June mummies 2 - the gangs all here!!

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one crisp new thread!

Just read the entire thread Welsh Mum - see what you mean about this being a common problem . We are having a windy unsettled day too, she's only quiet if im rocking her bouncy chair, and if I stop, she starts griping again poor thing. DH is out DJing tonight from 10pm to 3am which I am dreading. Guess I will just have to grit my teeth and deal with whatever the night throws at us. Have stocked up on chocolate, which somehow makes me feel better.

Jonahb re: Gina. Maybe we need big poking sticks to keep babies awake - or nannies!!!

mandymac, looks like we're both music widows tonight.My DH is playing a gig tonight, so I'm on my own and really not looking forward to it at all. Best of luck

hi all

Lynny - how are you doing? sorry to hear of your health stuff - sounds pretty scary

MM - think we're all suffering windy babies. This must just be the age, then some worse than others. There's a windy thread on MN if you look at that there's a variety of suggestions. You just have to try and see what works.

not such a bad night as I anticipated only up with him for 2 hours to settle - phew.

had a lovely day today chilling with a load of mums and kids in the garden. Ds v unsettled but much easier with a load of willing hands to help with both kids!!

got the weekend on my own with baby - am determined to do something as a treat, maybe cinema or a gallery. Need to re-charge batteries and remember I'm an adult! Plus I will be firmly on my own with the two from Monday am looking forward to it in one way, not in another.....

Jonahb how was your night?

dd started feeding at 9.30pm till about 11.30. Think she was definately comfort sucking, but infinately preferable to screaming. Finally got her to sleep in her Graco Swing at about 12.15am, switched it off after 15 mins, made sure she was well wrapped and then we both slept until dh got back at 3am.

Felt a bit naughty doing that, but survival tactics were required .

Mandymac, I agree wholeheartedly, survival tactics are paramount. I fed DS at 6:30pm and he was crying by 7:10pm and didn't stop. So at 8pm I tried option d for the first time, which entailed taking him for a 20 min drive in the car. It worked like a dream. I brought him inside in the car seat and he slept through till 10:30pm and his next feed. I find that taking him for evening walks doesn't work as the second you finish the walk, he starts up again. Dont like to tempt fate, but I can see a few more evening car journeys on the horizon

just been to the cinema with ds!! saw War of the Worlds...what a treat to do something adult for a change.....am making the most of my toddler free weekend though I miss her badly

hope everyone's ok

Hiya Mandymac, good to meet you

Lynny, blimey, how frightening. Sending you a big hug.x

Bubbs, congratulations on your win, you deserve it - not quite a 77 million Euro lotto jackpot but definitely better than nothing

Teabelly, your DS sounds such a funny, cheeky little boy. Is he happy with his little sister? DS1 is generally lovely towards his brother but can be a bit too enthusiastic in his cuddles. Oh, and I did catch him trying to put a cushion over DS2's head the other day.

Jonah, glad everything went well with the circumcision. We used to take DS1 out for a drive in an evening to send him off to sleep but he always woke up as soon as we brought him in the house.

Well we've been over to the in-laws today and it has completely thrown DS2, who has hardly slept and is now over-tired and can't calm down. Lovely.

Redheadmum, not having much joy here nap-wise - he tends to drop off in the carseat when I take DS1 to nursery, or on the settee when I'm watching telly, or in his reclining chair thing, but never, ever in his cot! Gina would turn in her grave (if she were dead).

Right, off to see if I can do something to help DS2 settle down a bit as it's way past his bed-time. Hope you all have a restful night.

evening all

life's still okay here. Step-FIL arrives tomorrow so i'm sure the peace and tranquility will be shattered, sure all the S**t we've been aioding will come out now!! don't think i posted about the stress with SIL and FIL just after DD2 was born. It's a long story and i won't post it incase someone who knows us and them reads it and put 2 and 2 together. Lets just say DD2 is now 8 weeks old and neither step-FIL or SIL have been to visit!!!!! DH's mum died last year so you would think they might just want ot make a fuss!! anyhow, if i don't post for the next day or too you know why!!! then i'll be back to vent no doubt. In-laws who have them!!

