Discussion amongst Mums with babies born in December 2008

[Veggiemummy]

Hope you all can find it, Moms title was perfect I thought.

You too WG and very excited about what you
just posted on FB

hello all

Sorry for silence having randomly appeared - i was away on holidays and have a general burglar-related paranoia of posting it online (ridiculous I know but don't even put it on FB).

Anyway, am back now and just wanted to respond to a belated question from Veggie about coffee breaks - I work 1.5 days a week (slightly odd but works for us all ) so am generally around for coffees in the mornings!

We are having a difficult time here, as my FIL has just been diagnosed with very advanced cancer. They live abroad so the logistics of going backwards and forwards are quite complex and it is all just so, so sad.

On a lighter note - Katie - spray in conditioner is a brilliant idea. My girls both have curly hair but DD2 has a tendency to look like a crazy puppy first thing n the morning (we actually bought her the Build-a-Bear Scruffy Puppy because it reminded me of her so much ) but I had never thought of spraying something in to take the edge off the frizz - brilliant!

Night night

The pox has returned - ds2 def has it now . Dh
rang while I was on the train - have a meeting today but will have to take another day off tomorrow. Thankfully my boss has been really helpful.

Dora: good to see you. I reckon you're v sensible on the holiday thing. It's a bit scary how much info you cam piece together online.

Jam Nope Pingu and I are two entirely separate black and white creatures . And I don't work in mags, at a newspaper. Or rather online. Details available via Facebook

Had a terrible night last night, DD awake and roaring at 11pm and wouldn't go back down until she'd had lots of daddy snuggles and watched her favourite programme with him downstairs. She was very annoyed with me this morning too, it was all about Daddy! Gave me several pointedly filthy looks. Clearly saying "Bah, you think you're going to get cuddles from me when you couldn't even be arsed to get out of bed and watch Something Special with me and Daddy? In your dreams!"

No idea what's up with her, still very grumpy but no temperature or obvious signs of teething so she's been packed off to nursery. Hmm.

Dora I used to go mental at DH when he would tell the minicab driver where and for how long we were going on holiday. There have been loads of stories of places burgled when people are away. Another thing they do is steal cars from the longterm airport carpark and press home on the satnav.

DS2 was awake between 4.30-6.30 this morning I'm so shattered. I'm going around to an Aussie & NZ womens club coffie morning, it's at one of the members houses who lives about 15 mins walk from me so I'm hoping DS2 will fall asleep on the way over so I can have a quiet coffee or tea. I've not met this lady yet so I don't know if she serves instant. As a precaution I've already had a coffee so I've had adequate caffiene and will have a tea if she does instant.

Someone asked ages ago about teeth brushing. I'm a bit of the belief that it's best to let them get on with it themselves if you can even if it's just chewing the toothbrush. Both boys started off with those baby toothbrushes that you chew on. With DS1 we always brushed with him so he felt like he was doing something we do, with DS2 he brushes with his brother. We are yet to see how it pans out with DS2 but DS1 is great at brushing his teeth we never had to hold him down to brush so hopefully he never had a bad experience of toothbrushing. When he transferred to the bigger toothbrush we used to say 'you brush first then mummy/daddy will finish off' so he would brush for about a minute then we would finish off. Now he brushes himself with his little rechargable electric toothbrush. His teeth are fine, the dentist was happy with them, but, & I know this is controversial, if getting him to happily brush independantly meant he might not brush as well and get tooth decay I figured it was ok as it's just his first set of teeth and would be grow some more. I know that naughty.

Hi Kiwi, I've are you working today? Hope it's not too painful. I'm with you on the fatigue.

Jam kiwi is a fairly recent addition to the thread, though not that recent any more. I have met her, in fact so has Pingu. However, she is neither a kiwi, or a panda. She is lovely though and has a gorgeous DD.

Right better go.

Sorry about the pox Effie.

Am I the only one who doesn't use a change bag? I've always just chucked a couple of nappies wipes & my travel changemat (or small bit of cloth) into a normal bag.

Hey Veggie luckily I'm working from home so can hopefully have a bit of a nap later on (and I promise to go down for my nap without screaming, too )

I don't use a change bag, but I've got one of those mini ones from SkipHop - basically it just folds out into a changing mat and has a pocket where you can put nappies and a small plastic wipe case. That just gets shoved into whatever bag I am using/ bottom of pushchair. I've been sent a few for work though, hence their presence in my magic cupboard - Beans all yours if you want one ...

kiwi - I would love one! Yes please! DH managed to mend mine last night, which I obviously had to feign delight about, when in all honesty, I'd been getting quite excited about my new purchase - hee hee! Are you sure that's ok? It would be magic! Hurrah! thank you! I love my changing bag for some reason - just like to delve in and find whatever I've bunged in there. It has a seperate dirty stuff compartment lined with something strong and waterproof, so did on occasion find old smelly nappies in there from weeks earlier - nice!!! And so sorry mini panda is out of sorts - horrible for you - and annoying that DH is getting favourable treatment - grrr!

