June mummies 2 - the gangs all here!!

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one crisp new thread!

hi trib-its so easy to fall over things isn't it? i think that you try so hard not to,then these things happen.glad your'e both ok-it does shake you up though!

had to laugh earlier.i was changing oscar,(which now takes ages as i have to mind his head and now his leg!)and was trying to put the nappy back on,as it now has to go round the cast.i was really concentrating,thinking i was nearly done when he messed himself and it went all over the plaster.
im sure someone must be testing me-if i hadnt have laughed,i think i'd have cried.one of these days i'm going to have a nice peaceful day with no mishaps,i hope.

and the sweepstake winner is..........................

Bubbaloo

do you want a voucher or chocs?

wow...is it really me? how exciting!!!

i really don't mind a voucher or choccies-whatever is easier for you.
although i should really say voucher as the chocs won't help with the diet.

really katz-i'll leave it up to you,i don't mind.

Congratulations Bubbaloo! You definetely deserve a chocolate!
Sorry to hear about the plaster on Oscar. How long will he have to keep it? Good thing the weather has cooled down a bit.
TRib, what a scare! I have been so paranoid now everytime I am going up and down the stairs. But must actually clean the house of all kinds of junkl in the floor (believe me, we have plenty!)

I have been a bit happier in the last days. DS is sleeping a bit longer (no idea why! but won't complain..), and I have been having a series of errands to do. I think feeling home bound was taking my head in! I took DD and DS to the park this weekend and could only glance at what some of you are managing! I couldn't imagine doing it full time!

RHM - We have been putting DD and DS down at separate times, since DS don't have a bedtime as such yet. DH is the official bed time parent for DD, and I try to keep DS quiet meanwhile. So it hasn't been too bad yet. However, my plans are to at some point have DS take part on her bed routine (i.e take a bath and her her stories), so it can slowly became their routine, IYSWIM

either way i need an address! can you CAT it to me?

The pot stood at £9 but i will round it up to £10! if vouchers where for? if choc any pref?

morning,

hi lua-ds has to have the plaster changed every tuesday and the consultant thinks that maybe after about 3-4 it can come off.all depends really,so have to wait and see.

had a great night last night.ds went down at 11pm and didnt wake up till 6.30 this morning.lets see how long it lasts.

katz-i'll CAT you my address.i dont mind either boots,next,m&s or even mothercare vouchers.i really dont mind,thanks.
better pass on the chocs and stick to the diet.

Hi all,
RHM - re bedtimes I'm doing what Lua is. Tyring to give them a bath together and maybe a story and taking ds out of the situation if he's in a yelling mood. DH is also official bedtime parent for dd too. I think ds will eventually be quite a good sleeper - when he's stopped being such a new baby
He now seems to be feeding more often than before at nighttime which is hard going but I do feel like I'm starting to understand him a bit more - which is just lovely.
Hope everyone is doing ok
Love
Welshie

Hello June Mummies

I didn't find Mumsnet in time to join the june ante natal club, but have been lurking and wondered if you've got room for a late arrival? . Loving the virtual holiday idea - chuck a towel on a sunlounger for me!
DD, Daisy put in a very late arrival (are you sensing a theme here?) 13 days overdue on 22nd june. We are also working to the 'what routine?' routine, which is resulting in some great surprises - 6 hours unbroken sleep on tues night and some dissappointments - up at 2am and 6am last night .

Currently upholding what i gather is a great mumsnet tradition, typing one handed, with dd on the boob.

Finding much on your threads to laugh at/with and really good to know lots of others are in the same rudderless boat!

Mandymac

Welcome Mandymac, you are definitely a true Junie, with your little dd arriving on the same day as my ds, charley's ds (anyone heard from charley, btw?), RHM's ds and Coop's dd.

Always room for another arrival in our virtual holiday resort, perfect weather guaranteed I'm sure it must be time for Lua to be mixing up another batch of margaritas.

Having said that, I think we are off for our afternoon perambulation, i.e. to the pub. Cheers all!

evening/afternoon

welcome mummymac

well i've been charting our feeds/sleeps and wakeness and realised that dd2 isn't feeding constantly its just the time between feeds flies and shes sleeping more than i realised!!! but because i have dd1 i haven't noticed!!!

sorry mandymac not mummymac

is no-one having to put down 2 on their own????? Dh doesn't get in on time to do put down....

ANOTHER question - how are people settling babies for daytime naps? Ds started by going in his pram and just drifting off post feed, but now he's m ore alert he won't go down in his pram just cries and cries. Don't know if I should leave him or pick him up or what.....though am on my own from sat so won't have much choice I guess....would like to know what everyone else is doing though

welcome to mandy mac too

Thanks for the warm welcome.

