Iol, last chance and you know you really really want it, you are just having some last minute wobbles. It's completely natural.

For what its worth, women often feel down for no reason some time before going into labour, my own time was at the beginning of the week that I had Lady P. Might be a thought. :)

What are your genuine second thoughts about? Might help to talk about them. We are here. If you want to email me its l c t w a l t e r s at sky dot com (no spaces). This thread is for us to be ourselves with no judging. Please talk to us.

caribou I'm incensed at your bloody mw. How dare she make you feel stupid, silly cow needs some refresher classes in compassion imo . Personally I think they sound like a good idea. Even if the mw has time or inclination to go through it on the day, it won't hurt to know what to expect in advance. Will also be helpful to your dh who they certainly won't have time to be supporting on the day. It's very different trying to listen to coaching when you are already in labour for gods sake.

Nice guidlines suggest sweep from 41 wks, not your due date. Of course you don't have to have one if you don't want one. It has absolutely no bearing on whether you will go into labour anyway, if you are ready, you will, if not, you won't. Telling you are favourable or not is also inconclusive. My mw told me very unfavourable,booked me in for following week, had dd 3 days later.

As for seeing your cons, I would keep that appt if I were you, you can be induced for vbac although their choices and plan will differ from a regular Iol. Ask your cons to go through the whole procedure for you. ALthough you might not even get that far. Hopefully you'll go into labour nicely on your own. :)

Hop[e this helps, you can contact Aims to look at their Vbac booklet if you want, very informative.

owl great news. :)

Hi to everyone else,

I just made this cake with a triple helping of custard. it smells lovely from the kitchen.

midwife in the morning....

cervix has been well and truly swept. Cake has already been eaten, so any midwives called out now would be cake and biscuit-less again.

Gosh Loops i just read your other thread, you do go through the mill with birthing :( no wonder you are starting to have wibbles of confidence!
I have no comment either way to be honest, i dont understand the risks or the terminology [dumb emoticon], but the risk is to you rather than your baby?

loopy I'm sure it says somewhere, but how far do you live from the hospital?

nicks I have these little icepacks that I put round my wrists or other pulsepoints which are fab.. put yer feet up.

apparently I has a cervix which is very favourable to established labour (BS of 8 or even 9), just need the actual established labour now. sigh.

personally I would be very inclined to stick with the homebirth, IMO, and discounting baby number 1 which was a secondary PPH, the other two weren't catastrophic, #2 blood loss was on the high side but technically not even a PPH (if below 500ml) afaik.
If you're willing to look at a managed 3rd stage and have hemabate at home, you can always transfer in and be fine if needs be..
It's better to birth in a safe environment at home than give birth in the back of your car on the motorway, or even worse, on one of the little lanes around here.

I'm glad my BS is what it is, at least it means the last 2 weeks weren't all in vain. now I just need labour to actually establish.

Well if Loopy is demanding light hearted pram chatter, then who am I to deny her it?????????

Got a friend to explain travel systems to me a couple of days ago and think I'm getting there.... Not with what we want/need, but at least what the options are. Am thinking of a buying strategy being ebay for the majority of the system, with a brand new car seat. Sound ok?

Sorry for being absent, it was my 20 week scan and old due date today, so have spent the last 7 days since my exam quietly freaking out. All fine though, jumping around, which didn't make for good pics but as long as everything's ok that's the important bit. And we're officially Team Yellow :)

Gotta go to work now but will try and catch up tonight :)

Good points well made Loops, will look for the car seat first and then go from there. We then have the problem though that we're both changing our cars this year, is there a list anywhere of what fits best in what car?

I was certainly going to consider something with a pram because of the lying flat thing and also this (FX) going to be an autumn/winter baby in the frozen north so I thought a pram would be warmer....

Weyhey, have managed a pram-based conversation without hyperventilating. Go me!

Woo hoo for Orange's scan news!!!! But sorry its a bittersweet day for you.

Just a quick post to say I'm here, and keeping up-to-date with everyone's news....am just utterly exhausted at the moment and feeling a bit low so keeping quiet. Please someone tell me I'll get more energy again before the end?! Not sure I can do 8+ more weeks of this!

Hope things get moving properly now ivy... no idea what 8-9 BS means, but given loopy's reaction I'm guessing that's a good sign

loops I really hope you get your homebirth..

congrats on the scan orange, sorry it had to fall on this day particularly. Hope you're doing okay.

and daisy good luck with the pram hunting. I didn't go for a travel system for DS... bought a pram/pushchair I liked and a separate car-seat and apart from one or two occasions when it "would've been nice", it's never bothered me that the car-seat doesn't go on the buggy.

Hello lovelies :)

Daisy I've moved on to sellotape, people seem scared of the stapler plus I've run out of staples

Orange Yippee! My 20 week scan pictures are basically a blur as well; Owlet does not do sitting still when he is being poked by sonographers. Why is it that important scans and so on always seem to collide with past traumatic dates? No wonder you were mentalling

Ivy That sounds v.v.promising, specially given you're not even 40 weeks yet.

Loops if you're homebirthing and the MW is with you when the ambulance gets rung it will be a priority - they won't muck about.

apples you are nearly there! When does the mad insane nesting and cleaning energy spurt start? More importantly, when does your mat leave start so you can put your feet up? :)