Sept 08: How do we like our eggs in the morning? Fertilised, or completely and most definitely unfertilised?

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I am GREEN with envy! Why are none of the shows anywhere near me?! Oooh you have to tell us everything! Only 4 months til strictly starts again

Of course Dastardly, I've got my outfit already planned

Don't worry, I will give you all full details. Who had the best outfits. Who looks a minger close up etc etc

LOL ILTMIM that woman is waxed!

Wow, that woman is actually naked...

After much soul searching, have decided to take T out of childcare. I realised that a huge part of the reason was not wanting to let down my CM, as she is so lovely, which is a silly reason for spending money on something we don't need and don't especially want. Now i just have to tell her

T is doing 'row row' in his cot. Possibly I should go and get him up instead of pretending he's still asleep.

Oh I hope all went ok for FP so exciting!

Hopefully go with your instincts and it'll be OK (on a note about pre school though, when does T get a place? Here (Wales), we get funding for 5 1/2 days a week when C is 3 but we don't actually get a place until the Sept after she is 3. As she was born on 17 Sept, that means she'll be 4 when she starts pre-school. Is England the same?)

And guys I need a boost. C has just started in the older toddlers room at nursery. She was fine last week but this week it seems reality is sinking in and she has screamed and clung to me at drop off both yesterday and today. I've done the "love you, see you later, bright smile" then collapse outside thing but I feel just awful.
They asked me if a wanted to stay a bit to see if she settles but I didn't as I didn't want to prolong it for her but now I feel so so guilty. Should I have stayed (I never have before so will it confuse her?) and please reassure me this will not cause her issues in the future. Am I a cruel person to put her in nursery.

Mrs From what I remember you get the place for the term they are 3 or the term after so she would go Sept 2011 or January 2012. It can depend tho on if the school takes intakes each term or just inseptember
If you get the funding when she is 3 is the lack of a place because the nursery you want is full or just the way it is done in wales.

Don't worry about C, I'm sure it is just the change in scenery which is upsetting her. Maybe she has changed keyworkers or is missing the old toys and friends.
Someone who uses Nurseries feel free to jump in.
Or she could be just a bit clingy, I can hardly move away from Robyn at the moment

hopefully what on earth were you doing on mn at 6.56am?!? T will be fine, hope the cm is ok about it.

MAR I wouldn't have stayed- esp if I never had- as in my experience they have been fine as soon as I've left anyway. I suspect she'll resettle soon and make sone new friends. My ds2 has just started at a new childminder and has been crying when dropped off (in fact dh said he started crying before he'd even parked the car last week!) but is soon distracted. Did you mention on fb that 1 of her friends should join her soon? You are not cruel, she will be fine.

Usually pre-schools here will take them at 2yrs 9months but you have to pay until the term after they turn 3. Some take them anytime and some only at Sept, Jan and Easter.
So the Sept babies should get funding from January 2012 for 15 hours a week (I'm hoping that as ds2 is 1st Sept that he'll get it from the Sept) Seems odd that in Wales you don't even get a place until the year after they are 3. I'm go to the pre-schl committee meetings and it sounds like they rely on the under 3s to get some money in! I plan to send ds2 from next June but only for a couple of sessions a week as I'll have to pay and it'll have to be at least when I'm not at work.

Mind you that'll go out the window if DC scraps child benefit, tax credits etc plus taxes us more, puts interest rates up etc. If all tht happens we'll be living in a tent somewhere cheap.

MrsArch - they all seem to do that for a week or few at random, at different ages. They mainly are easily distracted as soon as their parent is out the door - not that this made it any better when A did it for a few weeks...

