DEC 08 - Barely into toddlerhood and already at our tit's end

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Tit's end...had to be done.

Hope this works!

WG: I find feeding both boys at extraordinarilty short intervals makes for a much better day! They are both snackers like me. So if Madam asks for food I'd give her some. I'm afraid your days of being able to eat your own food may be over! I remember being able to go into a cafe, buy a cake and eat it myself. Now I get DS1 begging for a bit (even if he has his own) and DS2 pointing and declaiming DIS! DIS! until he has some too. Sigh. Look after yourself today

DS2 finally had his 1 year check (8mo as was) yesterday and is officially normal . 75th centile for weight (about 11kg) and 91st for height (80cm). Which is reasonable as he's just had a growth spurt. I also bought him his first pair of 'proper' shoes (the startrite 'tots' ones). He looks so grown-up in them! Oh, and he slept through the night on Tuesday but woke up at 4:30 this morning. I think we're set at one waking a night, which tbh I'm OK with.

Completion tomorrow! To amuse myself I've been looking up houses to buy (though we wouldn't be moving until next spring) and found a lovely one that's been on the market for a while. Thought I'd do a link for the house-porn followers out there. Prob out of our price range but a really nice house:
www.dezrez.com/DRApp/Search.ASP?WCI=Particular&WCE=01470799

Oh effie that looks lovely and nice price too. I got quite excited about the roman mosaics as I have a bit of a thing about them. I switched off a bit after that and started thinking about all the mosaic sights I visited in my travelling life before children. I came back around and was quite astounded to find the property has a multi screen cinema then realised I was reading the local towns description.

WG sorry about the insomnia, I knew I should have logged on. DS2 is warming up for his next set of teeth and was feeding a bit and quite warm last night. Also the bloody people next door had their TV/radio still blaring so could even dose off whilst he fed. I can hear it still now as I'm putting him down for his nap they have it on 24hrs a day. I don't really mind during the day but overnight is a bit much. They must be deaf as these are thick concrete walls.

Is the funeral tomorrow?

Hello Rubs, babe as long as your comfortable with your birthing decision don't worry about anyone else. To be fair I think a lot of the overhang stuff comes from the US were they only do a single suture line rather than a double layer here in the UK.

WG - Sorry you're suffering. You sound like me last week. I suffer with insomnia off and on (never did before DS!) and it is infuriating. For me, it seems to be when I am run down (and also maybe related to menstrual cycles if that is possible?) and the only cure is to get DH on duty so that I can have one night in the spare room with earplugs, Kalms tables, and asleep by 9 pm. It seems like one good night can reset things, and then I am able to be up with DS in the night and get back to sleep easily.

Re: food and grazing and begging, yes my DS too. I just feed him constantly. Especially when I am meeting friends and trying to chat uninterrupted - constant flow of cake going from my plate into DS's yap!

I had to giggle a little bit at the baby signing thing. It reminded me of a story my friend told me about when she was trying to wean her baby of night feeds, but the baby was in the cot madly signing MILK, MILK, MILK. Maybe I don't want to start baby signing classes because sometimes I don't think I want to know what he actually wants!

Oh, and interesting WG about your scar numbness. Me too. I did wonder about the ladies who are preggo and had CSs last time. I can't imagine my scar being stretched with a pregnant belly right now. It still seems so numb and tender and is really angry and red still. I can barely stand to touch it!

If you like mosaics Veggie then you should visit me - there are loads at the local museum as this was an important Roman town. I thini the one found at that house was an impressive affair with dolphins

Veggie that's interesting - what they do exactly? What do you mean by single? After they close Uterous with those disposable stitches, don't they close abdominal wall, then skin? I will be sure to interrogate my consultant!

I meant Uterus
dh reckons they stitch a fat layer too --- there's that word again

I have heard it makes a difference what method they close the outer most layer of skin though. ie if they use staples it can leave a ridge etc lol - I had a continuous subcutaneous nylon apparently.
Hmm ds only wants toast or crumpets off my plate. he doesn't really beg, but rather puts his face about an inch from the food!
I have a proper labrador who never gets fed off our plate but lives in hope that one day we will chuck her a bit of food!
Congrats on completion Effie and on the shoes!
Nice day, but bloody freezing

I have a overhang which is purely fat as I haven't had a CS. But my friend who had a CS says she has a shelf. I'm still not sure what she means.

