Dec 08 Mums - Terrible twos already? Tears, tantrums, tiaras and tractors - and the rest!

[Beans33]

Hope this is better - sorry all!

My gosh Kiwi, you poor thing. How fast was the car going when it hit you? That must have been so scary. I would put the MMR off. She could have an immediate reaction and you don't need that on your plate right now.

I find it strangely comforting that others have the whinging problem too. Veggie, I think you and I do have very similar first and second borns. I think it is hard having h angelic one first as you constantly compare. Everyone told me second children were easier. I wish! DD1 is the kindest, sweetest girl. Sometimes I see glimpses of that in DD2 but its often disguised behind layers of frustration and irritation. I always find myself thinking maybe she will be easier after the next developmental leap (i.e. sitting, crawling, talking, walking). And sometimes she seems like she has turned a massive corner and then she has another bad spell. Having said that he is being absolutely sweet and lovely today and has yet to cry or moan.

Oh, and I am not in France . We ended up cancelling our holiday as Ryan Air is still very delayed and a delayed journey with DD2 would be a NIGHTMARE. We got a nearly full refund so that is good. To cheer ourselves up e are off to Cowley Manor for a few days next week and Babbington House the week after (the Babbington House break is actually by present for having DD2 but we kept having to rearrange it). I am actualy quite pleased with how its all turned out and a looking forward to nice relxed UK breaks.

Aubi, I am very sorry about France but glad you are appeased by the other trips. The weather is so super at the mo. Babbington House I am hoping we will be ok for flying to Switz on Thurs but I am not counting my chickens. I must admit, though, the thought of shepherding 11 boisterous cricketers plus various hangers on to the right place is making me feel a bit tired at the moment. Everyone seems to be flying at different times and there's actually a reasonably complex train journey at the other end, and I am not confident that some are up to coping with it. They are grown men, but a section of the team couldn't find their a* with both hands, as the rather coarse phrase goes.

Summer, hope your DS has chilled a bit today. If I stop DD from doing something she is still doing defiant face and lots of pinching (she only pinches ME, never her Dad) and lots of kicking out and screaming. Sigh.

Oh, and good luck with DD's arm this afternoon, Daisy. Hope you have a lovely time out tonight.

has anyone heard from MumorMom ?
We didnt get to have our picnic outside. DS1 needed a wee and wanted to have the picnic at home, not outside anyway. He let me cut his hair though, so thumbs up for that.

Yes, NJAN, I was thinking about her again this morn. Where can she have gone?

Aw, sorry about the picnic.

I must go back through as I feel there are people I haven't 'spoken' to for ages as I have been posting very haphazardly this last week or two.

Can anyone remember when the third trimester kicks in? Is it 32 weeks?

Aubs I think you're right, I'll postpone the jab. Taxi was fortunately going v slowly otherwise it could be a lot worse ...

By the way your description of DD2 is exactly like my DD. She can be adorable but most of the time she's miss grumpy/ high maintenace. Except at nursery of course... As she's my first it also terrifies me lest number 2, when we get round to it - be the same. Two like that would be a total nightmare. But surely they couldn't be the same!? It puts me off trying ...

Kiwi def postpone the jab I think is a good plan. I hope DH can swap, isn't there a special leave you can take in situations like this, I mean he can take to help out. Compasionate leave or something? That is so good of her nursery to take her Monday. I wish I cook you a veggie lasagna for your freezer.

Sorry about France Aubs but I think the UK breaks sound nicer.

I've managed to almost completely put the bunk bed together. It really should be done by 2 people but I was being impatient and stubborn and wanted to get it done. Unfortunately it fell over at one stage a quite important bit has cracked but I think I can put an extra screw in to reinforce it and it'll be fine. DH sounded really relieved when I said I'd put it together as then we don't have to do it tomorrow. We just need to get mattress tomorrow from Ikea but that's fine, we'll pop DS1 in the play crèche bit grab the mattress then coffee at the cafe. Apparently loads of people here go to ikea for breakfast, not to shop just for breakfast because it costs €1 and their kids are entertained. I think I'd rather cook my own.

hi everyone, how are you all? A quick post from my phone (daren't write lots). My puter keyboard has broken so can't write much from there! But trying to lurk. Love to all the babies xx Jolly and Trace I'll email you from work next week

Aubi sorryyour travel plans have beencancelled. But your UK breaks sound lovely.

