June 08 - if your name's not down you're not coming in!

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Welcome to our new cliquey thread !

Oh Deb your poor boys! And poor you. I hate vomiting bugs so much. You can have all my chocolate allowance. Fudge too!

Rolf, we had a fantastic private speech therapist for ds1 who changed his life. She had this sheet of about 50 words that she monitored him with. When she started seeing him he could say 3. About 15 months later there were less than 10 he couldn't say. Most of the work she did with him was about teaching him to put his lips/tongue in the right position to make the right sound (once we had strengthened his lips/tongue so that he could do this at will). It sounds really obvious to say that, but previous speech therapists had just tried to get him to parrot sounds he had no idea how to make.

Do I get kicked off the thread for admitting that I don't like coffee? It tastes nasty.

sybil are your vendors looking for a survey for the house you're buying (so confused by the English system....)? I do not know how you all cope, no wonder moving house is said to be the most stressful thing ever!

Sorry, I wrote that in a strop rush, and it was not clear. The people we are buying from have not yet got a survey on the house they are meant to be buying. They have already said that if the survey has problems (no idea what they consider to be 'problems') they will pull out and take their house off the market. This will leave us almost 4 months down the line with no house to buy and our buyer is getting very annoyed at the delay so may then decide to pull out of buying our house. God I miss chocolate.

wine? crisps?

Ah yes wine as a substitue for chocolate - at least you don't get the headache until the next day! Sybil - I feel your pain - house buying is a fecking nightmare which thankfully we have got over now after a hideous time of it last year. You'll get there in the end. I've told mark I am never moving again!

Aberdeen - I am prepared to fight you for the honour of my capsule coffee machine!!

These speech therapists sound amazing. Luke has a lisp but I think all kids do at this age (er..do they??). He also misses an s off the front of words completely like dar for star and deps for steps. Today we were in the park and he was saying to me where's my dick, where's my dick? I was a bit shocked!! He was looking for his stick though (magic wand .

Cheap sweets? Haribi for preference Sybil- that is shut news. The house buying system sucks.

I have cheapo gaggia and agree with ah that Its not an issue doing own coffee.

Deb that is horrible - hope big boys get better soon and relief parcel helps.

Spider it's hormone / tiredness- we all have shit days like that (I particularly hate how e lashes out at me not dh when tired). And totally agree that speech is massively varied- as someone else (biscuits I think) said look how varied they were on walking. I remember going to softplay with you Eddie and penguin and thinking how behind e was when she could only crawl not walk.

Amber have you thought about taking commission from
nespresso? And what if you run out of pods...

Amber - foam swords it is then (nominates Poppy as my second)... Fraser's "fork" was a bit shocking for a while too but his pronouciation is getting better (unlike my spelling).

Sybil I've had that reaction to chocolate but I am pleased to tell you that with patience and a bit of effort, I was able to start eating it again. I only get headaches if I've been on a real chocolate bender, so if you're the same...oink!

Can't believe T will be 2 tomorrow. Alex and Luke are the other fathers day babies aren't they? Anyone else? I thought there were 4 of us. Getting all mushy...

Oh, I kept forgetting to post - Eddie T has a running bike and she likes it but won't actually sit on it. She likes to push it along the road.

I hate coffee too. 'Tis disgusting. I can't even eat coffee tasting chocolates. Am already by coffee makers.

I don't think something that requires ordering pods from t'internet would suit DH - he's just not that organised. Something that you can buy nice coffee from nice shops to put in? I foolishly did a search on coffee threads earlier and even more . There was something about some coffee makers that you just put the beans in?!?!

I have only written about 250 words out of my 2,500 word assignment due in tomorrow.

About to go to bed, but wanted to say thank-you for all your kind pep talks today. It's what I needed and saved DH getting some kind of hormonal phone call in the middle of a stressful day at work.

I hope the fathers day babies have a lovely time tomorrow.

Deb - hope there isn't any more vomit tonight.

Night all.

