DEC 08 - Barely into toddlerhood and already at our tit's end

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Tit's end...had to be done.

Hope this works!

Oh, and Daisy, is there any likelihood of a sunny holiday for you in the near future? I reckon you could do with it.

Maybe your DS is having an MMR reaction - 7-10 days after the jab is the peak zone for reaction, so I was told.

G'day. How are we all? Seems that grumpiness must be an age thing, I echo what most of the rest of you are going through. DD is a little devil at the moment, won't nap, won't let me feed her and won't let me leave the room. She even rejected DH this weekend in favour of me, which is pretty unheard of and he was a bit upset. On the other hand, DS is being a delight at the moment, which is a good thing as it is half term and I am still trying to get work done from home, so very much need him to be an angel!
I'm going to do a bit of a 'LadyT', apologies Lady, but I am thinking we might also be pregnant and not too happy about it. I haven't been able to make up my mind whether I want #3, so if I am up the duff then I suppose this rather takes it out of my hands.
My cycles have been so irregular that I am not really sure when I ovulate, but I have always been and 'early ovulater' IYKWIM and I think last week we may have hit the nail on the head, so to speak, which was very foolish of me I know. I can't really remember having too many early symptoms with the other two, but this time I have tender boobs, and a really dull achey feeling in my pelvis constantly and sore lower back which rings an alarm bell. I suppose the only answer is to test, but think I'll give it a few more days as presumably it is still a bit early.
DH will be delighted if I am pg, and I suppose I'll get used to it, but really am thinking that 3 kids is a whole lot different to 2 and that life isn't going to get any easier or quieter anytime soon.

Ladyt, hadn't thought of the mmr, seems a long time ago now but today is 10 days since he had it. I can't put him down he just screams!

Oh, and today is the day DC2 would have been born 2 years ago if I hadn't miscarried which is making me a bit sad . Just unfortunate that it is a really easy date to remember

Daisy - so very pleased to read your recent posts, I really hope this means things have properly started to turn for the better.

Effie - congratulations on the sale. The poss new house you linked to looks fabulous!

Beans - good luck with the scan, that's exciting! Sorry you had a bad night though.

Ill DCs here too. Both rashy, coldy and all round grumpy. I would put it down to the MMR, but as DD has it too, that can't be right. DD also seems to be exhausted - went in to her this morning to a loud wailing of "Make J go to sleep!", which I think translates to "Get him to stop bouncing around, I'd like a lie in..."

LadyT - you describe pretty much how I feel about work at the moment. I know I am still (just about) in a job, I have very little to do and feel very dull. Still plodding away on finding something else to do and its very depressing. There are prospects here and there, but my motivation levels are so low which I can't understand as I really do need to work.

Sorry to whinge.

Hope those who are off on half term have a great week.

X posted.

katie - if its any help, I am one of 3 and have always loved the fact. The dynamic of 3 is so different as if you are fed up with one sib, there is always the other one.

Katie...I do know how you feel, and I sympathise fully. I can tell you, though, I have really come round to the idea now and am pleased and excited about the new baby (though I can't say I exactly love being pregnant), but that feeling of being bowled along when you haven't 'chosen' isn't nice. I also felt guilty on top of that because I thought of all the thousands of women who would give their right arm to be pregnant. Whatever happens, I hope you feel better soon and sorry today is a bad anniversary, that must be tough.

Invis, you poor thing. DP is finding work horribly tough at the mo, can't see a way out and obviously has to work, and I can see how demoralising that is. Keep looking. It's irons in the fire that are going to cheer you up and as soon as you have a few things will seem very different.

Oh, and Daisy, looking at the sheet they gave me after DD's MMR, it's definitely 7-10 days that is the peak, with reactions possible up to 3 weeks later (and in rare cases 6 weeks).

Right, I have been instructed to book another scan for next Monday for before I see my consultant. So London meet up ladies, I will have DD and will have had a day of medical appointments. Grrrrrate.

Gosh I think there might be a bad batch of MMR!

Lady why do you need to look busy. Don't take this the wrong way (I'm not one of 'those' MNers) but why can't you just be a WAHM so therefore part time? Or is that frowned upon? Sorry about your MIL I think you just have to grind your teeth and ignore it, and even laugh at how very ignorant she is. You are right, you could be working fulltime and she would be making remarks about that. Find solace in the fact that her own son can't even confide in her his true financial worries.