Veggie well done on getting the bedput up. I usually find doing things like that myself a lot easier than when DH is about. He can really make a meal out of it!

Well, the cast is off DD's arm. She seems okay with it, although she still seems to be a little hesitant about using it. But the advantage to having it taken off was that I could wash her hair properly and get a bit of conditoner on it. It was beginning to look like a bit of a birds nest!

Arghhhh bloody space bar

So did they decide it wasn't a fracture then. You were saying it hurt and was unsupported, did she have a sling while the cast was on? Hey have a nice night out tonight Daise you deserve it!

DS1 is in his new big bed, he's a little nervous as he's now in the adjoining room which means he's only a couple of meters from us but with a wall inbetween. I'm keeping the door open but he's still a bit unsure. He was in a room down the corridor but since we've been here we've all slept in the same room. We started off that way and well we all quite liked it so stayed that way. This is not quite sleeping all together but he's not too far away. I know it's silly to co sleep so long but I know one day he won't want to snuggle up to us anymore so I'm making the most of it while we can.

Right DS2 is settles DH has gotten take away, Indonesian yum, so I'm off!

Trace you are an absolute star - swimsuit arrived this morning - that's the fastest mail order ever! It fit's great and tomorrow morning I will be trying it out in the water. Thank you so much I do not feel so R-Rated for ds's swimming class now

A touch of the sinusitis has kicked in again and was feeling quite ill this morning but went to work anyway - won't tomorrow if I feel yuk though. My eye is all red too dunno if that's related....

Well done on the bed Veg.

Lady isn't third trimester from 29-40? Geez I'm not there yet! Wow that trip has come around fast Thurs??

Aubi - at your breaks

Hope Beans is having a nice time

Must go - shattered tonight and quite a bit of trash TV to catch up on

I've been up an hour, I hate it when I wake up in the earling morning as I just worry about everything. I should hear something about my book next week now the London Book Fair is over. It was only sent to three publishers and of course it would be a miracle if any of them wanted it, and if they don't it will just go off to some more - par for the course - but I am finding it hard to hold my nerve.

Spot, how did the meeting go on Thurs with your marketing man?

I was doing some very dusty work at the house yesterday and didn;t wear a respirator for the first hour as I couldn't stand it on my face but I regret it now as it's all on my chest. Feels horrible. Where will it go?!

I wonder if Dora's DH got back?

Trace, how is Lu these days?

Rubes, I get sinusitis in pregnancy as well - it's such a nuisance. Also it makes me snore, which I don't like.

Hope your computer gets fixed soon, Zoe. We don't want you AWOL as well

Hope DS1 was ok in his big boy's bed, Veggie!

Right, I suppose I should force myself back to bed. It's properly light now.

Oh - before I go, we are laying quarry tiles in the downstairs shower room and they will come out on to a couple of steps which lead down to the entrance hall. What do you put on the ends of the steps? Just tiling up to the edge doesn't seem right somehow...

Hi Lady - I couldn't get to sleep until 12 and then up again at 0615. I can just hear ds nattering to himself now! I'm not suppose to wake an hour before the baby!! I'm not sure what I have been up thinking about - so not sure it's worrying in my case but I know where you are coming from. You have a lot on your plate.
My eye is still red this morning but the pressure has gone. I still don't really want to go in to work but I think I will.

You girls are so funny re: FB!

Right off to get ds sorted for breakfast so we can get it down him early enough to not sink or poo at swimming!

Veggie - no idea if it was broken or not![cofused] The Dr I saw yesterday said the A&E Dr wouldn't have been wrong, but he thought it was more of a 'green stick' frature?? She was fine and weight bearing on it when he took the cast off so he left it off.

Rubs hope you get on okay at work, I hate sinusitus.

Lady, hope you managed a bit more sleep. Your book is fab I just know it is!