One thing I like about A's nursery is they mix and match the kids quite a bit (also means more staff can head off early/have breaks), so A is very used to toddler room already - hopefully he'll be happy to move up over the summer. He can still have naps in baby room too.

debi I wouldn't hold out too much hope of your ds2 getting a free place sept next year. My dd is 3rd April birthday and we have to wait until this september before her funded place. If she'd been born 3 days earlier she would have been in nursery since Easter, a full 6 months earlier. Similarly there are places here that will take younger kids but you have to pay, so she's not starting til its fully funded. Most nursery classes that are attached to a school do an intake every term. Also beware if you're using a private nursery coz although 15 hours a week will be funded, it's only for 38 weeks a year (term time) but they'll expect you to pay for the other 14 weeks.

DD talks about starting nursery all the time, but her only concept of what it actually is is from the mr tumble school episode

Just had a look on the June Ante-natal thread to see if anything on there but nothing.

bookmarking as waiting in suspense...

I hope FP has got her private room.

6 hours I've been patient for and still no news! Hopefully Family Fanny (that so doesn't sound right!) are all snuggled up in their private room where DD is adoringly stroking her little sibling on the head while said sibling contentedly breastfeeds

I have some slightly nice news, although it was just a test to confirm my suspicions - DS is definately fine with eating hazelnuts (well, Nutella). I'd kept him off them since his weird allergic reaction to pine nuts & kiwi in March but felt up to testing hazelnuts today, albeit armed with 2 epi-pens just in case. And he had strawberries too and nothing happened .

I'm watching BB at the moment .

Dads death will be in the local paper tomorrow. I think I'm going to be crying over my morning cuppa. I keep catching myself thinking I must ask him about something in the garden / car / house and remember that I can't .

lolly yes, Dad was up at the hospice. They are wonderful. Home made cakes in the day room every day for patients and visitors, Sky sports, no set visiting hours (we could come and go as we pleased). Dad said he had effectively pre-paid for his place as he used to do the charity Big Wheel ride every year . The nurses are very sympathetic too and give out hugs when needed. Except one, who my sister & stepmum nick-named 'The Bouncer'! And even she wasn't too bad. I keep taking stuff to their charity shops as 80% of their money comes from fund raising.

meglet big hugs to you. I'm the same with the hospice charity shops since they looked after two of my friends last year.

Funnily enough I tried to test my kids on peanuts today (well, peanut butter) but one small lick and both of them rejected it so no conclusive test possible at this stage!

Hope tomorrow isn't too horrendous Meglet, it's the normal stuff that is harder, IME, than the funeral. take care.

And thanks for comments re my post today. I'm having major guilt trips over working but from my reaction to anything sad re children (Sarah Payne, fox attacks twins etc etc) I think it's more an overwhelming urge to protect C from anything bad, which in reality i simply cannot as life sometimes happens. I think it also stems from issues I have over my childhood and I am an adult who is always terrified of anything happening to loved ones...hmm I may need some therapy.

C was fine when I picked her up. She had a good day and was only upset for a bit - as you all said, it's just a period of adjustment and they are lovely at nursery. Interestingly just before I picked her up she had apparently scratched another child for no reason (it's her 'thing' atm). I walked into the room to collect her, unaware of this, and when I walked in she normally runs to me but I could not see her for several seconds. i asked where she was and her key worker said 'behind you'. Little monkey knew she'd done wrong so was hiding from me. Glad she knows it's wrong!

And debi yes, her good friend Dylan is due to move up in July. Most people mistake them for twins as they have their own language and have just clicked (I know his mum well too), so think she's missing him lots.

Debs I think the pre-school place is a welsh thing. They like to start them as late as possible at school as in wales we follow learning through play till they are 6 or 7 and there are no SATS. So my understanding is she will have a place at her local primary school nursery but not until the September after she is 3 and if your birthday is in September, that means the next september. But we do get the ££ from her 3rd birthday, so if she stays at her current private nursery 3 days a week then, we'd only pay for 1/2 a day a wk in term time as she'd get 2.5 days funding. We can actually keep her at nursery untill she's 5 but I'm not sure. that's a bit of a way off yet.

