Discussion amongst Mums with babies born in December 2008

[Veggiemummy]

Hope you all can find it, Moms title was perfect I thought.

Another truly apalling night for us as well. I worked out that I have had 12 hours sleep in total since Sunday night. That is definitely not healthy.

Daisy Come back soon, you will be missed!

DorasBackpack lovely to hear from someone with a similar high maintenance child! Do keep posting please! Do you like me look longingly at children in pushchairs who are just sitting there taking in the world and think "why can't MINE do that??". DD won't be happy for 2 seconds in the pushchair if we stop. She wants a decent pace please, or get me out of there!

JollyB - No, DD's never been interested in the soft toys/comforters we've offered her or left in her cot. Far prefers playing with my iPhone....

tortoiseonthehalfshell our lives do sound similar! I'm at work 4 days a week too and that's currently saving my sanity - so much more restful than a day of DD! You could be right about the developmental leap though - it's hard to tell with her if she's near to walking because she's so stubborn she has to do everything herself - she won't walk holding my hands, so I expect that one day she'll just do it, without warning...

Oh dear kiwi that sounds awful on the sleep front. I hope it improves soon.

daisy I hope you can come back soon and your DH gets over it quickly!

I am grumpy as it's my day off and the playgroup we usually go to was full. I want to get out of the house as our house is now on the market (hurrah), and DS keeps messing it up. But alas not to be. I will put up a link to rightmove in a couple of days when everything has definitely died down!! A bit paranoid at the moment that there may be lots of people lurking on our thread (not that I really mind lurking that much, it's just I feel there might be lots of people just looking for a bit of gossip and I just want to wait until those people are convinced our thread is boring again and go away! Hopefully they are already)

katie fab on the house. Not so fab on the virus and lack of sleep, get well soon. I laughed at the [green] too. Also I agreed with the content of your rant, though that's all I will say on the subject

Oh finally I have a property question, so DH and I saw a house we were quite interested in, it has come back on the market after being off the market for about a month after an offer was accepted. Estate agent tells us it is cos buyer was faffing around and hadn't even had survey done. Our estate agent (the one our house is with) tells us that they did have a survey done and that as a result of it the buyer was trying to drop the price. Sigh. Why don't the estate agents just tell you these things, if it is something bad the same thing will only keep on happenening when other people get surveys done, if it's something small and the buyers were chancing it then we can make our own mind up. Such a pile of bullshit.

Anyway, question is:
Do I try and ring up previous buyers surveyor and get info out of him (suspect this is totally confidential so won't have much luck)
Do I call the estate agent the property is on with and just say that we know there was a survey done, just bloody tell us what the problem was.
Do I ask our estate agent if he can do more digging??
Also I don't know what the offer was. Estate agent won't tell us.

Summer, in my limited experience, I'd say call the Estate Agent that the house is on with and try to get an answer out of them, what have you got to lose? I doubt surveyor would give you the info, except if you offered payment of course. You could also getyouragent to do some digging at the same time. I agree, if it's a problem, surveys will keep coming back with the same thing, so best to be honest about it from the start. Hope that helps.

I am just worried about getting our estate agent in trouble with the one the house is on with (they are practically next door to each other, don't want to start a feud!) as I am sure that they will guess that it is our estate agent that has given us the inside info.

Summer: I would ask the agent but not nec trust what he said. If you do go for it, obv ask for a thorough survey and not just a valuation one.

Daisy: sorry you feel you have to go. I hope you have plenty of rl support atm. It's early days for your dh's grief and you may have plenty to deal with in the next few months. Keep looking after yourself.

Nice to see you Kayz. Lol at WW3 - it wasn't me, miss! (much). We promise to behave from now on.

Oh yes, I meant to say, hello Kayz, glad you are relatively ok - that DVD is in an envelope at my desk at work so will go in the post tomorrow!

See, I have no clue whether our milk is recommended - but it's full fat, it's milk, it's got calcium and things in it, so I just assume it's fine. It's a different brand, too, mine is called Zymil or something.