I have a shocking headache from too muchwine last night. Still I had a lovely time even if two of my friends were absent as they have been left stranded in Lanzarote and at the moment appear to never be coming back.

daisy - DH says "it's a kind of break that you get in young children. If you imagine a wooden ice lolly stick and you break it so that you've got one side broken and one side still attached, it's like that". So not broken all the way through, should heal faster. Hope that's some help! (though it would have been good for dd's own doc to explain that to you...)

Exactly JJ, it's very common in kids and heals easily A because it's not a complete break and B because kids just heal better. They call it a green stick because if you have a green stick like a very thin branch on a tree and to break it it kind of bends and splinters a bit but doesn't break.

Gotta go I left my bag at ikea so have to go back for ur

JJ and veggie thanks, that makes sense!

Had a lovely day at the beach with the DC's. DH home soon from work so BBQ I think and some cheerfulness round the chiminea. Have a lovely evening everyone.

Quiet on here today!

Crummy day so far. DD kicked me very sharply in the lower abdomen when I was changing her nappy (she doesn't like having her nappy changed and lashes out sometimes) and it still hurts and that was late morning I have a scan tomorrow as I am seeing the consultant in the afternoon but actually I think it might be that she got me right on the caesarian scar and mine is a bit sensitive, don't know if anyone else finds this.

Other is that had a row with DP and he is really getting me down. I am thinking of going to London tonight instead of tomorrow morning. Things have really been better these last few months, I thought we'd really turned a corner. Not sure now. Everything seems uphill.

Sorry to bore on about myself! Has anyone seen that new John Lewis ad, with the sequence from small baby to old age? It would be a total killer for me but fortunately they have teamed it with an awful Billy Joel song with dodgy lyrics, otherwise I would blub every time it was on.

Oh Lady you poor thing sorry you've had a bad day. That kick sounds painful, I'm sure baby is fine but not nice for you. I know he's in the doghouse anyway but could DP do a few nappy more nappy changes these are only going to get harder for you as you get bigger. Maybe also try to change her from the side if that's possible. I guess if you've decided to head to London tonight your probably there by now. Sweetie you have so much on your plate at the moment, finances, the book, the house, DP's mum! I wish I could come to the FMC make you one of those nice hot chocolates (which I know you don't like so I'll have it) then take you for a nice lunch before your consultant appointment. Are you 20 weeks already?

Just putting DS2 to bed, DS1 is next door with DH reading to him. He loves his bed Lady, we bought him a new mattress yesterday (he loved laying on each of the mattresses to choose the one he wanted) and also
got some bits from IKEA. We have really decorated up his room and he just loves it. They had some car sticker things which have used to decorate the slide that comes off the bed and it looks brilliant. We also got one of those leaf things from ikea and it goes over the top of the bed and we are going to make a little tent canopy thing for the end.

We were supposed to go to the beach today but despite being 21 it was quite cloudy and we thought it might rain so instead I popped out and got some sand for the sandpit and the boys had a great afternoon in the garden. Unfortunately not all the sand stayed in the sandpit.

Also we had a chat to our neighbour about one of her daughters babysitting and it turns out her eldest has done a lot of babysitting and even a bit of au pairing for some of the previous tennants so we are going to sort out to get her to sit for us. Will be so nice to
have a few nights out. Also might look at getting her to watch the boys during the day some weekends, so we could even do some riding or runs together.

Right better get on DS1 wants to say goodnight to me.

Hi All!

Got back from Danesfield House this afternoon - wow, had an amazingly relaxed weekend. Didn't really do anything! Had a lovely massage/exfoliate thing for women up the clacker (love that!) and did some swimming and ate a lot. I ate a portion of pate. Now feeling terribly worried about listeria. I'm an idiot. But thought it was a good idea at the time - sounded so delicious. Duck liver. Silly me. Had a lovely glass of rose champers though. Feeling thoroughly spoiled. Slept til 9.15 on Saturday! Although slightly marred by my lovely friend waking me up with loud snoring last night and insomnia for a couple of hours in the night!!! But all in all, that is a small niggle and it was a wonderful weekend.