Can I also thank everyone for pep talks too? I'm feeling much more reassured, and bizarrely thinking hell, I'll go for it. Also helped by talking to my potential RA (research assistant) today, who I'm close with; I knew him from conferences etc, but then he got to know me really well because his wife and I were in opposite beds in the postnatal ward. I've basically blackmailed him into trying for this job - he could manage it if I were, say, absent for a while...His wife had their second last month - at 10lb 7.

Sybil weird people - and very selfish, do they think there's nobody else in the world but them?

Deb I hope you stay clear tonight.

Don't know about coffee machines as I don't really like coffee, only latte and... I prefer instant coffee...

Off now to practice my Canadian accent. I'm totally baffled as to how you pronounce Osian.

But then I'd be on my own a year or two down the track Dewin

S woke up about 10pm and refused to settle. Eventually I put him in our bed and he went straight to sleep. Am seriously thinking of converting his cot bed soon - am I mad?

I inflated our new ready bed earlier in the week to check it was all in working order. S was really funny - he got straight inside and lay in it to watch tv for an hour. It was like getting a glimpse of his future teen self

Deb, your parcel of goodies sounds like just what you need! Hope your night isn't too bad.

Sybil, sorry about house moving traumas - the English system sucks.

For those of you that have had/plan to have bday parties (aimed more at toddlers rather than associated friends and relatives) did you have party games or did you just let the children play for an hour or so? And did you do party bags? Am wide awake so am mentally party planning while S snores away!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY T, L and A .

Can't believe they're two already . Unfortunately A is running a temperature and has had a bad night so think our plans to go into London might be cancelled . Gutted cos we've been looking forward to it for weeks. Will see what he's like when he gets up and reassess then.

Thanks for all your comments on the bikes - we're going to try one more time with the bike on Friday when we meet up with spider and if still no success we're going to put it away til we move.

Deb, sorry to hear about the poorly boys .

sybil, I can't believe your vendors ! How awful!

Amber, Alex has a thing about clocks but doesn't pronounce the 'l'!! Luckily he hasn't progressed onto pointing out the size of things yet .

AFAIK Little Kickers is a national franchise so would be worth checking out whether there is one near you. Dh is usually going to take A on his own but I went for the 2nd class just to see what it was like and was very impressed. A was clearly having a fab time!

AH, didn't know you were still considering a third? Now you've definitely set me off again! DG, let me know when you're planning your 2nd and I'll have another one . (Can just imagine putting that to dh - "oh please let me have another baby, DG is having another one so we can share the experience" ).

Oh and cute re: the ready bed DG!

My neighbour (she of the baby shower) had her baby just after midnight last night. Another 15 June arrival . She was 2 days overdue, had acupuncture mid afternoon yesterday. Her waters broke an hour later, went to hospital early evening, 15 minutes of pushing, and born at 12.02.

I am really thrilled for them, but I am feeling a tad envious of such a straightforward delivery compared to what I went through. Is that really awful of me?

I think I may be getting the number of the acupuncturist though. Has anyone ever tried acupuncture?

Sybil should have said yesterday how much it sucks about your vendors. What are they playing at?

Someone (Amber or Biscuits) asked about P's sleep yesterday too, and I didn't reply. He was doing 10 or 11 hours say 8 till 6/7, but it has now dropped down to 8 till 5 something. Daytime naps vary between 1 and 3 hours. If he consistently napped for x hours each day then it would be easier to cut it back. There is also no correlation between hours of daytime sleep and hours either the previous or following night. I could really do with him hanging onto the daytime sleeps until at least a few months after the new baby arrives.

my next door neighbour went in to be induced yesterday evening, so might be another 15 June one here too! She's had a stressful couple of weeks, last Fri she was told baby was breech so she needed a CS but they coldn't fit her in until Thurs (3 days post dates), spent the best part of a week preparing for a CS (which she didn't really want) went in on Thurs to be told baby had turned and was sent home again to go back yesterday to be induced! Waiting for a text to hear how she's got on!

Dewin wow, you've been doing a lot of thinking and soul searching this week, glad you are feeling reassured!

Sybil your housebuying saga is ridiculous, many sympathies.

