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FESH spa and creche: The Ultimate Destination for survivors of the Palace and Deli: Prologue

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CurlyCasperBaggedABairn · 04/07/2010 22:19

Welcome weary travellers. It's been a long road, but you made it! Now, hard as it might be, leave your ESH spawn at the creche and step into the spa - where we have every treatment available to soothe your Amityville Horror undercarriage, ravaged raspberries and worn out wits. And - wait for it - we've got the bar back. And it's all-inclusive

So, what are you waiting for? Grab a glass, lower yourself into the jacuzzi and lets get chatting. We are Forever ESH!

P.S Children never cry here...

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SkiHorseWonAWean · 07/07/2010 14:18

honey I had a good month around 30 week mark of going through night without needing to wake up. Am peeing and pooing fine now - was nervous about first poo so had eaten lots of pumpernickel in hospital.

OkieCokie · 07/07/2010 15:04

Ok, here goes, for Cas. All those still childless please ignore and move on to next post.

My labour started naturally and waters broke (all over the bedroom floor). Decided to go to hospital and planned to head straight to the birth suite for my much longed for water birth but this was not possible as there was clearly meconium in the waters. Remember on "One Born Every Minute" where she sniffs the pad to see? Well the midwife had a full on examination of the colour and contents of my pad it in front of me and Mr C - I can laugh now but I was mortified!

Anyway, they wanted to keep a close eye in case baby was in distress. After about 6 hours it was clear labour was not progressing and they wanted to speed things up so they induced me with the oxytocin drip. This nearly killed me as the contraction went from average to full on hard core in the space of about 2 hrs.

Anyway labour evetually started to progress and at the very last minute the little blighter turned and was presenting face first which meant I needed to get him out and quick and with help. They rushed me to theatre, prepped me for emergency C section (massive epidural) and said I had three chances to push him out or they would do a c section. On the third push and with forceps he was born, but then the fun started!

They had to give me an episiotomy and were stitching me back up (wee man was already in neonatal care as he was not well) and they were taking AGES ? I was shaking uncontrollably and they could not take my blood pressure so they give me a shot of pethidine to chill me out which was excellent (I am still the only person I know who had pethidine post birth!)

After two hours of them being ?down there? they advised that they could not stop my uterus bleeding (I have since found out it was a primary post partum haemorrhage) and I had lost over a litre of blood. I kept on seeing these big blood soaked dressings and what looked like huge bloody pads of cotton wool and I still thought they were still stitching me up! They said they needed it to stop and they had to insert a "balloon" up my chufty filled with a litre of saline to keep my womb from collapsing and to try and stem the bleeding from the lining of the womb and if I lost any more blood I would have a blood transfusion and worse case scenairo remove the uterus.

Fortunately the balloon worked and the internal bleeding gradually stopped but I had to have it in there for 36 hrs and it was total agony. Imagine immense pressure on your back passage (and then times it by 200) and not been able to get up. I was on morphine every two hrs and was still in agony. The kept me in high dependency for 3 days and I did not see my little man for the first 2 days as I could not move to him and he could not leave neonatal (I had a little picture).

Anyway ? we both survived and all in tact, I got out 5 days later although one of the last things the midwife at the hospital said to me is that after what happened they hoped would not prevent me conceiving again!

So there you are! Fairly grim but I am still back to do it all again...

rollerbaby · 07/07/2010 15:19

Oh my god Okes that is pretty horrific. You poor poor thing. I have just read that through my fingers. Did they give you any indication why a primary post partum hemorrage would occur so severely or is it completely random? Does the consultant have any opinion on how things should go this time? Your husband must have been beside himself with worry.

So glad it was all ok and little man all fine. How horrid not to see him for 2 days. Bless you.

OkieCokie · 07/07/2010 15:27

YOU should not have read that moo!

I am not sure is the answer, could be random, could be due to the forceps, could be placenta. However, I do intend to get my old notes transferred to new hospital and go through them with the consultant for closure and to prepare for next time. All they have said is I can't have a home birth, but I would not want one anyway.

They checked things out on the scan today and all looks normale in the womblar region and placenta looks good.

All birth stories are pretty horrendous really. It fucking hurts. But that is why woman are the better and stronger sex (IMO!)

rollerbaby · 07/07/2010 15:43

This thread is like the film your mum won't let you watch when you are little, but you can't help yourself and scare yourself silly for a week and can't sleep.

Oh well, is going to happen one way or another so best start praying now.

Women are definitely the best. Men have no clue whatsoever. Still can't be nice for them to watch.