Veggie, I am flattered you remember me at all! I think I posted about three times on the 'Tits' End' thread and then gave up because you're all so chatty.

Rhubarb would like to leave a parting message to you all. She says she is sorry if you felt she was having a go at your thread and yourselves. She thought the thread she started was lighthearted but can now see that some were offended by it. She apologised here and on the other thread and it all ended nicely, she decided to leave when others stirred it up after her apologies and said very nasty things about her and her personality. She is having a bad time at the moment and just felt very persecuted.

She wants to say that none of you ladies were behind her reasons for leaving and that she wishes you all well. She now hopes that the discussion about what she may or may not have said/done can come to an end.

Ok, thank you. And hopefully that's an end to people barging into our thread, as it is upsetting people. (I don't mean people who want to join us, obviously).

Amen to that.
Summer, don't worry about getting your agent in trouble, they have their own rules!

Am trying not to post as much today as I need to get my work done today and tomorrow but just wanted to say, in a breathless voice,

Hello to Kayz! Good to see you back and I hope you are coping as well as you can under current difficult circs.

Katie - three cheers for the house! That is super news. I hope your folks are really happy there

Summer - we were beaten in a bidding war on our house, then the 'winning' buyers dropped out as they wanted £50k off what they'd offered after seeing the survey. The work needing to be done was nowhere near this. The estate agent selling the property was really straight with us about what she had gleaned the problems were (though she hadn't seen the survey) and when we got our survey, she had been telling the truth. We weren't worried about what the house needed so all was well (the orignal buyers then came back and tried to gazump us, after realising they had made a terrible mistake, but satisfyingly were told to sling their hook). Anyway, that's just one of my Ronnie Corbett-style anecdotes. I would say, go to the estate agents who are selling, say that actually you had heard there was a survey done, and could he give you a vague indication of the problem as it probably won't put you off (lie, until you get your own survey done) and see what he says...

Will be on here properly later.

Hello everyone,

MrsWatson Thanks for the message. Hope Rhubarb is OK and I'm sure the whole thing will be forgotton soon enough.

daisy I'm so sorry that your DH has got hold of the wrong end of the stick. It is rather naughty of him to look at your posts though. Your post said you had no feelings, why can that be considered cheating. Hope you are back soon.

SL I know what you mean about lurkers. We are just a little group chatting and not at all interesting in the wider MN context.

trace Hope you are OK. Are you upset about things feeling more public on here? It is a bit unsettling but will pass. Please pop in soon and let us know how you are.

ladyT Re your book. I know it is a different sort of writing but when my thesis was complete it was read by a member of my dept for my mock viva. He was really encouraging and my mock viva went really well. The actual viva was hideous and the worst thing I have ever experienced. I was questioned on aspects which were not significant to the overall argument and although I passed I was almost in tears at the end. Anyhoooo, my point is that another reader might have a different take on the book and if you feel strongly about it then perhaps it would be worth letting someone else have a look.

Hello kayz Nice to see you back. I'm not on FB so have missed you.

kiwi Not having a comforter may not be too bad a thing. DD drags her rabbit all over the place. It is useful at sleeptime though.

Kayz - sorry I didn't see you posted earlier until just now. Thanks for popping in - we were all a bit worried.

Rhubarb / MrsWatson - apology accepted - I just stumbled on that twi something thread which I hadn't read the other day!! And whoa!! - nuff said!

Summer I know what you mean. I really do think there are loads more lurkers on a permanant basis though, and when we really "feel" like it's all back to normal there are tons of eyes out there - however, I'm sure most of them are friendly one's as the antagonistic one's wouldn not be able to keep quiet iykwim

Veggie - I have tomato plants that are on my window sill and growing about 2 inches a day!!!! Aahhhh I don't know what I'm spose to do with them! They are going to be too big for the pot soon but it's too cold to plant them outside yet right? Do they normally grow this fast? Or am I just brilliantly green thumbed - doubt It's the latter...

