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November 09 - solids and crawling underway but sleepless nights still here to stay!!

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scarlotti · 27/05/2010 20:44

New and shiny thread

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Laugs · 29/05/2010 17:22

whoppers Maybe your DS has been watching that Gok's Fashion Fix ad. Every time my DH sees Gok he feels the need to say 'bangers' in a really annoying voice for about an hour like he is, in fact, a 4 yr-old. He will be 29 in a couple of weeks...
Nice dilemma to be in with the two jobs. I think I'd take the nearer one in what seems like a nicer school.

Speaking of birthdays, Pavlov what are you getting DH? (great news about the builder )

scarlotti sorry things have got to this point but well done on holding it all in while DD has her exams (have they started? how are they going?). It must be really tough for you at the moment.

Who wants to go into business with me producing frozen cubes of fruit and veg purees, that you would buy from the frozen foods aisle in the supermarket?? I can't think why nobody has done this before, it is so simple and obvious. I can't get beyond the brand name...

Too Posh to Puree

So. Do you think I missed my niche in advertising?

Fruitpastels · 29/05/2010 18:23

Weaning Any of you having problems feeding red meat or poultry to their DC? I've tried a couple of meat dishes this week and C really didn't like them. Could be my cooking! He loves fish/lentils/veg and fruit. Any ideas ladies?

Doing bedtime routine on my own. I will catch up with you all a little later

weston · 29/05/2010 18:36

i think babylicious might have already beaten u too it laugs! DD1 lived on their range, fab for giving to childminder

Laugs · 29/05/2010 19:18

Oh what a shame weston, back to the what-shall-I-be-when-I-grow-up drawing board! I've never seen babylicious, think I would buy it.

fruit are you blending the meat or giving it cut up? I haven't started meat yet with J but I remember with DD meat wasn't very nice blended, it takes on a strange texture. Much nicer cut up if C can manage that.

By the way, those doing BLW, when can you start giving pieces of meat, rice cakes etc? I have only given fruit and veg so far (of finger foods and purees)

scarlotti · 29/05/2010 19:27

Pav I'm not sure what he'll think tbh. I'm happy to see it as a trial as I think it will do me good to see how I feel on my own too, easier to sort out how you feel when you're not stuck in the middle of things. Sadly I feel that things are maybe irretrievable ... I suggested we look at our budget so finances are more joint. He did his and has things like £5 a week for sweets, £100 a month for clothes, £50 a month on hobbies (as far as I know he has none) he brings home about £1400 a month in case you all think he's loaded. Personally I don't think this is the sort of budget a grown father of 3 should be having - a teenager maybe...
Am loving your descriptions of bear cub's antics and his jazz hands!!

Laugs loving the idea and had no idea it was already available! DD's exams started last week with English Lit and she feels that went well. It is tough keeping quiet, but will be worth it. Am thinking I'll wait until mid June when most are over then broach the conversation. We have 10 days in Menorca booked for early July so heavens knows what will happen to that.
Ideally he'd agree that we need to do this, and then we could do it amicably and also enjoy a family holiday - I suspect I'm being a bit naive though

Fruit the chicken dishes I started with were AK ones that had sweet potato in, one had apple added and the other carrot, so they were quite sweet. We moved on to spag bol then after that once he'd got used to the chicken.

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scarlotti · 29/05/2010 19:30

Laugs x-post. As far as I know the BLW way is to give meat as soon as you like. I'd say any time from 6 months is fine. Certainly Ioan was ready, and didn't settle more at night until he had 2 protein meals a day. From 6 months you should be offering everything - only things I've heard you should wait for is strawberries (9 months) and eggs (9 months) although others give them earlier with no problems.

Fruit I second Laugs, I don't blend meat, I just mash it. Think you're BLW though so is he just sucking on it?

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popyourwhoppers · 29/05/2010 20:02

Laugs maybe for your new role you should offer marketing services to Babylicious- they are not advertising well if so many of us are unaware of them!

Taken further away job, better role, really nice head, day off every week, feeling very very happy and priveleged (sp?) to have finally sorted the job search and in such a nice way.
Laugs are you an Aries too? apparently thsi is the beginning of an amazing cycle for use rams!

Scarlotti finances are such a problem in relationships, so glad me and dh will be back to separate bank accounts now I have a job!

Pavlov · 29/05/2010 20:38

laugs if no-one knows about it, you can also bring it out on the market you know. Not just one brand of food, look at how much crap or different makes you can buy for babies, so a frozen bag of pre-pureed baby food would be great. you could do 'organic' if babylicious don't already. We buy frozen ice cubes and we all buy (i presume we all do) frozen peas or other frozen veg so same type of thing but for babies. I would buy it and I love the name .