Thanks for tips on toothbrushing, Veggie - it was me asking. DD chews on her baby toothbrush most nights, but I just worry it's not really getting her teeth clean - and she's got so many of them. Literally, I think all her baby teeth. Like a little shark! And hope your day is ok after so little sleep. However did we used to cope when they were up all night when they were new? In fact, in 3 months I'll be able to tell you - sh*t!!!

Effie - hope the pox aren't too heinous for you.

Dora - I'm so sorry to hear about your FIL. That's horrible for you and your DH. Thinking of you both.

xxxx

PS I use baby shampoo about once a week on DD. Seems to do the trick. But she hasn't got very curly hair, so don't need to condition it - but I would if she did!

And on another PS Ex didn't offer full asking price, but they're first time buyers and they have half the cash and a mortgage ready to go - so it's a pretty nice deal on the table. And the price they offered is good as well. We are "considering their offer"... I do find it very weird, as he lived there with me for 5 weeks!!! And yes, we did consummate there! A lot!!

Ok Beans that is just SO weird. What DOES his partner make of it all???

Bag is all yours, we'll have to meet up again so I can get it to you. How about a Wetlands outing as we were talking about a few pages ago, I think with you Aubs? Anyone else care for some duck action ?

Talking of house prices, I'm having an ongoing frustration with my sister and mother. WE're selling my grandmother's flat (which was left 1/2 to my mum, 1/4 each to me and my sister). We had a sale agreed, about to exchange and then my sister and to lesser extent mum decided we could get more and pulled out. Now they are talking about changing to another estate agent. I know quite a few people on this thread have bought/sold recently so - here's my question - would you pull out of a sale despite having acheived MORE than asking price because the market is temporarily inflated by a tiny bit but every economist is saying it's going to fall again??

Yes please! I'd love a bit of duck action! Is 30th April or 3rd May too far away for everyone??! Sorry!

re the sale pulling out... Erm I wouldn't have pulled out having got more than asking price - think that might be a little bit greedy! I certainly think we're being too greedy with our asking price, hence am seriously considering one that is £35k less than we asked for.

It is odd that his partner is fine with the purchase - don't think I'd want to move into DH's ex's house. Would be too too odd!

Afternoon all.

Back from hols ? a lovely time was had by all.

LadyT sorry to hear about your dad ? hope they get to the bottom of it soon and he is feeling better.

Dora don?t think I?ve even said hello to you yet but welcome ? sorry to hear about your FIL. Will you be able to arrange a visit at all? What will happen to your MIL (assuming she is with him)?

spot wow, congrats on the book! Had a sneaky peek on Amazon ? very impressive indeed ? I would love to see my name in print but I guess I?d have to write something first? Brighton next weekend sounds great but am having a colonoscopy on Friday and I don?t know how I?ll feel afterwards. Anybody had one? I?m sure I?ll be feeling fine by Sunday but I might just want to hang out with the DCs at home. Otherwise, another weekend. I?m off every Friday from now on as well if anyone wants a cheeky London rendezvous.

Effie not seen you for ages. Was going to suggest meeting up this weekend but on second thoughts you can keep your poxy pox. Mine have got some kind of lurgy too anyway ? including DP. Got home from work yesterday to find DP?s mum mopping the floor and the whole place awash with sick & poo. Lovely. Hope yours are better soon.

Kiwi ethics aside, I don?t think I could be arsed pulling out at that stage frankly, not unless I had another buyer lined up.

JB I don?t tend to condition DD?s hair but I remember a hairdresser telling me to steer clear of Pantene - I think it?s something to do with silica (or some other silicone-related ingredient) which makes your hair very shiny the first time you use it as it coats it but after that it just builds up and ends up making your hair quite dull & dry looking (I guess the idea behind it is to make you put more and more on in an attempt to achieve the dazzling effect of the first time). I think it?s effective if you use it once in a while but not every wash.

Jam/wg (and anyone else feeling rubbish) hope you?re feeling better soon.

Hmm, am I the only one who doesn?t think it?s that weird for Beans ex to want to buy the house? Wasn?t his gf was the one who found it in the first place? An ex I used to live with is now on his 4th live-in girlfriend in the same flat (I was the first) and none have seemed to mind. I just hope he?s changed his sheets since I lived there ? So go on Beans, spill. How long were you together? How long before DH? Who dumped who? Are you still in touch (apart from the house stuff)? We need to hear all the evidence before we consider our verdict.

Too much other stuff to catch up on so hello to everyone I?ve missed.

Right, supposed to be working from home today and hopefully every Thursday from now on. I predict a very clean kitchen by the end of the day.

Hey PD always lovely to hear from you how's gorgeous DD apart from being lurgyfied.