Backinthebox · 07/07/2010 16:02

Haha! I'm STILL not going to scare anyone with my previous experience! Suffice to say I have paid the cost of a family ski holiday to ensure I have a private midwife on my side at all times this time round. And my top tip to anyone needing any kind of hospital treatment at all for anything really, not just birth-related, is never let a one-eyed doctor anywhere near you with a scalpel . Tis true! Not only do they slice through things they can't identify, they then can't figure out how to put you back together again - all the while the spinal block was wearing off......

That's enough for now . When I told OH last night I thought he might be over-planning and it was like he was preparing for a siege, his reply was 'that's because my only experience of labour felt like a fucking siege!'

Still - interesting to read other people's experiences. Just shows that there are lots and lots of ways you can have a crappy birth!

Backinthebox · 07/07/2010 16:05

If you ask my OH about his experience of DD's birth, it was fairly harrowing for him too. He did not have a happy time - like Ski's man, he was not told anything for hours and was worried we were both dead. His last sight of DD was of her blue and limp being rushed out of the operating theatre while I was being put under GA by a very agitated anaesthetist. He was then pushed out into a corridor and told nothing. Poor boy!

SkiHorseWonAWean · 07/07/2010 16:17

boxer jailbait was only away from me for an hour. As soon as I was stitched up and doing well in recovery he was allowed in - he got very stressed on neonatal because he was asking about me and of course they didn't know, all they could say was that it was "standard".

On the whole I'm happy with my experience, just a little startled to read that okie was tol her 2 hour labour was fast... compared to my 20 minutes!

One-handed pump typing. Quelle glameur!

SilverSky · 07/07/2010 20:07

You's lot is rick 'ard. Respect.

I am keeping an open mind. I fear Husband will be useless as despite him being a big horror movie fan, he can't even face watching me have my bloods taken!

All the bf info is great and if I have ishoos I will give an expert a call.

I have got a pain on my right side and it feels like a pulled muscle. Dr Husband (reads a book and is now a medical profeshnal) thinks it's my ribs stretching.

Also I mainly feel movement on the right hand side - tis normale?

rollerbaby · 07/07/2010 20:11

Silver I iz also feeling kicks mainly on right. Maybe they lay that way...

SilverSky · 07/07/2010 20:35

moo a-ha! You too! do you reckon its feet or hands!?

Also do you find when you are pulling up your troos or whatever that you hold your tum in and it looks a funny shape a la conehead!?

FESHs so any top tips for once you get your new baybees home?

What are your baybees sleeping in? Vests? Saddle cloffs? Or wot?

So if you haz a sunroof - you still get leakage below and shiz? I guess it has to come out somewhere. Man I am seriously thick and uneducated in the ways of the birthing.

SilverSky · 07/07/2010 20:39

Shit! Not saddle cloffs ( tho I haz plenty ) I meant swaddling cloths! Fricking predictive fricking cocking text!!!

rollerbaby · 07/07/2010 20:51

Right hand, DEFINITELY feet - they are the stronger bits and tummy moved today after a small (honest) square of chocolate. He luvs his sugar my boy.

SilverSky · 07/07/2010 21:10

Sugar addict here too. Am halfway through bag of toffee covered popcorn.

Reminds me - I must make a dentist appt so I can flash my exemption card and get me some free smile work!

Backinthebox · 07/07/2010 21:11

Wrt leakage - they vacuumed me out well so I only used about 3 pads in total . But normally you still get all leaky bits.

I am going to try a saddle cloth now you mention it - DD didn't like the swaddling cloth. She slept in sleep suits, and she refused to sleep in those lovely sleep bags too. I'd have loved to have got her more of those if it wouldn't have been such a waste of cash!

Right side is good for feeling movement - means the baby's back is to your left. Have a look here to try and figure out what you can feel.

donttrythisathome · 07/07/2010 21:21

Aww cunty and curly that's lurvely. Wish I'd have the balls to co-sleep. I find everyone, even hippy dippy types, seem to be really getting brainwashed into sleep training the little babs, get them into their own rooms, don't cuddle them to sleep etc. Tis sad, and tough enough to resist. Feel like I'm going against the tide in real life by feeding/rocking DD to sleep and keeping her in arms a lot.

Must catch up on the birth stories...

Curly well impressed with the lying down feeding - only managed this about a month ago (DD 3 and a half months). Still find it a bit hard.

SilverSky · 07/07/2010 21:36

Ahhhhh thanks boxy!

rollerbaby · 07/07/2010 21:57

Is it me or is that site quite complicated to follow? Need to re-read when brain cells operational clearly.

