Dec 08 Mums - Terrible twos already? Tears, tantrums, tiaras and tractors - and the rest!

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Hope this is better - sorry all!

Right 10th is also on the calander... "Meet up with fruit and veg" Can anyone else come too?

I've been meaning to ask for ages now - and Jolly you just reminded me - I have the issue one stage on i think. I have the Nuby beaker which has been fantastic - honestly he took to it so fast after his bottle but he has had it ages now and I have heard that it's so very similar to a bottle teat being soft and all that so now I'm trying to get him onto a hard beaker. He's a weirdo as he'll drink milk out of his Tommy Tippee cup with no lid (supervised) but that's just the problem, I don't want to have to supervise him and he really only has about 100 mls before pushing the cup at me and spilling it - probably as he's pissed off with the cup. I've tried every bloody cup under the sun it seems but i need a good beaker which doesn't spill or leak when tuirned upside down, and which doesn't keep having any 'valve' fall out - (the 'cow up' is useless due to that) I might have to go and have a look thisafternoon. My other question is how much milk? he always has some before bed but i don't always give him an afternoon one now (unless I'm out or something) as he seems to eat more dinner if I don't - so i know it's been asked a million times but how much milk is enough? ds would probably have about 500 mls some days and 6-700 other days including at least a cup over his cereal etc - probably more actually and the other question is can anyone recommend a good beaker with all of the requirments listed above so i can get him off the Nuby beaker?

Right DS in bed and DH been home and gone again to some work malarky via the bike
No afternoon nap and a little milk from a cup then big dinner (def better with not as much milk) infact I have realised I had actually been giving him more like 300ml at a time with the Nuby beaker (it has no measurments on the side so I measured it properly and it turned out to be more than I thought anyway, gave him his night time milk in the cow cup, and he had no problem with the hard spout, until the stupid valve fell off inside again and then it was a bit too fast but he had finished most of it by then. I really need a decent beaker which is non-spill but at the same time not too hard for them to suck it out of? Anyone know of the beaker of all beakers which is hard spouted?

We use the anywayupcup with both boys progressing to it after the nuby. However, DS2 mainly drinks from it for the novelty value as he prefers drinking straight from an open cup too and also isn't that fussed about cows milk.

Rubs stress is a nightmare for BF, proper painful difficult stress, like your having. My SIL nan died suddenly and quite unexpectedly just as her 2nd DD was born and she was very close to her nan. Within a week my little niece had failure to thrive and had to go onto formula because my SILs milk had a low flow and just couldn't give her enough nourishment, she went onto to feed her last 2 children but the doctors said it was the sudden shock of her nans death that must have caused it as she had fed her first child fine.

DH is stuck in Barcelona because the Dutch have closed their airspace due to the alleged volcanic eruption. He is due to fly out tomorrow at 10 but it's nor looking good. Not sure about our flights on Saturday to Budapest?

Good evening ladies (wonders if anyone remembers me).

I've managed to start lurking again in past two weeks but prior to that have had such sleep problems with DS that I was going to bed as soon as he did (7pm) just to get a couple of hours before the nighttime battles started. So not had chance at all to get on. Things have slowly turned a corner the past two weeks (after refusing night feeds and offering only water) and he has actually slept through on quite a few occasions. Of course I was still waking hourly expecting to hear him and praying he wouldn't wake. I still do an early morning feed if he wakes at 5ish and I want an extra hour or two in bed! Anyway enough moaning. I'm just grateful to be getting s bit of sleep now and am going to try and stay up for the debate on tv tonight (which will be a very late night for me!)

Another little breakthrough tonight in that he didn't need a bf to get to sleep - he actually took some cows milk which he normally refuses and then 8mins of rocking and he was out.

Anyway, I hope everyone has been well and I see there are quite a few people expecting again. Congratulations. Despite the sleep troubles I have obviously not been put off too much as we are also due in October (had forgotten how bad morning/all day sickness was!!) I saw LadyT on Oct thread when I glanced but I'm not going to join it as not too good at keeping up with these things.
Am 13weeks now but first scan not until 16weeks which is frustrating. My SIL is a MW so we've had a listen and she says my abdomen feels the right size for the number of weeks I am which was reassuring.

Can't offer advice on the beakers Rubena as we took a backwards step tonight and went back to a bottle for the milk ( he won't touch his tommy tippee cup if anything other than water is in it).

Won't witter on as feel like a stranger butting in but good luck with the book LadyT and congrats on yours Spot.
Veggie - will keep fingers crossed re flights.

Congratulations, Modernlove . So nice to see you again. Please stay!

We are still on bottles so no advice to give there.

DP stuck in Amsterdam for gawd knows how long, was due to come back tonight but all flights cancelled and Eurostar booked until Sunday, he's currently in a 2 hour queue at the train station to see if he can get tickets for a train to Calais. Veggie, hope all ok for Budapest .

