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FESH spa and creche: The Ultimate Destination for survivors of the Palace and Deli: Prologue

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CurlyCasperBaggedABairn · 04/07/2010 22:19

Welcome weary travellers. It's been a long road, but you made it! Now, hard as it might be, leave your ESH spawn at the creche and step into the spa - where we have every treatment available to soothe your Amityville Horror undercarriage, ravaged raspberries and worn out wits. And - wait for it - we've got the bar back. And it's all-inclusive

So, what are you waiting for? Grab a glass, lower yourself into the jacuzzi and lets get chatting. We are Forever ESH!

P.S Children never cry here...

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CurlyCasperBaggedABairn · 04/07/2010 22:25

this one is the real one...

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SilverSky · 04/07/2010 22:53

Amazing place! I though it would stink of babybee sick but no.......... ;)

Congratulations FESHs!!!!

ps Come October make sure you got the bar stacked with Sambuca in preparation for my arrival wontcha?

Backinthebox · 04/07/2010 23:45

I want to be here!

organiccarrotcake · 05/07/2010 07:35

Me too Great place, cassie. Maybe later, maybe not! xxx

Cosmosis · 05/07/2010 08:50

just marking me place

OkieCokie · 05/07/2010 09:23

Not a wiff of vom at all just a faint smell of tea tree oil baths to ease those stiched up bits.

Right, full no ho holds barred birth stories please..!

CurlyCasperBaggedABairn · 05/07/2010 10:06

will do okie just as soon as the little muncher/breast pump gives me a break!

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FannyPriceless · 05/07/2010 10:27

Wheeee! (I'm picturing myself with my socks on, for some reason.)

Thanks casp for the delightful new premises. Will be back to talk more soon.

Do we need to prepare a special chaise longue for ski's arrival today?

CurlyCasperBaggedABairn · 05/07/2010 10:51

these jammy bottoms are perfick for joining Fanny in a floor slide, weeeeeeeeee!
I am unwashed, in pj bottoms and a baggy vest top, teeth not yet brushed, hair scraped back and covered head to toe in breast milk. Is this my new life? . At least i have a cuppa and a sleepy child now. Might even go for a bath, if i don't fall asleep first!

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CurlyCasperBaggedABairn · 05/07/2010 10:54

(plumps up cushions for skidaddle)

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FannyPriceless · 05/07/2010 15:28

Right... so I think I have finally got the boy down for one of those nap thingies and am now free to post. Very excited about our new premises!

So who is here? If it's just me and caspy (plus lurkers / waiters) then casp I'm afraid you'll have to answer all my baby questions. And maybe we'll lure cheggs, cunty, don't and ski to join in too...

Anyway casp, tell me how you are going with the BF question since you mentioned you may have to give up. What have you decided?

With my previous baby I was under some pressure to give up because of the supposed relationship with SPD recovery, but I really wanted to keep going. In fact, I had horrendous nipple thrush - so bad I would actrually cry in pain when feeding - but was determined to keep going anyway. I got through that only to have a serious talk with the physio and GP about my chances of a second pg, and realised I really did have to give up in order to give my pelvis time to recover with normal hormone cycles before ttc again.

I had such mixed feelings about giving up. It was quite freeing in some ways. But BF is just so damned comnvenient when it does work! It was bloody annoying to have to start thinking about sterilising and how to make up feeds when on the run, as opposed to just lifting up my shirt.

In other news, we actually managed two outings with both children over the weekend! One to a barbecue and one to Mothercare etc. It felt like a really big deal, and took us literally hours to get organised to leave the house. Obviously I'm hoping to be an expert at this in no time...

CurlyCasperBaggedABairn · 05/07/2010 19:22

sounds like a nightmare fanny. Poor you - such a difficult situation to be in, You sound very brave.

Funnily enough, I have just been wondering whether we might have thrush. I am a regular sufferer of the vaginal kind and fear I may have passed it to baby.

She is latching on well now, but my nipples are still getting cracked and very sore. All hurts like hell when hit by the cold. striking pain under my right arm. She keeps latching on for 5-10 mins, then pulls away. She wants back on but gets all figety. Could well be that her mouth hurts. Guess a call to the MW is in order. Though the HV is supposed to have been in touch...

The plan is to keep BFing as long as poss, and I have been expressing loads. However, if I do have thrush I will now have to ditch it all . will start again when healed though. If I start to flare up, I will aim to get steroids increased as a first measure, keep taking paracetamol, and keep feeding.
The next move, if body is too buggered, will be to get her on to formula/Expressed and get myself on the hard drucks. we both need me to be strong at the end of the day. And I need to be able to exercise off the excess weight!