KVG at being suspicious of babies good behaviour. Everytime we have a good night with her I think we will be punished with a bad one, not always the case, but was last night. Also, if dd sleeps a lot in day, I'm always in complete fear that a horrible night will follow, but no rhyme or reason to it apparently.

Can't remember which book, but V.good description of babies this age as being like the weather - sun one day does't mean rain tomorrow etc.

Quick question - anyone know if you can use gripe water & infacol together? Tried infacol for a few weeks, switched to gripe water and want to give infacol a try again, but wondered if we could keep on with the gripe water if dd has a particularly bad case of wind?

Hello you guys!

Have had a terrible week, what with the dishwasher breaking down (how did I ever cope with washing up every meal time? ), almost breaking my hand getting the old machine out, the car failing the mot first time round, and dealing with 3 babies...aged 8 weeks 3 years and 57 years (my mum!) So it's great to get on here and discover we're all having the same problems at least with the little ones

Welcome Mandymac and Daisy - it's never too late to join in

Lippy - instruction manual - pmsl - I'm still waiting for my first one to arrive from 3 years ago!

Lynny - he he he 'bad language' - you're speaking to the expert here! , unfortunately ds is fast becoming bi-lingual too - the other day dh nearly crashed his car when in answer to a question ds piped up '...oh ffs it's over there' as it's one of my phrases I was in the dog house for a short while

RHM - am very interested in the poss link between candida and colic - both ds and dd have had colic (ds very bad - 7 months until we switched him to soya) and I have candida albicans...tell me more...

Well have to agree with all others, dealing with 2 is very hard, and I find myself getting cross at ds for things that 8 weeks ago I found endearing, and sending him so many mixed messages about his behaviour - poor little sausage I'm sure it will be easier as dd gets older, and I can't wait for then, but also don't want to wish her early weeks away either!

Not in any routine as such, she's fallen nicely into a 3-4 hour routine which is great and on average we wake up twice in the night so not too bad but it'll be better when it's once or not at all

Have to go...dinner ready...will try and come back later, x

RHM, same problem here - ds just won't seem to settle and often ends up getting another bit of a feed to see if that will help. As he generally takes it and doesn't throw a lot of it back up, I'm assuming he is just having a growth spurt and thus hungrier. With our current ratio of two full-time parents to one wee baby he will often get to have his nap on someone's shoulder/lap and we get round it that way, but that's no good for the long term.

Mandy, I think you can use infacol and gripe water together, although the only time we tried, ds threw up in an Exorcist stylee, so gripe water has been banished from the routine for now.

KVG, excellent news on the weight gain! Well done Anouk.

My MIL came out with a classic this afternoon (as well as trying to wake the baby up when he was finally drifting off ). She came round with dh's niece and said to the baby "this is your one and only cousin". "Errr, apart from the NINE he has on my side of the family, you mean?" was my response. I knew I shouldn't have let the baby have dh's surname

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just a quickie as Ds v unsettled, I think he's not well - he's brought up about 3 feeds today. Am going to go to bed as soon as he settles have the feeling I'm in for a Night IYKWIM!!

Tea - candida. I had candida problems recognised a few years ago when I was having real problems with my joints. I went on the anti-candida diet and saw a dramatic improvement in my health. Anyway, I'm always suseptible to candida and pregnancy is a trigger for growth again. I had really terrible thrush this time around and suspect I passed it on to ds when he was born. That plus him being given anti-biotics (stripping his gut of any friendly bacteria as well as foe) makes me suspect candida is causing his windiness/colic.

I've done a bit of looking on the net, but haven't discovered more than a paragraph on babies, but they all make the connection with candida and colic.

I've been following the anti-candida diet (hard work...) to see if this will help him. I think its early days to say if it's working or not. At any rate the diet will keep me healthy!

Lynny - omg, poor you, glad to hear you are home, but how worrying...have they given any long term treatment suggestions? Good news about the gaviscon tho

RHM - thanks for that I'm bottle feeding tho so a change in my diet won't help dd very much But I was following a serious yeast free diet when I concieved ds - on various tablets too, which I still took until 8 weeks pg as I didn't know I was pg - and wasn't trying either ...wonder now if his lactose problems came from me not having any sugar in my diet (or very little) whilst pg ?? I haven't been as strict since I had ds, and dd isn't anywhere near as bad????? Hmmmn you have me thinking now...I will try and investigate further, although not sure how much good that will do dd at this stage!

