Dec 08 Mums - Terrible twos already? Tears, tantrums, tiaras and tractors - and the rest!

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Hope this is better - sorry all!

beans great news about the house. Do your buyers have any chain beneath them? Be strict with both the agent and your solicitor about getting everything tied up quickly (some let it drag unless nagged at my the client!). Good advice to offer less as you say. Good luck!

invis loved the story about the synagogue!

ladyT what a lovely story about O being such a good girl!! I felt rather like that today as L (still unable to walk..) threw herself around a trampoline today with total bouncing joy and abandon despite being jumped beside by 4 hulking 6 year olds - she is an adrenaline junkie!

aubi hope Dublin is lovely and that you get to visit my bro-in-law's gastropub.

rubes you are funny about worrying about your weight. Salad when you are pg should be outlawed unless it comes with something naughty!

spot I am still giggling at the thought of your mad night out. I am rather lacking in control once given any type of freedom tis best if we are kept ona leash, clearly...

veg hope the week goes Ok and you get lots of nice weather to enjoy with the boys.

effie how are M and his spots?

Must do some work. Easter holidays are very distracting I think

Veggie - I don't think you read my post properly I have put on a STONE already - so no problems there with the BF! I will BF as it's great for burning calories so good for the baby, but last time - although I wasn't tired, my flow wasn't fast enough and it upset the little Bean so I didn't last past 5 months - and it was nothing to do with fat stores as I had plenty!! Now, before anyone raises a few eyebrows about my BF for weight loss comment - I promise I would still BF if it made you put on weight - truly.
Beans I've just done a conversion - I have actually put on 8kg so far which is 1.2 stone or 17.5lbs
10kg is about 22lbs - so you're doing good and I hope to be the same as you at 30 weeks - fingers crossed and salads a plenty
Congrats on the house offer! Oh and I'm feeling very unwanted at any such Meetups planned - no-body is answering me!!! [sulks]

Just back from the shops - preggo's there are some lovely newborn baby things in organic cotton at H&M kids and I bought ds some new PJ's - couldn't decide on the pattern so I showed him both and he promptly chucked one on the ground decision made!

Ladies not only did I put on just under 20 kg in both pregnancy I actually lost weight in the last trimester of both so all of that was in the first & second trimesters!!! Get big tatties into yer! Also now that Im in the twilight of my BF years and no more pregnancies pencilled in Im now never gonna be able to eat like i did when preggers ever again. So basically I'm saying enjoy it while you can! Of course eat the right nutritional and balanced food though (good health professionals hat on there).

Hi Turnip, I want to go to Dublin to your BILs pub now. I don't suppose he has one in Belfast too, I'm going there in June for a wedding.

Hello everyone,

spot I found your book on amazon searching under your old name like clever SL suggested. I like the cover and agree with what some of the others said about white being too clinical.

Has PD been on to let us know how her colonoscopy went? Fingers crossed all is peachy.

Great house news beans. Veggie is right about a long term rental being better than 50 a week more. They should snap your hand off.

ladyT O sounds like a star! She is very adaptable which is a wonderful quaility in a baby/toddler. Perhaps as a comprimise you could do the painting whilst MIL looks after DD or vice versa. That way you wouldn't be under each others feet.

I do hope MOM is OK. If she did get a BFP, does she have history of hyperemesis can anyone remember? I hope she is OK and just busy with life.

Rubes Lots of people put on weight early on and hardly any later in pregnancy. Step away from the scales!

DD's walking has really taken off and she keeps refusing to hold my hand, sitting down and screaming if I insist. She is too determined for her own good! We're got her a littlelife rucksack with reins attached so I hope she takes to that.

Jolly top tip on Spot's book. I was off the thread when it was published and only really caught up - so have never seen it. Well done spot!!! Are sales going well? Jolly can your DD have a wrod with mine on the joys of walking. She needs to get up off her bottom!

Veggie no pub in Belfast, but it is my home town so remind me nearer the time where to send you for nice food. Are you a fishy veggie or a "proper" one?

I do home Mom and PD are OK too

Turnip I think we are just one night in Belfast at the old HOliday inn then we are staying where the wedding is which I think is north of Belfast, I thinks it's called Calloden hall or something like that. It's a spa place and tres expensive so we are taking full advantage of our time there so may only spend the one night hangin out in Belfast.

Don't worry Turnip, my own little ladyship isn't walking anywhere and is light years from doing so, so far as I can see. She has no interest in pulling herself up or any of that malarkey, which I am guessing is the precursor to walking. But I don't mind, and she doesn't seem to After all my boasts about how miraculous she was yesterday, she has been grumpy and grotty today, but I can't knock her as it's probably tiredness from yesterday or something.