Hadn't thought about link between hormones because of BF and SPD. My pelvis is generally a lot better, but hip was giving me grief today. Pelvic pain in labour was awful! They were telling me I had to work through the Ring of Fire and I was thinking "that's fair enough, but what about the sensation that my pelvic bone is about to split right down the middle and send me to an agonising early grave?". Of course, some of that pain would be to do with her awkward presentation. (Mum has now revealed that there was some talk of a CS when the Picadilly Circus of docs were discussing which way she was trying to come out! still can't believe we had so many potential problems, and so many medics/second opinions yet did the lot vaginally with just G&A)

How is your pelvis fanny? Certainly sounds like you are much more mobile, which is good. Hope you are managing to enjoy the little darlings despite all the extra work!

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CurlyCasperBaggedABairn · 05/07/2010 20:37

been googling and have decided it's defo thrush. and her I thought the white lumps in here mouth were milk residue. Thankfully she's happy to take breast, bottle or cup, and the bottle appears to be less painful, so I will try to keep her happy and get a GP appointment tomorrow. I feel like I have let her down - because I know I am sensitive to thrush and probably passed it on

fanny do you know if this would make her breathing heavy/whistly?

TBH I am still overly sensitive and emotional. Poor SFF seems on tenterhooks about possible PND. BUt I don't feel sad, just hormonal and frustrated.

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FannyPriceless · 05/07/2010 21:02

caspy BF thrush is complicated to diagnose and treat. If you have some time, try to read up before you see the GP. Loads of resources and links here. I used the Jack Newman high dose flucanozole protocol when I had it bad. But it's important not to misdiagnose.

You don't need to dump the milk. I kept BF right through last time. Will try to post more shortly but just wanted to quickly get you some useful links.

OkieCokie · 05/07/2010 21:04

Cas I had a friend had thrush and this was causing an issue with feeding. The GP and HV misdiagnosed it so she went for some time continuing and suffering. I hope you will get the GP support tomorrow if it is indeed thrush, just make sure they don't fob you off.

I was teary for ages! It is perfectly normal. In fact I was amazed at how easy the tears came and for how long! But it was not PND, . I was also a bit irrational; our boiler broke down at the end of Mr C's paternity leave and bearing in mind it was Nov/Dec it was freezing and I lost the plot about this entirely. I made him take extra time off while we had workmen in fixing it but I think really it was dreading him going back to work.

CurlyCasperBaggedABairn · 05/07/2010 21:19

Thanks both, going to keep reading and will make sure the GP has a proper look.

I will keep giving her the milk each day - but don't want to be feeding her infected milk from the freezer in a couple of weeks' time IYSWIM (I have that much pumped and jarred up)

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FannyPriceless · 05/07/2010 22:56

casp Totally relate on the teariness. Strangely it's a lot less this time around though, no idea why. With DD I felt like my emotions were so close to the surface, and I was so vulnerable and exposed, and scared of people huritng me in that fragile state. I still haven't forgiven the PILs for some stuff they did/said back then. (Bear a grudge, moi?)

I am really hoping you don't have thrush. Fingers crossed your GP is clued up and can diagnose correctly. I'm also really hoping I don't get it this time either! It does seem to be going OK with him so far. My one public BF attempt so far was a disaster though - I exposed myself to the world and his dog, and ended up with a breastpad wardrobe malfunction for over an hour without realising. You would think I had this stuff down pat from before but apparently not.

skihorse · 05/07/2010 23:21

OK, look away now if you're still thinking about sneezing and fluffy white cotton towels.

I was induced thursday morning at half ten, had a couple of light contractions but frankly "boring" - and moved very slowly. At half three or so they gave me a double dose on the cervix. Again, a couple of very light contractions - in fact I fell asleep.

At 5pm I awoke to a couple of stronger contractions approx 5 minutes apart. By quarter past I buzzed the nurse and told her it was getting serious... I don't think she believed me. By 20 past 5 my contractions were less than a minute apart and of course I'd had no pain relief - I was quite scared and the consultant came in to the room as she'd heard me screaming... at which point they started taking me seriously.

As rots said, nurse offered me paracetamol. I told her to stick it up her arse... what a surprise it was when she stuck it up MINE!

Given another internal - screaming in agony - earlier in the day I'd had two people give me an internal - nothing. They decided to put in a catheter - I knew it would hurt a little but clearly something was going very wrong with my body and I was in agony and begging them to take it out. (They didn't). I yelled at the nurse who was running CTG scans on my abdomen because the elastic around me was so, so very painful.

