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November '09 and the months are flying by, our 3 month plus troop, and us, the knitted boob group!

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SirBoobAlot · 09/03/2010 16:39

New thread, we chat so much!

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Fruitpastels · 10/03/2010 15:09

Sorry double posted.. my laptop is playing up!

BeckyBendyLegs · 10/03/2010 15:20

FP we had that too today: it is horrible, isn't it? Toby cried and cried and cried and has been unsettled ever since He's asleep now.

Fruitpastels · 10/03/2010 15:31

BBL Poor things. There were a lot of tears this time around. He's had a good sleep and seems very chirpy. I'm going to continue with the calpol until the morning to be on the safe side. Hope Toby sleeps it off and wakes up feeling better.

hobnob57 · 10/03/2010 15:41

I've forgotten a lot of stuff already, but sorry to hear of all the non-sleep going on. Isla was very upset with her tum last night, so was in bed with us and writhing. I think it was the oats I had on Sunday in FIL's special stuffing . She is still not right today and hasn't slept for more than 15 mins. I love oats so much...

Sad, sad stories about the babies who didn't make it. We do have miracles. sirboob that may explain some of the behaviour your mu was winding you up with pre-birth. It's amazing how sudden, strong and vivid flashbacks can be. I got them in the hospital at a routine appointment from DD1's birth which I didn't even realise I was traumatised about until that point.

pav can you ask your HV to source you some peptac or ranitidine to try for reflux? Sometimes they can persuade GPs to prescribe 'blind', so to speak. If it helps, a friend from baby group has just had her son diagnosed through the HV, and he was beginning to drop a centile, bringing up watery sick even hours after a feed, was feeding for short times, crying, being sick and then looking for a small top-up. All this began for her after the time of the 2nd jabs. If your feeling is that dairy might be contributing to his congestion (and it sounds really bad), let the HV know you're trying dairy-free (don't ask them) and ask for calcium supplements. Certain foods definitely aggravate reflux so it may be worth keeping a food/puke/congestion diary. I'm finding Isla seems to get most bothered 2-3 days after I've eaten a certain food.

BBL such bad news about BIL. Sorry to hear that.

DontWorryBaby · 10/03/2010 15:52

Thanks fruit, I've been to the chemist and the pharmacist also recommended saline drops, to begin with at least, so I've given him one dose before a feed. He did not like them at all!! He does sound clearer already though so hopefully this will be enough to clear up the cold.

Laugs · 10/03/2010 16:15

Hi all, I can't keep up but just marking my place so I know where I've read up to! Sorry to hear all these sad stories of loss. It doesn't bear thinking about.

Sorry to hear of sick babies too.

I have read everything else since Friday but it has slipped my mind!

Oh yes, the meet up. Hope you all had a great time. I saw some gorgeous babies on Facebook. I'll have to work out how to get mine on there. Poor James is definitely a second child - we hardly have any photos of him. Need to remedy that...

Fruitpastels · 10/03/2010 16:27

That's good DWB Keep the saline drops going as he'll probably sound congested tonight when he's been sleeping for a while, if my bubba is anything to go by!

skorpion · 10/03/2010 16:56

Hi All.

So awful to hear all the stories about babies that would be. SirBoob, hope the air now is truly cleared and you can look forward to a better relationship with your mum.

About upset tummies - is it possible for babies to get sensitive to food three months in then? Lucy'd never had problems before but been really suffering for a couple of days now. Gurgly tummy in the morning developing into painful windy bum... I have never avoided any type of food and haven't changed anything in my diet so wouldn't know where to start. Is laying off dairy a good point to begin? I've tried gripe water but it doesn't seem to have any long term effect...

PavlovtheCat · 10/03/2010 18:22

hobnob thank you for that advice, i will take him to the HV and have a chat, for what its worth (she is a bit crap really). He is not losing weight, well in between christmas and the following 3 weeks when he had horrendous mucous and vomiting watery sick he dropped a little, but then he went back up again to just under the 50th centile. He does feed feed feed, and he is sick about twice a day but not huge amounts. I am just not sure what is going on with him. He is still a happy baby, but i am pretty convinced if he did not have the mucous he would sleep much better at night (and me too). I have propped his mattress up, and we now have some fresh saline drops to try, as well as baby olbas oil drops for the room. See if those things work.

DD has been given us an absolute work out today. She has been a mare. Feel free to come and post on my thread when i post it for advice on what to do !

PavlovtheCat · 10/03/2010 18:23

dontworrybaby sorry to hear your baba is poorly too. I hope he feels better very soon.

BeckyBendyLegs · 10/03/2010 18:23

Laugs wait until you have a third: I can count on one hand how many pics we have of poor Toby! I need to take some more or he will grow up with third child complex!

Toby is a bit brighter this evening after a cranky day. He's lying on the floor chatting away to a purple balloon, as you do.