That little rucksack with reins sounds cute, JB. I will keep it in mind for when the time comes. DP bought DD a handbag for Christmas, which always makes me giggle. It seems a ridiculously decadent gift for a one year old but he meant it so earnestly - it's a little leather bag in the shape of a panda.

Rubes, of course people want you at meet ups!

I have to go to London tomorrow and won't come back until Friday (which happens to be my birthday) - however, I have to fit some work in round the various social engagements. It's a couple of weeks since I have been and I always fret about post building up (people in the building have reported post being nicked )

Oh, and I just asked DP if we are telling MIL I am up the duff when she comes on Sunday. He said we aren't and wants to leave it a bit longer. Well, I still don't really want to tell my family until my novel is sold but if it hasn't in the next 3-4 weeks I will tell them anyway.

Hello everyone!
I haven't been on for ages but have been lurking....shall see what I can remember that I wanted to comment on.
Effie how is DS2 and his spots? My DS is better now but he still has a few spots, mostly on his head.
Rubes we only have a fold-flat pushchair, we used a sling mostly and occasionally a very old free second hand pushchair for the first 6 months. I love it, and am expecting to use it a lot in combination with a sling for no 2 once he/she comes along. As you know I have a 2nd hand Phil and Teds too, I have figured that I will be able to sell it for not that much less than I bought it if I don't use it so much. Our pushchair is a maclaren XT though so was pricey.
Oh and I think 1.whatever stone is fine by your stage, especially for a waif like you. After not putting on too much in the first trimester I am now getting a bit porky. I haven't weighed myself for ages though. Sure it is a stone or more though. I think I should probably watch what I eat a bit, as I am no longer ravenous, so I don't really have an excuse to pig out (basically if I'm STARVING I take it that means I really should eat and not deny myself as it's my body telling me to, just difficult not to think, OOOH a biscuit, well I'm not really that hungry but Oh I AM pregnant!) I hope to put on about 2-2.5 stone by the end (well less would be nice but no chance). Was 3 stone last time, too much!! thanks for tip on H&M as well, friend just had a baby so may go and look tomorrow! Too stingy to buy for my bump at the moment (also don't know what colour)

invis I also liked the synagogue/cinema tale!! I would like my religion to be going to the cinema every Sunday (no insult to churches and synagogues)

beans hooray on the house!! Have you any news on putting in the rental offer yet or haven't you done it yet? It looks like we are set to sell soon as well! We currently have an offer of 2.5K under asking and 3 people still interested (all made offers, been bid up to current level), so agent going back to them to see if they want to offer higher. Also had a missed call from agent this evening just before they shut so hoping it may be an asking price offer! And we may have found a house we like. YIKES. All very scary as I don't know when we will manage to move considering arrival of number 2. Anyway I am being very rude waffling on about me. HOORAY FOR YOUR HOUSE!! And YUK but I really did LOL at your spunky sheet experience. I love the way you like to share everything with us!

Oh going back a bit, spot on the eating thing, I almost always give DS lots of little things for dinner anyway unless he decides that he is going to hoover up epic amounts of a main course (rare occurrence). I also make sure that I don't give in and feed him a jar of something if he refuses homemade savoury just because I don't want him to think that he will get his favourite things if he makes enough fuss. Having said that he seems to be going off those horrid jars a bit!! HOORAY!! and he can now sort of say yoghurt (gog-gog) and banana (nana), I KNEW yoghurt would be one of his first words. (He is a late talker but starting with a few words that are recognizable to only proud mummies who are listening for them)

veggie boo to no budapest, but it could have been a bit stressful I guess!! Oh I had a question, on your new bikey jobbie with front and back seats, how do you carry stuff? Do you use a rucksack and if so does it get in the way of the one on the back?

Right I woke at 3am this morning (well was woken by Mr Trouble) and didn't go back to sleep so I should go to sleep now to try and be human at work tomorrow.

Oooh Veg that's the Culloden you are staying at and it is tres posh. Will be a great wedding!

x-posts with LadyT, waves!
We have rucksack with reins too JB. Very cute!
Hurrah for birthday on Friday Lady!! Maybe a cheeky glass of cheerfulness.
And hurrah for the weight non-gain.

I love it that one of your DS's first words was 'yoghurt', Summer! Won't he be baffled when he asks you in years to come what it was. Well, that is smashing about your house, both the offer and you having found one you like. Oh, and in H&M they have some newborn things which aren't gender specific - I bought a gorgeous set the other week before I knew.