Beans she needs the emolient to keep the dry area moist. The acqueas cream is a soap alternative so is designed to be applied them washed off. If it's used as a cream it can lead to very bad excoriated skin. It's well documented but unfortunately some GPs don't know this. Eczema was one of my teams specialties, we were often teaching GPs not to prescribe it.

Oh and Katie, hope you get the outcome you are ok with.

Well, in order to get commissions Veggie you have to seem in demand and sparkling and if the world is at your feet.

The only thing at my feet at the moment is a pair of rather tatty Boden slippers, but c'est la vie.

I have very large sheep slippers
Hi all. I'll join the 'I've got a grumpy baby' gang too...bad nights again (fed her again in the night - will I ever stick to my plans?!) and just not really knowing what she wants int he day. Crying if held, as though she wants to be free, but then crying if put down, as though she did not want to be abandoned Also refusing the lovely grub she used to eat and living off yoghurt and weetabix. She has had her 4 front teeth for a month now but today I've noticed 2 liitle back ones poking through so I guess that could explain things a bit. My Aunt from London came up to see us on Sat and p cried the entire time!
ladyt that sounds very hard to take from your MIL, especially when you know you could very well put her in her place by mentioining your expenditure on the house, and I think you are very loyal and gracious to your dp for not spilling the beans. Would you like us all to ring you and offer you exciting work while you're out for drinks - we could make you seem very in demand, and we could get WG to train us up with some accents to make us seem more credible?
Daisy I'm so pleased you had a good day. Your analogy with the balloon was really good. I guess there'll still be the horrid times but having a glimpse of the dh you know and love must give you hope
Spot I remember dd1 having very mucousy poo for a while and I think they tested her poo to check out malabsorption kind of things, but all was well and I think she was probably swallowing her snot. Is T chunky or slight? I can't remember
Aub glad you'r feeling a bit more relaxed but rubbish about another virus. Hope it goes quickly.
kayz enjoy your week off. Got any plans?
beans sorry about poor little dd - and you with the lack of sleep.
I'm taking Lu to the docs later because I feel like something's not right. She's had sloppy poo (sorry) for weeks now, not watery but just kind of like porridge (sorry again!) and she's going about twice a day. She gets loads of tummy aches and still looks pale. Her bloods were all fine late last year when I was worried about the tiredness, but I guess that was just full blood count so wouldn't pick up something like coeliac. Although I'm probably worrying for nothing. But she looks a bit skinny (for her) so I checked her weight against her school entry weight (1 yr ago) and she weighs less now than she did then . Probs nothing wrong but I'll feel better when I've spoken to the GP.
Anyway I ought to go but will try to pop back later...

trace - hope the GP has some reassurance for you.

LadyT - you are quite right, I am just indulging myself in the grumps! Hope all is OK on the medical side - lovely as it is to see the LOs, lots of scans/appts get to be annoying. By the end of my pregnancy with DS I had the sonographer asking me why exactly I was being scanned, as everything seemed fine .

Hello lovelies There really is something in the air at the moment isn't there? DD has been funny all weekend doing the pick-me-up-no-put-me-down thing, and as soon as I say No to her (eg, No don't try and eat the loo brush...) she cries. She only smiled once this morning and that was at a lady in the Co-op

Daisy, I'm so glad things went ok for you on Friday. And it sounds as if you had a great day yesterday as well, what a fantastic present you gave DH. (I welled up a bit at that ) Really hope he can start coming to terms with his mother being gone now, you've been a real rock and it seems that he's appreciating that at last!