Trib - glad you mentioned about the gripe water coz I've given it to dd today and yesterday and we've also had two monumental sick days...will try and give just the dentinox and see how that fairs. Cheeky mil btw, glad you got your tuppence worth in

Right off to bed now...RHM hope your night isn't as bad as you think

Morning all,
Lynny - really sorry to hear about your health problems, I hope you're bearing up - it really is the last thing you need.
Hello mandymac - yes you can use infacol and gripe together - not for the same feed but for alternate ones it's fine - or so I was told. We moved on to colief in the end but we did do the infacol/gripe for a week or so.
Tea - limited sympathy for your week as we don't have a dishwasher. I know what you mean about not being able to tolerate behaviour from the eldest that previously was endearing - I'm exactly the same. DD had her brother and her little cousin (aged1) here yesterday and she went totally hyper - insisting on doing dancing shows with very violent movements and there was so much 'No...be careful....be gentle...they're only babies....' I was sick of the sound of my own voice - but also fed up with her for 'playing up' She's not playing up though just wanting attention and why not? It's exactly what Angelina Ballerina does when her baby sister Polly arrives - maybe that's where she's got it from.
Roll on next week - we're off to Wales with MIL,FIL,SIL - so plenty of help and distraction to hand. Hurrah! (might even get to the pub)
On balance I think things are evening out a bit. Ds is getting more and more settled - is wonderfully jolly and smiley after a good sleep and a feed. He's waking up 2 times a night which I can deal with, the evening grumpiness is diminishing too - although he just wants to feed and sleep on me from 7pm until 10pm. I do try to put him down occasionally but he gets very unhappy about it so I've put it off until he's 3 months when I'll have a proper go. We're away for alot of August so there's no point in trying to impose a strict routine now anyway - and I don't want to. I must admit to being completely besotted with my little boy and really soft where's concerned [ smile]

Hi All, been off for a while (reasons in last message), so sorry if I miss something important out.

Trib, no party or celebration. Unless you count me having an extra big glass of beer last night . All done and dusted. DS is okay, a little grouchy, but nothing half as bad as I was expecting. Bless him though, I fed him at 9:30 last night and he slept through to 5:30, which I think is my best night so far!

Congrats Bubb on your win! I?m impressed with your ?no chocolate? willpower

Hi Mandymac! Glad you could join us. Always good to here (in the nicest possible way) that someone else is going for our ?What Routine? policy. I laugh to myself every time GF tells me that the baby should be awake for 2 hours until I put him down. I have yet to work out exactly how to keep a baby awake who is intend on a little nap, short of using red hot pokers . Still, it makes me love him even more.

Tea, lol at your DS?s colourful language. I?m trying to be careful already, but its SO hard!

Lynny, poor you! I?m glad to hear that your small silver lining is Jessica doing better.

I?ve just had DS?s 6 week scan. Everything is fine. Much to my astonishment, he is still on the 75th percentile for weight and 90th for height. 90th!!!!! I?m five foot! DH isn?t huge either, he?s only 5?10. How did that happen

Hello everyone

This may be my last post for a while before we go away tomorrow.

Bubbs, congrats on winning the sweepstake!!! You need a good night in front of the tv with chocs and chick flick, I recommend Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless mind. Sorry to hear about the plaster, poor baby, as othershave said, at least the hot weather is gone.

Sorry, I have to go , both children asleep and I need to rush around and pack before all hell breaks loose again!!!

Welcome, MandyMac, never too late to join!! welcome little Daisy too

Afternoon - at least i think it is. We have just had the second really trying night in a row, and i'm suffering . Last night fed DD from 10pm to 11pm and she wanted both boobs which is quite unusual. Then seemed to have awful wind and we couldn't settle her until about 12.15pm. Every time we put her in her moses basket, the wriggling, pulling legs up and crying started. She eventually settled after a little bit more of a feed. Fed again from 4am to 5am and again at 7. Then she slept until 10.30, but I just couldn't drop off again. She seems to be getting more windy/colicky in the past week (she's 6 weeks next weds). Any one else have this at this age Junies? If so, what helped? (Back on infacol as of yesterday).

Hi mandymac - I think most mums here have experienced this at around 5/6 weeks - it's pretty normal I think but flippin' hard work to deal with. I've tried alot of things and we've settled on colief as being the most effective - but all these babies are so different might not be best for you. It's a bit of a faff if you're bfing but I think it's worth it - and it won't be for much longer hopefully.
Good luck.
(might be worth reading back through the thread for more suggestions - I hope it's starting to ease up for most now - or heading that way - our ds is 9 weeks)