June mummies 2 - the gangs all here!!

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one crisp new thread!

Wow charley are you mad lol

lol on the other hand I did say no more babies after the rough time I had been pregnant. Although now we are thinking of another baby in a couple years time lol so I can understand how u feel.

( Already have 3 boys 16 18 and 20) lol and now william.

Talking of routine we havnt one here just go with flow so to speak. Although william likes a long nap in the afternoon.

Hi mojo hugsss

hello and welcome mojo
anyone going back to work soon? i probably will not have to until january, although i would prefer waiting till may.

anyone uses nasal aspirators? mine seems to be a bit congested

Hi All

Welcome Mojo. Sorry no advice re: colief, dd is on infacol, which frustratingly seems not to be working today, I've spent all day soothing her, as she has spent most of her time crying, arching her back etc, unless she is asleep - argh! .

Charleypops - you're brave, can't imagine doing this again at the moment, but everyone keeps telling me it gets easier, so maybe I will be persuaded, I do need to get a move on if I want another, as I am 38 already.

Tribpot - Didn't realise your ds was co-sleeping with dh. Not sure if I would relax, if dd was awake & dh asleep as my dh also seems to be able to sleep through quite a lot of her noises, although not full on crying.

RHM - DD is my first. We don't have a 'bedtime' routine as such, dd stays in what shes been wearing in the day as long as it is a) a sleepsuit and b) clean . I normally go up and get ready for bed, dh looks after dd and brings her up when she is pretty hungry, we always aim for 10pm at earliest, although not always possible! I feed her with lights low, but still light enough to read and put her down once she pops off the boob or is sleeping on it.

Blimey, lots of posts recently. I have been reading but too tired to post - I can just about cope with DS2 keeping me up at night but DS1 is poorly and is up a few times in the night as well so I'm worn out.

Welcome Mojo, the more the merrier on the June thread. No help in answering your question though, sorry.

Routine is a bit hit and miss here. DS2 goes to bed between 7-8 (or 10, as it was last night!), I try not to let him nap after about 5pm, and that's about it. He usually wakes every 3-4 hours in the night, and if at all possible I don't bother changing or winding him...it's usually just a quick feed then back to sleep.

Lua, no help on the mastitis but I really hope it clears up soon as it sounds agonising, and definitely not what you need after going through the pain of the early days.

Second-timers - I was talking to some friends who had their second babies a while ago, and both said that the bad behaviour of the oldest peaked at about 6 weeks and gradually got better after that, and I have to say that seems about right for DS1. He can still push me to the limit but he's not doing it quite as often as he was

Charleypops, did the 6 week check go ok?

RHM, great news about the kidneys, you must be so relieved.

Pink, how are things with you and DS?

Megi, hope you are ok.

Back to one=handed typing which is too bloody slow! Must go and wake DS1 or he won't sleep tonight so will be back later.

Mrs W, WE are having a very long peak at almost 12 weeks then. I'm gonna string my toddler out the window if she doesn't remember how to talk instead of wine to get her demands met.

I'm convinced God made toddlers irresistably cute to keep their parents from killing them.

Oh yes, dinner is still our favourite time of day. Can you tell??????

hi mojo-welcome to the junies.no experience on colief so cant help there,im afraid.

charley-we're also thinking about another baby.infact,we had our 6 week check today and when my doctor asked what contraception we're using and i sadi none,he was rather shocked!
ds took 7 years to arrive so thought we better start straight away with the next-ha ha!!

we also havent that much of a routine,except ds has his last feed 10.30ish and sleeps right through till about 7am.there's no routine during the day at all.
re:nappy changes,ds screams everytime he does a wee so we're forever changing him.funny thing is he doesnt scream when he's done the other!

Again Mojo welcome - we are using Dentinox (that's colief, yes?) I think I would post in Breast and Bottle Feeding to get a wider viewpoint - not that you aren't welcome here on our June thread, of course you are! But not everyone on Mumsnet has time to read our fascinating ramblings, so you may get more responses to a specific question there.

Charley, I haven't mentioned this before in terms of "people called Arlo" but my friend Louise's 'stripper name' is Ar-lo for reasons which are far too complicated to go into here Glad I reassured you re: feeding - I don't worry about that with Toby as he is putting on weight nicely and seems to feed as much as he wants, so that's all good. Although weirdly, I have had a few dreams about my poor little (adopted) niece, who wasn't fed properly by her (drunken) birth mother. It really preys on my mind just now that anyone wouldn't feed their newborn properly, I'm not sure why.