I'm not a big Gina Ford fan personnaly far more of a Baby Whisperer person. much more touchy feely eath mothery!! also like the no cry sleep solution.

evening all,

welcome mandymac-always nice to have another junie on board.

lynny-so sorry to hear of your spell in hospital.hope your'e on the mend and feeling better soon.xx

mrs w-we had the same problem re:sleep.dh and i went out for the first time on our own,on thursday(for his birthday),and my mum and dad babysat.had a nice meal then went to see the fantastic 4 which wasnt that fantastic!
ds normally has his last feed at about 10.30ish,and we feed him in our room with the lights off,and he normally goes straight down afterwards till about 7am.
mum fed him at her place and by the time we got home,he was wide awake and screaming for a bottle at 1am!
just goes to show that even at a few weeks old babies are obviously getting into a routine,even if you dont feel they are.

mandy-my ds absolutely loves his swing.he also has a big comfy play mat but only spends about an hour or so on there.the rest of the day he is swinging away,listening to the music and is as happy as larry.

katz-good luck with the in laws.hope it's not too stressful for you.

well...ds is coping really well with the plaster on his leg.i have to take it off tuesday morning,all ready for the hospital to put another on his leg tuesday afternoon.he really is a diamond and not even making a squeak about it being there.i just can't wait to give him a bath tuesday morning,as he hasnt had one all week.obviously i've been giving him a wash down but its not the same as a bath.
also having him weighed on monday and i cant wait to see what weight he is.he hasnt been weighed since he was in hospital so that should be interesting...especially with a heavy plaster cast on his leg.

hope everyone else is ok-it's gone a bit quiet on here lately!

Morning all!
Sorry been absent for a while. Have been reading but toohectic to post. Ds is sleeping a tad bit better at night, but he is still a bad napper. Never goes for more than an hour. Unless of course we are on the move. So I've been more in the move lately.
Jonah and Mandy I also spent friday night DPless. I was a bit of a nerve wreck, putting two to sleep at once. But DD seemed to understand the situation and behave so much better than she has been. amazing!

Lynny, hope you are doing better! What a scare! Are you taking coumadin? MIL had one blood cloth and now she is constantly in a low dose blood thinner.

BUbb - I think weighing him with the cast is "cheating" ! Glad he is doing fine with the cast. And congratulations for going out. I think I had 3 nights out with DP since DD was born (almost 3 years ago!!!) !

Have a good time those of you going into vacations!

Morning ladies I cant work out this baby
anyone feel the same?
The other nite william slept from 12 till 6am we couldnt belive it hubby thought hed missed a feed.
Then yesterday baby back feeding every two hours all day and all through last nite im very tired now, he seems to fall asleep alot on the breast then is very hungry when he wakes up.
Is there a way to keep babies wake when their breast feeding?
I will be falling asleep this afternoon
and another thing do u have to drink 5 pints of extra fluid whilst your breast feeding?
there my moan over
hope you all are well and your babies are settling well
On a different note ive tryed my pre preganacy cloths and they nearly fit yaaaaaaay
catch u all later xxxxxxxx

Morning EYM dd did a 6 hr stint at the beginning of last week , and then we had 2 horrible days & nights . Maybe last few days have been a growth spurt? I'm finding that if I'm not constantly drinking water I'm getting headaches, which I think is dehydration, I read that fluid intake should increase whilst breastfeeding from 2 litres to 3 litres per day and apparently whisky or vodka don't count .

I'm also back in pre-pregancy clothes even jeans ! Can't believe it after all the cake munching I did when pg.

Have now replace cake with Dark chocolate which I hear is good for mild production (don't know if thats true, but the idea works for me!).

Hope ds settles back down again.

Not much going on here, I haven't been keeping up with the thread. The lack of sleep is finally catching up on me so I am just feeding and washing nappies, entertaining DS and trying to treat his constipation not very successfully with prune juice. other than that sleeping or lolling around in bed.

I hope everyone is well.

Lynny - glad you are home - what a shock. DS likes his premaxx sling but I get afraid people won't know there is a baby in it as it looks so trendy I like it for a nip to the shops but not for a walk because of my bad back.

Good morning. It's quiet in the Wednesday household as DS1 is at nursery today. Am spending a lot of time feeling guilty about him, we just don't seem to be getting on - I am always shouting at him, and not surprisingly he'd rather be with DH than me. Because I'm breastfeeding, I feel like I'm always with DS2 too...we never have time just the two of us. Will have to make more of an effort this week I think (DS1 is only going to nursery two days a week now).

EYM, you asked about keeping the baby awake when feeding. I tickle DS2's feet, talk to him and stroke his cheek, all of which work on occasion (not every time though!).

Katz, how are things going with your step-FIL? Hope things aren't too stressful.

Pink, would second what KVG says about you being an inspiration, it's not surprising you are knackered. Hope you can get some sleep when DS does.

Have to admit to feeling very low today - yesterday a friend's little boy died. Poor little thing was only 5 months old, had been born with a rare (but not life threatening) syndrome, and died from an infection yesterday. I can't stop thinking about the family, and what they are going through, it's so unbearably sad.