DontWorryBaby · 10/03/2010 18:47

pav Ethan isn't too bad, just had a very disturbed night with congestion. Hopefully I've got the saline drops quickly enough to stop it getting worse. Our problem today has been teething, he has been really upset and chewing his fingers all day. It's a shame he can't hold these teething toys in his mouth! Tried the teetha sachets and have looked out the calgel if we need it later.

Hope Reuben gets better soon x

PavlovtheCat · 10/03/2010 19:01

sound familiar? i hope so.

beepbeep · 10/03/2010 19:21

Pav - DS had silent reflux - picked up by the doctor not the HV, he would scream for about 10 hours a day, writhing all the time, refuse feed unless force fed whilst being held with his body straight (so had to stand up and sway to feed him). He was given infant gaviscon which worked for 2 days and then he seemed to become immune t it, he was then put on ranitidine which was like a miracle cure for him. On the advice of the doc he was weaned at 3 and half months, doc felt this would matire his gut and help the reflux, whatever it was, it worked though it took a while of being on the ranitidine before he was weaned off it. I feel for you know, DS was a nightmare, but a different child overnight on the meds.

DWB - Martha is also contantly chewing her fists and dribbling everywhere, I think her teeth must be moving around.

We have Martha's christening in York (my parents') on Sunday, DD is very excited about 'Marfa's party'!! so travelling up tomorrow night after hopefully getting my happy pills from the doc tomorrow eve!

TOK · 10/03/2010 19:50

Hope you have a lovely weekend beepbeep, I'm sure seeing your folks will cheer you up (not least because they can lend a hand with the dcs and give you a break!)

Poorly babies all round!

Anya had her 3rd set of jabs today too. What a terrible nurse we had. The lady who normally does them, and has done all of ds's and Anya's up until now, normally does the jabs really quickly. She has everything ready and gets the 3 jabs in before they've felt the first one. But this lady today awful! It took her AGES in between jabs so I had a writhing, screaming baby in my arms. Agree with everyone else in that these jabs have affected her worse than the others she was really wingey and crabit up until about an hour ago. Think she is teething too. But she is now sleeping after a dose of calpol and a generous helping of bonjela. Here's hoping she stays down!

Its hard enough going with a baby and toddler at the best of times Pav, but 10 times worse when one is playing up! Hope she wakes up in a better mood tomorrow!

PavlovtheCat · 10/03/2010 20:00

beepbeep oh how exciting for Martha's christening! I loved our children being christened, even though I was not that bothered about it, when it came to it, i felt quite proud!

Thing with DS, he is not crying for the most part, he is fussing at the boob more, but he is quite active, a figit like his sister and his mother! so i sort of put that down to that really. He squeals a little at night when he is down now though, a crying squeal that sounds painful and stops when I pick him up. It is pretty much the mucous, the blocked nose and his inability to breathe that is the problem. I am not concerned so much about the spit up, as he appears to e a 'happy spitter' just hate him not sleeping, as it is not good for him, hate him being uncomfortable and hate not being able to sleep for more than a couple of hours at te moment especially as i am sure its not his 'normal' sleep pattern, ie if it were not for this, it would all be easier at night. So i guess it is probably not silent reflux?

SirBoobAlot · 10/03/2010 21:49

Am putting my fingers in my ears and ignoring the comments about the third jabs being the worst la la la la la

Hope all the poorly babies feel better soon. Bryn was doing my nut in very ratty today so took him into town to annoy the general public get a change of scene. He still screamed, but I got a gingerbread latte, so the world seemed a brighter place Also saw an old friend who I haven't seen since my baby shower, so was lovely to catch up.

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DontWorryBaby · 10/03/2010 22:18

Lol at sirboob, you have a way with words!

wook · 10/03/2010 22:33

Sorry to hear of nasty jabs, reflux and so on- life is hard for these little babies and their mums!! I wondered today if 4 months is a bit of a funny age for them, too small to do much but know they want to do things, can't eat food but need a bit more than boob or whetever they've been having, teething the whole time etc. Too big to snuggle like when they were tiny, but too small to not need the comfort. They are like poor little baby teenagers!

The tales of stillbirths are so very sad. What strength you must have to find to get through such a thing, to lose a child in those circumstances is unbearable even to imagine.

SirBoob I am in Worthing at Easter- do you think I'll be able to hear Bryn from there?! Glad you had a good time today. Getting out works wonders doesn't it.

I sent my application in at last. Now as I don't want to work, I just want to watch Doctors and cuddle Hedy- or in the case of May/June/July throw her up in the air all day in the sunshine in the park and sit on a picnic rug reading to her and looking at the sky. With any luck, the summer will be a washout if I'm going to spend it in a classroom!

I waded in on Butterpie's side on a political thread and seem to have had my first MNet virtual row. Feel all feisty!

Any book recommendations? I liked the latest Nick Hornby. I think I am getting Natasha Walters' 'Living Dolls' for Mother's Day from my highly enlightened ds but I need a fiction book to fall into.