LadyT you don't know yet!!! Still a 30% chance of a willy!

Oh, come on, of course I do! They only say that so you don't sue 'em. Only another month until the 20 wk scan though - reckon that will be more conclusive either way...Oh, the birthday on Fri will be rather low profile. I am having lunch with DD's godfather then coming back to go out for a meal with DP in the evening. I am, to be frank, a little dismayed at turning........er................................................................................... ...................38

Late talker SL gosh my little man is very late then. So far we have what we think is Bye bye because it's a noise that is kind of similar ey-ey and it always accompanies a wave and someone leaving or him going to the bedroom for a nap. He also shakes his head and occasionally says 'o' when I ask him anything and he says 'ow' and nods his head when DH asks him anything, the 'ow' we think is 'yao' which is one of many ways of saying yes in mandarin, but the one DH has been using mostly, as it means yes' I want, and usually involves him wanting food. He also says Dadda but still no mama. In other news though he has started using DS1's old scooter in the living room which is quite cute. Unfortunately he also tried out his skateboard which didn't end so well.

SL is Barcalona I didn't go to, Budapest is next week.

I have a couple of pannier bags, or my normal bag goes across my body sort bike courier style and doesn't affect DS1 too much although he does play the drums on it which gets a bit annoying. I would add though that when I had the 2 seats on my normal mountain bike the stability was tricky this longer bike is much more stable and has a lock for the handle bars so they don't turn when the bike is stopped, and on it's stand. Not that I would be far away from it with DS2 on his seat.

As DH is away the boys & I are having a sleep over all in the one bed. Unfortunately I didn't get DS1 up in time for his wee and he saturated the bed. I've changed it now, despite very vocal protests from DS2, and I'm lying in bed between them. I talk in my sleep and so does DS1, but I've just discovered that so does DS2! Which is quite amusing considering his limited vocab. Not sure what he was saying but I think he was telling someone off.

Right better go to bed, gotta get these boys up & out by 8 tomorrow.

Sorry that first paragraph was a bit waffled and way too long a sentence, should really have proof read.

Evening all, well we have still no recognisable words at all from dd (popper seems to have been a one-off), not bye bye or mummy or daddy or anything. Lots of mamamaMAMAMAAAAAHHH when she wants something, but no actual words guided at getting us to understand her. Never mind! We've been having lots and lots of pointing at absolutely everything so I spend my days saying "That's a cow, that's a tree, that's a plane" and one day she'll pick it up I guess...

great news Beans and SL about the houses! SL I did plug your house to a friend's cousin who wants to move to the M Rd area, but sounds as if you've got plenty of people keen already. Hurrah!

veggie that's so sweet about the sleep talking, I can just picture you and your boys having random night conversations

Hi, I do like the new title Beans ? although DD sits in the tractor camp rather than tiaras, she gets so excited when she sees one (but this could be because Grandad is normally driving it, and he?s her current favourite person)

Trace/Jolly ? I agree it?d be good to go on email to sort out details, no need to fill up this thread. I can?t wait to see you again!

Trace you are so brave to get your haircut short. I always want to get something drastic done but always bottle it and ask for a trim instead. I think it looks great!

Veggie I was having a nose at your photos on fb, especially the ones of your boys when DS2 was teeny tiny, they are so gorgeous and brought a lump to my throat [soppy]

Welcome back Rubena, I?m pleased the family saga turned out well, but sounds quite exhausting. You are very welcome on the York meet up, if you fancy the journey. And welcome back Beans, Paris sounds fabby

Hi Nolda and Indith , lovely to hear from you both again

Sybil how?s the thumb sucking going? It sounds really difficult, I?d be a wreck having to listen to DD getting so upset. Good luck, I think in the long run you will be the one to remember it rather than your DD

Interesting theory about walking v talking ? but what about those who don?t seem that inclined to do either? DD?s vocab consists entirely of ?dah? and has managed at most 4 steps.

Katie at watching the national and contracting at the same time! Were you tempted to name DS after the winner?!

LadyT what a treasure your DD is . On the occasions that DD makes me proud, I wish so much she could understand what I tell her as I want her to know what a star she is

A question for you ? does anyone ever get the feeling that their little ones have already got the measure of them? DD seems to be trampling right over my efforts to discipline her and its getting me down. It doesn?t help that DH indulges her every whim, and has admitted that he doesn?t think he?s ever said ?no? to her or think that he could tell her off. I?m not trying to dictate everything she does, I hasten to add, the extent of my efforts are just trying to keep her safe (ie not standing up in her high chair, poking things in her eye) and warm and well fed (and I?d like to stop bringing her into our bed). Am I the only who?s already turned into a doormat and is a slave to their little one?