Have also swollen up in the ankles and fingers over the weekend. Looking like a hot air balloon. Not so good! Never mind. Am 7 months pregnant today, so guess it was going to happen! Literally due 2 months today. Holy cow. Just hope the pate hasn't affected things. Is there any way I can find out? EEEK. Honesly, so selfish of me. Don't know what possessed me. Sure it's fine, but can't help worrying! Especially as have had a bit of low grade tummy ache today and slightly runny poo. Sorry, TMI!

Aubs - your Babington House visit sounds a wonderful substitute for France, especially with this weather. I went once with my handsome but dull actor boyfriend. But he was too tight to put us up in the hotel, he was a member, so we went there to use the facilities, but stayed in a B&B nearby!!! I embarrassed myself by ordering "turbo" instead of turbot for dinner - hahahaha! Plus I'd forgotten my swimming costume so had to use one from their lost property, which was a size 8. I was then a generous size 12, so it wasn't a pretty sight. Especially as, to my horror, it laced up the front across my v small cleavage and.... IT HAD A G-STRING AT THE BACK! Dear GOD! My pasty white cellulite was on full display to the trendy world. Mortified.

Kiwi - are you ok my lovely? I've posted on your FB - but please please let me know if anything I can do to help - do you want me to help with shopping or anything? I'm more than happy to. Let me know please please!

DH and DD due back in an hour and I couldn't be more excited to see her. Worried I'm going to cry with joy at the sight of her. Had a lovely weekend and didn't really miss her as wanted to make most of my time to myself and knew she was in safe hands. But now it's nearly time to see her, I couldn't be happier - feel like bursting! YAY!

xx

PS ladyt - are you ok? Horrible to have disagreements with DP - I hope you're bearing up. And that your abdomen is ok. Glad you're having a scan tomorrw to put your mind at rest. I didn't have c-sectin, but I know friends from NCT still have sore scars.

Do you want to meet up at all while you're in town?

x

Ooh, I'm off - DD due shortly! Chat to you all tomorrow. Big fat love all round.

x

Ah, you are so cool to cheer me up, Veggie and Beans. I feel better now and haven't gone to London as DP made it up with me (better than both of us sulking for a couple of days). I have to just let it go as the fact is we are BOTH under quite a bit of stress at the mo so I must cut him (and me) some slack. Tummy still feels funny but I do wonder whether the kick was a coincidence as my glands are really swollen (Jam, was it not glandular fever in the end?) so it could be that, OR I have been doing a heck of a lot of bending and working in the new house recently. I don't have a proper scan tomorrow, just a hand held as I have a routine consultant's appointment, but it will be enough to see everything is ok. I'm very nearly 18 weeks so haven't got the 20 weeker for another fortnight.

That is a lovely idea to meet up, Beans, and I would have bitten your hand off normally but I have a packed schedule sadly and need to come back on Tuesday afternoon/evening anyway to prepare to Swiss trip. Another time, I hope!

I wouldn't worry about the pate, seriously. As a one off, the risk of listeria must be fractional. Put it out of your mind. I am also bad as I have eaten the wrong kind of cheese, and more than once as well. Well, it doesn't seem to trouble the French.

Iam glad DS1 is happily ensconced in the new bed, Veggie. I think the babysitter idea is a great one so hope you can fix something up. We have a lovely babysitter but she is very busy and a 30 mile round trip away in the centre of Oxford, so we don't use her very often.

I've been wondering about Kiwi too. I hope she is improving/resting.

Beans, Danesfield House sounds splendid. We have a day voucher for a local spa - massage, lunch, use of the pool and facilities) and I need to persuade DP that we need to spare a Saturday away from the house and do it. In which vein, Aubi, have a lovely lovely break.

Right, off to pick at some supper.

Lady: glad you made up. Hope the scan and appt go well tomorrow. I was booted by ds1 regularly in my second pg and all was fine. Do make sure you rest enough tho and get DP to help out with the physical stuff as Veggie says. Will dd suffer being changed standing up?

Beans: I'm sure you're fine re the pate but keep an eye on the swelling - am sure it's just the heat but worth mentioning to your mw. You're not getting headaches or anything?