Aww Mrs Wed very sad to hear about your friend xxxxxxx hope u feel better.
Morning ladies william is still feeding every two hours but had a better sleep with him last nite went from 4am feed to 8 am feed.
On the note of jim been unsettled the other day william filled a right nappy lol infact 3 he just kept going so maybe he was clearing his system hubby found it very amusing.
lol vodka sounds good to go with fluids
Went to Motherinlaw yesterday and william is smilling she was so loved with him (hubbys mum is 76) so this is a lovely time for her.
Hope we all have a more settled day xxxxxxxxxx

afternoon all,

hi lua-good to see you back.

kvg-during the day ds will sleep for a couple of hours at a time(in his swing),and he sleeps for about 8 hours during the night.he's been sleeping through the night from about 4 weeks so fingers crossed your dd will do the same very shortly.
wow-how fantastic for your friend to win on the premium bonds.my mum and dad win quite often but it's always £50,which is still better than nothing!

mrs w-so sorry to hear about your friends little boy.cant even imagine what they must be going through-how very sad.

eym-isn't it just lovely now they're smiling? oscar is smiling loads but as soon as i get the camera out,he stops-typical.

Hello everyone, I've not posted in AGES and its taken me about an hour to catch up on all your threads!

Mrs W - know how you feel. I lose my temper with DD1 far too quickly too - for stuff that I wouldn't even have raised an eyebrow at before DD2 was born. Its largely due to my own tiredeness and lack of time - I need her to move quickly, do something/refrain from doing something the second I ask and if she doesn't comply immediately (and what 2 year old ever does?) I jump down her throat. Poor little girl. Still, at least this only happens on days when i am at home on my own all day with the two of them - only twice a week, although that hardly makes it all better. i managed to take her to the local swings - just the two of us the other day and she was ecstatic - just kept saying "no daddy, no baby sister, just me and mummy" over and over again, so she obviously really misses one on one time. Ho hum, I suppose this is the most difficult time and it will pass soon.

Now then - question (and I'm a bit afraid to ask given that some of you poor souls seem to be surviving off 45 minutes sleep a night) - the little one sleeps a straight 8-9 hours at night but unfortunately this is between 7pm and 3-4 am rather than 11pm an 6-7 am which would be preferable! have tried everything to get her to feed at 11ish in the hope of getting her through but she is just not interested and won't take a drop. Anyone had/have experience of this and any top tips? I'm not particularly concerned as the little love is only 8 weeks old but if there is a quick "body clock adjustmemt" fix out there, I would love to know about it!

Afternoon all.

MrsW, just to say I was v sorry to read about your friends' baby.

Actually it makes me feel very bad for coming on to say how down I feel today. Not sure why, I think because the wedding at the weekend was so difficult for us because of dh's health problems. I can't see any end in sight (which is reasonable as there isn't any) and I just feel so trapped and lonely. Not the best as the dear old hv will be round this week making sure I haven't got PND.

I think I'd like to go and stay with my Mum for a week - although lord knows she wouldn't like to see me for so long, she has had a knackering summer of looking after various grandchildren! - but I don't think it would be fair to either ds or dh for them to be apart for so long. Or I could maybe go to Edinburgh to see a friend with a 2 year old but it's the bloody festival so no chance of accommodation. A resounding ARGH from me today I'm afraid

Hope all are well anyway. xxxx

trib-sending you a big hug.xxx

Oh Trib, sorry you are feeling so low. You have much on your plate, it's not surprising it's getting on top of you. You need to be looked after too.

You have us here to talk to whenever you feel down, so please don't feel you have to go through everything on your own.x

Noggermum, good to see you again. No idea about your sleep issues but I am envious of the length your baby sleeps! Mine won't go any longer than 4 hours.

Redheadmum, how's bedtime going for both of them? I had to put both of mine to bed at the same time tonight and it was a nightmare - DS2 was left abandoned on the floor whilst I tried to read DS1 a story, but he started screaming, then DS1 wanted more stories so I got stressed and shouted at him . I will make a vow here and now NOT to shout at him tomorrow.

Have no idea what to say to my friend - none of us (she's a friend from my post-natal group) know whether to send flowers, a card, to ring or just to leave her in peace.

hugs trib.

MrsW and other northners - i'm organising a spa genral mumsnet meet up in late sept/early Oct your very welcome to come and join the fun.

FIL visit not too bad at the mo!

KVG-actually the sleeping through was gradual but i dont think ds has ever woken up more than once in the night anyway
does your dd sleep alot during the day? maybe after the penultimate feed before bed,try and keep her awake as much as poss,then maybe she'll sleep for longer during the night-who knows!
we give ds his last bottle in our room with the lights out.might sound a bit mean but i try to not talk to him during that feed so he's very relaxed and sleepy by the time he's finished.

took ds's plaster off last night and he had his first bath in a week-woohoo,he was so happy and splashing away with both feet.
we're off to the hospital later today to get another plaster put on,but i can notice the difference already-the bone in his foot doesnt seem so prominent so thats good.

also having a great day as my pg friends waters broke this morning,so it looks like her babys on the way.

hope your all well!!