Waters not burst and no dilation. Team suddenly getting very worried as both mine and baby's hb halved. I threatened to jump out of window. I had drips in both arms and a catheter so was severely limited for movement although did take myself off to the toilet as I felt like I needed a poo - also hoped big push would break waters. Jailbait said the next day that he knew I'd been in serious labour when I "marched" down the corridor snapping "I don't care who sees my fucking minge!".

Decision made for c-section - they were asking jailbait for permission because I was totally delirious and had "given up" and gone limp and floppy.

Team scrambled and was taken in to theatre at 7:51, as I was being wheeled in they were still trying to decide between epidural and G&A. I'd heard that epidurals are very painful to receive. Lies.

Baby born at 7:59. Jailbait in scrubs sat by my head - we talked shit about the dogs. He was absolutely terrified. Felt my body being wrenched from side to side. He was taken to the room next door where the paediatritians were waiting. Baby had the cord around his neck and was a dark grey colour. Jailbait told that his first few breaths had been very hard going. From where I was being sewn up (and tbh, past caring - they could've started cutting bits off me) I heard a mewling and then a big scream - which made me happy. Jailbait dropped to his knees in tears and accompanied baby up to neo-natal unit.

He stayed there less than 20 minutes as he was begging to get back to me. They let him in to recovery once I was stitched up and he had the camera with me so whilst I regained the feeling in my body he was able to show me photos of my son.

At 10pm or so I was taken up to neo-natal and encouraged to have skin-skin contact with him.

Back on ward consultant gynae/ob came to explain that they didn't know what happened. There was not one significant enough factor at play and whilst the cord had been around his neck it hadn't been tight enough to cause such trauma... I'll make a textbook!

So basically my bits are in fine working order because nothing fucking happened to them.

Anyone else pass clots the size of a pack of butter? No? Just me? Oh well then...

skihorse · 05/07/2010 23:22

PS I don't remember much of what happened between half five and half seven... probably for the best really. Although it would appear that if you want them to stop fucking around talking paracetamol - threaten to kill yourself!

CurlyCasperBaggedABairn · 05/07/2010 23:34

yes to the blood clots, yes to urgeto inflict extreme violence on CTG lady, yes to early contraction boredom, yes to not giving a fuck in the corridors, yes to PESH babies being awkward little fuckers who puzzle the medical profession. I think our two would get on well ski!

Humour to the side now, that must have been very scary, so well done to all three if you. You deserve a smoothe run from here in x

rots has done it!

I will do proper birth story when I can. Wish i'd photocopied my records when i had them...

Thanks FP. All I know is that i really should not have this much breast pain and my baby isn't too happy suckling for long periods, but it's different to the state she was in last weekend. Will see what doc says.

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Scorpette · 05/07/2010 23:34

Ski, am liking your style! It sounds bloody (literally) horrific so am v pleased you're on the mend.

Just popped in to offer to all the new FESHes and re-FESHes this immensely soppy but awwwwww-some vid I stumbled across on YouTube. Enjoy: www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7uov4lKCxs&feature=youtu.be

donttrythisathome · 05/07/2010 23:44

Marking me spot!

On ski - you poor things - the 3 of you (isnt it lovely to say the 3 of you?). But it all worked out. My birth was very dramatic as well but sure you really don't give a flying f*ck when the babs and you are ok. I paraded me minge around me kitchen as well and pooed on the doctor's table in the hospital and spent the next few hours telling anyone in even vague proximity to me.

How is the bf going? Did they tell you about the football hold (to keep babs away from the stitches).

Thrush thing sounds awful. Yep was only remembering the other night how I cried a lot at the start - now I can't remember the last time I cried! Wow it gets better so quick.

CurlyCasperBaggedABairn · 05/07/2010 23:44

thanks Scorps! Sff is already working on similar. We'll see if he lasts...

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SilverSky · 06/07/2010 06:47

Welcome back!!!!

Glad you and Julian are safe and well.

cheggers · 06/07/2010 10:24

hello feshies am here.

lol at butter block blood clot. had forgotten all about that.

not altogether unpleasant (silky) - but i thought my liver had fallen out or something??!!

i had to ask the nurses to turn me round so i could look at it in the commode.

(was still a bit fucked at that point!)

sorry you had to do the nasty op ski i know is not what you wanted but glad you and the boy are fine and dandy

(still can't believe anyone actually chooses the sunroof option?)

casp can't wait for your birth story. i love a bit of gore me ....

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