Yikes, so many poorly MMR babies. But better a few days illness now than something potentially dreadful further down the line.

urbane ooh get you glamorous lifestyle type person! Can you get all the celeb gossip for us? I say, not actually having a clue who any of the nominees are, I just looked at the list and I couldn't tell you how a single one of the nominated singles goes. God I'm such a sad old git!

hello spot! Poor T really has been through the mill hasn't he (and you as well...)

veggie oh the valentines guilt, I jokingly said to DH yesterday morning that he'd better have dinner ready and the romantic music on when I got back from choir, he said You do have funny expectations about this sort of thing, and I confessed that I just wish he'd make the odd romantic gesture from time to time. And then a couple of hours later an interflora guy pulled up at the door - well in fact we were making lunch, door went, he said You get that, I said No you answer the bloody door I'm chopping onions!

lady Yah boo sucks to DP's mum, it sounds as if you're right she's the kind of person who would never be happy whatever you did.

aubi hope your cold sorts itself out soon, have you asked a doctor why you're so susceptible to this sort of thing? OK, you wouldn't go just for a cold but if you're catching something so often, it may be worth them seeing if there's anything preventitive that can be done - over and above vitamins etc.

katie - sorry this is a sad day for you that might well be making it harder to think about being pg again.

invis hope the dcs are on the mend soon.

JJ you just made me spit laugh about telling DH to get the bloody door because of you cutting onions! Still giggling. DS2 actually smiled at me because I giggled our loud, which makes a change. Speaking of that being a change from the normal grumpiness lately I went to the apotheek (that's for you LadyT) today to get some Vit D. The consultatiebureau lady the other day recommended them because of the evil weather/lack of sun. I think I need some zinc or something for DH & I though as both our nails are crappy and have those White bits on them. Actually I think we just need a summer holiday. I think we'll enjoy this next summer then it's def time to go home.

Lady that is a good idea of Trace's about ringing you, I could be from the Sydney morning herald!

Veggie can you get Vegemite over there? Doesn't that have loads of Vitamin D/ Zinc/ Folic Acid etc in it? We are all guzzling it here, probably because our bodies are asking for the vitamins. I'll send you some over if you like. Talking of which, do you Aussies remember the ad for it that was had the song: We're happy little Vegemites, as bright as bright can be, we all adore our Vegemite, for breakfast lunch and tea, it puts a rose in every cheek. Always makes me smile

WE're going to need a new thread soon - new titles anyone?

Hee hee! Love the onions story as well!

DD also doing put me down, don't leave me screaming. And she seems to have an itchy bottom which is causing grief. Hope it's not worms!!! She finally ate some food tonight, then chewed it on her sore side and threw it all up. I@ve been a terrible mother and let her have donut for supper. AAGH!

xx

Katie - good luck with getting the outcome you want though i'm confused as I thought you were trying - (doesn't take much these days to confuse me) Sorry about the Dengue - it was a problem in Northern Qld a year or so back when I visited. I had ds in his travel cot with his mozzie net up all the time - the fam thought I was mad! My db has Ross River Fever which isn't as bad at all but it's from those damn mozzies. Least you have some answers now.
How could you forget that Vegemite ad! Not a fan though - I heart Promite
Eek I'll be back actually doing some shifts at work soon but with my leave owed I only have to do 2.5 months before leave and maternity leave etc so i'm a pretty happy camper. Plus it's only part time
Have finally decided to go to Spain in June. Dh has a race, and I was umming and ahing but I've found a really lovely hotel to stay in which is in the middle of nowhere, so I can lounge around and get a massage etc I'll be 34 weeks so it'll be a nice break. We are going to take the car over (Portsmouth-Santender) as I get a massive discount off Brittany Ferries - Anyone been on that? We can afford the big outside cabin with my discount so really looking forward to it now

Oh and a bit of grumpiness from the MMR so far but no rashes etc - he's just back to that screaming after his nap in the afternoon. Might take him to the HV thisafternoon to ask her as I have to go to the GP today anyway

Morning folks, went to GP yesterday who made me feel really quite guilty for not taking T sooner for his chest (you can't win - if you take them "too often" there's the accusation of time wasting and just coming for a normal cold).
Anyway he said T's chest was v v congested but was surprised he was otherwise perky and had a good appetite which wouldn't normally indicate chest infection. So he's given him antibiotics just in case it is but says if they don't clear it his money's on asthma. But I found this a bit odd as T doesn't wheeze at all, just coughs. Still, I have no experience of asthma so maybe I need to learn a bit more. Bless him, he does sound like a coffee percolater.

Sounds like a wonderful trip to take in June, Rubena, I did that crossing when I was younger, we had a bit of trouble over the bay of biscay but I am very prone to seasickness so probably suffered more than most. Worth it when you get there, Cantabria is lovely.