Not sure what to get DH, given the finances. He does not want anything. We have a tradition of going strawberry picking, we do not consider it strawberry season until his birthday and we are not allowed to buy strawberries until then! he then wants to watch footie as it is the first day! We were going camping but not able to get a pitch at the place we wanted. How about your DH? What are your plans? Its father's day the following week, so will need to something there too, will probably celebrate that more, seeing as he is new parent again!

BLW and meat - DD did not have any beef until nearer one. No formal reason, i just could not bring myself to give her meat that would stay stuck in her colon for up to 10 years. When she was about 7 months or so we gave her a huge chunk of pork to chomp on. And later lamb but she was not keen on lamb. Even when she started beef she did not like it, not for a long time but enjoyed pork. She loved chicken. We mushed it with potatoes/other veg to soften the flavour. Before we knew it she was ugg ugg baby with a drumstick! (not for a long time though!, can't even remember when, but passed one I am sure!).

scarlotti · 29/05/2010 20:56

Ladies

Was wondering ... and please do say no if you'd rather I didn't .. but could I post my fundraising page and ask if you'd consider sponsoring me for my Inca Trail trek? I am raising money for Have a Heart, a charity that helps disadvantaged and vulnerable children.

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Fruitpastels · 29/05/2010 21:32

Thanks ladies. I think as C is so good with all the other food, I'm happy for him to not have red meat or chicken for a while. I'm doing some BLW but mainly spoonfeeding now. I will mush it with a fork once he has a few teeth and seems more ready for it. I had blended it and thought how grainy it looked. He has had chicken from my plate but never managed to swallow any of it. I would like him to have a more filling dinner of an evening as it seems to really help him sleep a lot longer, hence mostly stopping the BLW. And I've noticed a huge change on the nappies front. My goodness C has gone from one poop every 10-12 days to 2-3 a day!

scarlotti Sounds like your mind is made up about your marriage. I would like to say, you sound such a lovely person and a fantastic mummy, you deserve to be happy and to live life to the full. Many women go it alone with their children and I'm sure you'll manage. I hope it gets sorted out soon either way. I'm happy for you to post your fundraising page

Loving the name changes. My brain can just about keep up!

helips Glad to hear your DH is back from his trip. I don't like it very much when DH has to go away.

Pav Will you get any money back from this twat builder?

whoppers Loving your name. Wish I was blessed in that department Well done on the job offers.

SirB Do what works for you and Bryn with the food. Jars are a wonderful invention and there is nothing wrong in using them.

scarlotti · 29/05/2010 22:23

Ha ha, we have lots more dirty nappies here now too! He seems to spread going across a whole day and I get little bits in each nappy.

Fruit thanks, that's really sweet of you to say. I have just realised that to stay as we are will mean me teaching/nagging him about every aspect of being a grown up so the only option left is to split and see where that takes us. Who knows, it might just be the thing he needs - he's never lived alone as he left his mum's to move in with me, so it may just be the making of him.

Talking of whoppers what is everyone doing re bras? I am now down to morning and evening feeds, with an overnight one thrown in. I tend to wear normal bras to work, but my old ones are too small. Do I go buy another or wait until feeding has completely stopped? I don't know what's going to happen size wise.. Any thoughts?

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Fruitpastels · 29/05/2010 22:42

scarlotti All the best in what you choose to do.

I have no answer to the bra situation. I'm hoping I will be left with something after 2 pregnancies. My first pg didn't do anything for my bust size and now I'm starting to worry what I'll be left with this time! Maybe you can pick up a couple of reasonably priced bras to keep you going.

Laugs · 30/05/2010 13:27

Thanks for mentioning the BLW book in that baby magazine Weston. I got it today and have flicked through.

And thanks for all your nice comments about my fantasy business! I am always coming up with plans like this... the last one was buying a moped and a soup tureen and selling luxury porridge to commuters at the train station, just before Starbucks, Pret et al caught on to the porridge craze. I like to think I have my finger on the pulse - ha - fortunately it is just chat. Although I once nearly bought an ice cream van on Ebay despite the fact I can't drive

fruit could you do me a big favour sometime (no rush), would you be able to measure that Ikea highchair from floor to the top of the seat? We have lost an essential part of our highchair since we converted it to a table and chair (the pole that keeps them in!), so J has been eating in his Bumbo so far. Think I might just get that Ikea one as it is cheap and this pole is nowhere to be found, but I was wondering if it would be able to be pulled in under the table, as we don't have loads of space. Thanks!

scarlotti I'm glad DD's exams seem to be going well. I remember mine as being quite stressful. Remind her it is the last time in life she will have to be tested on subjects she doesn't like! I found A-levels, degree easier actually, as it was the subjects I was naturally good at.
Good idea to post your fundraising page - here or on facebook would be fine I think

Fruitpastels · 30/05/2010 13:47

laugs I haven't got around to buying the Ikea chair. If I get to Ikea in the next couple of days I will let you know the measurement.