Morning all.

I am having a grrrr morning. Was all set to be on time for work for once. Missed a bus by inches. So stood in freezing cold and not one, but two buses went by too full to let anyone else on!!! I was there for half an hour, shaking with cold. Finally got on one and no seat and I don't feel like I'm pregnant enough yet to ask for a seat, so just stood there. Then traffic was awful. Luckily was only about half an hour late, but missed a meeting - not that I really cared about that though!

AND I'm going to try to explain a bit of a long story, but it's made me so cross. I know it's nothing major, but it's indicative of controlling DH. He is off walking in South Wales with some mates this weekend, so I've invited one of DD's godmothers round for a DVD and take away fest on Saturday night. Can't wait.

Then the other godmother's husband rang me to see if DH and I could come down for lunch on Sunday for her birthday. I said that DH couldn't, but that I might be able to, just needed to check with my friend who was staying over, what time she wanted to leave. Told DH about it and he was really cross about it and said that we're going to stay with them anyway in April, so I don't really need to go without him. Plus it's a long way to go just for lunch - ahem - it's 1.5 hours in the car - v doable.
My friend is one of my oldest mates and organised my hen weekend and things, so am always keen for an opportunity to see her. DH is now in a huff because I've said I'm going and when my friend's husband emailed him to ask for my email address, my husband CC'ed me in, saying that he wasn't sure I could make it as he wanted to delay it, so he could come, to the weekend in April.

I mean, seriously. Just because he's away, he wants me to sit in and wait for him and it really irritates me.

Sorry, I know it's no big deal, but it's going to cause another bloody argument between us and silences from him and I just can't face it. It upsets me and enrages me because I'm not doing anything wrong. FURY!

oooh kayz - new word! Shelf! Hmm I wonder what that means! We might need to find out everyone's method of wound closure before we I can speculate further
Ohh Lady, maybe if you are reading en route to your scan, you could ask your consultant

proper catchup at lunchtime but just to say Effie, I know the road that that house is on and it's v pretty, at the bottom is the Marquis pub where we all used to go as it was the best place in town to get served when you were under age

not that that's a reason to move there of course! It is a vvv beautiful house

I'd be pissed off royaly Beans... I'd prob go - especially given that dh is away for the weekend! Can't hve his cake and eat it too!

Exactly - thanks Rubes! And it's good to have you back! x

They should do a double layer suture of the uterus, I think if it's done properly it can effect the outer look of the CS area even though it's internal. Also it's much safer for subsequent pregnancy much lower incidence of rupture and placenta problems due to internal scaring. They only recommend fat suturing if there is more than 2cm of fat so I doubt you got that though I guess a very good Obs might do it to improve the look of the external area.

I have to say I get a bit miffed about the UK taking on American terms esp medical terms but I'm so glad of the increasing use of CS or C section so much easier to spell than Cesarean (sp). It's like the word diarrhea(sp)

Oh Eff if only I could visit you. I always planned to try to hunt out some of the Roman mosaics in England esp some of the lessor known or harder to get to.

Oh and completely missed out my Beans rant. That is just horrendous beans!! Tell him to bugger off. Why can he have his own life but you can't. Tell you what that weekend how about you jump on a plane and come and see me.

Also, do you have multiply godmothers?

Oh thanks Veggie - yeah dh said that makes sense.
I have no idea what they did internal stitching wise but i'm going to be sure to get the info this time around! He wasn't paying much attention either at the time - probably was bored to death and daydreaming about cycling or something on the day as he was clearly blocking out my nagging about holding my hand up rather than letting my hand be supported by the cannular in it which was the only thing I remember being bothered by during the op

JJ - that vid of S on your FB is really cute!

Hi Veggie - do you know, I'd love to come and see you, but unfortunately it's this weekend! So a bit last minute!!! We have 2 godmothers and 1 godfather. If we have a boy, it'll be 2 godfathers and 1 godmother! All v traditional!

