June mummies 2 - the gangs all here!!

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HI everyone

Both of my dd's are having a midday nap!?!?! How can this be?? How long will it last???? Well, dd1 sleeps reliably for 2 hours, not sure what dd2 will do!

I bought some shoes this morning, to go with the wedding outfit, so I'm all set, thank goodness.

I was so tired last night I forgot the 10 ish feed, ao we were woken up twice in the night Tonight I will feed her at 10!!!

Mandy, I'm an unabashed pubic breastfeeder I'm afraid I do it anywhere and everywhere if the need arises, I hate sitting in those stuffy, little bf-ing rooms, I'd much rather sit and have a coffee in a cafe to do it. They are good though if you need peace and quiet or if you're feeling a little unsure.

We're getting both dd's Christened next month. I'm debating whether to get dd1 a little white dress or just a nice, party dress for the occassion. Dd2 is wearing my christening shawl, so she has something special...

Time to go xxx

Lynny I leave DS lying around on his play mat tinkeling the over hanging toys for quite alot of time in the day. Is this a good or bad thing? He is listening to lord of the rings at the moment too and Beethoven. I talk to him a bit but not that much he seems quite advanced, he can move himself and respond to noises - openly pulls my hair. Are you supposed to stimulate them more? I mean I'm too bust washing things and trying to tidy up to do anything else. but he does stay lying around alot.

My health visitor said that they can get quite flat heads from lying on their backs so much.

The painters are coming on Monday

Oh lippy just missed you. I must confess I didn't think I would breastfeed in public but a hungry baby just grates on my nerves and I just shove my boobs in his gob no matter where we are However I prefer being at home because it is comfy to have a pillow.

Oh Teabelly I read the harry potter in one sitting, I finished the handmaids tale and am reading 1984. I was thinking I was going a bit slow... back to college soon.

Oh I think the results are out today. hopefully mine will turn up in the post tomorrow.

hi everyone from sunny Berlin!

Having a fab time. Visiting a dear friend (ds's godmother-to-be) with a 9mo regularly to talk, play, go for walks etc. and seeing other friends too. ds is 3mo today! and an absolute joy - he's started responding to our attention with big giggly grins , making a range of gurgly noises, reaching out and taking hold of toys! , having good long awake and alert periods where he just looks at what's going on... Is still feeding very frequently (several times at night) but I feel so lucky to have sorted bf out after the beginning we had that I don't mind. He is quite sicky and has his unsettled phases, but generall) because he's tired, and seems well - is gaining a good 5-7 oz a week. So generally all well in the berolina household .
Am afraid I'll have to catch up properly another time - just wanted to drop by and say hello

Glad you are having a good time Berolina

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Afternoon Junies hugsssss

William is now offically (early morning babe) woke
4 am this morn got I got up at 5 am as he wouldnt settle and he still didnt go down till 6 am. Fell so tired today we took william to clinic he now weighs 91b 11 so hes putting on weight lovely.

New NAM bottles are working well william doesnt seem to have as much wind.

We have our 6 weeks postnatal check next week

Did anyone say whether u can get the coil whilst breast feeding?

right im off my mind is mush today keep forgetting things hope we have a better nite.

Hope you all have lovely evening xxxxxxxx

Sorry guys. Haven't read the thread. But, just wondering if anyone has heard from Megi. She seems to have vanished from MN. I hope she just has computer troubles and is otherwise okay -- considering her husband's cheery news a while back.

Megi, if you are around, please cat me. Otherwise I'll assume we are no longer doing lunch tomorrow.

Hello Everyone!

I have spent an hour trying to catch up and have only got to Tuesday so far!! I am supposed to be studying so I will have to finish the rest tomorrow.

Welcome BlackheathMummy!

DP has my baby girl today for the WHOLE day which is so so so scary. That sounds awful doesn't it? I don't really trust anyone else with her fully, it's not exactly "trust", it's just that I feel that I know her best. Does that make sense? He regularly has her on his own for a few hours here and there but not a WHOLE day. They went shopping this morning, then fell asleep together on the sofa and now they have gone swimming. Well, if nothing else, at least she'll be tired and sleep well tonight.

Saying all that, she is going to nursery for a few hours every week too, but I think that she's in an environment where there are several people around to make any decisions, so I take a bit of comfort in that. We've built it up really slowly, just an hour then two hours and yesterday she went for three hours. It was far more traumatic for me than it was for her. In fact she came home all smiley and happy! And she loves children. Her cousins came over the other evening and started playing with her and each other and she was all bright eyed and smiley. Was lovely to see.

Uwila - How is work going? Have you got a new nanny now? I am trying to decide when to go back to work and really can't decide. mentally i want to go back ow, but I just love spending time with my little girl. What I really hate though, is being at home with her, but having a list of chores to do, so I'm not really spending time with her. I'd prefer to be at work and pay someone to do the chores!

