Oct 08 - Chair climbing, spider greeting, potty training? NOOOOOO, they're still babies! <wibble>

[50ftQueenie]

10th Sept (Due 1st Oct) - loulou33 - Boy - Joe Louis David - 6lbs 12oz
16th Sept (Due 8th Oct) - Ksal - Girl - Emma Rae - 6lbs
21st Sept (Due 5th Oct) - myjobismum - Girl - Naomi Caitlin - 5lbs 10oz
2nd Oct (Due 12th Oct) - star6 - Boy - Quinlan - 5lbs 15oz
4th Oct (Due 30th Sept) - Aubergenie - Boy - Stanley - 7lbs 12oz
8th Oct (Due 6th Oct) - ronshar - Boy - William Dexter - 7lbs 11oz
9th Oct (Due 17th Oct) - 50ftQueenie - Girl - Martha - 7lbs 10oz - Elective c-sec
10th Oct (Due 1st Oct) - CantSleepWontSleep - Boy - Duncan Elliot - 8lbs 4oz
12th Oct (Due 4th Oct) - pistachio - Boy - Thomas Fraser - 10lbs 2oz
16th Oct (Due 11th Oct) - heather1980 - Boy - Alexander James - 9lbs 5oz
17th Oct (Due 10th Oct) - pepperrabbit - Girl - Jessica Rose - 7lbs 15.5oz
24th Oct (Due 29th Oct) - Ekka - Boy - Matthew - 7lbs 15oz
26th Oct (Due 20th Oct) - jenwa - Girl - Phoebe Jasmine - 9lbs 2.5oz
28th Oct (Due 23rd Oct) - RachieW - Boy - Jack - 7lbs 4oz
31st Oct (Due 20th Oct) - KnickersOnMaHead - Boy - Samuel Paul - 9lbs 11oz
5th Nov (Due 29th Oct) - Honeymoonmummy - Girl - Poppy Grace - 6lbs 15oz
5th Nov (Due 30th Oct) - MamaG - Boy - Harry James - 10lbs 9oz

Hope this is ok ladies.

I agree hmm, you are lacking fruit and veg. I too, assumed there would be veg in with dinner. Carrot sticks alone will not do the trick.
I usually keep a container of mange tout and/or sugar snap peas next to my desk and snack on those (yummmmmy!!!). I love these and they satisfy hunger and are very good for you and they keep all day in a plastic container without going off or tasting bad. As for fruit, grapes of late as they've been on sale .

why are you sad pistachio? So sorry to hear that

If anyone wants to read about a stupid argument between dh and I - look at blah thread on our group on fb. I'm so and it's all so childish!

If THAT made you think Star it is a very good job I kept the detailed discussions just private between Myjob and I!!! The Mooncup is absolutely, definitely not for you! I think you'd actually keel over and die.

Pistachio - Were you one us was in sync? If so, my period started today so you are bound to be pre-menstrual. I don't get grumpy when I have PMT (well a little bit snappy maybe) but I mostly get really really depressed. When I first got my periods back after M was born I was convinced I was developing PND, but it was PMT. Then every time I was due on I was convinced I had PND (I had it with DS) but each time it was PMT. I suspect it is PMT, doesn't make it any nicer but I am very hopefully it will pass for you. PMT can affect some women's lives so badly that they can take hormones to suspend their cycle so they are in a kind of menopause state. It can be debilitating. I recommend cake and chocolate, good dark chocolate.

Happy to help Pistachio. If it is PMT and you end up suffering on a monthly basis, you will learn to cope with it. I am not the most positive of people but I can prevent myself from getting really down by reminding myself that I am feeling PMTy.

I started my period today as well. That is well scary.

Star I sent the email. I was very polite and matter of fact. My moment was blown out of the water when I realised that I dont have the correct email address for DH bitch face sister. We shall see tomorrow what hell comes my way.

Pistachio. PMT can be horrible, it has been used in court as a defence before. Dont be too hard on yourself and just take each hour one at a time. Dont set too many targets and be pleased with each day that you havent killed anyone.
Thats what I do when I get it bad, which isnt all the time but it does seem to be creeping back again. Each month I get a bit more shouty and a bit more snappy. Soon I will be back to my most glorious inreasonable self every 3 weeks

Pistachio, I know exactly how you feel re going to sleep to stop feeling bad, I used to do exactly the same thing. You're doing really well considering "conventional" AD's didnt work for you. I've found that since starting to reduce my AD dose my PMT is coming back, I've always been a moody cow for a week per month. I hope it is PMT x

CSWS, not wholewheat. i hate wholewheat pasta. If you knew what my diet used to be before I was PG you'd be really shocked and I wasnt constipated then!!! Thanks to you all for your advice, I've had an apple tonight after all of your nagging support

Star look away now......

Right I have retired my mooncup for the time being. I really struggle to remove the thing. I end having to give myself an internal exam every time! It's a real struggle. Once it's in place it's fabulous but it's so difficult to retrieve! I have long thin fingers so that's not the problem!

I?ve got my period at the moment as well! Spooky?

