June 08 - if your name's not down you're not coming in!

[EddieIzzardismyhero]

Welcome to our new cliquey thread !

x-posted with sybil and deb! Their speech sounds the same as a lot of the 2 year old boys I know btw.

Ah, but Eddie, whether a name is awful is subjective so tbh I wouldn't really care if someone else thought it was awful . My mother laughed out loud when DB (way before his wife got pg) said what his favourite girls name was. That's the name my DN now has and my DB will always know my mother hated it!

Lol! I've heard stories like that before - my next door neighbour's son is called Oscar and when she phoned her mum and told her, she laughed and said "you're joking aren't you?!"

And here endeth the lesson

Fuckety fuck. P slept for about another 20 mins then woke and screamed for 40 mins. I am so pissed off. He is now being super cute and making animal noises to a TV programme.

I feel like such a shit mother.

Thanks Sybil, the problems ds2 has have been to do with his neck muscles(from a v quick birth)and at the moment we're also working on tongue exercises to try to get the english "r" sound, he can roll a german R fine! He has to put something like a wooden lolly stick in the side of his mouth and just using his tongue and mouth , no hands get it across to the other side of his mouth, we've also had balancing bits of crisps, savoury sticks on the end of his tongue, sucking through very,very thin straws, will try and remember some more.

I know with my background as a teacher that boys are often slower than girls at speech development, apart from Luke obviously, and I know that there are no other major developmental delays so I shouldn't worry but you do don't you.

lol Spider, takes a lot to get language like that from you!!Don't feel like a shit mother, even though P's not sleeping he might still be tired and need that quiet time in front of the tv, without you over stimulating him.So put your feet up and enjoy. Feel any better yet?

DG, this was AFTER he was born!!

spider, don't be so hard on yourself : (

Spider you're tired, right...? You're doing extremely well - it's really tough being at home all day with a child who doesn't sleep much.

Sponge thanks for the useful comments - and interesting that you feel that way (about catching the bus too early). I'm coming to a decision here, I think...

Deb not a language expert (well, not in the developmental sense - I'm one of the best around on medieval Welsh ) but I do know a lot about bilingualism, due to being tested loads for big studies, and having a bilingual child. (Who doesn't speak English. ) Bilingual children are often later speaking, and that may be the case with Ethan because right now he's going down the bilingual route (if you move back to the UK, that process will probably stop unless you expose him to lots of German children; although his brothers are bilingual). Iestyn speaks a lot but that's surprising - I wouldn't be bothered if he wasn't yet, IYKWIM. But what Iestyn has done is separated out the two languages; he hears English just doesn't listen, when DH and I talk (in English) together, he doesn't copy words etc, but he does in Welsh. That's just his way; Ethan has probably worked out that there are two languages going on, but isn't giving it a go. That's not particularly bad - it might be that he just can't be bothered! Or that he's taking it all in and will start managing two at the same time, which Iestyn isn't doing. Horses for courses.
This is also true of monoglots - some will listen and get the language in their heads IYKWIM before speaking, whereas others will try it out.

No matter the commandments, there are people who just don't think Eddie

Spider, sorry you're having a hard day. If it helps, I often have days when I think I'm a shit mother. I'm not though, and neither are you.

Deb - sorry you're feeling a bit concerned about Ethan's speech. We've noticed a massive difference is S's speech over the last few weeks but up till then he was way behind his peers.

I'm actually quite amazed at the mo. (And apologies for feeling proud when others are feeling low). We've been making a card for DH (who is much better at studying than me and has passed his Masters in 6-9 months). We then moved onto play-doh and S was pointing at the box (that has all our crafty stuff in) and started asking for specific colours e.g. lellow (yellow), geen (green) etc.

Thanks guys. You are all right of course. But your posts have made me cry . In my defence I just spent 10 mins chopping onions, (that's what I am blaming anyway).

And I'm not going to be watching Luke's video as that will probably make me cry too. I am pretty confident that P is the worst talker on the thread: Deb - Ethan certainly sounds more advanced than P. Thinking about it E probably hears more English in your home with 5 of you around lots of the time than P does with just the two of us, and James only here before 7.30 and in the evening.