Beans, I frequently give T cake for tea. Maybe that's his problem - not asthma but aspiration of cake crumbs.

Hi JJ and Tracesorry to hear about grumpy babyness. Maybe there should be something about that in the next thread title. Or maybe a line from the Police's "every step you take" as they won't let us out of their sight. Or maybe that's too sinister. We have clingy babies but they're not stalkers. How about - "Every step you take, I'll be watching you. Every step I take, there could be a poo". Hmm, needs work.

Spot: don't feel bad about not taking DS earlier, if it isn;t a chest infection I'm not sure there's a lot they can do. DS1 also very coughy and I ws wondering about asthma (I have it). I think it can preent itself as coughiness in small children, esp after an infection. Both DSs have actually been prescribed inhalers (blue) although they haven't been diagnosed with asthma. DS1 had a puff on his last night because he was waking up coughing . Am at work feeling guilty as I legged it out of the door, but am off tomorrow.

Stop press: DS2 slept through! Apart from being woken by DS1's coughs and screams at about 10pm. No feeds and asleep till 6.

Grim day here: cold and wet. Sorry you're feelong run-down Veggie. As soon as the sun emerges here I'm bustling all of us out of the door.

Katie: when are you going to test? Hope you get the right answer for you. I find three a bit of a scary prospect, but I'm sure Sybs would assure you than it can work out

Hooray for SD2 sleep, Effie! That is really good news.
That's interesting that they prescribe inhalers without a diagnosis, do you find it eases their coughs?

Off to my mum's today, hoping T is okay with her so I can get some work done!

Am getting a bit fed up with the FUCKING SEAGULLS who wake me up super early every morning, even before T does. Wish they'd warned me about that before I moved to the sea...

Seagulls are vicious buggers. We had a herring gull cmaping on our roof at university. Beaks like machetes. Orrible birds (and they attack your bin bags). I recommend a catapult .

The inhlaer does help if we can get DS1 to take it (not tried it yet for DS2). We have a spacer but not a lot of help with a screaming 3yo. I think it was prescribed more for peace of mind than anything - if he gets wheezy I can try the inhaler as a short term measure (obv if it gets bad I'd whisk him off to A&E)

Hi All

Katie - I'd love 3! But I can imagine it's a bit daunting, so hoping you get the outcome you're after.

Bit of a drama here... Took DD to the dr this morning about her rash and general out of sortsness and they don't know what it is at all, as it's pretty limited to her hands and face and bum. They weren't remotely worried about it, so was just about to head out, when I mentioned my scan this pm.

Obviously, because I'm pregnant, I now have to go and take Whizz to A&E to get it diagnosed and I have to have a blood test and all this before my scan!!! I'm letting her have a little sleep now so she's not too miserable this afternoon, but then heading up to A&E at about 1.00.

Meantime, I'd had the nanny round with the other family's little girl this morning so I could get a few things done before the dr appointment. The other nannyshare mum is 10 weeks pregnant, which the nanny doesn't yet know. EEK! But the doctor said to send them home, although she thinks the rash is nothing to worry about, but better to do it. Obviously now the other Mum is worrying herself stupid and I feel really bad that I had them round this morning! GOD. Why didn't I just tell them not to come? Thing is, was going to, but when I saw DD's rash this morning, it had gone down so much, I didn't think it was necessary.

But now the nannyshare Mum has texted me saying she's looked up the symptons on the internet and could it be measles? Pointless to look things up on the internet - more worrying than pacifying - and if the doctor didn't know when she's actually seen the rash, then the chances are it's not going to be something like measles and is probably just a localised one off thing and the internet isn't going to know any better. I'm not worried. Apart from about this mother! I've told her to try not to worry about it til we know what it is, as I'm sure it's nothing. But I don't think she's hearing me and has gone into meltdown. I've spent every day with DD really up close and personal and am also pregnant, so if I'm not worrying, I really don't want her to be. I feel really bad, though. I wish I'd told them not to come this morning. Stupid stupid me. Bugger.

Beans, it could be Hand Foot and Mouth?? DS had spot on his bottom too when he had that.

Apparently not as nothing on her palms or on her feet. It's all on the back of her hands. It's a bit grim really. And round her mouth!