FannyPriceless · 07/07/2010 22:26

silver with my first sunroof I had hardly any leakage - like boxy I used about 3 pads. This one... well I'm still going at 4 weeks plus.

It came up in conversation when I spoke to the GP on the phone today (to get my all clear for driving - yippee). She said it really should stop about now but the main thing is to keep alert for any signs of infection, and we'll revisit if it's still going at 6 weeks. The surgeon did say that it's harder for stuff to contract after more than one c-s, hence more pain in the after birth period.

SkiHorseWonAWean · 08/07/2010 04:48

silver I had stopped using pads by monday but had to syart again yesterday and passed more clots last night (lurpak travel size , but clots asid it's been no worse than a normal period.

He's sleeping in a romper and sleepsuit under a tucked in numnah blanket. We are also using hat, mitts and boots at night to ensure his temp stays up.

As for blood and gore, jailbait had always said he wasn't keen on "seeing his favourite pub burn dowm ([tm] TGO), however he manned up, took me to the toilet to have a poo, saw my butter-clot, carried my catheter bag, wiped my bum with wipes and washed my feet. This, in addition to other things has let to a new found respect and greater love for him. When I was at my "worst" last week, he was at his best. Have faith!

SilverSky · 08/07/2010 06:51

ski JB sounds like he was a saint when you needed him to be. Not sure my better half will be able to do so. Don't think he has the stomach for it. I can imagine he'd help me to the loo or shower, deposit me there and then send in a nurse ( or worse his mother! ) in to do the dirty work!!! But like you say let's wait and see!

Can't believe it's oy Thursday. I am soooooooooo tired. Hoping a shower will spring me into action. Did anyone else around the 25 week want to fast track to their ML. It seems so far away!!!!

In horsey news, my sharer has handed in her notice. Give nag 3 mths off and hope over back in the saddle asap and pray for no sunroof and lots of babysitters or try and find a replacement!? Ishoo is cost! Trust me I ask a fair price!

SkiHorseWonAWean · 08/07/2010 07:16

Fair price? I've not asked for any money and it's still been hard... next time jb will ride or she'll go to pasture! Yes, he was amazing because in addition to me he was trying to look after yhe poor dogs whose routine went to pot and were being left in the flat in crazy temps not knowing when he'd be home. Next time kennels?

SilverSky · 08/07/2010 08:02

Indeed hard cash! That way you tend to get decent honest responsible folk who cos they are making a contribution take more care. That's my experience. In my neck of the woods is very unusual to get a share where it's completely for nowt. Even those that don't contribute financially will do stable duties or something.

Only trouble with giving birth and kennels is when the heck do you know when to book the dogs in? Guess if you are having a definite date eg cs then tis possible otherwise mutts could be in kennels for weeks!

S'pose I better go to work........ Catch you all later. Hope you have lovely day at home with your newborns.

carrots are you there? Are you ok??

Backinthebox · 08/07/2010 09:51

Sorry Silver but I also had trouble getting one for free. Have got a free one now, and I am damned sure I am going to hang onto her - even if that means I run her about like a horsebox taxi service. OTOH she does EVERYTHING! 2 horses and an evil pony, and she mucks them all out, keeps them all fit and schooled, did 24hr round the clock surveillance last week when racehorse was colicky, and she takes them out to shows and lessons of my choosing too. She is like gold dust, and I know cluckykate has enquired more than once if she has a sister! With ma Jennie on side we have horsey expansion plans too, that wouldn't otherwise be possible without help .

Have you thought of a short term loan, whereby all costs and care are met by the sharer? That way you would be able to go and pat gee-gee but not have to do anything else at all, safe in the knowledge that when you pop you won't have to be worrying about getting back to give them evening feeds etc? You can still call all the shots about where is an appropriate place to keep him and wrt general stuff like what he is fed and what are allowable activities with him, and control who rides him, but with no financial or care responsibilities for a little while. Alternatively you could put him in a training college (the only one I can think of off the top of my head would be Merrist Wood) where there are BHS students (so not beginners) who would use him for their lessons and do all the care stuff too. Last time I was pregnant big horse was on part livery, and I kept him there but managed to get it bumped up to full livery by letting them use him for BHS lessons. I went along to lots of them and learned loads, and so did he. Just some thoughts.

iggypiggy · 08/07/2010 10:39

Get you lot in the 'Being a Parent' section on MN

I am not reading your posts - just dropping in to say hi - too worried will read something I don't want to Bt hope all teh baybees are ok.

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