Spider Tiredness makes you feel crap at everything. I am knackered, and I think I've been getting better nights than you, so no wonder you feel rubbish. Child development is so varied, all of our little ones sound like they are making sounds in the right direction, and just as there were months and months of variation in walking/crawling, there will be differences in talking. C was definitely the worst walker!
I've never met you, but you come across as a great Mum. Give yourself a break! (and some chocolate. Cholcolate helps everything!)

deb what Dewin says sounds very relevant to you, I'm sure Ethan's processing what's going on and deciding which language to major in, IYKWIM?

sybil I thought your post was excellent!

DGIT how cute with the card. Looking forward to seeing S again soon!

sure there were other things I was going to say, but on re-reading this, I appear to have decided to mark other people's posts like dewin was doing yesterday, I don't have an excuse, I'm just bossy!

Thanks for all the comments on Luke's talking! I put a lot of it down to nursery where they are constantly talking (and yes I am going to say it - TV!!!). All the kiddies in Luke's class seem to be at the same level and are all roughly the same ages. I am also pretty sure though that unless there is a specific problem, they all sound the same when they get to about 3 years old.

Eddie - little kickers sounds lovely! I wonder if there is one round here but I doubt it. Mark would be the happiest man alive if Luke was going to something like that!! We are not 'doing' anything for luke's birthday tomorrow but I have got him a lovely cake. Luke still doesn't know what a birthday is. I took Luke to the Aquarium on my own and it was fine as all corridors! He loved it - especially the sharks and the turtle.

Biscuits - shame we'll never probably get Luke and C to meet as he is actually saying the same contradicting stuff, no mummy not your paper, my paper!

Spider - you're not a shit mother! How is P sleeping in the night now? Luke was up at 5.10 this morning. We are shortening his nap again this week to 1 hour max to see if it makes a difference and then binning it next week if no improvement.

Domestic - cute colours - I love lellow!!!

Thanks to those who posted on my sleep thread BTW. Neenz - you are very very lucky your two seem happy to play alone. Luke would never dream of it although when he is about 5 minutes away from nodding off he does start singing!

Amber, that's a shame that Luke won't go to bed and play/read. It is a long hard day when you don't get that nap break (sympathies Spider). It helps that the DTs have each other, not sure if they would be so happy if they were on their own. I tried to open your link but it keeps saying cannot display the webpage (my wifi has been playing up recently). Will try again later!

Thanks for your post Sybil, it gave me lots to think about. Atm I am not really worried - we might not even have a boy, SIL might not have a boy, or we might decide on another name anyway. If her babies come first and it is Dan then Dan might not be so appealing anymore. I don't think I would mind other people calling him big/little Dan - that is up to them, he would just be Dan to us and SIL's Dan would be '[SIL's name]'s Dan'. Which is fine with me. If she called her DS Theo I think it would be odd, but if she had told me 3mths before the DTs were born (and before I chose Theo) that she liked the name and was going to use it then I couldn't really be annoyed if she did. But it is all theory atm! I am not going to mention it unless she does - no point having a discussion/fall-out over something theoretical. We quite liked Ben as well so maybe we will go with that (that's probably her other boys' name!)

Penguin, I would love to have a scan to find out what we are having! But I promised DH he could choose this time and he chose not to find out [grr].

ktpie, forgot to say how impressed I am at the woodwork!

Aw Amber that vid is very cute! It didn't look like he didn't like it did it!

Spider, you are not a bad mother! You are just having a bad day.

The other day I had asked ds1 about 4 billion times to get his cubs kit and he was just pratting around. In the end I screamed 'will you please get your cubs kit^' at him It worked though, once he had picked his jaw up off the floor. We all have bad days - you need to be a bit kinder to yourself my lovey.

Also, on the subject on chocolate, I think it is giving me headaches I have noticed a definite link between chocolate eating and my headaches and now I have to live with no chocolate I may have to start a fudge habit or something.