BeckyBendyLegs · 30/05/2010 16:27

Boo!

Fruit - C 31/10
Helips - Millie 1/11
ursigurke - Paula 4/11
Scarlotti - Ioan - 8/11
Wook - Hedy - 9/11
SirBoob - Bryn 11/11
Trikken - Annabelle 14/11
BeckyBendyLegs - Toby 14/11
Weston - Lexi 16/11
Hobnob57 - I 22/11
Babba - bear cub 28/11
Dontworrybaby - E 29/11
MissInterpret - Rosa 3/12
Laugs - J 4/12
skorpion - Lucy 9/12

No major news here. DH been away all weekend and I've had a great time with the DSs. I was dreading it but we've had a lovely weekend making cheese and bacon tarts, shopping, playing, watching Eurovision, etc.

No moving here yet. But not sitting either. Toby doesn't like being on his tummy and the other DSs were bottom shufflers so Toby has a good chance of following his brother's bottom steps, so to speak!

SirBoob hope you are better now. There does seem to be a few sicky bugs around at the moment so perhaps it was just one of those.

Pavlov · 30/05/2010 20:07

Bear cub has now decided (well, always has, but I have been very reluctant) that his front is where he wants to be and he is now, as of today, a front sleeper. He had his nap on his front and is now in bed on his front. I am making no comments on his sleeping atm. I will tell you about it in the morning (ie, if I don't say it out loud I won't jinx it ).

Bear cub has really really bad nappy rash. Only it is not really nappy rash. It is like a couple of patches of burn, raw skin. In his folds, and a bit under his willy. It looks so so sore. But not sure why. I guess it is food related? But what food that is the question...it can be any of the following: butternut squash, courgette, he had several other things but only once. And this is getting worse. He does have a fungal rash under his chin, for which he has cream, and the cream is for amongst other things 'fungal fold sores' could they be related do you think? Or food? We have gone back to what we know he can eat, to see if that is it?

Fruitpastels · 30/05/2010 20:26

Pav has he had any fruit? Some babies get nappy rash more than others. I would suggest (and I'm sure you already know this) to keep nappy off for a good length of time and frequently for a good airing. I think you already use water/cotton wool for nappy changes, if not, maybe just use water and baby soap to clean him up. I looked after a little girl who had severe nappy rash and she needed it treated with fungal cream. Her tummy was sensitive and would have several stools a day, and if left for even a short time in a soiled nappy would cause her nappy rash. C is loving his front too but he's still trying to work out how to get back on his back!

Fruitpastels · 30/05/2010 21:15

Sorry pav just read your post again that you don't think it's nappy rash. DS1 would get sore after eating fruit as his urine would be very acidic. Hope it improves quickly for him.

scarlotti · 30/05/2010 21:22

Pav sorry to hear he's got a sore botty, hope it gets better soon. Glad he's found a comfy way to sleep Ioan likes to sleep on his side given the choice!

Having to change the dream feed routine here as he keeps waking up too much and then staying awake for ages. I think he's exceedingly sensitive to light so going to try and not turn the lamp on tonight. Need to restick the blackout paper on the windows too as there are chinks of light again!

My life seems obsessed with sleep again!! Or the lack of

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popyourwhoppers · 30/05/2010 21:37

Pav is it a teething botty? H's has been not great recently, lots of nappy free- aka weeing on the rug- time helped. (didn't help the rug though)

Fruit Whoppers is far from the truth- more like floppers! Without the impact of serious hormonal changes I have bee sting boobs, alas now also downwards pointing, AND with the sexy bonus of stretch marks. If ever there was a call for a boob job- or jab- it was here. But since I am not into such things at all I am going to have to go for cantilevered bras or something when serious bfing ends in a couple of months or so!
(In the meantime 'whoppers' has become a family catchphrase. Our other one is 'Algeria!!!!!' which generally means 'hurrah!' or 'cheers' or any other kind of positive exclamation.Don't ask me why!! Some things just stick)

Scarlotti will def sponsor you, as soon as I have my first pay cheque!