PavlovtheCat · 10/03/2010 22:36

wook oh did you? link it please? I like a good feisty row, i do it more than perhaps i should depends on my mood, but sometimes i can't help but bite...I won't wade in promise!

ursigurke · 11/03/2010 09:39

good morning all!
All those stories about losses make me really sad. It must be so hard, especially if it happens after a normal and healthy looking pregnancy. But it seems as it happens to almost every woman at some point of her life and if it is "just" an early miscarriage. When my sister came over to visit us when Paula was about 5 weeks she quickly told me about her second missed miscarriage just a couple of weeks ago. I didn't know at all how to react as I haven't even known she had been pregnant. (The first time she had told the family already about being pregnant.) And also I was standing there, changing my baby's nappies.

I'm also sorry to hear about so many babies feeling poorly at the moment. I hope things will improve soon.

socks-as-mits, thanks for that tip, tried it tonight and she kept them on until the morning when she realised she had them on and looked a bit

3rd-jab, it doesn't necessarily have to be the worst. Paula took it well, but I have to say she took them all rather well. Obviously there was lots of crying when the nurse put the needle in (a good one who had everything ready) but stopped quickly. I would say, the first jab may have been the worse (but maybe only for me).And her non sleeping at the moment is probably rather due to over motivated grand parents who just can't give her a little bit of quite time too.

wook, interesting thought of baby teenagers. I guess there is really a huge difference in what they want to do and what they actually can do.

skorpion, I found too that Paula seemed suddenly more sensitive to food than before. But I could still not tell what exactly it causes. Maybe it is not always the same? Like for us, sometimes we have a bit more problems to digest an egg for example than other times.

Paula seems to have digestive problems at night but not really during the day , so I wonder if I should slightly change my diet, eat normal food during the day or rather early and for dinner something like plain rice. And I should try to feed her less during the night. At the moment it is worse than when she was a newborn. I feed her almost everytime when she wakes up (at the moment between hourly and every two hours!), partly because she seems to be hungry partly because I take wrong decisions when half asleep. But she definitely needs more at the moment because she takes usually more than just a couple of sips.

I'm sure there were other things I wanted to say but I'm in constant hurry at the moment. PIL are here for the week, they are quite ok, but it is sometimes a bit too much for me. And I can't hear anymore about how sweet Paula is, how sweet her toes, how sweet when sleeping, look at her, she is laughing (yes, she does that sometimes with me too). I really want her to have a good relationship with her grand parents but I sometimes feel that I am babysitting three children. I do not feel as if I could leave them alone with her, they just don't seem to have any experience how to handle a baby or to read the signs. When Paula starts crying because the funny game gets suddenly too much, my MIL would do it again and again and even louder or quicker and more exciting, a behavior which is normally typical for men, isn't it?
I will though let them go for a walk with her this afternoon to meet a dear friend who is slightly scared of children to give her the chance of having a childfree coffee and cake.
Well, pav, I had quite a lot to tell after saying that I'm in a hurry so I just stop now.
Hope everyone is having a nice day!

raggie · 11/03/2010 15:01

Ooh yes wook do like it, we love a goss here, we do. I just finished reading a book which was interesting called 'None of the ever really happened' by Peter Ferry . He's written for McSweeneys, Dave Eggers-related magazine, if you've heard of it. I heart Dave Eggers.

I also just read Gods in Alabama which I liked. I love American fiction when it's really evocative of a place, especially the south, like Vernon God Little by DBC Pierre or The Little Friend by Donna Tartt. It's a similar vein but a bit lighter. Good for post-preg brain..

I found them both in my library's 'quick picks' section so I guess they might be quite recent, can't remember. Let us know if you find a good one!

roomac · 11/03/2010 15:30

Hi all. It's been a while. All is well here. Olivia or li'l Liv as her big brother calls her is almost 17wks and seems to be going into feeding overdrive. Roll on weaning. One small concern is Liv's eyes as she is still squinting some of the time. Optometrist said to leave it a couple of months then she might need baby glasses.

Books wise would recommend One Day by David Nicholls who wrote Starter for Ten, and also The White Tiger which won the booker a while back.

Right school run calls.

skorpion · 11/03/2010 16:54

Thanks, ursigurke, I'm hoping this is just temporary, too. As you say, it hits everybody from time to time... Just need to practice giving her gripe water - she really hates that and I do, too. I hope you enjoy the time with your friend. And as for PIL, it has been a while for them without babies, hasn't it, they're out of practice. I know my MIL said she wouldn't know her way around a baby now, it's been over 35 years since she had one.

wook yes, link, please. I love a good nosey around other people's fights

roomac welcome back, hope Liv's eyes improve. Lovely name for your little girl, btw.

pavlov sorry DD's been playing up. No advice I'm afraid, my parenting skills so far boil down to shoving a boob in a little mouth.

beepbeep have a lovely weekend.

Did you watch 'one born every minute'? That 17 year old dad was so much better at being a birth partner than those older dads from before that supposedly had done it before!

skorpion · 11/03/2010 16:54

'from before' should have ben 'from earlier episodes'...