Pistachio ? Sorry you?re feeling like this. I?m sure we were all on at the same time a month or so ago weren?t we? That would definitely make sense of the PMT theory. I have always had bad PMT (I am generally very hormonal, can feel when I ovulate etc) and I find that for me, there?s a definite correlation with my diet. Cutting out alcohol, caffeine and wheat make a big difference and it?s much worse on months when I don?t do that. However, I think my situation may be different to yours as, although I feel tired and gloomy, my symptoms are more physical than mental, if that makes sense. I wonder if something like evening primrose could help you?

Myjob, that menu sounds lovely! Well done for having the confidence to dress up.

HMM, My mum would recommend prunes in your situation. Could you stick some on your breakfast cereal?

50ft ? What is the problem with the mooncup? You haven?t cut too much of the stalk off, have you?

Oh, and congratulations on the weight loss! Amazing. You must be very focussed to achieve that.

Right, must get on. It's my morning off and I'm sitting in bed but have loads of school work to get on with. Gah!

Diet Aubergenie! Of course I forgot how important diet is in dealing with PMT! That's why I've not been getting PMT too badly of late, no wheat, no sugar, not much dairy. Thank you for reminding me about that! I don't think I've trimmed too much off, I still have about half an inch left: any longer and it would have rubbed. I can't break the suction to get it out and I can't seem to actually get hold of the thing to get it out. I eventually manage to break the suction but..... well, you remember that scene from Macbeth?

Dairy! I forgot about that too. That definitely makes a difference for me. (You don't really do dairy, do you Pistachio).

It's funny, when we were TTCing last time, I was really careful about what I ate/drank, but this time, I only remembered a week or so ago that I needed to get some folic acid. I really need to get myself organised. I have made some rye and spelt bread this morning though, so that's a start.

to Macbeth. That doesn't sound good. Presumably, you've done this, but have you tried squeezing it slightly and then very gently tipping it forwards/backwards to break the seal at one edge? Otherwise it does feel like you're pulling all your innards out doesn't it.

Oh, and I think we've found an area to move to that we can (hopefully) afford. It's not too far from here so I can still get to work/CM, but has a nice villagy feel, and is still on the tube line.

Oooo good plan Pistachio. I'll try the shower. I think I am also getting stressed because DS always tries to follow me into the bathroom chatting and that is not something I want to subject him too!

Aubergenie - Sugar is one of the worst things for me with the PMT. And if I got drunk the night before my period started I would get severe dysmenorrhea and actually have contraction pains! I will try the Mooncup again later. It is so much better than tampons save for the tricky removal.

Thanks ladies, I knew I can count on your help.

Right. I was ok(ish) until this...
"I still have about half an inch left: any longer and it would have rubbed"

Aubergenie - exciting about finding a place to move to Village-y feel, close to london? Isn't it lovely being a teacher? During our "time off" both at work and at home when dc is occupied... we have to do school work!! It quite simply never ends! I guess I could just not do it... but then I'd be quite clueless about my students and don't think the parents would be too happy with me...

I'm actually looking forward to the day when Q sees for himself how dh acts towards me sometimes and says something about it (even innocently) because it's quite obvious. He'll say "i'm not doing anything!" (well, exactly) but also when he's in a "mood" and just won't talk to me or ignores me except for a grunt...etc. He'll notice. I don't want him to. I'd rather dh just be nice like he used to be. But he also needs to realize it's not my imagination!

BOO [WINK]

hmm - I think you're right that I would be shocked by your diet pre pregnancy, as I'm shocked enough by it as it is now! All those refined carbs are shit for your digestion, and quite probably shit for your moods too, as they will cause massive blood sugar swings. If you don't like wholewheat pasta (which is bloody lovely) then how about using brown rice instead? Or star's favourite quinoa? And add beans to things - they are fab.

50ft - I can't think why you are finding it so hard to remove . I find it a doddle and I have removed all the stalk from mine (found it uncomfy). I just grab the bottom of it, give it a bit of a squeeze to break the suction, and then pull out. And fwiw I have incredibly short fingers.

Night one of ds in the 'bed' version of his cot bed is not going well so far. We've been trying to settle him for an hour now, but he's still awake, and screams and rushes to the door if one of dh or I is not in the room with him. Did you have this same problem with W ronshar? Dh is mostly smug about it it seems, as he thought it would be difficult .

I have not been here for ages and then I cant even remember what to do and it keeps freezing on me! Its rejecting me already!

csws sorry you are having a difficult time with D, my friend is having a hard time with her DS at night but they think it may be colic.

I was thinking about the mooncup but am worried now about squating in toilets and not being able to retreave it

star dd1 once told DH "dont talk to my mummy like that" makes you feel better!!!

Hmmmmm, given my propensity for disasters, it doesn't sound as if a mooncup is for me!

So, I'm a hockey widow tonight. Dh is totally immersed in the Canada/US gold medal game, and rocking to and fro getting stressed. I really hope Canada wins or else we'll be a house of mourning for weeks

I was hoping he would not notice my request to buy this and several of these on his credit card, but sadly he isn't quite that absorbed.

CSWS, poor D. Is he usually easy to settle at nighttimes? I remember dd didn't even realise she could get out of her bed when we first converted it, it took her about a week before it dawned on her . But she has always been easy to get to bed, its when she wakes in the middle of the night she is trouble.... I'm rather glad that we can't move ds to a bed until we've found a proper bed/drawers combo for dd that will fit into her teeny bedroom; I don't think he will want to stay in bed if he can get out.