I was asked about contraception at my six week appointment, but it was nightmare GP - she acted as if I was insane saying I didn't really like the pill. To be honest, I like knowing when I'm ovulating, (and dh normally responds to that as well - if you know what I mean! Mostly he knows I'm ovulating before I do) and I don't like the way the pill interferes with one's fertility. I'm planning to have number 2 in two years' time (although cannot quite believe I am really prepared to go through pregnancy and labour a second time) but would like to avoid a summer delivery after this summer has been either too bloody hot or rather crappy and cloudy. March 2007 is my favoured month for bean number 2

sfx - I'm back to work in December. Part-time initially, which is good.

evening all

welcome mojo

well DD2 still wont take a bottle but i'm going to my friends leaving do at the spa anyway (i'm a bad mummy). i will feed her before i go and hopefully she will last the 1½-2 hr i will be away if not H will have to ring the spa to get me to come home early!!

not long now until we go on hols yeah!

DD2 is till doing well with her sleeping, (whispers under her breath) last night she went down at 9pm woke at 3 for 5 min feed and then slept til 8.30!! and the big plus was all that sleeping was in her crib too!! wohoo

Lol - Lua - he is a fantastic baby - but the fact that he appears to have developed some kind of colicky disposition every evening makes me want to get babies out of the way all the more!! Apart from that though (oh, and the feeding him 3 or 4 times in the night) he's great! Yep - I have the old jelly belly thing too - can't fit in any of my old clothes at all still. It's great to hear you're in good shape seeing how you say you didn't get back into shape in between your babies - maybe I should use this opportunity to stuff myself with CHOC Good luck with the mastitis - not suffered myself, but whilst I was (trying) to bf, my HV told that if ever I got it, then the baby would clear it for me (yuk)! Why not have a look on Archives - I bet there's loads of advice.

Mojo - forgot to ask, does Colief work for you? I'm getting desperate....

Lol Uwila! It's quite scary the amount of research I will have to do to find the perfect double buggy! Good luck with your new nanny. Wish I had one for the nights - can you get night nannies??

EYM - wow! all those grown up boys! You must've been about 10 or something when you started Bet you're secretly wanting a little girlie to play with??

Mandy - I'm not sure if the Infacol is woking for us either. Might try Dentinox. I read that if baby is arching his back is could be reflux, so I'm using Infant Gaviscon too. Nightmare isn't it? I'll be 36 in Feb so think I should get a move on too. Even though your 30's are the new 20's I'm impressed that you're managing to read - I'm so missing that - just can't have the lights on with baby in the same room lest he wakes up. Aiming to get him into his own room at 6 months latest.

MrsW - 6 week development check went absolutely great - thanks for asking The Dr said he seems to be a completely normal baby!! Got the appt with the consultant on Thursday and I'm keeping everything crossed that he'll say the same thing.

Bubbs I'm so of you having a ds that sleeps from 10.30 to 7 at 6 weeks old - how do you do it? Does that mean you're not knackered?? how much does he weigh and how much does he eat????? It's also very handy of him to let you know he's doing a wee - you'll probably have him potty trained by 8 months or something!

TRIB! ROFL at your friend's stage name - my mind is boggling I'm not suprised you're preoccupied about your niece's birth mother not feeding her properly. I mean - how can people not do that? They must be really f*ed up . Things like that that I might see on the tv or read about or something stay with me too so it must be 100 times worse for you having this little girl in your family. Thanks goodness her and her brother found you all Lol about your dh and your ovulation - he's obviously not that poorly I'm not taking any contraception either and am not likely to. Not been asked about it though.

Katz - hope her sleep last night is the beginning of a new habit for her. of your spa thing.

Hi All
Hope you remember me. I don't know where you all find the time to post, well done for keeping up apperances.

mini Cooper keeps me very busy, to be honest i'm not finding it much easier yet, he still wants feeds evey two hours sometimes, except when we get a blissful 5 hours sleep at night.
I have desperately been trying to get back some time to myself, have started learning german, and started new mosaic project. We do need to have some time to ourselves don't we?

LOL charley and trib about having another some days i also think should have another soon and get all the hard stuff over and done with, while other days i think can i really do this x 2????

Can't believe i ever wanted twins once!!!!

bye for now

charley-best of luck for your appointment on thursday.
we had our 6 week check yesterday(although ds is 7 wks!)and was told that he looks and acts like a 12 week old.he is very long but obviously couldnt be measured yesterday as the casts are still on,and he weighs around 12lb7oz without them.he has 5 or 6 bottles a day,each with approx 6 1/2oz in them.I did find in the first few weeks i was really tired but must admit i feel absolutely fine now.

Uki-welcome back.