MrsWatson - please pass Rhubarb best wishes (at least from me). Obviously people disagree, but I don't think anyone would want to cause genuine upset over this kind of thing. I hope whatever hard times she is having in RL pass quickly.

katie - hooray for the house!

SL - for what its worth, I'd say no harm trying to get to the bottom of the story with the house, most likely through the seller's estate agent, but you probably won't find out much that will make things clearer for you unless and until you do your own survey. You don't need to drop your agent in it either - if your area is anything like mine, its amazing what local gossip can do - I found out the house next door to us was for sale when I started chatting to a lady in a coffee shop who had been for a viewing...

Kiwi - sorry for the hopeless nights. I don't know if your DD is anything like mine, but with her, we got to a stage where trying to comfort her at night just made things worse, as by picking her up, cuddling her etc, we weren't letting her sleep, which is what she needed to do. I agree the lack of a comforter is a PITA. DS has one, and all you need to do is chuck it in with him in his cot and he chews on it and goes to sleep. DD doesn't and getting her to settle has always been much harder.

Kayz - good to see you on. Totally understand having less time - good luck with everything and hope you get a chance to pop in at least sometimes.

Hello again

Just wanted to attempt a rhythm of posting in an attempt to move out of the shadows! Realise you all know each other well, so just wanted to give a very quick bit about me, just so you 'know' who I am , if that is OK?

Anyway, I am based in the south east (but will always be a northern girl at heart and would move back 'home' in a heartbeat if we could get jobs there!), have 2 little girls, work 1.5 days a week, am a bit of a pessimist (hence the 18 month age gap 'it will probably take ages....'!), wish I was a bit more patient and have recently accepted that they thing I like least about myself (being a bit slapdash!) is probably my greatest asset as someone trying to be both a SAHM and WOHM at the same time

Did a bit of BF for a few months both times but don't like it much (wish I did and reallyu admire people who keep going) - try to do the right thing for the girls, but am a bit of a worrier so tend to second guess myself a lot (although have immense faith in my own gut instinct?!)

Hmmm, I look like a bit of an oddity I think but just thought it was a bit rude to step in and not let you know a bit about who I was!

Kiwi - yea, I generally look at the other second babies sitting happily in their buggies watching their siblings, whilst mine squeals, tries to escape and usually ends up with some kind of freak injury and quietly despair!

Kiwi 'yes' not 'yea'!

Afternoon ladies.

I have DS1's little lady friend here to play this afternoon, wow girls can really scream can't they. I've also had a nice bit of exercise today. I decided to walk over to pick them up because I thought a 5, 4 & 1 year old might be a bit much to cycle home on the bike & trailer. However, as I was trying to do a quick cursory tidy of the house (you know the sort that makes the house look like it was just messed up today) and flew around tidying and dressing DS2 so was running a bit late for the pick up. I practically ran the whole way with poor DS2 hanging on for dear life in the pushchair then got to the gate 3 mins late only to find no one there and the gates locked!!! I was a bit like what's going on? It was then that i realised I was a whole 57 mins early! Bugger! So I spent the next 56 mins wandering around trying to kill time. Luckily his school is just off a very nice shopping street.

Oh dear I think it might be time for cbeebies.

Oh & Hello to Mrs Watson I saw one of her posts on the Twi thread. Thank you for dropping in but I think we are feeling a bit like we want our cosy little thread back now so unless you intend to post or seek advice for relevant stuff please be respectful. We are a local thread for local people.

Whereabouts in the SE are you Dora? There are a few of us living/working in London and we've managed some meet-ups - no axe murderers among us that I can spot.

Oh sorry that last paragraph wasn't actually aimed at Mrs Watson is was just any rubberneckers.