DG coffee machines confuse me too!

spider I feel your pain with the lack of daytime sleeps at a crucial time, C is rather variable these days, although irritatingly always sleeps at nursery!

Oh, and happy birthday to the birthday trio.

Happy birthday t, a and l x x Luke broke the record for crap sleep by waking up for the day at 445 this morning so I sm going back to bed.

Rolf! am at that oink remark! Cheeky!

I wouldn't mind it I had pigged out but it was 4 squares on wed and 4 squares on thurs. That's barely a TASTE surely?

So Dewin does this mean that you have actually made a decision? and does your dh know whats going to hit him?

Hope all the birthday babes have a good day.

Happy birthday to the birthday boys! I was in labour on the 15th but he didn't arrive for a while. Iestyn is special, no birthday buddies!
My friend had a baby on Sunday too! (Just to add to the baby boom going on here!)
I'm currently packing my office ( I don't want to move - I love my sea views, plus I won't be able to deny being a member of law) so not getting much done.

Sybil yes, a decision has been reached. It was mainly your post so when I get pg with triplets I'll be paying you a visit. (Seriously, your comment was sensible - I'm not in the right job at the moment but passing the time waiting for the right job; so why not do it now, and then devote myself to the right job when/if it comes rather than take time out. If that makes sense.) The decision (although you're all probably slashing your wrists at my stupid and long-drawn-out non-saga) is to leave it until after the summer. Mainly so that I can be Very Special On the Thread (no, seriously, if I went for it now it would be a strange knee-jerk reaction and really not normal). I will then know where we're at with my RA, and if the timing works out I can skive out of teaching work around it with term time. June is a good time to have a baby in academic terms: Iestyn is an entire academic year. Conceived the week before freshers week, and born on the exam board. It's exam board tomorrow.

Back to the boxes.

Happy birthday to to the birthday babies toddlers!

Very quick post for Abdn - do you have any opinions good or bad on this helmet apart from it being ridiculously ££££? DH and I are at war over which helmet to get S (based on the most important factor - the design )

Happy Birthday to T, A and L

Only 1 more lot of vomit last night thank goodness, then ds2 spent the night in with us, Ethan woke up early and so I'm tired and grumpy today(with a sore throat)

Dewin - glad that we've helped to make your mind up, are you going to leap on your dh in the summer saying that the June 08 group have had a say in the decision?

Spider - that does sound like a very easy 1st labour, if she's back in her jeans within a week I don't think you should talk to her ever again

Sybil you weren't eating enough chocolate .

T started her birthday bright and early, too. She woke up at 4am and I went in to her as I didn't want her to wake up DD1. I stupidly wished her a happy birthday so it's my own fault that for the next hour we sang Happy Birthday and chatted about birthdays. I sympathise with the pregnant mothers of bad sleepers - I'm finding it exhausting and am not even pregnant. She's just gone to sleep now.

We got T the Happyland house for her birthday, and she loves it . We had a family breakfast and she opened her present, and she and DD1 had a lovely time with it before school.

Dewin hope the room move goes well. I'm also intrigued to know whether your DH knows of your decision? My DH said at the weekend that T turning 2 has made him broody, but we agreed that that isn't a good reason for having another . We keep going through all the reasons why we shouldn't have any more (there are lots!) but then feel a bit sad at the end of the discussion. There are a couple of people locally who, if they announced a pregnancy, I would really struggle with. Mainly people with 4 children already - that's being very silly and competitive isn't it?

Ktpie - just managed to stop myself from posting on FB something about J's balance bike finally turning up. Realised that the person you got it from might be a FB friend of yours. Durr... Lovely photos though.

Rolf - I can understand what you mean about another baby and other people having a fifth making you feel a bit weird. I always grew up wanting a big family, but the reality of one DC is for me quite over whelming. I think I will be stopping at 2. But I reserve my right to change my mind . AH I am quite excited that you are still contemplating another baby, I had thought you had definitely ruled it out.

DGT - I have ordered a Met helmet for P following AH's suggestion, but had to get the second from smallest size as P has such a massive head. I know nothing about cycling though, so no idea if I have done right or not.