T currently groaning himself to sleep. Sounds like a powertool!

Too T and his 9 year-old cousin to the swimming pool today. I'm knackered! Can remember now why we don't go so often, it's such a faff.

Wowy Massive congrats to you Modernlove, and welcome back - hope you are around to stay. I know what you mean about the A/N groups. I had joined one but I find it hard to keep up with it as well as this - and the other thing (more important) is that they are mostly 1st timers and I find it all the same stuff I had the first time around which gets tiring. I feel sorry for the second timers on here when I was a first timer and probably banging on about stupid stuff they were probably tired of getting nagged for advice about!
Veggie - yeah as I was saying earlier - I know all about that stress and BF thing - fist time around when I had that major issue in week one, I had to get the MW over for an emergency meeting as I was in tears and agony and milk kept being produced but would not flow. She said it happens with stress and I ended up getting it sorted with a breast pump but I never really had fast flow before or after that but I know that incident didn't help. I was able to go on for about 5 months and then all the international travel really buggered me up but I was happy with at least going 5 months. Thanks I will look into those any way up cups

have just googled - looks like a good beaker Veg - can i buy it in Boots or where?

hangabout, i've just noticed that cup is made by the same people as that cow cup I have? Does it have a removable valve and if so does it keep falling out?

Think I'm talking to myself, aren't I

Hi Modernlove and congratulations.
Rubena no advice on cups, the only thing that works for DD is the Tommee Tippee spout, but she tends to throw whatever is in there everywhere. She seems to find the ones with valves too difficult to drink out of and gets frustrated.
DH is away in London tonight andI was hoping for a nice quiet evening to do my nails etc ahead of a wedding on Saturday. However DD is being a massive madam tonight and just will not settle. There is nothing wrong with her, she just wants me inthe room with her and every time I leave she just screams until I go back in. It is really upsettling DS and he didn't get a proper story and cuddles tonight because I had to go and deal with DD which is not fair on him. I went up again 10 minutes ago and basically threw her back down in the cot and told her very sternly 'enough, go to sleep NOW' and she sighed, rolled over and hasn't made a peep since . Obviously she just needed me to tell her, and it makes me realise that she does take in more than I credit her for, or it could be a coincidence of course.
Sorry for all of those with flight problems. The groom of the wedding I'm going to is in Finland at the moment, was due back tonight but obviously flight cancelled. He now has a flight to Manchester tomorrow night, even if they lift the air space restrictions by then, it's going to be a close run thing to get back to Herefordshire in time for the wedding on Saturday.
Right, off to beautify myself a bit now that things are quiet upsatirs.
By the way, is it alright to wear grey to a wedding? Pretty grey silk top and flouncy skirt, but it does seem a bit of a dull colour for a wedding

Rubs it was one of the few I found that didn't have a valve, I hate the value ones. It has teeny little kind of flap things on the top and but the beaker but is hard. If they suck on it the milk comes out easily but it doest spill. The tops do die eventually though but you can buy the tops only on amazon. I used to buy my beakers at waitrose, I think they have em I boots and amazon.

I have a sad little man laying on me at the moment, DS2 was really unsettled going off to bed and not really fussed about having his BF, eventually I picked up only to find he was burning up. He's had some paracetamol and seems to have reduced his temp a bit. He's asleep now but I'm watching tele and don't want to move him. I had a lovely pizza tonight surprisingly from Dominos, with all the toing froing with DH about the airport and settling DS2 I didn't fancy cooking. Then watched DIYsos and cried but cheered up with HIGNFY now on outnumbered.

Hi modern, congratulations, and sounds like your doing well with the sleep thing. Please stay.

Your poor DH Spot hope he makes it back. Is he due back in the Dam next week?

flipping'eck. I just spent ages catching up, wrote a massive long post then lost it. grr.
Off to bed now but will be back tomorrow to write it all again...
night night xxx

Veggie that sounds perfect that beaker - i hate the valve thing on the cow cup as it constantly falls into the milk then just free flows. I'll look at Boots and if not I'll get one off Amazon - thanks. Your Pizza sounds lovely. I nearly got take away as DH was eating out, but cooked chicken for ds and I, and now DH has just said the rep pulled out so no meal for him - typical.
Hopeyour dh gets out ok and hope ds2 feels better soon .

Katie - you've been awol for ages. Good to see you again. That was cute about your dd in a frustrating kind of way I bet! Hope you get some peace to get beautified.

Spot hope your dh gets out too - geez this situation has played havoc with the airports - and I have to work tomorrow

Sorry Rubes, I've become a lurker. I always mean to post but usually run out of time having read all the posts. Will try harder

Katie. I know what you mean. When I've got nothing on, I totally monopolize the thread (ie: today) and then when I get busy I sometimes lurk if I get time but then it's so hard to remember what everyone said over a few days that it just gets lost and then I don't have time to catch up at all!