Oh and tortoise I think it's mainly not recommended because it's not got much fat in it and the little 'ens need more fats an all that. I did have a friends kids recommended it by a GP when he turned his nose up at other milk alternatives and they were desperate to find something to put in his cereal

Ladies - I lost you all as was trying to bookmark and find you! Am in throws of holiday and staying with parents - v nice. They're looking after DD at moment! Don't have time to catch up, but tried to follow the link to the people being mean about our title and I can't access it!

Anyway - will do a big catch up when I can - am down here for another day, so will probably be next week - DH off skiing on Sunday - sob!

Big big love. DD has taken her first few steps - yay! Although it's literally 3 or 4!

Will do personals when I can.

xxxx

Hooray for steps Beans & invis (though secretly I pity you and soon you will know why).

Rubs I was thinking about what you said about Kayz and you bring more upset by that than p-diddy and it made me think am I upset by it, I'm concerned for Kayz esp her getting shattered with all the work but I'm nor upset and I wondered why? Then I realised, I keep assuming they will get back together and it will all be fine. How bizarre us that? I remember thinking the same when my DB and SIL broke up, i got such a shock when I found out he had a girlfriend! I think more out of the sudden realisation that they would never get back together than the existence of this other women (now my new SIL I must remember to stop calling her other women, could get awkward). What am I going to do when Kayz starts seeing other people. How will I cope? >veggie sits down in a corner and starts rocking

I am shattered!!!

XH has had the boys today so I've been to Bridlington with my brother. Its was freezing but fun to run about on the beach!

Oh and Kayz to recapp very briefly

Daisy can't come and play anymore cos her DH won't let her because she saw an ex thought he looked reasonable but was pleased to find she didn't find him attractive- apparently this is bad. But you need to take into account recent bereavement etc.

Kiwi went to Budapest and found that babies and short breaks don't mix.

I am just about to go on a short break to Bruges and then Budapest next month.

A lady started a thread about thread titles and said they were cheesy, our title was named & shamed along with another. Some words were said some people were stalked (allegedly). It got a little nasty but apologies were made accepted messages & an entire thread were deleted and someone walked.

On the upside we got Tortoise back and gained Dorasbackpack and i was reunited with my friend Skihorse who we are trying to entice into our thread. The downside is some of us feel a little like our haven has been breached and we have lost Trace but only for a few days hopefully ( can you come
back now trace).

Kiwi & Spot have cows milk ishoos which may maynot be solved with lactose free milk and dutch cheese.

Katie has bought a house with her parents money.

Summer is trying to sell her house.

Effie got a black eye.

Lady has book ishoos but a perfectly sculpted eyebrow.

I think Spots book is finished.

KB's dog pooed in Turnips DDS room, but it's ok cos she liked her on Strictly

KW & SM broke up.

And finally Ali G's real name is Alistair Graham!

Did I miss anything?

Oh and Kayz to recapp very briefly

Daisy can't come and play anymore cos her DH won't let her because she saw an ex thought he looked reasonable but was pleased to find she didn't find him attractive- apparently this is bad. But you need to take into account recent bereavement etc.

Kiwi went to Budapest and found that babies and short breaks don't mix.

I am just about to go on a short break to Bruges and then Budapest next month.

A lady started a thread about thread titles and said they were cheesy, our title was named & shamed along with another. Some words were said some people were stalked (allegedly). It got a little nasty but apologies were made accepted messages & an entire thread were deleted and someone walked.

On the upside we got Tortoise back and gained Dorasbackpack and i was reunited with my friend Skihorse who we are trying to entice into our thread. The downside is some of us feel a little like our haven has been breached and we have lost Trace but only for a few days hopefully ( can you come
back now trace).

Kiwi & Spot have cows milk ishoos which may maynot be solved with lactose free milk and dutch cheese.

Katie has bought a house with her parents money.

Summer is trying to sell her house.

Effie got a black eye.

Lady has book ishoos but a perfectly sculpted eyebrow.

I think Spots book is finished.

KB's dog pooed in Turnips DDS room, but it's ok cos she liked her on Strictly

KW & SM broke up.

And finally Ali G's real name is Alistair Graham!

Did I miss anything?