Beans: I'd be furious too, but maybe your DH is a bit upset at being left out? Unreasonable I know!

JJ: if we did move more towards the centre I'd be a bit worried about fri/sat nights! We are nicely insulated where we are now, but I understand it's pretty horrendous. Not that you would have been disturbing the peace I'm sure . We've signed another 12 months lease on the house we're in, so don't need to worry about it for a bit. Cue house prices rising dramatically!

Veggie: in the event of you ever being in East Anglia you;d be very welcome to visit . Though I suspect Summer and JJ woul dlike to lure you to Cambridge as well!

ooh Veggie - I could always do that too - fairly easily! (promise I won't even mention the CS subject!)
Speaking of which - what happened to our Eurostar plan??? Meet up in Paris??

Hello all,

Nice to see you back rubes. WG My DD wants food off my plate even if she has exactly the same thing on her plate. It is really annoying but I just give in and let her take it, it just isn't a battle I can be bothered with as long as she eats it. If she takes it and throws it on the floor, then I get annoyed!! Sorry you've had no sleep, hope you get a sneaky nap in today. I'm impressed with the food baby sign, much more useful than duck!

mum Re scars and pregnancy. My transplant scars held up very well although were madly itchy when the skin was stretching. My scars are like a mercedes emblem across the top of my tummy, across the top of the ribs and up a bit towards the boobs. So quite extensive and they are just fractionally wider than they were, so only a bit of stretching across the scar. I expect a CS scar would be simiar.

Sorry not to do more personals but must work....

Right - time for a bit more of a catch up. No opinions of the whole CS thing, it's all over my head!

THe constant grazing - I guess they were used to always having a fairly full tummy when they were on milk only, so maybe the snacking is a way to recreate that sensation - they're not used to being hungry? Or maybe it's just like us and when they're bored they fancy somethingto eat. I'm always in and out of the fridge

beans that does seem kind of barmy that you're not allowed to go and see your pal when DH is away. Frankly I'd just go anyway and to heck with his moaning.

A couple of questions from me. Those with DDs, have they (ahem) discovered that they're girls? Every nappy change or bathtime, dd's hands are straight down her front. I know it's perfectly natural but sometimes it's hard to do up her nappy with her hand in the way!

Secondly. Teaching them good behaviour etc. I'm fully in favour of the pick your battles school, but at the same time I do wonder about getting into bad habits. So I stop dd climbing up the tv, trying to throw herself over the fireguard etc, and try to be mellow about everything else. But if I let her (eg) keep banging her fork into the table at mealtimes, will it be hard to teach her not to later on? I try to make her hold my hand when we're out walking but she's already a bit wilful determined and pulls away - so I tell her hold my hand when we're out of the house or I'll carry you. But I kind of get the feeling she's too young to understand yet. There's lots of Good girl and Thankyou and so on and I'm trying to avoid always saying No...

So I guess what I'm asking is, are you trying to teach good habits now or pretty much going with the flow? I've no idea when they're really old enough to learn.

Hi JJ - DH must have realised his unreasonableness and is now being sweet about it - finally. I've been in a right stew about it all morning!

Re playing with their fannies - DD doesn't do that, but she has this blanket with a sheep's head on it, called Sheepie and she tends to put that down between her legs at nappy changes. I don't know why - I think he's v soft, so it probably feels nice!!! She also sometimes has a bit of a smelly foofoo - does anyone else find that??

Re the teaching good behaviour - I'm not really sure yet how to do it. DD can't walk, so the hand holding isn't an issue. I do say no to her when she's dropping food on the floor, but she just finds it hilarious. And I'm crap at following up with it. She hasn't really been bad as yet - I guess I'll soon be sorely tested!!!

x

PS Does anyone else's DC have a comforter? The aforementioned Sheepie is Whizzer's and she really can't go anywhere without him. It's very sweet, but also I'm wondering where we draw the line. She kisses him as often as she kisses me and seems to need him for everything - although I've forbidden him at bathtime and mealtimes, which seems to be ok. But she can't sleep without him!!

Hi guys just quickly as am on phone. Off to Barcelona in a bit thanks for all your tips!
Daisy I hope tomorrow goes as well as can be expected.