Don't think you'll be working tomorrow Rubs, do they tell you not to come in if there are no flights?

not heard anything so bet I'll be working, It's loads of paperwork for past and future flights, but I'll keep my fingers crossed! Aren't they opening the airspace at 0700 tomorrow? I'm not sure how many if any are taking off though. Hopefully it'll be very quiet! Or it could be the opposite

Actually having thought about it - there will be loads of flights diverted and all over the place so I would imagine it will be a nightmare there tomorrow

Morning! Hope today isn't too bad for you Rubes.

Hellooooo to Modernlove and congratulations! Lovely to hear from you again.

Katie: ds2 had an odd one last night, shouting in his cot. Eventually brought him downstairs and he was happy as larry but didn't go to sleep until nearly 10! We were up watching the debate. Kind of interesting but still too contrived for my liking. And DC needs to have words with his stylist.

Veggie: any signs of DH getting home? DH's new employee is stuck too - meant to be flying in yesterday.

I'm off to sunny Bournemouth on Sunday for a conference - it'll be a long three days without the boys. Dh is quietly panicking about having to do packed lunches and baths and all the rest of it. I am planning to take some knitting with me though.

Feel like phoebe off friends when she's on hold to the telephone company of whatever forever and thinks it's a freephone number but actually racks up a huge bill. I have been on hold to P&O for half an hour but don't know why I'm bothering, can't imagine there are any spaces left today.

Have a great conference, Effie, i'm sure DH will manage fine .

Effie DH actually does better packed lunches than i do i think. Wow three days, I love conferences esp morning coffee break. Your DH has an employee his business must be doing well. Does he have others?

DH has been told that Schipol it opening at 2pm to inbound & outbound, not sure if they are going to do a heathrow and push that back as it gets closer to 2pm but he is getting his work travel sorter outer lady to sort it as they need to get him back to get to his course in Budapest by Monday.

poor all those of you with travelling dh/dps - hope they get home soon.

we are off to a wedding today where some guests can't make it because of flights.

finally got my period today on DAY 70. ugh ugh ugh. how am i ever going to get pregnant again if i ovulate every 2 months?

Enjoy the wedding WG. Can you go to the GP about your cycle? I think Spot might have better advice there.

I'm helping to organise the conference so doubt there'll be many breaks for me! But I get to stay in a nice hotel (I love hotels) and hopefully meet some nice people. Mostly over 60 and radar experts but hey.

Veggie: dh is doing well, he has more work than he can manage. Turning it into a proper business and employing someone is the next logical step. It's a bit of a gamble and will mean using some of our savings but worth a punt I think. But then as long as I have a bed, food and coffee I'm pretty content.

Effie, does your DH want to employ me remotely? I work on Mon and Fri and would be happy to send him my CV etc p.

Oh and Happy Birthday LadyT!

Enjoy the wedding WG, sorry to hear about rubbish cycles. I second Effie's advice to go to the GP, have you taken Clomid before? A few of the people I interviewed for the book found it helpful in re-starting ovulation and regulating cycles.
If you're more alternatively minded I also know acupuncture has worked for some people.

hi all.
gosh I hope all these flights get sorted for you. Hope work is not too horrendous rubs modern congratulations! Fab to hear from you. Are you keeping well so far? Don't worry about keping up with the thread - it's lovely of you to pop in when you get chance. Hope the scan goes well.
rubs re milk - P has no milk whatsoever. She gets through about 1 -2 tommee tippee beakers of water in 24 hours, which I know is pitiful but can't really get any more into her!
spot was it you with the meal replacement thing? When P completely refuses a meal I give her a bowl of weetabix which she will almost always eat! Probably setting myself up for trouble but at the mo I'd rather know she has a full tummy for bed, especially now she doesn't even have a BF before bed.
veggie your little sportybabyveggies are very impressive! Scooting already! Hope DH manages to get home to you today.
ZJ P gets a stern 'no' and removed from whatever bad thing she's doing, but tends to give me a big grin and carry on doing it! We've started to use naughty corner a bit, where she gets put outside the lounge (door still open) and she has to wait for a minute. After that we tell her what she did wrong then give her a hug. She does get up and try to come back in, but after being put back a few times she usually sits and waits, then grins massively when she gets her hug, so I'm not sure if she understands why she goes there, but like I've said before we have to let L see that P has consequences for her behaviour too.
zj/JB - good idea about the email. Our lap top died a few months ago and took all our email addresses with it, so I don't have yours, but mine is [email protected]
I'm sure I had loads to say and respond to (and in fact did last night before I lost it [grr]!) but I must dash for now. ta ta xx