Thanks Zoe, and yes, ds gets into this tunnel vision state and I know he can hear when I'm saying 'no' as he gets a smirk on his face but continues to do whatever he's doing. He's big into food throwing and throws a real hissy fit when he's trying to do something like move the chair / table / my bag / anything and he can't!
I have just been looking at those backpacks with the reins attached too as ds is a nightmare to stop running off! May have to tie him to the table (with the dog) when we go out to the pub Actually we'll probably just get one of those wrist strap things - I always hated seeing toddlers with reins but oh how it changes when they are your own kids

Lady I tend to agree - they can tell - they just throw out that 'safe' percentage number - dh knew what ds was at 11 weeks after 5 minutes looking at the screen. They gave me a 98% chance with this bub so no problems here buying the right colour, however, I did say to dh today that I will still keep the tags on all but what I need for 2 nights in hospital! (just in case of that 2%!)

I just watched that show about the spoiled kids and their health problems and i've decided I will pin ds down to brush his teeth regardless and not be afraid to scare him from brushing his teeth. A poor 2 year old having all his baby teeth pulled out howver that said - the parents were doing dreadful things dietary -wise which I'm not. Anyway, I'll ask the dentist what he thinks when I take him in a couple of weeks.

Veggie I have a lovely picture of you 3 camping out in the same bed with dh away and then had a chuckle at the sleep talking from all three! And wow that's werid - losing weight in your 3rd trimester!! Wonder why? Don't think that happened with me however I didn't weigh myself as much first time around I must admit.

No recognisable words here either unless dadadadada and bubububub count?

Hello Summer!

yes I got some lovely things at H&M as they have a new organic cotton range out and I bought ds some new PJ's at babygap and 3 tiny vests there too. I decided to buy them in tiny baby size "up to 7lb's" as I remember even the "newborn" stuff from mothercare was swimming on ds from day one as they always make them slightly larger, but I only bought the one pack in that size mainly for hospital as I know how fast the size will change! So cute though.

Oh and re the meetup lady, nah I meant the Wetlands however I just realised it was Kiwi who had mentioned it and I was having a dig at beans for no reason when she was just the invitee Don't think I'll be able to make the Northern one, but might be back off to that farm next week so will check it out for possible future venue

Right, couple more emails to reply to and then will try and get sleep - I'm awful at getting to sleep, but once asleep (excepts for numerous pee trips) I'm really awful at waking up

Rubena: a word of warning on the wrist strap. We got ds1 reins after dislocating his arm pulling him back from the road. The doc said it was a v v common injury in toddlers. Reins may look worse but they are safer, esp if you have a runner. I saw that program too - shocking. We finally decided to get a telly after over a decade and immediately start watching car crash tv!

Oh and if anyone has any idea how to sort out freeview I'd be pleased.

Zoe: I think they're all asserting their personalities! I do say no to ds2, not sure it does any good.

Sl: great news on the house front.

Ds2 is still spotty but they're clearing up and he's a lot happier. I'm at home today and tsking them to the park for the first time in ages!

Morning folks, had a bit of an early start today and DP already off to Amsterdam for a few days so it feels like midday already!

Turnip, the book isn't actually published until mid-July, that's just the pre-order you can see on Amazon, but thanks for the nice words and the feedback on the cover JB. It's really helpful .

We've got some reins here that I've been given and was avoiding using but now that T's decided he wants to walk in crowded shopping streets I think they're pretty essential. He's also taken to pushing his buggy and I've just left him to it, but in the park yesterday I sudden;y realised I couldn't see him anymore and he'd walked off about 500 yards away!

Glad DS2 feeling a bit better, Effie, have fun in the park. I think it's going to be another lovely day.

Zoe, T has had my number for ages. I am such a soft touch. At the moment I think I'm just about keeping him from playing with sharp knives but most other things seem to be fair game . I probably need to toughen up.

Oh, and we have no words here either.

Hi all,

No words here either except yeeeaaarr which we think is yes and mamamamamamamma........

Veggie I can't believe your DS2 is trying to scooter already. My Ds2 just chews the handle.

Although he is rather adventurous. We have a large climbing frame thing in the garden and he fell off it the other day. He landed on all fours like a cat and after 30 seconds of crying climbed up it again.