Mojo - I answered your colief q on the other thread but just in case you miss it - and for Charley too. We had ds on it from aboutt 7 to 10 weeks and I think it did make a difference - we tried infacol and gripe water too before that. He's getting better every day now with the old wind/knees up stuff so he's off the colief - it wasn't a big deal taking him off it either. Hope that helps.
Katz - well done on the sleep front - and in the crib too - fab. Ds is still on a mattress alongside me but he's getting more active and will roll off one of these days. He's also really good at making his way off his mattress and over to me if he wants food/company - I woke up in the night with him tapping both my bosoms with his little fists! I think we'll bring his big cot into our room soon and start putting him in there before he's banished forever into his own room. I've got an evening problem too - ds will eventually conk out after feeding at about 8.30pm - but only sleep if he's on me until bedtime at 10pm aaaargh I really am going to have to deal with this one.
It's just one thing after another - and I can't face any of them if I'm knackered - hey ho mummydom

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Morning All

Lynny - Poor you! DD has just had a rash on her face and although it didn't seem to hurt, I felt bad not being able to do anything about it. She is having a bad few days and really crying with what looks like bad trapped wind, - back arching etc, so I'm going to try Dentinox now. Can't believe you are hosting lunches already! Amazing - most I can manage is dinner for me and dh.

Welshmum - Did you put DS onto Colief because Infacol & Gripe Water seemed to have stopped working? dd is now just about 7 weeks and screaming more with wind etc.

Charleypops - Do you have to get infant gaviscon from GP, or can you get over the counter. I'm surprised dd didn't pop out addicted to the stuff with the amount of huge bottles I got through whilst pregnant .

As you can see its all questions, questions with me this morning following heinous day yesterday. Having said that night wasn't too bad and she slept from 11pm to 4pm straight and then got about another 3 hours in a few bits - 8 hours sleep, yay! .

How you all doing today?

to lynnye
pat yourself in the back, nevermind the know it all brigade. its hard and you get on.
i have worked with people who have autism for years and hats off to parents really, this must be a confusing time for her. and as i am learning bew babies are never easy
take care

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Lynny - my dd had a nasty crusty spotty rash thing all over her face too - she looked like she had plague. It came on at about 7 weeks and lasted about a month - went on it's own and I think it was mostly a reaction to her getting formula as well as bf milk. Don't know if that helps ??! And you rant away - we all need to rant - you sound like you're doing fab against great odds and well done you.
mandymac - yes - the infacol/gripe didn't seem to help much after a while....

Lynny - your poor wee dd - you sound to me like the most competent and sane person! Personally I think the 'PND' label seems to be liberally used to describe up everything we go through after birth - sleep deprivation/stress/different dynamics in your relationship with dh, not to mention all the worrying a newborn brings. I can also empathise with the HV talking crap and avoiding the issues that really matter - my first one moaned about her hay fever for the whole visit - I had to fight to get a word in about dd!

Well - I've put dd on cold turkey with the colief and she was bad last night and this morning with her colic. And it breaks my heart to see her back arched and hear her painful cries, so I'm really tempted to put her back on it, despite my concerns about long term use of it..and yes Charley, I do find it almost cures the colic, not 100%, but defo more than Infacol or Gripe water.

Bubbs - glad you're all doing so well - I imagine those casts could drive other babies mad (therefore their parents).

Welshie - Thanks for the advice re the Colief. I'll get some today. Is it the same stuff as Dentinox? I'll ask the pharmacist.

Lynny - how infuriating some of those comments must be for you! Especially "everytime I see her she doesn't look any bigger"!! My dp's brother had really really really bad eczema/cradle cap all over his head when he was a tiny baby too - it would bleed and seep etc. Not pretty. His mum used to dread going to the clinic because she'd get (much worse) comments like that too. Funny thing was, it cleared up on its own practically overnight (that's how she remembers it) after just a few days. Btw (not that this applies to you), he was also an incredibly sickly child with one thing or another - they could never go on holiday for instance, but he grew into an incredibly strong, solid and athletic man and has a great career. Sounds like you're doing great and have everything in perspective - esp with your HV

Mandy - I'm not sure - you might be able to buy Infant Gaviscon over the counter, mine was prescribed. Don't think it's working now though - just seems to make his poo harder I'm dreading the evening already...