Jonah - Our little girl was in a proper cot, in her own room from day one. We have one of those movement sensors for peace of mind. If you are going to buy one, try Boots as you can get all the extra points then.

Nogger & Bubbaloo - Do you have any tips you can share? I would love DD to sleep as long as your little ones. She will do 6hrs max, and I'm rying to stretch it out as she's lost interest in the night feed really. Trouble is, the waking up bit is a habit now...

Tea - Oh I know what you mean about the wine and WW!! I am desparate to lose weight, so I have indulged in a bottle of gin and some slimline tonic. All I can hear is my mother saying to me "Gin... Mother's Ruin you know..." I am failing miserably at WW (am doing it on my own at home though which prob doesn't help), but I have started going for be rides and the odd run when I'm not too tired. Am so fed up of having a kangaroo pounch!!

Lippy - DD became a bit of a lazy feeder, grazing at various times in the day, so my mother suggested expressing and bottle feeding her at those times so I could see exactly how much she was consuming. As it turned out, she finds it easier with a bottle and it just routinised her. Depending on how you feel, it may be worth a go?

Right, must go as I have to feign that I have been studying for the last hour and a half when they get back!!

Speak soon! x

BTW - Does anyone else seem to be suffering with bad skin? I have gone all teenagery in the last week or so and it is so disheartening ... was wondering if it might be the side-effects of the pill (progesterone only) or my own hormones....

Oh Scraggy, you can be my soulmate. That is exactly how I feel. I love my kids and love to hang out with them. But, let's face it when I give up my paycheck to stay home with them they end up playing by themselves while I do chores that I HATE to do. So what's the point? I might as well go to work. Generally, I come home from work to see my family. But when I'm coming home to do chores to therefore neglect my family, then I might as well stay at work and make money.

Also, Scraggy, I firmly believe that a baby adjust to child care much better at an early age (before 4 months). I don't think you should be made to feel guilty about this either. Happy mummy = happy baby.

Ha ha ha Uwila - I couldn't agree more - so far this morning since dd fell asleep at 9.00 I have dumped ds in the bath and have cleaned the kitchen, bathroom, cloakroom, emptied the dishwasher and loaded the washing machine...feel like I can at last sit down and play - but am too knackered to play now! and in anycase will have a prune boy for a son now and dd will wake for her 10.30 /11.00 feed any minute now! I didn't want to go back to work after I had ds, but I must say the minute I did I had a better time with him, as most of my time at home could be spent with him ...better go and get him out now - or I'll have a sultana boy, never mind the prune!

Morning!

I have just been for a run!! And I feel great, great, great!!

I have decide that I have to start my day at 7.30am in order to pack everything in. Lucy seems to be more contented with an earlier start too.

She's going through a phase of screaming in the evening, which I can only assume is wind-related. I say a "phase", she's done it two nights in a row... have dosed her up with gripe water so fingers crossed she won't do it tonight.

Last night, my let-dow reflex suddenly kicked in when DP and I were getting intimate!!! Relatively amusing / embarrassing!!!

Uwila, am glad to know that you have similar feelings. It's re-assuring.

Hope everyone has a good day! x

Hi everyone

Great to see some long lost Junies back again!! Hello Scraggy and Berolina!

Pink, you sound like you are doing a fabulous parenting job, especially as it's such a minefield. I find it all too easy to want dd2 either eating sleeping or sitting happily in her chair playing with an overhead toy and I have to really remind myself to get down ther and play with her. I always forget to give her 'tummy time' as well, that's important, but not after a feed

Scraggy, that's the thing I like least about bf-ing; not knowing how much they are getting at each feed. It's so frustrating. I'm at a point where I am wondering whether to express for dd2. I never did with dd1 and she didn't have a bottle until she was 6 months old!! I think it may be more useful second time aroud to be able to leave dd2 without worrying about feeds.
My dilema is that I want to go back to the gym and maybe go out with dp for an evening, but I also want dd2 to bf exclusively until she has solids - can't have it both ways so I will have to decide!!!

Well done to you for settling little Lucy into nursery so well, good staff will always make it easy for you (I used to work in a nursery!!). My dd1 has just started her nursery and loves it!!

Sorry Uwila, I haven't seen Megi, she was often very busy anyway wasn't she? I hope she gets in touch and you at least have a lunch together tomorrow, I bet she is still reeling

See you all soon xxx

Hello!
Good to hear from you, Scraggy and Berolina! I am so jealous of your determination scraggy! I keep planning to go walking, back to running, or something! But I usually can only be a*sed to walk if it is to buy some sweets !