LadyT Happy Birthday for Friday enjoy your time in the big smoke.

Rubes we watched that spoiltrotten programme too I was disgusted and quite angry at those parents. I know we all bend the right wayto do things to suit our children but really no excuse for having a 10stone 5yr old. Saying that I ahve been rather lax about teeth brushing at night. Poor boys new bedtime regime tonight starting with getting rid of shmoks bottle.

Beans Summer huzzah on the house front super news.

I have been wondering about MOM do you think she is staying away because of poonami gate. Not seen her on FB either anyone got a mobile No. for her?

Took the boys to Basildon or Basvegas as it has now been renamed. I saw the Hollywood esque sign, hilarious. We were there to see Chris & Pui of cbeebies fame to a roadshow. Thought it was going to be quite show me show me sadly not but they lads seemed to enjoy it. We then had tea with my Sil and Bil and niece blah blah god it is so difficult to drags a conversation out of them. However DS1 and niece managed to squeel the place down with excitment so I guess I put up with dull and dullards for the sake of the children.

Anyway best go shower.

Hello everyone

Thanks for all the support on the thumb. It's going really well with no tears last night at all. She also napped in the car without a fuss. We have another month at least of it but I am cautiously optimistic.

I have reins for DS but tend just to pelt after him. We went to hever castle yest and I had to sprint to stop him landing in the moat! I always thought the rucksack things looked cute and a good compromise. A friend introduced her reins as a lovely new toy and they went down a storm.

Hope the househunting is going ok beans. If you are only in Streatham you'll be right by me. I'll make you a moving in cake.

Ladyt, the FMC got both DD2 and M right sex wise at 12 weeks so I wouldn't worry. It's another girl in there.

Sorry, DD2 trashing the place. Back shortly.
Love to all.

Re the talking I didn't mean to imply that he was particularly late, I think I must be listening to MIL too much as clearly he is a very normal little boy!! Oh but veggie he has no yes or no, nor nodding or shaking of head. No is "wahhhhhh" and yes is "excited giggle". He seems to be able to point out some animals as well, duck, dog, and birdie. I don't understand how he can know the words for these things but not milk and mummy, and other things like that! But maybe I am imagining it as the words are not very clear. It seems quite common though that they say animal names first, his little friends first word was dog and they don't even have a dog!

Oh going back I forgot I also wanted to say that trace i think your hair looks fabulous and very stylish. i have shortish hair but it never looks that good!

And I wanted to say hello to Indith, Nolda and lowrib if they are still lurking.

I do agree ladyt that they are probably right on the girl! Just kidding. They got me right at the 12 week scan (last time).

Oh veggie I wasn't thinking of putting two seats on my current bike. Toying with the idea of how I will get two around especially if we move to where we are thinking of and they are both in nursery 3 miles away or so. Not so keen on trailer through town (though it's a quiet route). There is a cool shop near me that sells dutch style bikes so might check them out. They have those big bakefiets bikes with the bucket like thing on teh front that are cool!.

Oh Jam i don't think mom was bothered by poonami gate was she? I think she thought it was funny!! I hope she is ok.

Helloooo, I didn't see Panorama. Sounds dreadful. I clean DD's teeth every night and have done since she had one tooth at insistence of dentist SIL and mostly she doesn't like it tbh and I feel like a meanie but it has to be done.

Syb, given that it's only Day 5 I think she is doing really really well. Been thinking of you!

Jam, you are a trouper going to that roadshow. I think Chris and Pui are the most annoying folk on CBeebies but I guess I am hardly the target audience No, that fake granny is worse. Or possibly Big Cook Little Cook. I remember someone telling me that one of them is a right shagger but I can't remember which one. DP and I always argue about which one it could be. He thinks no one would touch Little Cook with a proverbial barge pole.

ZJ - DD definitely tries it on with me more than with Daddy. He gets more spontaneous kisses and cuddles than I do as well. But I don't mind as she sees me all the time. When she has something she shouldn't, if I just give her a certain look she often starts shaking her head and saying "No, no" as if a good girl like her would never do anything naughty and often hands it over. On the other hand, if it's something really good, she will go ballistic and hang on for grim death to whatever it is. Quite a few words here but frankly, given that she spends most of her time still or very slooooowly bumshuffling around, she has plenty of time to muse on her surroundings. I think there might be something in the loosely inverse relationship between speech and movement at this age. They all even out in the end (I am HOPING so as I REALLY don't relish carrying DD around when I have got a newborn and a cs wound).

Right, need to sort myself out and pack up stuff.