Hello all
Welcome to you Mojo. I can't help sorry. Hope you get an answer you are happy with.
Charley - Dd1 is very funny trying to feed dd2. She gets the feeding pillow and lifts her top up and points to her nipples saying milk milk for Harret. Wow on you wanting another so soon. I knew I wanted another but found it very hard with dd1 at times and would just tell myself this will be easier next time round i.e. feeding, nappy changes etc and it really is. The worries are still there in a way but they are about completely different issues. I am enjoying dd2 in a completely different way. I didn't get my figure/fitness back inbetween babies as I was too lazy and regretted it during my pregnancy, however I don't regret it now I have had the baby as overall I reckon I still have a stone to lose to be my pre dd1 weight and don't think this would be any less had I lst it in between. I would say weight isn't an issue, but fitness is. HTH a bit.
Lua - The offer still stands for the book. I have been getting emails while I have been away so it is odd that yours have been bounced. I do have an alternative hotmail account that I had to open as Amazon could not email me for some reason. I will change the address in my profile so try cating me your address later on today. I hope you will find it useful. It is great for some babies without a doubt. I am certainly able to get to the Post Office for you and definately no busier than anyone else . Hope your mastitis is resolved. Sorry I have no real experience to offer. Have you flu symtoms too? If so this could be mastitis and if not praps a blocked duct. I heard to feed on through it too and massage at the same time. Good Luck.
Wlshie - Aww at your ds beating your breasts in the night.
Uwila - Glad the Nanny is good. How are you feeling about going back to work? All prepared?
SFX - Hi, sorry cant help on the nasal thing.
Mrs W - Hope ds1 is better soon. That is the sort of situation I am dreading....
Kat - Enjoy the spa, how great!
Hi Uki - Glad you are getting some me time. It is great for perspective, and yes this whole mum thing is HARD. Take care.
Bubb - I had dd weighed today and she is now 12lb3 (7 wks old tomorrow). My tiny newborn is well gone. She is long too. How long are the casts to stay on ds for? Glad you are OK and thinking of another too .
Talking of contraception I am thinking of having the mirena coil fitted. Has anyone any experience with this good or bad?
Lynny - So glad you ranted on here..... PND is a hard one to diagnose but I sometimes feel the HV's are totally paranoid about it when there are other issues that if were resolved would make you feel better. You are a star with what you cope with day to day before you had a new baby let alone now. Don't forget that. I really admire you. Keep posting. I find it really good to get things off my chest on here. Helps a bit with perspective for me. I think you have everything well in perspective though.
Our RAF cot arrived today so now needs putting together. Not a moment to soon either as dd is practically out of her basket and doesn't seem to settle in there. It isn't helped by the loud creaking from the stand that wakes her up everytime we try to put her in there.
Dd2 still has a crusty spotty face but it is def better than it was now we are getting used to the heat. The aqueas cream is def the key along with some Weleda baby oil and moisturing cream.
Toilet training is not happening at all so far. We have just had accidents for the past two days and so I think I will put it on hold for another couple of weeks. The novelty of the sticker chart lasted a day ..... I am off to search the archives for hints for when we try again.
Bye for now.

lynny awww hope u feel better soon hunny hugssssss

I too have a boy who has aspergas syndrome he shows autistic trates and i know how hard it was as he was growing up as he is now 18 and attending college and doing really well with himself and he doesnt know how to react to william which is a shame but he is happy and thats the main thing.

So good luck hunny im afraid u just have to perserve with your little girl, and im sure u will find a way of coping.

Its great that u can rant and rave and u have all our sympathy xxxxxxxxx

Charley yes id love alittle girl lol prob wont get one though.

William had a bad nite last nite i couldnt seem to fill him up sometimes my breast feeding just isnt enough have any of you found this problem?

chat later xxxxxxx have a great afternoon junies

regarding nasal thing, works for me dd has nasty cold making feeding and sleeping a problem,she hates it when i use it but is much calmer straight after. still hate to see her squirm and cry

Charley - I think colief is different from Dentinox - although that's the only thing I haven't tried! it's more expensive - a tenner for a small bottle, but I reckon I'd have paid 10 times that for a quiet evening. Good luck with it sweetie - it's such hard going at times.
Coop - I lost the weight between pgs but didn't get fit either. Now I'm almost back to the pre pg weight (half a stone left) but need to get going on the fitness. I've started by buildng up how much I walk every day. This is helped by the fact that the nice bit of Islington is about 30 mins walk - so if I want to find a nice caf I have to yomp down there.
The toilet training is pretty hard work - dd had plenty of accidents along the way - my sympathies to you trying to do that too.
I've got so hung up about ds' lack of routine/wandering into our bed/sleeping on me in the evening etc I've decided that once our holidays are over and if our collective bad habits are continuing I'm going to see a 'sleep counsellor' She's been reccommended by 2 seperate mates - I can't bear to get to 6 months with everything arse about tit. I hopefully won't need it but I want to have a plan just in case. Do you ladies think I'm barmy??

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Coop - I'm sure I saw a thread on here not too long ago about the Mirena coil. I don't think I'll bother trying too hard to lose the weight until after my 2nd, but I'm not going to pig out and I'll make sure I do a bit of gentle exercise.

Welshie - I have just sent dp out for Dentinox, so I'll keep my fingers crossed for this evening. I decided not to go out today at all and just keep Arlo calm and quiet with very gentle stimulation to see if that improves things. I keep reading that colic can be caused by sensory overload. Just in case it is colic and not reflux. Well done for nearly reaching your pre pg weight!

Lynny - my form was asking about how you felt during just the last week, maybe yours was the same? in which case you could ask to fill in another a week later?