Gosh, sorry for long post - got carried away!

Debi I usually have to squeeze in my computer time before T wakes. Need my fix for the day!

Now I need to actually tell my CM I'm abandoning her . Excited for the future though, must concentrate on that.

Mrs the Welsh way of schooling sounds good, no pressure, no dreaded SATS and lots of fun. Here mums seem to not be able to wait to get the LO's into nursery schoool

Yay, had a great drop off today. Bumped into a couple of the baby room ladies and they were asking how it was going and reassuring me - they said they popped down to see C in their break times and she was very happy
When I handed her over, she didn't look 100% happy but she didn't cry or fuss and I gave her a huge smile, said I love you and left.
Phew, feeling better.

And yes, Debs, I really like the welsh schooling - all down to the welsh assembly. I'm English myself, only lived here 6 years and in reality I can be in Chester in 20mins at the weekend, so I get the best of both words. My only complaint is that at secondary school, learning welsh is compulsory. I disagree as even in Wales, English is the first language and I'd rather C learnt a useful language like Spanish or Mandarin. Having said that, if she wants to learn it, I'll support her all the way but that's the key - I think she should choose and not be forced. In secondary school, I think she's old enough to decide.

I've just got back from town where I bought DD her first hair clips . She actually kept them in, I am thrilled. I am so shallow .

Mrsarch Pleased to hear this morning went smoothly. DD gets a little clingy sometimes but nursery have got her sussed now and quickly distract her once I've said goodbye.

MrsA There is a whole AIBU thread where they are discussing a welsh child learning welsh. I think it would be nice, it is a language you hear many natives being upset that they can't speak it. If you live in an area with many welsh speakers you may find she picks it up. DD1 is currently learning Chinese and she loves it. She tried French in year 7 but just didn't get it

Meglet I have a whole drawer full of hair clips for DD, including Halloween, Christmas and Easter ones. She won't keep them in!

MrsA I was the first year of children to do compulsory Welsh at secondary school (but only up to year 9, thankfully, so didn't waste a GCSE on it), and I feel exactly the same as you - if we're able to drop french, we should be able to drop welsh.

Right, have given the childminder notice. It was such a massive decision, but I know it's the right choice, and CM has been lovely about it, which makes it better. Thanks so much to everyone who offered their opinions! Of course, now I'm actually going to have to go to toddler groups and things so DS gets to see other children. Eek.

Debs I'm not going anywhere near the AIBU board - they bloody scare me!!

Great to hear your DD1 is learning Chinese - that's fab but I bet it wasn't forced on her? Did she decide?
And that's the thing - whether there are lots of welsh speakers around or not (and there aren't here - I live in the first town across the border and it's maihnly full of scousers cos house prices are much less than Chester), i strongly believe she should learn a second language of her choice, given that English is her first language. She is actually English, cos I chose to have her at the Countess of Chester and I have to admit its location was a factor in my decision

If she chooses welsh, great, but if she hates it I think the lesson time could be better spent on another language she enjoys or just general studying etc. Hmm - do I feel strongly enough to challenge this we'll see, it's a way off yet but I can be very ballsy when I want to be and am determined to become a parent governor anyway

[MrsA raises her banner high and marches out]

Hurrah for making the decision Hopefully. Are you still planning a wedding for this year?

DH and I have sort of come up with a plan about ttc. I lose as much weight as possible over the next two months, then we start ttc. It's nice to have made a decision at last though, as I've been dodging making a decision for months.

The thing is I am sitting here right now with ovulation pain and I'm thinking 'to hell with it, let's start trying straight away.'

I haven't even started ttc and it's already taking over a lot of my thought

LOL mrsarch.

D&S DD realised her hairclip was in at approx 4pm and kept pulling it out and then came wailing to me saying "cliiiiiiiipp" so I could put it back in for her . She needs her first little hair cut soon, I'm going to snip her fringe and let the rest of it grow into a bob.