I keep thinging in theory the Beans ex thing isn't that weird but something feels a bit yukky. At the end of the day it's his thing and having owned the place for so long it nice to think someone you know has it, but still something feels a bit strange. I have an ex that I wasn't with very long and he was a couple of years younger. I was 21 he was 18 I think. Anyway we lost touch and he met a girl and got married but he rang my mum the day before he for married to find out how I was and if he could get in touch with me, I was wandering across to India and I think I was halfway across Turkey at that time so mum had no idea how to contact me. Anyway he has kids now and everything and he still phones and emails my mum regularly, despite her best attempts to ignore him. She finds it a bit strange too. He even visited her recently despite living 2.5 hours away from my mums town. My other exes are ok though. So it's probably just the experience with him that makes me think he's strange.

Beans a friend of mine used cloth nappies with her first then had another baby about a year & a half after her first was out of nappies. When she was just about due she was sorting out the babies stuff and bought out her old nappy bucket, opened it and found a 1.5 year old pooey nappy. She closed the lid quick and made her DH deal with it.

Oh and Dora sorry to hear about your FIL. Where does he live do all his family live away?

Kiwi why do you get sent baby change bags? Are they really fashionable ones.

Oh coffee morning was lovely so nice to chat and hear some Aussie accents. Speaking of which, where is Rubs?

Hiya Veg ta for asking about DD - she is as you say gorgeous (well maybe not today as she's covered head to toe in spots). Was going to post a couple of pics to my profile but can't find the memory card to upload them - can you tell I'm supposed to be working? Woah, your ex sounds like a proper weirdo!

Yeah he is a bit...shame he was quite good looking, bit boring though.

PD - in answer to your questions...!
We were together for 18 months. not that long, but he was my first love and it was pretty full on. BUT he was 5 years younger than me, so didn't want to get married til he was about 30 and I would have then been 35, which wouldn't have worked as wanted to have kids etc! Plus he was a student still and I got a bit tired of funding absolutely everything. We split up in 2001, so a long time ago and have only seen him a couple of times since. We rarely speak, but I'm friends with his sister, so hear how he's doing etc.

in some ways, I guess it's not that weird as his girlfriend is the one putting up most of the money and the one who found our house. But if I were her, i wouldn't really want to live in a house where my boyfriend had spent time with his other great love had lived. Particularly as although I've had the downstairs done up, the main bedroom is exactly the same as it always was! BUT as far as I'm concerned, their money is as good as anyone else's and once I'm out, how they handle it is down to them!!!

Oh yes, where is Rubes - I wonder if she's gone walkabout like Crocodile Dundee?!!

And Veggie - your ex sounds creepy. Mine was really normal and v good fun. No hard feelings when we split up, was v amicable, just right person, wrong time, if you know what I mean.

Hi all

I've been lurking more than posting lately, but thought it was about time to catch up.

LadyT and Dora - sorry to hear about your Dad and FIL. I think dealing with the illnesses of those who are close to you is in some ways harder than dealing with your own, when you can fight/be fatalistic/however you like. Its easy to want to take responsibility on yourself, but it really isn't and shouldn't be all on your shoulders. Anyway, wishing the best for both of you.

Spot - congrats on the book! I too saw the Amazon link, there should definitely be a market for that.

poison - nice to see you on and glad it was a good trip away.

Beans - your ex's offer does sound a bit odd, but on the other hand that's not a reason not to take the money and run! The only thing I would say is how do you think you will get on if negotiations down the line turn out a bit tricky (e.g. if they come back on the survey, or there are delays or some such)? Just might bring a bit of extra akwardness to the process..

On hair - we do condition DD's hair and have done since she was tiny as it is curly and gets hopelessly tangled otherwise. We do use an organic kids conditioner as she has eczema/allergies so I'm not too adventurous with products on her.

All fine here. DS started really walking in earnest at the weekend and has almost given up crawling. I'd forgotten that stiff legged hands forward zombie walk they do at the beginnning, its hilarious! Although not sure that the mad grin is in keeping with the zombie look. DD gets overexcited and knocks him over from time to time.

Hi PD! Have you got the pox too, or is it a viral rash? DH reports that ds2 is not happy, poor bean. Am on the train home with a laptop and the hope I can get some work done in the next few days.

Dora: sorry to hear about your FIL.

Veggie: glad you had a good day and met some nice people

Just a quick one from me...

Thanks for all your thoughts on hair! That child conditioner sounds good invisible and I'll get myself something to alternate with pantene thanks for the tip PD.

PD I've had several colonoscopies, lucky me . Apart from it being embarassing, it was absolutely fine. Are they giving you some of the date-rape sedation stuff? The first time I had it I was very violent apparently so I've not been allowed as much on subsequent ones. On my first one I don't remember a thing - I wasn't sure if it had even happened until the nurse offered me tea and toast. The ones where I was given less drugs I can remember it feeling weird but not painful. I was sleepy afterwards but fine the next day.