Laugs coffee van?

SirBoobAlot · 30/05/2010 22:43

Firstly:

Laugs here is a virtual (gentle) slap for you, as since your MS post I have been thinking I have been feeling a baby kick even though my period was a week ago. You horrible person .

Pavlov poor little guy. Something I remember reading a while ago is that allergic reactions don't appear until the second time a person has come into contact with something, so is there anything you have given him for the second time this week? I hope he is better soon

We have had a difficult day emotionally here. DP is missing his dad, I am missing my friend. And Bryn has been in a lot of pain. Then the poor lamb turned himself onto his front into his sleep and scared the hell out of himself. He sleeps on his side and must have just turned himself over

Hope you're all okay. Isn't it strange how few of us are still posting regularly in comparison to the antenatal threads? Parenthood really does turn everything on end

Pavlov · 31/05/2010 07:24

sirboob sorry things are tough for you and DP atm .

scarlotti yes, DD is very sensitive to the sunlight, unfortunately. She woke so early yesterday she was in bed last night by 6:50pm, then this morning 'mama! its the moooorning!' no, its not. its really not (5:50am) 'but the sun is awake, really awake, not a little bit awake'. She has blackout velux blinds in her bedroom which are fab, but not in the hallway where there is a skylight too. That means she opens her door and sees it. Need to address that one.

Bear Cub slept much better last night after sleeping on his front. He went to bed at 7:30pm, earliest so far, and slept til 11:30pm, then til 2am, fed, then 3:50am, fed then woke at 6:45am. Much much better. I shall see how it goes before kicking out the 3:50am feed. On his front the whole night. He was more peaceful last night than I think he has ever slept (other than on me), even with the several wakings, and a cold. I hope this is the start of things to come, but not holding out! However, having two well slept children makes a hugs difference both are very very happy this morning.

re: nappy rash. POW (i like the abbreviation!) I think it could be a teething bottom. DD had it every time, but it was more spotty red bottom which was raw in a couple of places, perhaps this is just different for him. DD used to wee on the rug and as such we are now rugless as by the time she had potty trained it stank! so now we have bare floor and mats for rolling. fruit It is nappy rash, I think what I mean by saying I don't think it is nappy rash is that it is not conventional red all over bottom . It is just in the folds of one side, on in the fold under his willy only, the rest of his bottom etc is very clear. It does seem like an acid burn, and he has had a couple of bits of different fruit, but not enough for it to continue and it has got worse even when he has not had it. He has tetanium cream, not helping. But, I do have some fungal cream for his chin, not sure if I should give it a try, could I make it worse?

fruit re builder. In theory we will get some of our money back, yes. We will be awarded a judgment against him (a CCJ) for an amount the judge feels fair which we can take steps to recover, but that costs money. We could potentially get a charge on his house as that is a business asset (we are suing his business, not him personally), or get a bailiff to take business property, but a bailiff costs £200 a pop (he would 'pay' the costs, but we have to pay up front and add on to overall costs).

Pavlov · 31/05/2010 07:30

sirboob I have had pg symptoms, think it is the pill i am on. I had missed one and when I started getting lower back pain and pain/pulling in my tummy I had convinced myself I was pregnant. Absolutely convinced. I took a pg test and read it wrong and absolutely collapsed with fear of how on earth i could look after 3 under 5! I walked to the car (not at home) and just sat there, staring at this test, and staring then saw that the line i was staring at was not the 'pregnant' line but the 'test working' line I can tell you that was a scaring 15 minutes! But it was about 4 weeks, and when the feelings did not go away (right down to what i thought could be flutters, swollen belly etc) I did another one. Just in case. And am not pregnant. But, I have not had any period so had nothing to check against. Apart from absence of any sickness

scarlotti · 31/05/2010 07:31

Pav Ioan gets the same thing in the fold just under his willy, and just around him bottom iykwim. For us, Sudocream works a treat, I slather it on and the next nappy change already shows an improvement.
That is what annoys me about these cowboy builders, or any other cowboys tbh, you can take them to court etc. and on paper get your just rewards, but when it turns into getting the readies then it's another matter

SirB sorry you're both struggling and am so sorry I didn't spot your text yesterday in time. It's a tough time for you both so just try and hang on in there.

Ioan decided he didn't want his dream feed last night, then his night feed was earlier at 1:30 am. Did nobody tell him it's the night feed he was supposed to drop first

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scarlotti · 31/05/2010 07:32

Pav argh at your fake positive!!

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