Deb we wouldn't be good parents if we didn't do unnecessary worrying. Its the flipside of wanting/doing the best for your kids

Neenz I was a bit worried I was a bit brusque in that post so glad you were ok with it. I think Ben is a great name!

Complete subject change - those of you with really swanky coffee machines (am sure I've heard at least purée on here or on fb extollng it's virtues) which one do you have. And are there any swanky coffee machines that are worth it if you just like good old fashioned black coffee? I don't drink cffee and know nothing about it, but am contemplating ideas for DH's 40th.

God I am hacked off.

Dh has just texted our vendors to find out if they know what is happening with our house move. They still haven't done their f**king survey. FGS, we made an offer on their house at the beginning of MARCH and we are now in mid-June and they still haven't got a bloody survey.

It will be a bloody miracle if we ever move.

Domestic Domestic Domestic -- my Nespresso Citiz!!!!! I love it so much I would battle for custody in a divorce! Puree has the same one and feels the same. My decorator is buying one on the strength of my lovely coffee I served him (he has black coffee too). It's £199 but the best thing is that it doesn't need cleaning as it takes little capsules of coffee which you buy online from Nespresso.

I also forgot to say ktpie I am mega impressed with your woodwork - wow!!

eddie put the bike away for a few days and then bring it out (with the seat lowered all the way)? Also, keep your hands on him for a bit so he knows he's not going to fall?

dewin if you get pregnant next year we'll all get to live vicariously through you - I've enjoyed the neighbour's pregnancy, lots of chat and no horrible symptoms for me.

And some of us are putting the decision for a third off (ie me) and that bothers me because I wanted an age gap that saw me concieving between now and mid Oct and it feels like I'm not having a third by default... but then there's a good opportunity for me work-wise right now and if it works out then it's too good to pass up (interesting career and good money...). So how do I balance career happiness vs more kids?? Because I'm thinking that I actually would be happier with my two and a career than three and no career... And I'm your age (11 months younger hardly counts...)

But my version of trusting God is a bit different than neenz! I could never just go off the pill and leave it to chance...

Also - Friends named their boy Osian and it's impossible to say correctly with a Canadian accent. I actually am now annoyed and refuse to say his name because they kept correcting me. He is now called 'him'.

spider TV is very useful sometimes - especially for down time when it's needed.

DGT we've a proper gaggia (not the baby but the classic one and it's wonderful. We've had it for almost 6 years with no problems.

No!!!! don't get one that needs capsules!! Just tamp your shots yourself!!! It's almost zero extra work... (disclaimer - when we moved here I gave DH a £500 budget for a stereo, TV, and coffee machine. He spend £350 on a coffee machine and grinder, bought a cheap stereo, and then lived without a TV for two years. We take our coffee seriously).

Sybil - what a bugger about your house sale, I feel your pain!

Forgot to say that I now have 2 poorly big boys - thankfully not dh yet, ds2 off school today, ds1 will be tomorrow, ds2 should be going back but he's just been sick in his bed - yuck.Ethan thought it was all hilarious, and stood up in his cot watching all the commotion chuckling.

Also received a parcel from my lovely Mum today with Ethan's presents plus goodies for all the rest of us - magazines, comics, sweets, and books.

Deb your poor boys, and poor you. I know there's been too much vomit in the house when I catch myself mentally running through the Vomit Protocol (comfort child, strip off child and stick in shower, open window, gloves on, deep breath, scoop up clumps etc etc). How is your house move btw?

Sybil how rubbish about the non-survey. That's seriously unimpressive. I was v interested in your post about speech therapy. DD1 has a lisp and in addition another sort of lisp, I think it's called a sloppy s? In some words she'll substitute "th" for "s" but with other words it's almost as though she's blowing a rasberry. I've been waiting for her to outgrow it, but no sign yet.

Spider you're tired and pregnant, and I think you sound like a lovely mother .

Abdn DH and I really want to get a gaggia coffee machine, so are very of yours, and also v impressed at your priorities.

Amber love the video, and isn't Luke's speech great? T is nowhere near that clear. Her favourite phrase atm is "no, mine"! She certainly doesn't have a lovely clear "yes" like Luke. More like "yuh"!