So here is the dumb question of the day (especially for a second timer!): How does one play with a 2/3month old baby???
I do make faces for him, which he enjoys and giggles for about 10 min. He also will listen to a music box for 3min. But how do I fill the rest of the time he is awake? I think DS is starting to cry out of boredness!

hello !

playing - well I just chat to my ds, pull faces, make him smile. He's 8 weeks, so I've just got out a black and white book and some toys to go accross the pram.....but I think with a second one there's a lot more going on and a very interested toddler in my case. I try to get her to entertain him (a pattern for the future I hope.....) I think babies are fine as long as there are people around giving them attention and interest. Oh yeah, I bounce him on his legs so he tries to stand, have just started to do tummy stuff and have a baby gym. Hasten to add that this is all m oments not intense university training......

housework: yes, I hate it too, but I would be doing it even if I was working so I figure that I'm running around less in a kinda weird way though I hate having to keep kids amused whilst trying to get stuff done. Need childcare to run the house!!!!

well, I just went for a swim this morning!! Put both kids in the creche for an hour. Will be trying to do this once a week to get a break and start some kind of fitness. Dh and I plan to do some cycling on weekends at some point too. Can't become a potatoe like last time!!!

Hi Lua, the most I hope for with DS is a playgym or simlar hanging toys for him to stare at. I very rarely think to put him on his stomach.

Yes, I agree that it's difficult trying to actively "play" with such a small person. I must confess that I am a bad mummy and stick her in the bouncer in front of CBeebies from time to time. She doesn't sleep that much and it entertains her, although she will soon get square eyes I'm sure! DD has a baby gym, but she has to be in the mood, sometimes I think she is shouting at us to tell us to turn the d*mn thing off!!

Am so depressed about the weight gain ... am going to be healthy and continue doing exercise next time round ...

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Hello

Sorry, I haven't had much time for posting recently...husband went back to work, changed jobs and ended up working a crap shift pattern including a run of four night shifts an a row.

Yawn

Baby is lurvely, also enjoys baby gym. We got one of those baby einstein ones, no idea what the connection to einstein is, but she really loves the face on the inside - she talks to him as though he is real

sneaks in and tries to sit down quietly

Hello

Sorry, I haven't had much time for posting recently...husband went back to work, changed jobs and ended up working a crap shift pattern including a run of four night shifts an a row.

Yawn

Baby is lurvely, also enjoys baby gym. We got one of those baby einstein ones, no idea what the connection to einstein is, but she really loves the face on the inside - she talks to him as though he is real

Hello to all who deserted us over the lovely summer months If the weather is anything like it is here today I suspect you will soon be finding more time to devote to MN again.

Playing - we put ds down on the baby gym whenever he is awake a suitable interval after a feed (due to the threat of Vomit Fest 2005 if he's put down on his back after he's eaten). He appears to love it, kicks at the hanging toys with great gusto. This is also a good time, aided by a large number of towels, to give him some open air bot time, excellent for keeping the nappy rash at bay.

Other than that, we talk to him, pull faces (I try and pull the same face as he is making to me, which sometimes seems to freak him out), let him kick his legs sitting on our laps, and obviously watch TV with us, I think he finds that Madeleine Peyroux advert v calming, does anyone know the one I mean? For her new album. I might buy it if it's all mellow sounds like on the ad.

Re: tummy time, I don't give him much tummy time on the floor as it seems a bit cruel to leave him lying face down on his mat cos he can't push himself up more. He gets tummy time on the bed, though, and whilst draped on our shoulders (i.e. 90% of his life). Should I leave him on the mat to encourage him to push up? He doesn't seem keen.

Pink, were you waiting on exam results to arrive? Fingers crossed for you!

We went to 'life with baby' class yesterday, and when I say 'we' I mean I made dh come too as I still can't work the car seat on my own Charley, I now know why you leave it in the car all the time and use a separate stroller, what a bloody nightmare it is to get in and out. (I now know how to do it, thus have learnt more about the baby seat than I did about the baby in the stupid class. Hope next week might be a bit more enlightening).

Help Wanted

Hi everyone, I haven't posted in a long time, since the birth I think, or thereabouts. Computer time cut down a bit! Anyway I have been looking on the web for post-partum information and it's few and far between for this far on (7 weeks). Most of it has to do with immediately after the birth. So I am coming here in the hopes some of you may know what I am going through.

Normal birth, second child, everything seems fine, breastfeeding alright. Only complaint til now has been exhaustion but that's normal although that of course makes everything worse.

Now, 7 weeks on, I have a recurring tummyache, right around my belly button, that comes and goes. I also sometimes get the chills but not often. Today I just feel generally yuck. Also loose bowels. Is it a stomach bug? It's been going on a little long for that. I don't know. Should I wait until Tuesday for my postnatal check or go in earlier? How have all of you been?

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